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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



wo. wicked with sabrina, thanks for that lovely one.

voice over on "very congratulations"? not once, twice. my what the points edited oiut. nahiii.

really, only in a hindi show, such rare delights. this is too cute. and for all you know there are people who actually say that.

liked that "sab darama" comment. for all you know that's exactly what the writers meant when they gave her the words. really the man wants all her attention and love, just that he thinks yelling and insulting will get the job done. not just shatir, subconscious super shatir... that's exactly what happens too.

like the morning after diwali... first she says she's not going to his house at all... then not only does she go, but she also enters the lion's den all by herself to return the key... wide eyed innocent and not yet expert in love games, but she does feel that pull.

the "khushi show," teehee i like your name for it... it's such a woman thing, isn't it? grin and bear all. poor man, just can't get his head around it. never could.

writers were super at psychology. yes, arnav has a destructive side to his coping mechanism.

one big difference with khushi's experience, though.

she was 8, not old enough to understand many things. and her parentsdied in a car accident. if there were deeper, blacker, more complicated aspects to this death, she wasn't aware of them. and nor were we ever told. so it was tragic, but not tainted with other complications.

arnav on the other hand, was a young man. 14. quite capable of understanding what father having an affair with another woman means. the death of his parents was traumatic enough, given their suicide (maybe even murder). but along with that, the filthy taint of another woman. a father who was loose of morals. a mother who killed herself because of that. there was bound to be repercussions of this knowledge on the young man. his sister, somehow, and frankly i have no idea how, seems to have sublimated all anger and shame about this. but not arnav. that dark, unwholesome streak to the death of his beloved mother... how could it not leave its negative impact on him and his way of dealing with life.

i wish we had gone more into all of this, and the show had gone on a couple more decades. 😆 and those lines in bold purple about this kambakht pyaar 👏 you really don't write well.😆

Had to stop by this interesting psychoanalytic conversation. So agree it was all in the CV's mind when they created A and K. They tried to throw some minor shades of attention seeking personality disorder associated with the traumatic past in both characters. She is his drama queen, he is her drama king. ASR being the more damaged.
Also I would like to speculate some Narcistic shades in A. Under the ultra confidant mask is a fragile self esteem. Guess he could not explain K the reason for their marriage for so long for the fear of loosing her to Shyam. One of the reasons we love ASR is his fine ability to suck up the character and present it with the due complexity. There are instances when the movement of his irises clearly display some degree of underlying psychotic reaction. How easily he huts K, by denying all he means in reality.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: wiwy

Durgey! please don't give up when you are so close to the answer!😃 Yes, you are on the right track now!👏 Thanks for the PM. Yes, I have been busy lately, trying to finish my pending work, as I am planning to go to Jaipur (that is where my parents live) on 13th morning to be in time for my father's first check-up after his angioplasty. I will return to Kolkata on 3rd June.

@ All Blasters

Please PM the links of your posts on the riddle like Durga and Horizon, if you can, as I am not finding the time to run through the entire thread😭 In fact I might not be able to read much or contribute to the thread very frequently this month. I know you will understand my parents need me more than Barun does😆 BD, did you say something?!😛



oh ji tumne suna?? all i said was don't worry about Barun one bit, i'll take good care of him 😊 he is in great hands 😃 in all seriousness, hope your dad is doing well and things go back to normal soon. lots of ❤️
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



okay, i have found a way to jump into screens.

teehee. kidding.

stunning 112/113, sir. especially the deductions and the edits. this time for the first time realised what power lay in these scenes. anyone who's ever been in love will identify with much here. your take was beautiful. jumped in and commented in blue. edits fab. that trait of khushi's. block out, seek joy... double edged isn't it? i like the trait, but would be great if she began to see that she blocks out elemental pain with it and that needs to be released. i so want to see her cry her guts out for her parents, holding her arnav ji and asking that question human's have asked forever and never got an answer... why? why? and why me?




Don't tease me like that Indi!! if only we could jump screens
Thank you for wonderful comments and the pinks again and lilking the edits too. about Khushi, now that you mention it a scene like that would be splendid, just letting it all out and the "why mes' also.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: supriya.arshi


Thanks again deary!! as always enjoyed your comments 😊 So you want to kill buaji? Actually i keep reminding myself she is a victim but was angry about the rushing the engagement part without giving KHushi a chance to breathe...then again the cv used her gullibble nature to move the story along so cant totallyh hat her...i just can't wait till the reveal, she's ready to kick Shyaam's ass!😆

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Posted: 12 years ago

@ episode 116 CAN WE FORGET

Arnav watches shattered devastated as Khushi goes and she is also sad and devastated ASR wants to keep his facade on and he does for sometime till he sees a key on his table he wants to throw it but it takes him back to the dargah and Khushi giving him Mannat ki chabi(key) and the key shows him Khushi's blood he is unable to stay even for a minute he gets ready and goes to the temple to put medicine and bandage and its on her ring fingure DM has saved them they are made for each other but still bullheaded dont want to recognise it so the wound and bandage will prevent Shyam from putting the ring on her finger and till its broken a false engagement takes place with Shyam Arnav has indirectly protected his Khushi
jinhe hum bhulaana chaahe, wo aksar yaad aate hain
bura ho iss muhabbat ka, wo kyon kar yaad aate hain

bhulaaye kis tarah un ko, kabhi pi thi un aankhon se
chhalak jaate hain jab aansu, wo saagar yaad aate hain

kisi ke sunrkha lab the ya diye ki lau machalati thi
jaha ki thi kabhi puja, wo mandar yaad aate hain

rahe aye shamma tu roshan, duwa deta hain parawaana
jinhe kismat mein jalna hain, wo jalakar yaad aate hain
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: DurgaS

Disclaimer: Please do not copy my work anywhere. If you do, please give credit.

Episode 114
This poem is inspired from the last line of Indi's review of 111
this was a night like no other night.
and these lines from Cynthia's review of 111-113

Both Arnav and Kushi are fixed to be

ENGAGED...

But not to each other.

Thank you both, Indi and Cynthia, for the inspirations. 😊
THE NIGHT
This was a night like no other
Turmoil of emotions witnessed by none other
From a night of passion, it turned into one of distraught
Happiness for all, but for the two, only misery it brought
Moments of attraction created a repelling effect
Enormities of desires lead to a decision inept
This was a couple in love, meant to be together
But a night like this they had dreamt of never
One was the receiver; the other, the giver of pain
One was confused; the other had control to gain
One denied to confess; as the other denied to earlier
Both wearing masks to hide from each other
As they stood under the moonlit sky
Forgetting each other, such a worthless try
Both in pain, pining for each other
Both agreed to be engaged, but alas, with some other


👏👏👏 FIrst one in English Drugey?? its wonderful!! i've highlighted what sticks out but gain the whole thing is mmmuuuwaa worthy!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: DurgaS

Disclaimer: Please do not copy my work anywhere. If you do, please give credit.

Episode 114
This poem is inspired from the last line of Indi's review of 111
this was a night like no other night.
and these lines from Cynthia's review of 111-113

Both Arnav and Kushi are fixed to be

ENGAGED...

But not to each other.

Thank you both, Indi and Cynthia, for the inspirations. 😊
THE NIGHT
This was a night like no other
Turmoil of emotions witnessed by none other
From a night of passion, it turned into one of distraught
Happiness for all, but for the two, only misery it brought
Moments of attraction created a repelling effect
Enormities of desires lead to a decision inept
This was a couple in love, meant to be together
But a night like this they had dreamt of never
One was the receiver; the other, the giver of pain
One was confused; the other had control to gain
One denied to confess; as the other denied to earlier
Both wearing masks to hide from each other
As they stood under the moonlit sky
Forgetting each other, such a worthless try
Both in pain, pining for each other
Both agreed to be engaged, but alas, with some other

Durga,
You are surpassing yourself each time. Now I am not sure which is my fav among your amazing amalgam of Diwali poetry! Truly a master piece reflecting the pain and pining (👏)! Reminded me of this Ghazal..
Thanks for this poetic treat! Brilliant indeed..👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
Ever since these Diwali epis started, a dialogue from some movie, which I had no clue even which era it belonged to 1950 -2000s, kept popping in my head, which read some thing like "is baar tho amavass bahut lambi thi"!! I tried to recall and recall, but in vain.. but all the heart break Khushi bore and even the pain the inflictor went through kept reminding me ONLY that dialogue... Diwali is a new moon.. amavaas.. total dark ness.. unless some one tries to deliberately bring in some light with diyas! Then I kind of recalled that dialogue could be from "Aandhi".. Suchitra sen's... that Sanjeev Kumar reiterates.. Thanks much Samin , your post gave me that hint and all the ensued discussion on Aandhi! (Pl correct if I am wrong)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani

Friendly Disclaimer: My words, thoughts and ideas are mine only, please do not copy. You are welcome to use it, but credit accordingly. Thank you!

Episode 112-113: Heartbreak

Has a piece of mittai (sweet) ever tasted so bitter?

So true BD, never was the darkness (amavaas) of felt this grave either.

The girl with the mega-sweet tooth swallows it like a bitter pill that it really is... She simply couldn't say no to Nani who was feeding her in celebration of Arnav's engagement announcement. The very announcement that in an instant made a billion pieces of her heart.

With his presence, he gave her dhak dhaks, he came when she needed his strong shoulder to lean on, she associated the word "pyaar"(Love) with him when she saw him everywhere, she felt the sitare(stars) from the sky with him nearby. He made her dream. And for the first time today he gave her a high like nothing she ever experienced before, and after that phone call came her first heartbreak, excruciating pain also something she's never experienced. She cried and cried as he watched through the big glass window.

All she wanted to do was get out of there, in the background wishes still pouring in for the engagement announcement. unable to contain her tears she tries to run out of there, only to be stopped by La. "What happened to you, you're crying?" Khushi forces a smile and assures her they're tears of happiness. I feel La senses something, she asks twice if Khushi is happy for her. "I'm really happy" khushi assured before La hugs her. Arnav witnesses the embrace, he swallows hard knowing what heartbreak is hidden behind that smile. Poor girl doesn't even get to leave, she has to paste a smile on and hold back the tears

Always good at hiding her pain and problems from her family, who gave her so much after her parents died, but for Khushi forcing a smile has never been harder than today. After Nani feeds her the sweet, she goes into her special mode that makes Arnav question "kis mitti ki bani hai yeh?" later on. She stretches that smile on her face, her voice to a forced high.

"badhaai ho! aapko apne naati ke liey bahu mil gayee...laaye OPji, aaj hum sab ka moo meetha karenge"

"Congratulations Naniji, you found a wife for your grandson...OPji, give it here, today i will sweeten everyone's mouth"

Maybe this is how she's dealt with pain since she was 8, self preservation mechanism perhaps...block it all out and pretend all is fine, eventually the mind will follow. Today the pain is unbearable. When she acts similarly after he reveals the reason for the forced marriage, again she is also incredibly hurt that he could think so low of her. This is how Khushi lives up to her name. Arnav, puzzled with her OTT behavior

Exactly, That's what she was trying, and her OTT was never as much required as here. How brilliantly Sanaya portrayed that, trying to hide pain under a plastic smile!!
The but sure of one thing, she is hiding enormous amount of hurt underneath. She endures more of it when Anjali brings out the special halwa and tells Arnav that she made it, a harsh reminder of the love and care she put into it. She takes off in a haste insisting she would be ok going alone on this Diwali night, much to Arnav's concern.

While talks of the marriage and meeting La's family are initiated by Naniji, allArnav can think about is Khushi's safety. Even when shyaam comes to wish him, nothing registers till La repeates "mrs. and mr. raizada, wow i can't believe it" ... is it just sinking in what you've done ASR?

True ami, In that haste of the moment, urge to denial, he didn't realize what he was doing!
Mamiji talks about fast mangni and super fast wedding suffocates him and he explodes... "Enough of this non-sense everyone! i agreed to get married, I didn't say i'll get married tonight, so you ppl pleast stop setting the date for it and booking the honeymoon tickets" ...a bit much even for Chotey. Since Khushi started working there, the family had noticed a change in chotey, like forgiving and sparing JP when he spilled tea on him...he had just learned what forgiveness means. Now, heightened anger will be the biggest side effect... that's the only way he knows how to express his pain.
Hugs.. yes,
He leaves, he has to make sure she's safe. koi ahemiyat nahi hai?...she has not importance huh?Khushi on the middle of the road, almost disoriented painfully lives through those moments then his abrupt announcement, while her question play in his mind like a broken record. His signature screeching breaks startles her and bring her out of her thoughts, she's surprised to see him. She goes back into her special mode, with the smile back on, "Arrey what you doing here, you should be at h-"...he interrupts

"Sit in the car" he is certainly aint buying her act "mein ghar chhod doonga( i'll drop you home)" such a sense of care and resposnibility in his voice. He is her protector no matter what. She tells him that she'll go on her own, he tells her to "shut up and sit in the car." she obeys. after all that's happend,she obeys, is it because a part of herself understands him being here after all that's happened?

She knows he is guilty (or not?)and he knows she is pained!

The quiet tension in the car can be cut with a knife. Again going into her mode, leaving him even more perplexed when she wishes him and La. "i'm so happy to know that you and Lavanyaji are getting engaged...its a holiday and top of that such big news!" He still doesn't get her act but he sees right through it.

"toh tum khush ho? So you're happy?" in typical ASR tone

"arrey, i'm really happy, hum to yeh hi chahte the ki- (thisis what i want that-)"

"oh really? tum yeh hi chahti thi? (this is what you wanted?)"

I feel like he wants her to admit her true feeling even after he's crushed then to pieces. Why ASR why, you hurt her so she would hate you then why do you want her to still admit otherwise??

"yes ofcourse, why are you asking like this ? you and La are getting engaged, what can be better than that? and it good that you'lre dropping me home, you must meet babuji and amma, they'll be so happy about this news too" her voice reaching that unnatural high again(Sanaya is brilliant here). he lets her finish her nonsense (seems that what he think of her act)

"thodi der pehle tum mujhse kucch pucch rahi thi (you were asking me something a bit ago)" ...so now he's ready to answer the question.

she denies it "hum kya pucch rahe the (What was i asking)?".

"apni payl ke baare mein" about your payal?

she laughs it off, "acchha woh? no that was nothing important, the important thing is whatever i came to do is done"

He interrupts her nonsense "toh tum apni payal ke baare mein nahi jaan na chahti (So you don't want to know about your payal?)?

She ignores his question and continues to talk about the wedding..."you two make a great couple."

For a long time, I heard that dialogue as "hum (NOT aap) donon ki Jodi kitni acchi lagthi hai!!" until I watched with subtitles!!
irritating him further. He slams the breaks "get out."... She looks at him "dekh kya rahi ho? i said get out!"

She realizes her home is here. That darn seatbelt again, he opens it for her and flings it, but when she tries to get out her saari pallu is stuck, on her facea as she tries to pry it open, she breaks down, the agony of detaching herself from a part of him. In the process, she drops her wallet. the seatbelt, the pallu, the wallet all working to keep them together.

The wallet becomes her heart tonight. She leaves it with him, then he comes back to return it, fitting for tonight, later she will clutch it tightly to when the hurt becomes too much.

Even in this dark night, a glimpse of their love for each other, their one-ness shines through as Arnav is invited into the GH by Buaji and meets Khushi's parents for the first time...Khushi jumps to answer "Nahee amma, inhe meetha mana hai"(no amma, he's not allowed sweets) when Garima offers him sweets. they share a brief moments, quietly so much is said.

Arnav can't stop being the husband type either. first he couldn't let her walk home alone and now he shows concern for her father like a jamaai (son-in-law) would. Khushi is also moved by this gesure. He takes off, Garima asks Khushi to go see him off.

"shukriya! (Thank you!)" i get the feeling she wants to thank him for the way he was with her babuji.

He stops, the music gets intense, and the anger on his face mounts

"for returningmy wallet" she finishes

He takes this oppurtunity to do what he was trying to do earlier. but her lack of cooperation left him irritated.

"apni cheeze yaha, waha chhod ne aadat hai tumhari, jaise apni payal mere pool pe chodi thi...tumhari payal mere paas thi uska koi ghalad matlab nahin nikaalna, yeh mat soch na ki ek amir aadmi tumhari payal ko apen seene se laga kar baitha tha...mujhe iss sab se koi farq nahi padta, shaya tumhe padta hoga" shaking his head, "doesn't mean a thing

"leaving you stuff here and there is a habbit of yours, just like you left you payal on my pool, don't make anything of the fact that your payal was with me, don't think that a rich guy was holding it to his heart, all of this doesn't make any differenc to me, maybe it does to you, doesnt' mean a thing"

Thats why he was pushing her to ask again about the payal, so he could tell her and emphasis how much she doesn't make a difference. clever as always, but he still didn't answer one question Khushi asked earlier. "Why didn't you return the payal earler, aaj kyu? why today?" Khushi is still trying to swollow his bitter words to ask him. even if she thought to ask him, does it really matter? he just told her "deosn't mean a thing"

"Koi matlab nahi hai? It didn't mean anything?" she asks as flashes of him putting the payal on and almost kissing her apear in her eyes.

"shayad tumhare liye hoga, tumhe to laga hoga ki tumhari zindagi ban gayee" (maybe it had meaning for you, you proobably thought that you life is set), He knows she has deep feelings for him and uses them against her, also once again playing the gold digger card just to hurt her and push her away even more.

his takes a step of intemidation, in his eyes, pure determination, he hits the nail in the coffin

"mere liye uss baat ki ya tumhari koi ahemiyat nahi"

"For me, that moment, or you hold no importance"

"uss baat", that beautiful moment where he held her like she was his world, where she was willing to let him change her world holds no importance? She holds no importance? this words were worse than daggers, she looks up to him displaying every ounce of hurt in her eyes that her heart just couldn't bear anymore. He saw it, he felt it but ASR was in command, he wouldn't dare show it. He leaves.

she sits there crying clutching her wallet, her heart when Payal comes. Khushi wipes away her tears. Normally she would even force a smile but that just can't be done right this minute. Payal asks where she found the anklet, to which a broken girl gives and honest answer. "uss baat ka koi matlab nahin tha jiji ( that didn't mean anything jiji)"

She runs to her room, locking the door completely breaking down, letting out the excrutiating hurt while the words to "tu hi bata mere maula" fill the somber mood. In parelle scenes Arnav sees only the tears he has given her all night, it all becomes too much, he steps on the breaks, drops the ASR mask and closes his eyes, utter agony on his face too.

Things playout in Shyaams favor tonight. he plays a low dirty game and puts Khushi's honor as risk to gets his way. Then he uses her babuji and her love for him to manipulate some more. Buaji falls for it and unknowingly lends her hand to evil. Does he not resemble the devil with his pointy ears?

Did you draw this???

Like a pressure cooker, she builds and builds the pressure on Khushi, there was not stopping Buaji after what happened. Garima and Payal tried to tame her, but she used Sashi's health, his happiness to lay a guilt trip. With Arnav's sharp words still fresh in her head, "mujhe iss sab se koi farq nahi padta, doesn't mean a thing" she finally gives in.

"Teek hai! hum...taiyaar hai"

"Fine, i'm...ready"

Everyone went still, even Buaji couldn't believe it, and her poor Babuji, not able to speak a word, but his devastation was in his eyes...if only she could see.


Shyaam give a victorious annoying smile...because putting a girl's honor at risk and hurting the man she loves the most to manipulate a forced "yes" out her in marriage...its gotta be "love" right? right?...despicable!

Buaji confirms, "syaam babua se shaadi karne ke liye tum taiyaar ho (you're ready to marry Shyaam babua)?"

A light nod from Khushi...She certainly said yes because she cares about her father, but also because tonight her belief, faith in love was shattered. The belief that kept her from saying yes to Shyaam before, that made her instantly turn the proposal down again, the faith that made her disobey her family for the first time in her life...to her at this moment that faith, that belief ka "koi matlab nahi tha"...didn't mean a thing.

If it was the initial Khushi, the one who worked in the AR Designs, she would have given ASR a piece of his own mind in the middle of the road that night. But this is a different Khushi, a girl head over heels in love with this rakhsas... one side of me couldn't accept she acting that extra chirpy with the one who just squashed her heart without a trace...the one who rather shut the door of her house on his face (although while in the car she said she is happy that he gets to meet her parents!) suited more! if she hid her pain under smile, he does it under anger! Two different defense mechanisms to combat the same emotion! These two are amazingly similarly different! while I understand, Khushi needed to clear her confusion, and he was devilish in hurting her beyond measure, I am still not sure if there would have been a status quo change if he confessed!! Loved the write up Ami. My comments in blue.

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