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enigmatic_zephy

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Posted: 12 years ago

Different POVs are always fun to read...they bring forward new ideas, open up new topics for discussion..give us more food for thought..

The idea of this topic is to archive some of the best analysis and arguments that any of us has ever come across on this forum..

Could be a topic, could be a post,any viewpoint..

Earnest request, kindly give every POV its due respect and agree/disagree/argue in the realm of 'respect your POV but' 😉.. you get the point..😆

Kindly post the analysis in comment box, theme of the analysis and the analyst...preferably with the link

Thanks folks who contribute.. to others.. my sales pitch.. "Trust me it would be fun to have this archive"...😃

Please remember, some posts would be from earlier time

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I will maintain the Index here.. and listing down some of my fav topics below:

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1. Rishbala Analysis

Cardio21: Connecting the events https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/82200838
Escape.my.love: Psychology at work https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/82200838

2. Madhu's Revenge

Sushi 90: New angle to the story https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/82200838

3. Comedy Flavour

Oh_no_soaps: Radhaji https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3568288/best-analysis

4. RK POVs

Enigmatic_Zephy: He thought it was his masterblow https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3495408/he-thought-it-was-his-masterblow

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enigmatic_zephy

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Posted: 12 years ago

TOPIC: What if RK ditched you?

Analysis by: Cardio21

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I am a RK Madhu fan.. And I want to see them together, despite of all this..

Please don't be offended.. I will ask you a question instead..

I am sure u r doing really well in life, or if you are very young, I hope that u become super successful in ur future😊

God forbid, u get involved in an hit n run case.. The victim and his family are ready to settle.. But this random witness starts a crusade against u.. Puts u in jail. If RK was a govt servant, he would have lost his job.. I am not supporting RK's behavior but out of court settlements happen and are legal..

Then because u have a large clout u decide to get back to her.. And then the witness sends u bangles, which mite not offend a female but its not taken well by males.. U retaliate.. And then that witness comes to ur office where u are the ace person, and entire office looks upto you.. She slaps u right across ur face 4 times, (even though the 4 slaps were justified at that point but who started this mess?)

What will u do? Think as a superstar/a super achiever!.. U ll know what I m talking about..

And regarding what RK did to Madhu was hideous.. In real life, i wouldn't get in a situation like that because for me, my career, family n their safety is more important than my social adventures.. In my misplaced self-righteousness, I wouldn't start a tirade against anyone. I will support the victim, if he asks for it.. But not make it my personal vendetta.. So why would somebody do something this hideous with me..??

And to answer ur question.,

By God's grace, I would never put myself at a spot where people can walk over me like that.. My family takes the credit for that. 😊

I love like crazy, but never show my vulnerability, making someone my God or Judge.. Relax! It's a relationship.. Needs to be respected and cherished. Why go overboard?

Usually, I have a very low threshold for chucking out people, if I don't get the respect I deserve..

But after this humiliation!. i will kick a man's butt. Revenge is an excellent idea..

Or may be As I don't take NO for an answer!! would make the man grovel and pine every second of his life and come right back to me, may be i will wrap him around my little finger.. Rule over him, and his house.. (Depends on how sadistic I want to be)

And as I mentioned my priorities are diff from Madhu.. I won't go around helping a gangster who killed people just because he is golden hearted and has a son.. I couldn't care less., will sponsor the child's education once the goon is behind the bars.. (Sorry had to mention this)

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enigmatic_zephy

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Posted: 12 years ago

TOPIC: RISHBALA

Analysis by: Escape.my.love

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You see there is always an advantage of being a sociology student . I heard even DD majored in sociology in her uni days naa? Well guess what? Characters can also be used as studies for not only psychology but sociology as well now . Thanks to RK the great.😡

So RK mahashey 😡 . Hum sab jaantey hai ke aap ek lost , disbalanced 11 saal ke bacchey hai jo kabhi bara nahi hua hai . Lekin yeh kaisa naya tareeka hai apne frustrations ko nikaalna? Revenge aur apna life destroy karke chain nahi mila ke phir se Madhu ko sazza dene pe tuley hai aap? 🤪 Thanks to Gari , jisney SBS session post kiya , we saw a peek into a future Rishbaala scene where RK says that her not answering him in where she is going and with whom is going to cost her a price soon.😡 Yeh ladka khud ki baand bajata hai. Aur phir jab baand bajta hai , toh doosrey pe anger displacement deta hai .😡 Now coming to Piaget theory . Madhu , tuney ek bacchey se kaise pyaar kar liya mujhe nahi pata . Lekin Madhu's crack can also be explained by Piaget theory , though in Madhu's case Freudian theory would be ideal.

RK the insolent cracked child's socio study case - Jean Piaget's theory .

credits given to my Socio book by Anthony Giddens.😃 moving on.Sorry for this bhasshan.

Piaget's theory on childhood divides the periods of childhood into 4 main stages:

1. Sensorimotor stage - [from birth till 2 years] Here in this stage children learn by touching objects around them and physically exploring their environment. However in this age they cannot differentiate the objects from one to another. However they realize by 2 , that their environment has different and stable properties.

2.Pre operational stage- [2-7 years] In this stage , children learn words to represent objects and images in a symbolic fashion.A 4 year old can use a sweeping hand movement to represent an aeroplane , for eample. Children are ego centric in this age . Actually they develop egocentrism according to Piaget in this age. As the child is only able to interpret the world in the terms of his own little understanding. Like , a child holding a book in front of you will ask you to see the pictures despite the back of the book being turned to you.

3. Concrete operational stage- [7-11 years] Children master abstract and logical notions. They can by now recognize false reasoning .However they fail to perceive perception . For example , they won't be able to understand that a wide container will hold more water despite the level of water being lower than in a narrow thin container.

And NOW FINALLY THE CATCH. The final stage- Formal operational stage [12-15 years] helps us understand things like the water example given above..BUT. Yes there is a big BUT over here.Many people around us FAIL to achieve the last stage of normal childhood around us due to the dysfunctional conditions of our family. Therefore this stage helps to make children develop seeing all types of possibilities for a problem but people who fail at experiencing this stage due to a broken back ground and broken surrounding , cannot differentiate all the possibilities and REMAIN EGOCENTRIC. DOES IT FINALLY CLICK NOW? RK NEVER WENT THROUGH THE FORMAL OPERATIONAL STAGE. I'M QUOTING, " ADULTS OF BAD BACKGROUND OR LIMITED EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT TEND TO THINK IN MORE CONRETE TERMS THAN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A SECOND PERSON'S FEELINGS AND THEREFORE STILL RETAIN LARGE TRACES OF EGOCENTRISM." Therefore , RK and many people like RK have never been through the proper last stage of childhood and therefore their flecks of past childhood transitions remain the way they are as they grow into adults. For the reason , we still see a very complicated screwed up child inside RK cause that is what he is . His childhood process has been screwed up and handicapped and therefore what you get is a screwed up kid inside a physically grown up looking adult . KAAPISH?

Madhu's crack - Freudian theory.

Okay . So all of us wonder why Madhu's ego tug of war , hatred , "i will break your ego and show justice" , loathe , care , pull , attraction and indelible love is for this crack pot of a child? I'll tell you why . Madhu knows her dad was a domestically sick and screwed up man . Madhu slowly saw a potential redemption in RK's character that resembled the descriptions of her father never giving the love her mom deserved . Madhu however knew that unlike her father RK is no psychotic killer and physical murdering abuser with ice cold blood in his veins and so she saw the possibility of redeeming him and making him a better person , and in this way she grew attached . How and why did she do this? Because the psychology here is , to redeem her fathers actions in her mind and to forgive and moreover RELEASE him and his actions in her eyes , she wants to redeem guys like him who can still become better people and be proper husbands which her mom, Padmini never got . By making RK a better person , she would be able to RELEASE HER BITTER EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS ABOUT HER FATHER. This is a symptom of girls who have not gone through a proper process of the Electra complex , ie having sexual sub conscious feelings for your father that is repressed and displayed through a daughterly love. Since Madhu never had a real father , the memories and words about her father had to be released through nurturing a guy who is bitter like her dad but has a chance of redemtion and so that is why Madhu tried her best through the Ganpati track , Radha-RK track and etcetera . Sorry for boring you guys. buhbyeee 😃.

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Sushi90

@Sushi90

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Posted: 12 years ago

Topic : New angle to the story

Analysis by: Sushmitha

I know a lot is already said about RK, Madhu and Sultan. I will not go deep into this. We know RK took revenge on Mdhu for the 4 slaps she gave him in front of the whole unit...Madhu is now in revenge mode or wants to reach RK a lesson...whatever...I feel both are same till I see she does teach RK a lesson without hurting anybody which includes RK.

Now for the story line to get gripping as we know that the CVs keep saying the show is Entertainment...I feel it's different from what is shown to us so far.

My reasons:

Shamsher Malik is the trump card which will be used by the CVs sometime soon. I feel a strong coincidence between his sudden disappearance and RK unwed Madhu. I feel the whole revenge drama is connected to Shamsher Malik, may be he is kidnapped (????) . There is no news at all about him, so it's puzzling me. Atleast the CVs would have shown Padmini or Madhu or Trishna speaking to him on phone or something to show they are in touch with him. But nothing as such is shown, so my curiosity has increased and feel Sultan might turn negative.

Let's wait and watch...where the story is headed towards...

Till then enjoy...be it a Rishbala or Sulbala fan.

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cardio21

@cardio21

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Sushi90
I know a lot is already said about RK, Madhu and Sultan. I will not go deep into this. We know RK took revenge on Mdhu for the 4 slaps she gave him in front of the whole unit...Madhu is now in revenge mode or wants to reach RK a lesson...whatever...I feel both are same till I see she does teach RK a lesson without hurting anybody which includes RK.

Now for the story line to get gripping as we know that the CVs keep saying the show is Entertainment...I feel it's different from what is shown to us so far.

My reasons:
Shamsher Malik is the trump card which will be used by the CVs sometime soon. I feel a strong coincidence between his sudden disappearance and RK unwed Madhu. I feel the whole revenge drama is connected to Shamsher Malik, may be he is kidnapped (????) . There is no news at all about him, so it's puzzling me. Atleast the CVs would have shown Padmini or Madhu or Trishna speaking to him on phone or something to show they are in touch with him. But nothing as such is shown, so my curiosity has increased and feel Sultan might turn negative.

Let's wait and watch...where the story is headed towards...

Till then enjoy...be it a Rishbala or Sulbala fan.

I think the reason he is not shown, is so that Madhu can give those helpless looks to Bhai.. If malik was here, then RK kidnapping Madhu wouldn't have involved bhai in any way.. And also the CVs has to create another track where malik is trying to kill RK again.. That's what I think..

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Sushi90

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: cardio21

I think the reason he is not shown, is so that Madhu can give those helpless looks to Bhai.. If malik was here, then RK kidnapping Madhu wouldn't have involved bhai in any way.. And also the CVs has to create another track where malik is trying to kill RK again.. That's what I think..

Initially I felt the same, but now Malik's absence from the show for such a long time raises eyebrows...I still believe there is something beyond what we are seeing so far. RK loves Madhu truly and all that he did for her was genuine, not drama or fake. I am sure tRK is not the kind to attack on he person who gives blood and saves life. I feel he is not what he is showing, I am sure there is another side of the coin.

Only time will tell...

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enigmatic_zephy

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Posted: 12 years ago

TOPIC: Koi Hai? I am lost in Radhaji's Post

Analysis by: Oh_no_soaps

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...its fairly small and empty here... can't find anything... 😕 except for this echo...its driving me bonkers!!

AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

Oh!!! Oh! Wait! Wait...I think I can hear something else...

"Mummyji I was thinking how LOVELY that madhu is back. We should...blah blah blah...

Sorry for the blahs, finding it hard to hear any more...😕

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

Ok ok wait..let me try harder. More than one way to skin a cat. (Fig of speech. I love cats, besides which, try skinning one and see what it does to you...ok sorry sorry for the digression...too much coffee today)...lemme check out what she can see ...

Its Madhu!!! OMG she looks AWFUL!!...white as a sheet, eyes larger than a buffaloes. She looks sh**t scared and sooo worried!

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

Yes! Yes! I know. Just hang on for a sec and look at this girl!

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

Radhaji please look!

...AAKHIR MAI MAA ... OHHH!!! MERI BAHU!! MERI BAHU!! MAI ITNI KHUSH HOON! MERI BAHU MERI BAHU IS BACK. BAPPA HAS MADE EVERYTHING OK.

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

Lady! 😲 LOOK at this girl! Look at her face! Her stress and anxiety levels are through the roof!! Damn it if she was 20 years older, she would have had a heart attack by now.

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

me ->😕 and 🤪. ok ok..stop it. control yourself...how to drown this out...
...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

FYI: I have stuffed my fingers in my ears and I start chanting...lallalaa lalalala lalala lalalalallaa to drown her out..😉

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

lalalala lalalalala lalalallala lalallalaa lalalala lalalalla lalallalaa lalalal
Oh God help me! Im behaving like a 5 year old!

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

lalalalala lalalala lalalalala lalala

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

Bappaaa!!!! Help me!!! lalalala lalallalala lalalala

Eh? where is she going now?

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

Sh*t!!! Lalalalala lalallalalala...sorry Bappa. sorry Mods...lallalala lallalaa I musn't swear...lalalalla lalalalala

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

I want to go lalalallala lalalala home!!! 😭 lalalala lalalala lalalalala 😭

Why is she giving madhu that heap of clothes and jewellery? 😕

...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON...

BETA EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS HAPPENED FOR THE BEST. TART YOUR SELF UP NOW LIKE THE GOOD BAHU YOU ARE. EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING AS IT SHOULD BE. EVEN DIPALI SUDHAR GAYI KYUN KAI AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON ...BESIDES THAT, I HAVE A SURPRISE FOR YOU!!!!

mummmyyy!!! i want my mummy 😭 looking at madhu's face i want my mom...radhaji LOOK AT MADHU'S FACE!!! 😭 does she look like she wants a bindi the size of a bullethole on her forehead?

...AAKHIR MAI MAA...lalalalla!!! lallalalallaa!!! HOON...lalallalalala llalalala!!!!!!

Bapppaaa lalalallaa Bappaaa lalalallala 😭 get me out of here pleeese oh pls pls lalallalalala please!

SURPRISE!!!! AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON SO EVERYTHING IS OK SO LONG AS MY SON GETS WHAT HE WANTS.

AAKHIR MAI MAA HOON, MAAFI MAANGLUNGI HISAAB BARABAR

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blacklambo

@blacklambo

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: cardio21

I think the reason he is not shown, is so that Madhu can give those helpless looks to Bhai.. If malik was here, then RK kidnapping Madhu wouldn't have involved bhai in any way.. And also the CVs has to create another track where malik is trying to kill RK again.. That's what I think..

@Sushi90, I believe RK's un-wedding plan was carried out as soon as he found out that Malik was going on an outdoor shoot (read out of the picture). While returning back from the village, post the family picnic debacle, RK was discussing arranging another picnic for the family. Madhu informed him in the car that Malik and Roma were going on an outdoor shoot so the family picnic was not a possibility. Next thing we get to see is the un-wedding drama!

@cardio, If Malik were in town, Madhu's entry back at the RK Mansion, Don's presence etc. would not happen. Maybe they are trying to create another track here but efforts are well spent making something good rather than salvaging something that has been willfully wrecked.

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