what Ira said... uh huh huh

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Posted: 12 years ago
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"Anandi ko nahi pata ki aisi situations mein Shiv ko kya karna padta hai, kya responsibility hoti hai", Ira said something like that.
She's right. Toral wasn't present when Anandi went thru the swine flu phase or any other crisis situation. So she doesn't know that Shiv will be damn busy and he doesn't have time to sleep. But Anandi was there na! She herself has given responsibility lectures many times! During swine flu epidemic, she and Shiv used to sleep at the hospital!

Now what level of character assassination it is to show that she's all gullible housewife now?
Now I know that what T-supporters will say: she's in love with her husband, she's not thinking of social work but only of him, she's enjoying honeymoon phase. Tho her acting is as abysmal as ever, this post is actually against the CVs.. If u feel that the tough girl act isn't working with TR (as trp has shown), train that girl or replace her but don't change the character!! We have too many housewives on tv, Anandi had more dimensions.. She can't be shown to be this way.. It just doesn't make a modicum of sense!

like why doesn't she sign up for some social service or something? Wouldn't that be more in line with her character? Anandi Singh, the great social worker who was felicitated for her relentless work for society is now placing roses at her husband's side instead of actually DOING something. Now you'll say- her priorities are different. But this is the same character who did 'seva' of her ex e1 tho her choti ma was unhappy n it was unfair to S. She was that into samaj seva.

Or were her good deeds only for her village? Or does a replacement mean that the character has to be changed instead of moulding the actress into the role? Just something to think about.

P.S. JG2 rock or what? I'm certain that this slight increase in trps is all because of them. Sincere advice, CVs, put them on the banner and get their story to the fore and lost fans will be back. Maybe. Not really. But at least some might.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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am glad someone noticed it...ever since new anandi came...everyone has been treating her as if she is actually "replaced anandi"...all are trying to mould themselves in the process thay seems to have changed the character of anandi as well...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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The qualities of Anandi has been injected into Ganga now a days. I am loving Jagya and Ganga.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This is the first thing I thought when I read about this track. In the past, Anandi and Shiv were equals in tackling things related to social work, such as the swine flu crisis, the neher project etc. Granted, then Anandi was on 'home turf' and was working side by side with Shiv in her sarpanch capacity. But she was doing stuff like running her school and stopping child marriages way before she became sarpanch. It just doesn't seem in Anandi's nature to me to not focus on social causes. Yeah, she's in love and in the honeymoon phase, but that's no reason for her to completely lose her essence.


I definitely agree with those who say that her character has undergone a revamp. It really doesn't help smoothen the transition that Anandi's current behaviour (independent of Toral's acting) seems to be inconsistent with her past behaviour. I am surprised that she didn't feel the loss of having something socially impactful to do after moving from Jaitsar to Udaipur. Generally, when someone's passionate about something, they feel restless if they are not directing at least some of their energy towards that purpose. Anandi, on the other hand, seems content with performing her housewively duties... and while there's nothing whatsoever wrong with being a housewife and I mean absolutely no slight towards any housewives on this forum, there was always an indication that Anandi would make something of herself beyond just being Shiv's wife, and that the partnership would be more equal, with both of them working together and using their individual unique talents to benefit the wider community. And at the moment, that's really not looking like it's going to happen...


Another thing I feel is that before the move to Udaipur, she and Shiv should have sat down and had a chat about what HER plans were for the move. As Anandi's husband, a previous resident of Udaipur and its soon-to-be collector, who better than him to suggest social work-related things for her to do while in Udaipur? in I didn't watch the episodes in question, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather Shiv was more concerned about her moving away from Jaitsar and her family and less concerned about what she would actually DO once in Udaipur. It's like he assumed that she would be content with being a housewife, which is pretty out of character for him. In fact, I know a lot of us had Shiv pegged as the man who would instill more confidence in Anandi, encourage her to pursue her dreams, support her and help her push through any moments of self-doubt, etc etc., in order to show the social message that a good husband supports his wife in the things she wants to do and encourage and bask in her success rather than feeling insecure and jealous and resentful (like Jagya was about Gauri being more successful than him). And he's definitely not doing any of that right now. But who can blame him when Anandi herself seems to have zero impetus to do anything socially relevant any more and is suddenly acting like she has no idea about the basics of what Shiv's profession involves despite having worked side-by-side with him for the best part of a year? AnSh always understood each other's passion and drive for social work because they both shared similar sentiments when working together for the betterment of Jaitsar... for her to now prize Shiv's sleep over his need to help people and do his job in an important crisis situation is, frankly, an insult to the maturity and understanding of the Anandi I knew.


I apologise for the length of this post (and for any offence it may have caused anyone). But it just REALLY bothers me that a potentially path-breaking on-screen couple with a relationship previously based on trust, communication, common goals and mutual support are now being reduced to a run-of-the-mill kitchen politics jodi. The CVs can't do much about the chemistry issue... that is subjective, and no amount of romantic Kashmir footage is going to convince anyone who doesn't already support the current jodi. But they can at LEAST attempt to maintain the credibility of Anandi's character and the essence of the AnSh we once knew.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SiriuslySujal

This is the first thing I thought when I read about this track. In the past, Anandi and Shiv were equals in tackling things related to social work, such as the swine flu crisis, the neher project etc. Granted, then Anandi was on 'home turf' and was working side by side with Shiv in her sarpanch capacity. But she was doing stuff like running her school and stopping child marriages way before she became sarpanch. It just doesn't seem in Anandi's nature to me to not focus on social causes. Yeah, she's in love and in the honeymoon phase, but that's no reason for her to completely lose her essence.



I definitely agree with those who say that her character has undergone a revamp. It really doesn't help smoothen the transition that Anandi's current behaviour (independent of Toral's acting) seems to be inconsistent with her past behaviour. I am surprised that she didn't feel the loss of having something socially impactful to do after moving from Jaitsar to Udaipur. Generally, when someone's passionate about something, they feel restless if they are not directing at least some of their energy towards that purpose. Anandi, on the other hand, seems content with performing her housewively duties... and while there's nothing whatsoever wrong with being a housewife and I mean absolutely no slight towards any housewives on this forum, there was always an indication that Anandi would make something of herself beyond just being Shiv's wife, and that the partnership would be more equal, with both of them working together and using their individual unique talents to benefit the wider community. And at the moment, that's really not looking like it's going to happen...


Another thing I feel is that before the move to Udaipur, she and Shiv should have sat down and had a chat about what HER plans were for the move. As Anandi's husband, a previous resident of Udaipur and its soon-to-be collector, who better than him to suggest social work-related things for her to do while in Udaipur? in I didn't watch the episodes in question, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather Shiv was more concerned about her moving away from Jaitsar and her family and less concerned about what she would actually DO once in Udaipur. It's like he assumed that she would be content with being a housewife, which is pretty out of character for him. In fact, I know a lot of us had Shiv pegged as the man who would instill more confidence in Anandi, encourage her to pursue her dreams, support her and help her push through any moments of self-doubt, etc etc., in order to show the social message that a good husband supports his wife in the things she wants to do and encourage and bask in her success rather than feeling insecure and jealous and resentful (like Jagya was about Gauri being more successful than him). And he's definitely not doing any of that right now. But who can blame him when Anandi herself seems to have zero impetus to do anything socially relevant any more and is suddenly acting like she has no idea about the basics of what Shiv's profession involves despite having worked side-by-side with him for the best part of a year? AnSh always understood each other's passion and drive for social work because they both shared similar sentiments when working together for the betterment of Jaitsar... for her to now prize Shiv's sleep over his need to help people and do his job in an important crisis situation is, frankly, an insult to the maturity and understanding of the Anandi I knew.


I apologise for the length of this post (and for any offence it may have caused anyone). But it just REALLY bothers me that a potentially path-breaking on-screen couple with a relationship previously based on trust, communication, common goals and mutual support are now being reduced to a run-of-the-mill kitchen politics jodi. The CVs can't do much about the chemistry issue... that is subjective, and no amount of romantic Kashmir footage is going to convince anyone who doesn't already support the current jodi. But they can at LEAST attempt to maintain the credibility of Anandi's character and the essence of the AnSh we once knew.



I LOVE everything that you wrote, especially the bold one.👏👏👏
I feel and think the same, and I wrote that in some other tread.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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anandi made a mistake n she has realized it as well...and Ira as a good mother-in-law was trying to cheer her up,.while in jaitsar, ansh were not married, so anandi wont know how shiv would behave at home..or how well he maintains work-life balance...n thats what ira was trying to tell her...lets not take this to an extreme like character assassination...

anandi is a human being afterall and a woman...and right now the storyline is focusing on this aspect of anandi...and for heavan's sake its been only a week or so since ansh are in udaipur..what do we expect...that as soon as anandi landed in udaipur, she would start marching on the streets with a social service flag...give her a break...😉

she requested shiv to marry her...and her first responsibility is to make this marriage work..and she is doing just that..am sure over time we will see her vibrant avatar of taking up a good social cause...
in a way a full-blown character of anandi can be seen now onwards.

new anandi is anyways doing a fabulous job,, her expressions are quite good...really like her costume colors...esp the blue one shown yesterday..and she can emote unlike the old one who just gave stony expressions in many important scenes.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Anandi character was already butchered even when old anandi was present. When she asked shiv to marry her saying she is marrying only for her mom wish and cannot ever give her heart wholeheartedly. she is a human and can make mistakes. This has nothing to do with character changing after new anandi entered. If you talk about basic character if anandi she would have thought about shiv life first before asking him to marry her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SiriuslySujal

This is the first thing I thought when I read about this track. In the past, Anandi and Shiv were equals in tackling things related to social work, such as the swine flu crisis, the neher project etc. Granted, then Anandi was on 'home turf' and was working side by side with Shiv in her sarpanch capacity. But she was doing stuff like running her school and stopping child marriages way before she became sarpanch. It just doesn't seem in Anandi's nature to me to not focus on social causes. Yeah, she's in love and in the honeymoon phase, but that's no reason for her to completely lose her essence.



I definitely agree with those who say that her character has undergone a revamp. It really doesn't help smoothen the transition that Anandi's current behaviour (independent of Toral's acting) seems to be inconsistent with her past behaviour. I am surprised that she didn't feel the loss of having something socially impactful to do after moving from Jaitsar to Udaipur. Generally, when someone's passionate about something, they feel restless if they are not directing at least some of their energy towards that purpose. Anandi, on the other hand, seems content with performing her housewively duties... and while there's nothing whatsoever wrong with being a housewife and I mean absolutely no slight towards any housewives on this forum, there was always an indication that Anandi would make something of herself beyond just being Shiv's wife, and that the partnership would be more equal, with both of them working together and using their individual unique talents to benefit the wider community. And at the moment, that's really not looking like it's going to happen...


Another thing I feel is that before the move to Udaipur, she and Shiv should have sat down and had a chat about what HER plans were for the move. As Anandi's husband, a previous resident of Udaipur and its soon-to-be collector, who better than him to suggest social work-related things for her to do while in Udaipur? in I didn't watch the episodes in question, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather Shiv was more concerned about her moving away from Jaitsar and her family and less concerned about what she would actually DO once in Udaipur. It's like he assumed that she would be content with being a housewife, which is pretty out of character for him. In fact, I know a lot of us had Shiv pegged as the man who would instill more confidence in Anandi, encourage her to pursue her dreams, support her and help her push through any moments of self-doubt, etc etc., in order to show the social message that a good husband supports his wife in the things she wants to do and encourage and bask in her success rather than feeling insecure and jealous and resentful (like Jagya was about Gauri being more successful than him). And he's definitely not doing any of that right now. But who can blame him when Anandi herself seems to have zero impetus to do anything socially relevant any more and is suddenly acting like she has no idea about the basics of what Shiv's profession involves despite having worked side-by-side with him for the best part of a year? AnSh always understood each other's passion and drive for social work because they both shared similar sentiments when working together for the betterment of Jaitsar... for her to now prize Shiv's sleep over his need to help people and do his job in an important crisis situation is, frankly, an insult to the maturity and understanding of the Anandi I knew.


I apologise for the length of this post (and for any offence it may have caused anyone). But it just REALLY bothers me that a potentially path-breaking on-screen couple with a relationship previously based on trust, communication, common goals and mutual support are now being reduced to a run-of-the-mill kitchen politics jodi. The CVs can't do much about the chemistry issue... that is subjective, and no amount of romantic Kashmir footage is going to convince anyone who doesn't already support the current jodi. But they can at LEAST attempt to maintain the credibility of Anandi's character and the essence of the AnSh we once knew.

I agree with you on almost all the points.
I will leave the chemistry biology physics part of it.
I too don't like the way they are showing Anandi.
Agreed it is important for her to bond with her husband's family members .CVs have resorted to Saas bahu scenes and kitchen politics to show the bonding.
From the begining they have shown her to be different from others now they are showing her just as a bahu.
They could have made her help Alok with his business and Ira and CM helping her find her way in Udaipur and so on so forth.
I agree A behaved in a manner that is out of character for her when she turned off the alarm and phone.
But this is not the first time they have shown her to be behaving in a stupid manner.Even during Jyothi's wedding track they have shown her to be behaving in such untinking manner and ending up in danger.In the end she had to be resued by Shiv.

As for the current track I do hope the CVs get her out of the house fast and doing smething worthwhile with her life along with being a good bahu and good wife.

Hope our dreams of seeing A and S working side by side come true.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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first of all let's keep Toral out of it...it's about the character not actor in the scene
i agree what Anandi did was wrong...she knew everything about Shiv's responsibility...has seen him work and has even gone through same crisis yet they reacted her in wrong way but i don't think BV are butchering her character
Anandi was never practical when she was in love...she was same with Jagya...used to put extra ghee in his food...Anandi does not know how to give space to her partner...if she loves him she goes overboard to impress him
she gave up her dreams and everything for her married life and it seems she has learned nothing much from her past...she is again going back to square one
this has nothing to do with Toral...Director makes the scene not Toral
i think this scene is perfect to make Anandi realize that she needs to stop hovering over Shiv because she is indirectly interfering in his work
And most importantly mistakes happen with anyone...Anandi is a human not some super-woman..what is did is very common with wives so why not with Anandi...my mother many a times goes overboard in taking care of my father...it looks stupid to me to see such grown up man treated like a boy but that's how Indian wives are...they take their 'Annapurana' title every seriously...they cannot let their family members go without food and rest whether they have been through same situation or not
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Posted: 12 years ago
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You're right. In this issue, TR ki koi fault nahi hai.

This happened when Sugna n Gehna were replaced too. Their multi dimensional characters became totally ainvayi.

CVs can't do so to A as she's main lead and he Shiv doesn't get scenes, no one will watch.

So this middle way has been chosen but I don't think its right. A's story has to have more depth now.

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