Episode 255 Discussion: 25th April 2013

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Episode 255 Discussion: 25th April 2013


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

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Episode 255 Discussion - EOD summary

Sultan offers friendship to Madhu, RK notices Madhu giving her hand to Sultan, Madhu reveals to Padmini - Its time to teach RK a lesson
Events of the Episode
  1. Continuing from yesterday, Sultan tells Madhu that he will always interfere in Madhu's matters should he feel that Madhu is not safe. Madhu asks why. But before Sultan answer her, Aryan interrupts them. He wants Madhu to stay with them. As Madhu has to leave, Aryan asks Kaka to pack food and he will have it while Madhu is dropped at home. Madhu gives apprehensive looks to Sultan as she doesn't want to be dropped home by them. Sultan says he can understand and therefore will stop far away from her house. Madhu agrees. Aryan starts his chatting in the car.
  2. As they reach Madhu's place, Sultan stops. They get out of the car and Sultan answers Madhu's question. He says as a friend he will always be concerned about her. Madhu does not say anything. When Madhu keeps quiet, Sultan asks her to share her problem with him. Madhu blurts out that she has lied to RK, her mother and herself. And next moment she realizes what she blurted out and asks him to forget. Sultan says she can never lie to him to which Madhu answers him that she can never tell him the truth.
  3. Sultan follows her until RK Mansion's gate, (which so far Madhu has been avoiding to be seen with him) and he says she did not accept his friendship but as friend he would suggest that she should unload her heart to her mother. Sultan gives his hand for MAdhu to take his hand, whicg she accepts and Sultan holds her hand fo quite some time.
  4. This scene is being watched by RK in CCTv video footage in his room as him and Mangesh had been searching for Madhu in the house. When she is not found indoors, the outdoors coverage is turned on when he spots Madhu with Sultan. RK is seething with anger. He watches Sultan leave and Madhu turning away from the gate itself to go somewhere else in a different direction.
  5. Madhu reaches Chawl and meets up with Padmini and reveals to her that it her plan no to teach RK a lesson that he is not a God. Episode ends.

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TRP and GRP Ratings - Week 16 - 15th April to 21th April - Page 1
Edited by -MAS- - 12 years ago
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TRP and GRP Ratings - Week 16 - 15th April to 21th April



Originally posted by: river123


TFS Charu! And now I'm going to give my looong GRP/TRP thoughts...

Looks like this week, things may actually be stabilizing somewhat (post IPL start on April 3rd). Several channel including Colors, Zee and Sony, did better this week compared to last week. And although SP and Max dropped, they still held their dominant number 1 and 2 positions. Colors had a 7% improvement compare to last week, and is now at 167 GRP.


Coming down to our very own ishq and junoon - MB now shares the number 4 position with Saath Nibhana 🥳. MB TRPs at 2.7 are the same as last week. Oh joy, no more drops! That could be because things have just stabilized in the overall TV viewing marketplace; and/or that the episodes last week didn't further damage the TRPs among the core audience. I took a quick look at Shri's episode breakup by minutes to get RK's screen time for some of the episodes from last week, and I did feel like there is probably the RK effect on TRPs. Love him or hate him, the man has his faithful following (Madhu has been a consistent presence throughout the last month, so am not really focusing on her incremental impact right now. Needless to say, am sure she has a humungous following)


PS: does not take into consideration impact of adding new markets at various points. Size, viewing patterns, demographics, level of digitization etc. of those markets would impact TRPs. Also, hard to judge IPL's exact impact.

Looking at the above weekly trend chart though, it does feel like it might be a slog for the show to get back to those 3.5 - 3.8 TRP levels that we saw a while ago. The IPL and adding of new markets at the end of March did have an impact on MB TRPs, but I'm not sure that it was to the extent of being the cause for a drop from around 3.7 to 2.7 (ok, this is the point where we can blame it on the current track!) A few related thoughts:

  • When I looked at the top shows last year and how they did pre, during and post IPL, it seemed like there is definitely a drop, but not an insane one, and shows do get back (even during the IPL) to pre IPL levels.
  • Adding of new markets - these would impact TRPs depending on how large they are, how different they are from a demographic and viewing pattern perspective from the current TRP base. Note: am not sure whether they actually did include all those new markets in these TRP numbers though - so that's an unknown for me as of now.
  • Just a general point - my understanding is that TRP audiences do include everyone - not just the "middle-aged" (whatever that means in India) group. It's just that the 35+ age group does form a large part of the TV viewing universe (35-40%) and they probably watch more TV (my assumption) and therefore have a big impact on TRPs.

To the point I made earlier about things stabilizing, looking at all the other top 10 shows in the chart below which shows TRP increase/drop from last week, most of them did the same or better than last week. The blue bars are the ones that did better, the red are the ones that did worse, and the no bars (ex. MB) are the ones that were the same.


PS: all my usual caveats apply - this is a rough analysis etc etc. Feel free to point out the holes (I freely admit there's probably some!)

Edited by -MAS- - 12 years ago
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ok i know my review is going to be sick today...forgive me if it offends u...

madhu : main RK ko bohot acchi tarah jaanti hu,uska ahankaar use kabhi jhukne nahi dega
me: really u know him?? do u see he is scared ? n do u really think u can lie to him knowing the kind of calculative brain he has???
omg epitome dumbness! 👏😡😆


madhu: "ab waqt aa gaya hai..."
me: really?? ab tak kya tha? waiting for sultan's entry were u??🤣


madhu: maine jhooth kaha hai RK se maa se apne aap se
me : apne aap se? what nonsense! what did u confess during the knife scene?? pls clear ur mind if u love him or not 😆😡


sultan: wadaa karo tum maa se kahogi...blah blah...
me: wadda karne ke liye 5mins ka hand shake??!!!😡😡


aaryan: madhu tum phirse hamaare saath rehne aa gayi??😡
me: WTH! wat did u jus say?? u r a 5 yr kid y do u talk like a 13 yr old...n wat is phirse rehne aa gayi???!!!! this kid is getting on my nerve!😡

precap :
RK: ab neend khuli hai...
me: thank god!👏
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Cannot review this episode. Look forward to reading all your reviews.

Edited by Soundarya22 - 12 years ago
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I don't think I can review today's episode. It was excruciatingly painful to watch. 😕
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Very very distasteful episode, what the hell was that, not surprised that madhu wants to answer back to RK, may be in a way he deserves that too, I don't mind madhu playing RK,
Why is she looking at sultan for that supporting shoulder, is she planning to fool RK with the same 7phera Shaadi and at the end just bring sultan as the bridegroom, there by avenge RK and show him what it fells like to be cheated. She will have a ready made family by then. Are we in to this beyond disgusting turn of events.

R ur feelings for RK too equally fake?? How fast can u fool him madhu? What if he wants that physical barrier out,in love? How far can u go with him in the name of game? Hug him if possible kiss him,By walking on parapet wall, dancing in a gown , cooking for him, sharing his bed and faking smile and happiness when he is around all that will be a lie ,,,,,,,,what does that make u?Wasn't that lamest talking to sultan at RK mansion gate and going after sultan knowing how jealous, suspicious and calculative is he?
I am giving up on story line and would only watch rishabala scenes with out connecting my self with the crazy story line
Lost track what aim blah blahing the most frustrating episode ever,
Edited by Hi2life - 12 years ago
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Saw the episode mostly by fast forwarding ...total time spent -5 min.
A filler episode that continues the build up but broke my heart at the same time.
First segment was about strengthening relationship between Sultan and Madhu. As expected Sultan calls himself a friend and believes that allows him right to interfere in Madhu's affair. Aryan in his infinite wisdom🤢...once again asks Madhu if she is back to stay with them. I almost wish Madhu had agreed and spared us the twisted plot ahead.
Madhu later tells Sultan that she lied to everyone including herself- about which part?
1)She fell in love with RK before unwedding
2) She still loves RK
3)She has forgiven RK and has decided to move on
4)She is happy with RK
5)She is sure RK loves her
6) She is back in his life forever
7) Sultan is just an acquintance and she has no romantic interest in him.
Furthermore she tells Sultan that she cannot tell him the truth...why?
1)Because it makes you look pathetic
2)Because Sultan will never agree to your harebrained idea
3)Because it is not the time for love confession
4)Because it shows you are not as angelic as you pretend to be
RK sees Madhu with Sultan and his suspicions are back in full swing. Sultan asks Madhu to mend her relationship with mother. She goes and clarifies that she has had enough of RK's nonsense and it is time to answer him in his own coin.
While I understood Madhu's stand...something about her crossing over to the dark side broke my heart. It is infinitely easy to preach about forgiveness and push others into it but when you have to live through the humiliation...it becomes very hard to do the same yourself. In an odd way, she justified all RK's past actions today including his ego and apathy which are a manifestation of his fears and insecurities.
As always I am disappointed in the fact that neither Madhu nor Paddy seemed to have learned thier lesson. If you do not want to be bitten...you do not put your head in lion's mouth.
The ball is now in RK court...he is going to find sooner than later that Madhu is faking it and she is ready to go to any extent to achieve her objective ...whatever it is-
Is he going to let her play her game and take the fall gracefully or will he wage full scale war on her ...now that she too has betrayed him?
Will the latent love and goodness in his heart win or will his anger and hatred destroy everything as once before.
As I had mentioned yesterday...it is not Madhu but RK's stand which will determine the future of this turbulent relationship. I am curious to see how he deals with this betrayal knowing that he drove Madhu to it in the first place.
Edited by dramacrazy12 - 12 years ago
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Call it teaching a lesson or tit for tat...this is been the story of R.K and Madhubala since the
beginning...a common,naive self righteous,courageous girl faces a famous,shrewd,self proclaimed kameena,adamant prince...He taught her a lesson out of anger arising from HIS wounded pride...she plans to teach him a lesson out of anger arising from HER wounded pride...Her actions are in tune to her speech in the court defending her mother where she asks women to not give in to their abusive husbands...but,there is a difference between not giving in and getting back...She was always shown revolting and fighting back which earned her many admirers including her bitter sweet husband...but,never did she fight from behind...Isn't this what R.K cites as his reason to Bittuji for not doubting MB during shamsher-killer track...Crossing that line isn't she coloring herself in the same shade of R.K...crossing that line isn't she joining the same club of R.K,shamsher and Deepali though not to the same vengeful extent...her anger is overpowering her senses blurring the right from wrong...her anger/hurt is driving her actions right now...When that anger is quenched hurting R.K,when her pride is elated after deceiving R.K (then it crosses the line and becomes ego) all that would remain is the pain and guilt of falling in your own eyes for having committed the same sin of betraying your beloved's trust,betraying his love...She would loose the moral ground that she is been given until now...

I agree to what all Padmini is saying...asking her of how she can get back to the same man who humiliated her...but,isn't she needed to take that tough stand when her daughter went back to work in the same unit as him...didn't she suspect there would be repercussions to that...I would have appreciated more if pads said that she would cut her ties when Madhu went to work in R.K's set...overall it was an interesting episode 😊

Edited by himbin - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: himbin

.but,never did she fight from behind...Isn't this what R.K cites as his reason to Bittuji for not doubting MB during shamsher-killer track...Crossing that line isn't she coloring herself in the same shade of R.K...crossing that line isn't she joining the same club of R.K,shamsher and Deepali though not to the same vengeful extent...her anger is overpowering her senses blurring the right from wrong...her anger/hurt is driving her actions right now...When that anger is quenched hurting R.K,when her pride is elated(then it crosses the line and becomes ego) after deceiving R.K all that would remain is the pain and guilt of falling in your own eyes for having committed the same sin of betraying your beloved's trust,betraying his love...She would loose the moral ground that she is been given until now...



@bold: this was the reason i strongly believed that she will not take revenge...but, guess i was wrong...n maybe RK believed her for the same reason...but thanks to the webcam!
it doesnt sync well that a girl who has pride about her mannerisms will sell the same pride for revenge...that is disgusting! n she definitely doesn't know RK enough...had she been angry n kept physical distance n been truthful (even if it is faking) RK wud have trusted her in no time! but she is dumb for sure!

@rest : i agree and i want to c RK give in to her n then rise together helping each other overcome their guilt...thats the only way he can redeem...let her anger out n then forgive her...

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