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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wasn't he who stole the script and crushed the dream of Satyajit Ray's of making an alien movie? When probe about the same he denied by saying, "I was a kid in high school when his script was circulating in Hollywood'"

I found this comment on some other site:

I had done some digging up on this about 15 years ago ' shortly after Spielberg got his first Oscar in 1993. The following is what I remember from my "research." (this is mostly from what I remember ' so no references, sorry ' someone else will have to do the digging up, but this is what I put together).

James Ivory and Ismail Merchant made their first movie, together, called The Householder in 1963. Several people in their team were regulars with Satyajit Ray. Satyajit Ray himself was a major influence on these budding team of director and producer. In the DVD release of the movie, James Ivory, particularly demonstrates tremendous respect for Ray.

The above prologue is important for the context I present further.

Sometime around 1970, Satysjit Ray, possibly encouraged by his American fans, that included directors and producers, sent a script to Hollywood, about the story of an alien child who is stranded on earth, and his friendship with a young boy. This alien child is capable of healing with touch and learns to communicate with the young boy.

Satyajit Ray, apparently spoke to several possible producers, but in the end decided to scrap the idea. He did not think it was going to be possible for him to make it happen. His script was circulating in Hollywood for a year or two before Ray called it off. Spielberg denied knowing anything about Ray's script. In the words of Spielberg, "was making the rounds of Hollywood, when he was very young" (paraphrased from what I remember having read). Spielberg, born in 1946, was about 23-25. He made his first film at age 20, in 1964, and was a science fiction film.

Now comes the interesting part.

In the 70s Spielberg demonstrated his talent for filmmaking with movies like Jaws, Close Encounters', and the Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981. Spielberg was nominated for best director for Close Encounters, but did not win the Oscar.

Then came ET in 1982 and Spielberg was nominated and all set to win the Oscar for this superhit film or at least split some awards with Gandhi. However, Attenborough's Gandhi won both the Best Film as well as Best Director.

Apparently, someone influential in the Academy killed Spielberg's chances for an Oscar. My guess is it was James Ivory ' who knew Spielberg had plagiarized Ray's script.

Spielberg was furious.

He was so upset at Ray, that he reflected this venom in his own 1984 film, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom to display his anger at Ray, India and Indians in general by getting overzealous in showing Indians as "eyeball soup swallowers" and "monkey brain eaters."

Spielberg did not win an Oscar for any of his subsequent films in the 1980s.

In 1992, the Academy awarded a lifetime achievement award to Satyajit Ray. Who died that year.

Spielberg won his first Oscar in 1993 for Schindler's List.

Spielberg later said the following about the Temple of Doom: "I wasn't happy with Temple of Doom at all. It was too dark, too subterranean, and much too horrific. I thought it out-poltered Poltergeist. There's not an ounce of my own personal feeling in Temple of Doom."

RIght! There certainly was more than just an "ounce of personal feeling" There was tons of anger and jealousy of knowing there was someone far better a director and far better a human being than him.

Edited by Faberica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52
^^All Spielberg enthusiasts need to view this urgently.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Btw, even Amistad was plagiarized.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Plagiarism is not only a crime but something highly unethical and frowned upon. In the world of arts, it is an even bigger deal because artists put a lot of effort in their craft and it is often very personal to them. Inspiration can be a subjective and interpretive thing as well. You have to look at the whole career in perspective.

Suzanne Collins claims that Hunger Games was not inspired by Battle Royale and that she never even heard of Battle Royale till people pointed out the similarities. The theme of a children's battle to death game is too eerily similar to be a coincidence. In the end it depends whom you want to believe. I do believe Suzanne was inspired and is lying about the inspiration. At the same time I do respect her as an author and rank Hunger Games amidst some of the most riveting books I've read. I also commend her for expanding the theme, developing characters and exploring elements above and beyond what Battle Royale did. I commend her originality.

RD Burman is one of India's most celebrated, talented and innovative music director. Some his songs are sheer genius. The way he worked with unusual sounds, fused western and classical Indian elements, played with sound textures is nothing short of jaw dropping incredible. But he too plagiarized some songs. What shocks me is that he plagiarized a song from one of the world's biggest hit songs of the disco era – Abba's Mama Mia. As an Abba fanatic, it grates me. But at the same time I'm an RD fan too. I have a lot of respect and admiration for him. A few lifted songs didn't change my opinion of him.

Microsoft didn't make anything original in the beginning. Bill Gates bought QDOS for cheap and made it into DOS. He then ripped off Apple's hardware GUI and ported it to software functionality to make Windows. Despite that Bill Gates is still a pioneer in the computer industry. Even though the ideas were bought/inspired from elsewhere he that the business sense, acumen and vision to make them into something extraordinary that the original creators did not have. Had it not been for his creativity, technological progress may not have been the same.

As for ruthlessness, bitterness and getting personal, Steve Jobs is a prime example. He could not stand to see Google's success with Android. The fact that someone else made a mobile OS platform to compete with the iPhone angered him. He did not like the fact that it was cheaper, more flexible, more supportive that Apple platforms. He didn't like people switching because of price, performance and compatibility. He liked to believe him and Apple were the pioneers of many technologies and didn't acknowledge that many concepts were organically developing in the industry. One of his goals in later life was to destroy Android – and he was the driving force behind Apple's plethora of frivolous lawsuits. Bitter and personal yes. It actually made me lose a lot of respect and admiration I had for Apple and Steve Jobs. But at the same time it doesn't take away from what they accomplished in the past nor what things they may do better in the future.

People are flawed and imperfect. It is very rare to get a role model or hero or someone to look up to who isn't flawed. Almost every human has displayed gaping flaws like arrogance, lying, manipulation, lack of originality. You see that especially in industries like movies and music where people are blindsided by the drive to succeed. Sometimes it is almost necessary.

Steven Spielberg is definitely not perfect. He definitely made mistakes and missteps. But if you look at the progressive graph of his career, he grew better as a director, a producer and as a person. When you look at his accomplishments he does have a lot of original, pioneering successes that outshine his careers. If one demands a higher standard it is far to say that Steven Spielberg is not worthy of accolades. At the same time it is unfair to say that people who do admire him are groveling before Hollywood (maybe some do, but I think for many people it is sincere admiration for a highly successful director – nor do I think everyone is nave about his flaws).

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Posted: 12 years ago
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^I'm not discrediting S.S.'s credentials as a top Hollywood mass-entertainer director. He deserves accolades where he has proved his cinematic genius or where he's displayed originality. But that would not stop people to whom the other side is more endearing, to blast him or call him out on his fallacy. (like you said, RD's plagiarizing from the Abba group touched a nerve with you).
Yes, very rarely are idols without flaws, no dispute there. But I think Spielberg does not deseve as much idolisation as he is served up with.

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