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Posted: 12 years ago
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I understand Gopi is trying to show Rashi the right way ie.. Making her see that lies bring nothing but trouble. But I think she is going about it wrong. There are different reasons for that. See the way Rashi and Gopi look at things in itself is different.

Gopi considers that if a lie hurts someone, even if it brings short term joy, it should still not be said. But she takes blame and lies if she thinks that will help others. So from Gopi's PoV, a lie for the greater good is alright or lets say a lie that does not profit oneself but other's is alright.
To Rashi, it is the exact opposite.

There is another reason they have so different an opinion. Gopi has, in all her life found that lying has got her nothing. Remember the mistakes of Rashi she lied about and took on herself at various stages of her marriage? All those times have brought nothing but misery to Gopi and hence she knows that lies are not the way to go. Gopi has along with Ahem, learnt a valuable lesson in the Anitha track when their hiding and lying only led to more complications than otherwise. So Gopi, in her experience knows that lies do not help her at all.. Not in the wrong run anyway.

Now let us look at Rashi..

She lied to get married to Jigar. She lied to get back with Jigar. She lied about wanting a child. She lied to Gopi about her marriage and lied to get Gopi into trouble. All her lies did have their impact. They gave her short term victories and long term ones too. Her psyche is for instant gratification and Rashi gets it when she lies. Take for instance today. Her lies about the Dhobi and the Undiyo got her off didn't they?
So no wonder Rashi thinks that she is smart to depend on lies to get her way.

What Rashi does not realize and what Gopi is failing to show her is the fact that these small lies can lead to major things in the future. Yes. Rashi got married to Jigar because of the lie but she also faced a time when she was thrown out of MM due to the same lie. Yes, Rashi got high when Gopi was insulted because of her lies but the same lies made her look evil in Koki's eyes and got Gopi the place she has earned with the Modis.

I think at the end of this track when Rashi has to milk the cows herself, Gopi will tell her the above maybe in a shorter version. I am not sure Rashi will understand but there it is😊

However, what would have been a better way in my PoV is to let Rashi face the music everytime she lies instead of protecting her. For example if Gopi had let Koki know the truth about the clothes and the truth about Undiyo, yes, sure Rashi would have cribbed but the root cause of these lies would have been fixed. Rashi would have become more responsible and less lazy which is why she lies to get out of the jobs.

Gopi is taking the round about route for a simple problem IMHO. Like the rest of the fish family members, Gopi by protecting Rashi is spoiling her. Maybe the milkman issue will make Gopi think differently.

The only good thing about all this is that like Koki, Gopi also believes in something and is working towards it unlike the fish family that cares naught about how their DIL lives her days. 🤢

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Awesome post harini...👏...lies don't take us nowhere...and for rashi it s habit, for small small reason she keeps lieing, where there is actually no need at all...it was a wonder why rashi lied about Apples...that means it is her habit, quick and easy...but she thinks it is smartness,..but gopi needs to show her what she got after all that smartness,,as you said nothing but troubles...but I think this tack is going to bring something different, no as usual ...may be rashi will face some serious problem after lying, and gopi will show her to learn in hard way...because I think cvs are emphasizing the sentence too many times, that lying will not be good for baby...so surely there is a catch ...what do you think?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: basuanasuya

Awesome post harini...👏...lies don't take us nowhere...and for rashi it s habit, for small small reason she keeps lieing, where there is actually no need at all...it was a wonder why rashi lied about Apples...that means it is her habit, quick and easy...but she thinks it is smartness,..but gopi needs to show her what she got after all that smartness,,as you said nothing but troubles...but I think this tack is going to bring something different, no as usual ...may be rashi will face some serious problem after lying, and gopi will show her to learn in hard way...because I think cvs are emphasizing the sentence too many times, that lying will not be good for baby...so surely there is a catch ...what do you think?


You are right Anasuya.. I first thought after today's episode that Gopi is doing something useless but thinking about it, I realized that Gopi is just trying and this is just the beginning.

For starters Gopi has started with showing Rashi that it does not do any good to lie. But like today Rashi does not care much except have that sudden notion of guilt from somewhere that will go phut in minutes.

Tomorrow will be the next option. By making Rashi donate the jewels, I think Gopi is trying to show her that joy can be got from doing good things and one can make up for the lies by atleast doing the right thing later. With Jigar unhappy with her, I think Rashi will plan to agree to this donation as we know that Urmi is supposed to plan to take the jewels herself. Rashi is going for a win win and it will backfire again.

Finally when all that fails, Gopi will see that it is better to let Rashi see the consequences of her lies and I can see the milkman thing getting blown up right into Rashi's face. Gopi will not hold Rashi's hand and Rashi will see that instead of getting off with a small scolding when she did the wrong thing with the milk, she got herself into bigger problems by lying. The track most probably ends with Gopi trying to say the same thing to Rashi and Rashi accepting, albeit ungraciously that maybe Gopi is right.

But there may be more to this. The next track may be a continuation of this experiment. Lets see.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Loved your post Harini... 😃...
As they say for any good cause if you lie it is ok.. but Gopi said she did not lie, but she took the blame on herself so that Rashi won't lie again and because of that another lie and hiding stuffs etc..
Gopi is smart.. going the Bhagavad Gita way, I love her when such dialogues are given to Gopi... she is soo good at showing the truth and honesty..
What Gopi wants is that she wants to mend Rashi at her level, without involving Kokila, by forgiving Rashi a few times or taking the blame on herself (now that she has taken a stand) she is thinking that just by explaining time and again, Rashi might change, that's why Gopi put a condition that Rashi has to listen whatever she says and she has to do whatever she says..
I think both Ma Beti decide that they will be careful while Gopi is around, but still do all KKs, lies etc and they are probably thinking that they can get away with it, but this time no, Rashi's lies will come out in the Maha episode..
Gopi will reveal hopefully...
Rashi is so clever as we all know, she knows really well how she can twist things and get the way out..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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^ but just read the spoiler, nothing seems to come out... godd.. what are they planning to show in ME?..😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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awesome post Harini 🤗

for any good n ture person lies always have to foam of ways.. One for good perpose n scenod for bad.. So for Gopi if u gave some one happiness with ur lies or someone get not hurt from ur lies so its good there no bad though in it.. Like Gopi did for Rashi today Gopi not actually say lie to Koki she just want to shown the different between Rashi's lie or has lies.. Rashi lies always went trouble sometime for herself or sometimes for Modi's.. How easily today she throwing her mistake blame on poor Dhobi without think once wht will Koki does with him 😆 or not even Dhobi so many time Rashi threw her mistake on others shoulders.. Thats we call pathetic.. Rashi did never think fro other beside herself just bcoz she want herself save to Koki scolding so she make victim poor Dhobi.. 🤢

n scenod lie im wondering wht such big deal if she didnt likes apple.. If u didnt like something so u tell them that u didnt like it so simple yaar... There is not like breaking mountains.. I do not think there need to say lie.. Lying is now become Rashi habit part of her daily rotuine their never gonna changed ever... 🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Gayathri, the ME seems to be about the Kumbh Mela if the other spoiler is true😕 This track, I see can go till next Tuesday. You see there were 4 tasks that Gopi puts in front of Rashi as per the spoiler. Two got over today. The Dhobi and Undiyo..

Now that Gopi has seen that Rashi is not going to change her ways even after being requested again and again, she will take it on her head to take the next step in the form of the donation of Vansh's gift to show Rashi that when one does lie,they have to also make amends.
Unfortunately 'smart' Rashi will fail to see why Gopi is asking her to do this too and continue her lying when she spoils the milk. I guess that is the limit of Gopi's patience and she will then decide to let Rashi face the consequences of her actions and step back.😛

I totally agree Gayathri. It is indeed pretty good to see Gopi use the simple truths from Gita and other scriptures and show that it is easy to live a better life. 😛

BTW, do you think Gopi used the pregnancy as a reason hoping that if the child comes into picture, Rashi may take her more seriously? I feel so😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice Harini. You have laid it all out perfectly and the subsequent replies are just as good. There is absolutely no fear in Rashi. She may claim that she is scared of Kokila but I don't see it that way. To continue to pull the wool over everyone's eyes and have no scruples indicates to me that Rashi is not likely to change any time soon.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -GiNa-

awesome post Harini 🤗

for any good n ture person lies always have to foam of ways.. One for good perpose n scenod for bad.. So for Gopi if u gave some one happiness with ur lies or someone get not hurt from ur lies so its good there no bad though in it.. Like Gopi did for Rashi today Gopi not actually say lie to Koki she just want to shown the different between Rashi's lie or has lies.. Rashi lies always went trouble sometime for herself or sometimes for Modi's.. How easily today she throwing her mistake blame on poor Dhobi without think once wht will Koki does with him 😆 or not even Dhobi so many time Rashi threw her mistake on others shoulders.. Thats we call pathetic.. Rashi did never think fro other beside herself just bcoz she want herself save to Koki scolding so she make victim poor Dhobi.. 🤢

n scenod lie im wondering wht such big deal if she didnt likes apple.. If u didnt like something so u tell them that u didnt like it so simple yaar... There is not like breaking mountains.. I do not think there need to say lie.. Lying is now become Rashi habit part of her daily rotuine their never gonna changed ever... 🤢


Actually I do not agree with Gopi's concept of it is ok to lie if it gives another some happiness. 😊 A lie is a lie Sherry. There is no good lie or bad lies at all. All lies lead to problems, big or small in the long run and Gopi knows this too.

For example if she had told the truth during the batwara track instead of hiding the mango thing, maybe Hetal would have realized that something is wrong with Rashi's version of events already. But in the name of saving family peace, Gopi lied and it led to bigger issues later on.
Baa's lie may have helped Koki and Hetal patch up but it did not get to the origin of the problem which was Rashi. In future the same thing can happen again as the Modis do not know what exactly happened. There is IMHO, no good lie at all. We just postpone the inevitable for later.😊

Rashi, as we have seen is a compulsive liar. She lies whether it is needed or not. She just likes to lie I think. That is why I do not think that gopi's way will do anything initially.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Xarina

Nice Harini. You have laid it all out perfectly and the subsequent replies are just as good. There is absolutely no fear in Rashi. She may claim that she is scared of Kokila but I don't see it that way. To continue to pull the wool over everyone's eyes and have no scruples indicates to me that Rashi is not likely to change any time soon.


Thanks Xari😛

@Bold is something that makes me shudder from time to time. You put it right. Rashi does not know fear. Yes she pretends to be frightened about Koki but in truth if she was she would not make the mistakes. She is actually very sure that she can escape.
This very attitude makes me frightened of her because Rashi has no morals at all and does not even consider any consequences. The near fire that killed Hetal ,the cooker KK, the chilli powder.. All that is an example of how spiteful and cruel and along with it how very fearless Rashi is when she does underhand things. That attitude, I am really afraid of

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