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BarunDiwani

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Posted: 12 years ago

#881

Originally posted by: samin6

You know taking a shower or even staying in the same room does not necessarily mean something in the south Asian culture, esp since many houses have only a washroom attached to a bedroom unlike in USA where usually there is one in the hallway. By the way the AIDS scare did its job. So what was actually very common in late 1990s and early 2000s is not so common now. I know because I saw the difference last time I went. In the 1990s it was a taboo not to have a bf now I would be surprised if someone even goes out. You would actually think that in the past people were more decent then you are wrong. They had less knowledge of invading personal space and everything. They usually bathed in the pool and river in front of every one and changed in front of a lot of people and did not even think this was wrong. You can go to any maternity hos in USA or Canada and you will see that there is at least a barrier in SA in even many big hospitals the women are breast feeding and there is not even a simple curtain between ladies, not to mention that men enter into the wards even though it is mentioned not to.

Hi Samin, 😊i totally agree with you about back then vs. now. just b/c things were taboo before, doesn't mean it didn't happen...it was just behind closed doors and hush hush, noone spoke of.

But when i said about westernization, i was referring to ppl losing touch with the culture but my pt was that even ppl who have "modernized", like the way they show La, know the basics of certain things. if they had shown her as a NRI, it would easier to digest her total lack of understanding of certain things.

As far as the shower is concerned, i agree in normal context, its not a big deal but in this case, In this HUGE house with so many bathrooms, La specifically asks where his room is which suggests that they're close enough to share his room and his shower. I think this was CV's way suggesting that they have been intimate and though Arnav and La think nothing of it, Nani's reaction is very telling why she is opposed to they staying in the same room.

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Mysticaldivine

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Posted: 12 years ago

#882

Originally posted by ..Anita..

Episode 49!!!!!!

In this episode not much really happend..it was just about lavanya settling into the RM

The episode started with nani and anjali talking about lavanya...Anjali said that lavanya did not argue when she said that arnav and la will be in different rooms and that means that the respect her. Nani was not buying that excusenani was saying how she does not know anything and told anjali that she needs to give lavanya a task that is hard but not impossible to do. Anjali said that one month is a short time to learn all the traditions and the way to act as a bahu...Nani retorted saying you did not having any trouble being a wife and bahu...this kind of stuff is learned (i cannot think of the right word at the moment...it is on the tip of my tongue so i am using the word learned as a replacement) and it is not taught. In this scene nani reminded the of amitabh bachan in sarkar...the way she is sitting. Nani does not want to accept lavanya so she is finding faults in everything.

As for la and mami...mami is just nice to her because she is modern and .she is the ticket for arnav to get married so that akash can finally get hitched..Also la is using mami to get close to nani...she chose the wrong person. Then arnav appeared after a while and la said can you believe that i came to teh RM in a shalwar khameez...not the type chamkili wears...Arnav went into Khushi dreamland...La said that she calls her chamkili so much that she forgot khushi's name...and arnav said Khushi Kumari Gupta. La said whatever...and asked why he came. Arnav said that he came to tell her not to take nani seriously...

the scene shifts to Anjam's room...shyam is trying to call the guptas...preferably khushi...and the phone was not going through...it turns out the phone is not hung up correctly...Anjali comes from behind and grabs the phone...she said who are you calling and this is why you have no time for me...Shyam gets mad and calls her anjali...anjali was like are you mad and goes to see who is calling (seriously if your husband is mad at you for taking his phone don't look up who he is calling...do that later) shyam gets annoyed and turns around..anjali gets the hint and limps off...i am not sure if shyam felt guilty...and he turns around and calls RS...

Bua ji is using her inhaler like crazy because she is stressed out because her two nieces are leaving...she tried her best to make them stay but fail...khushi is still doubting her decision of leaving and is waiting for a sign to tell her to stay.

Everyone is at the table...la comes up and sits next to arnav...nani immediately tells her that is anjali's spot...arnav is like wth lady...mami ji tells la to sit next to her. nani then questions her besides making cake with eggs in it what else can you make...she said she can make packet noodles...but nani is like actual food...la said that she has servants so they cook...anjali jumps in saying we have servants too...nani then said that it is not good to depend on servants (something like that)... Anjam comes and shyam said that it is good to see the whole family together. THey sit down and shyam is trying to talk to anjali but she is mad at him...Shyam said are you still mad at me...and arnav immediatly gets worried. Shyam said that plate is lucky atleast it gets your attention...and she melts (honestly i would melt if a guy told me that)...The family is having chaat...and the family is saying how everything in lucknow is amazing...Shyam was telling arnav even though you live in delhi...lucknow things have a certain flavor and uniqueness...he was thinking of khushi during this time. Anjali said that khushi is from lucknow...mami gets mad hearing her name, shyam is tense, arnav is listening intently now, la is annoyed, and nani is happy to hear her name. Anjali said that when khushi goes to lucknow...we should tell her to bring back some sweets...arnav thinks about khushi telling him about leaving to lucknow for ever and shyam is thinking about khushi in the teej sari...the episode ends on the both of them...They looked like a mirror image of each other...i think it was to show how this one girl affects their lives and how she is the only common factor they have with each other.

Hey anita,

LOved this take.Black stood out for me.In red agreed why Anjali can't check this any other time?????La indeed is a ticket for Khushi's entrance into RM...👏

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BarunDiwani

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Posted: 12 years ago

#883

Originally posted by: chalhov

ASR to Di
Ek aur baat Di, Agar mer zindagi mein aisi ladki kabhi aa bhi gayee na, to mein usse door hi rahunga, kyu ki mein apni zindagi dimaag se jeeta hoon, dil se nahi
phir yeh sab kyu why ASR why don't you really realise that the slight mention,thought is taking your thoughts back to Khushi what you are denying yourself but yeh dil hai ki manta nahi(your heart is not listening to your brain)
I feel this is what is happening to him I have made slight changes to this song of Silsila very appropriate for this current episodes where ASR dil is always going back to his memories of his different incidents with/of Khushi.Why this rabba veying in front of Khushi's😉 house and waving chunni taking him back to the store room when he was with Khushi.This show as mostly on ASR POV which has contributed to its popularity along with Barun Sobti's acting not like the typical shows which always cater to the female lead keeping in mind their female viewership.The Sanaya acting as lovely and innocent Khushi along with the other cast and crew it was very good the story was well shown in these episodes whether it was Shyam or La or RF or GF.
Di asking him do you know this area and this narrow slow lanes and why not is this not where his love is so how will he not know his Dil knows but Dimaag will not accept. He has to and will travel this way how many times he knows not

issi raah pe nikalte
getting through the same road

yeh kahaan aagaye hum, yunhi saath saath chalte
where is this that we have come, walking together for so long

Coming there his thoughts run away from him to where his Dil is leading to
Main aur meri tanhai aksar ye Sochate (baatein karte) hain
i n my loneliness I usually think (have this conversation)

yeh sochta hoon main kab se gumsum
i've been thinking quietly since then

ke jab ki mujhko bhi ye khabar hai
that i'm aware of it too

ke tum nahi ho, kahin nahi ho
that ur not around, not there at all

magar ye dil hai ke keh raha hai
but this heart which is telling me

ke tum yahi ho, yahin kahin ho
that ur here, somewhere around here

Remembering the guesthouse incident saving her going there how can he not and then remembering it always his 1^st tender touch gently pushing the hair from her face(Zulfon ko bhi choone khi izzazat nahi)

tu jahaan hai mein vahaan hoon
wherever u are, there i will be

hamein milna hi tha humdum
we are destined to meet my soulmate

Hi Chalhov,

thanks for the above, i have yet to see this episode i remember his moment very well, it gave me butterflies when he kept looking at the lock on that house. He was screaming quietly. just love this dard of this love.

I absolutely love the song you incorporated, an awsome job dear!

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Mysticaldivine

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Posted: 12 years ago

#884

Originally posted by: samin6

He was called Creepwa for a reason. Specially between January and June whenever I saw him in the same setting with Khushi it would creep me out. Specially the part when he was shirtless in Khushi's bedroom and bathroom I was really scared for Khushi and realized Arnav's presence was what was preventing Shyam before. At that point I really wished she would tell at least Payal or go to GH because Arnav was not there and she had an excuse to go

Yes I really hated that period love his acting but was scared for Khushi and yes Arnav was the biggest barrier for her and He was taking advantage of it as he was the KIDNAPPER himself.I felt disgust in my stomach for his behavior every time when he was in her room or touch her.At the top his pass word .Thank God NK was proved a real brother to her.

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indi52

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Posted: 12 years ago

#885

episode 48

a play of life i guess, sometimes our worst enemies bring us the richest gifts. when shyam came to give advice to his saale saab he had no idea what he'd actually end up doing. at the start of episode he'd played a really low game with his trusting, loving wife. pretended the girl for whom an incorrect emotion was cultivating in him, was actually someone's mother. and continued to smile with an undertone of desire at the thought of khushi. felt illicit, was so too.

then lavanya was brought home by asr, all would have gone well, but again nani couldn't reconcile herself to this whole notion. especially seeing lavanya in her revealing clothes and hearing her even more bare all words. she knew nothing about things that were important to naniji and her family. arati was alien, eggs entered a vegetarian household, then the sitting close to her chhote, asking him to show her his bathroom so she could go for a shower, and at naniji's objection to her staying in asr's room, la's suicidal explanation about the meaning of living in.

utterly enraged, the matriarch ordered the staff to show la to the guest room. irked by the way his girlfriend had just been spoken to, her grandson seethed and threatened to leave home... with lavanya... if this behaviour continued.

keeping in mind the sentiments of most viewers and the demands of story, writers didn't take it all the way to asr insisting, la will stay in his room and nowhere else. months later, his defence of khushi before a judgmental, hard hearted dadi will have a similar strain but a million times enhanced. where my wife is not welcome, there's no place for me. however at this point, he is committed to a partner, but not head over heels in love with her. his sense of self is not tied to this person, he wants la to be treated with courtesy and not be insulted just because she has a different point of view on marriage and other traditional things. plus, she is a guest in their home, as he points out to nani.

so he let it pass after a seriously angry retort, choosing to stalk off to his room instead; and take off his jacket swiftly, in characteristic asr angry mode. how wonderfully barun created this man with gestures clearly visible, and many tiny details you'd miss but they'd make asr more and more real: the way he'd stare with unblinking gaze at the computer, utterly absorbed, the way he'd walk when angry, the sudden glint in the eye, the mask like expression in the initial days, eyes different only when looking at khushi. how effective he was and what the reach of this level of performance was got even clearer to me this afternoon.

a friend of mine was in cambodia recently, and the manicurist at the parlour told her she was very fond of watching an indian soap. really? which one? she couldn't say the name since it was in cambodian, but she said, you know it has that boy who's always angry. the girl doesn't know hindi. she watches a dubbed version, so she doesn't even hear barun sobti's voice. yet, she loves that angry fellow.

back to shyam manohar jha. he was instrumental in crafting the moment that made the episode for me. while warming to his theme of how to handle opposition and manipulate people to achieve one's own end, he told asr:
"saale sab yaad rakhiye... kaman se nikla hua teer, aur zaban se nikla hua shabd kabhi wapis nahin liya ja sakta..."

remember, saale saab, the arrow that's left the bow, and the word that's left the tongue can never be taken back...

asr's attention was arrested. shyam went on,

"aur zindagi koi video player toh hai nahin ki rewind button dabaye aur galti sudhaar li."

and life isn't a video player that you'd press the rewind button, and correct your mistake.

galati. sahi galat. main sahi hoon. asr's eyes changed tone, he got up slowly from his bed, disengaged in a moment from all around, deep in his fortress, he stood staring at nothing, expression deepening in his eyes, he almost braced himself for what was coming...

and a hand reached a pearl dori on a vulnerable back and snapped it ruthlessly.

a terrified pair of eyes looked at him, tears rolling down tender cheek.

he let go of a hand, and she fell backward, shock seizing her expression... down onto the boxes below.

he pushed her against a drum, holding her wrists tightly that storm tossed night, her eyes welled up, he's cut her wrist, blood oozed out.

he remembered everything he'd done that was galat, not right, toward her. and now she was going away, there she stood telling him to be happy, never again would he see her face. going to lucknow hamesha ke liye.

i realised he did sorely regret these actions of his. and it was this early in the story, not months later. in fact, he was not the sort of man to treat a woman in such a way. yet, with her he seemed to just overstep the limit, he had no idea why. he'd asked himself in the rain the night he saved her from an oncoming car, why is it that for the first time i feel what i'm doing is not right? but then he'd averred, no... main sahi hoon. arnav singh raizada ko kissi ladki se koi faraq nahin padta.

it was important for asr's own self image to be sahi. but this internal acknowledgment of his being wrong had more to do with her than his idea of himself. he didn't want to be like that with her, he wished perhaps there were indeed a rewind button. he knew there wasn't.

and she was going away. how he regretted it. she, about whom he couldn't stop thinking, just now when he entered with lavanya and di did arati, his mind flew to khushi, there she was doing arati during teej, and now...

he stood their motionless, taut, his fists closed tightly... a swallow as though moved beyond a point, a moistness in his eyes... camera moved in, shallow erratic breathing. saansey hi ruk jayegi.

stunning minutes of emotion, recognition of error, and immersing in a feeling.

if this was the end, at the beginning, another meaningful wordless scene. one with khushi. this time devi maiya played the move herself. payal asked khushi if she'd forgotten to take something? wasn't she bringing dm along? khushi actually had forgotten to put her in her bag. so hassled she was after throwing that made up on the spot, going to lucknow story at him. now it was a reality, but she wasn't sure of her decision.

she sat on the bed, dejected, talking nonstop.
"jiji, pata nahin humne sahi faisla liya hai ki nahin. kash kahin se hume aisa ishara milega jo kahega ki khushi tumne bilkul sahi faisla liya hai."

jiji, don't know if i took the right decision. if only a sign would come from somewhere saying, khushi you've taken absolutely the right decision.

sahi faisla... right decision. what's galat, what's sahi. some day, they will cross these limits and realise some things are beyond all that.

not that such signs were given to her usually, she muttered. charming quintessential khushi by sanaya. one part of her all nutty and innocent girl, the other a woman who feels the unease within, a call of someone in her. was going away the right thing to do?

then realising her folly, she jumped up and picked dm up with both hands, full of apology. the goddess's chunari fell off, was this a symbol of uncovering of a truth? a revelation?

and khsuhi saw him leaping to catch and save dm in that store room, the two of them falling, him upon her, their eyes meet, and hold. rabba vey swirled in.

khushi put dm down on the desk. unbearable pain. khushi is silent.

a few other thoughts.

i always felt a funny sort of tenderness toward la. despite her seeming hardness, and shallow demeanour, she was a girl with many possibilities. and she was independent. willing to take risks. capable of true love. even at this moment her love for asr was genuine. and she was smart enough to sense what asr felt for her was nowhere near what she felt for him. but she who'd eat eggs which she was allergic to because he liked eggs, would let her ego take a back seat just to be close to him. how touching that moment when she said in the earlier episode: i know what you're going to tell me, the plan to move in with you is off. she always feared this was not going to work out. sixth sense of a canny girl? and no matter how harsh he was, no complaints. she just needed him more than he needed her. that's how relationships sadly often are, aren't they? the writers seemed to forget she was allergic to eggs... or maybe she made that cake specially for him.

an episode rich in expressions and interaction between family members, its power outlay and the games within that.

mamaji: bhai, kaa khichadi pakaa rahe ho aap dono.
ah, sign of things to come, mamaji was an endearing character, so much potential. but the khichadi that the ph, channel, and creatives pakaaoed was too strong for his tastes i guess.

shyam: waise achhi toh woh bahut hain...
but you are bure, bahut bure.

la: tumhara room kahan hai.
asr: main dikhata hoon.
crisp language, i like. smooth voice, hmmm. and if anyone had any doubts as to their level of sexual intimacy, those seven words say it all.

akash: ma, please!
so sweet our akash was, again why did they go and make such a khuchadi of his character.

asr: shadi aur baki riti riwazon se mera koi lena dena nahin hai. and i've had enough.
aw, i love the angry man, i've had enough of everyone badgering him. what's more, i have no issues with him wanting to live life his way.

naniji: theek hai hum ek mahina ki maholat dete hain...
nice condition, writers making way for khushi to come back.

mamiji: half people wahan gayen, half people eehan gaye, ab hum kahan jai, hello hi bye bye.
just one of the many gems from the lady this episode. like pearls on khushi's dori, mamiji's utterances fall one by one, the sound echoing long after the words are gone.

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Mysticaldivine

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Posted: 12 years ago

#886

Originally posted by goofy

Hey guys I loved your analysis.

@ INDI your 46 and 47 PLZ take a bear HUG three times...and have a tango dance with me.Your Quotes..just wow

@Cinthiann Loved your 47 &48 .The title Lion's Den just as it is written for it.Sorry could't find 46

@Ami I loved your 46 and 47.I love the way you incorporated each scene with the past.Dil vs Dimag awesomeee

@Arshi Unbelievable again 46 and 47 just too good especially 47 your transition from one scene to another were too good.Pauses,symbolisms and collages..too good

@Anita Short but right to the point

@Sohara love your remarks in 46 and 47 about Shyam.LOL

Because of shortage of time can't do longer analysis.Hope u all forgive me but I do reading ya ALL :)

Thnx Goofy .Don't get upset I am in the same boat but trying my best.Thnx for reading.❤️

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Mysticaldivine

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Posted: 12 years ago

#887

Originally posted by: supriya.arshi
Episode 44

Title Credit : Cynthia
Picture Credit : ArshiHamesha (Thank you for the pm's...it would hav been tough to search for ur reviews )

@Goofy/...thanks 😊

Welcome back Superiya.Thnx for such nice collages.

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Putija

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Posted: 12 years ago

#888

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani

Hi Chalhov,

thanks for the above, i have yet to see this episode i remember his moment very well, it gave me butterflies when he kept looking at the lock on that house. He was screaming quietly. just love this dard of this love.
I absolutely love the song you incorporated, an awsome job dear!

Thanks BarunDiwani 😃I am a very late starter so missed most of the analysis so thats why I love to read this thread whenever I get time where all of you 🤗 (a group hug)give such lovely analysis sometimes I try nd read the indexed thread of redux director,s cut crooner etc. and try to post something when i get time in between.I have downloaded all the 398 episodes 😳😆 and watch whenever I get time.

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BarunDiwani

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Posted: 12 years ago

#889

Originally posted by: ..Anita..
Episode 47!!!!!!!!!!!!

The episode starts off with arnav watering his plants thinking of khushi and what happened at the store room. He was thinking since she is leaving, why is she still in my mind...it does not matter that she is leaving (it so does matter to arnav...she is the only girl to capture his heart and bring down his ego time and time again...and it bugs him) on the other hand it shows khushi making roti, mindlessly...and payal asked her to get the ghee...but khushi is not paying attention...payal got her attention and said yes jiji our train is in the evening and our tickets are book and she left...Payal noticed that something is bothering khushi but she does not know what. Anjali came to see arnav and is wondering why he is pareshaan, she thinks it is because of La...i must say anjali knows arnav really well...she mentioned he is doing all this to show nani and mention how if someone competes with him, he gets angry and makes rash decision that he ends up regretting (This girl is a freakin genius for once). She said that decision about love should be made with the heart and not the brain...she mention what happens in love and Arnav is thinking about khushi, because he knows the words are true but are in denial...He cracked a Joke (and in this scene arniekins looked maha sexy...i stopped breathing). The sibling scenes were shown to show the audience the the Older sibling know their younger siblings and that they are worried and try their best to solve their troubles or give them words of wisdom.

Khushi gets on the phone and she is talking to garima, she tells khushi that the store is going and she is crying...shashi came and said why did you tell them...he really wants his kids not to worry. Khushi said that they have to go to lucknow now to help their parents. Bua ji suggests that khushi should ask shyam for help and payal agrees. I thought payal would not agree because she suspects that he was doing nothing about the pension. Khushi goes into thinking mode

Arnav went to la's apartment (if i must say it look like the Modi's house in SNS but they just zoomed in on one window...i now that house is shown in a lot of dramas thought...they could have just shown an apartment complex) La opens the door and hugs arnav and he does not hug her back...La was saying that she does not under stand arnav and what he is thinking and she is wondering if he really loves her...he avoids saying yes and said if i did not why would i bring you to my house...this makes la happy...Arnav is still talking and she went to get her bags...this made arnav mad and he thought of khushi and how she did not listen to him...So arnav grabed la and said listen to me when i am talking...la gets scared and said sorry...arnav cools down and tells her that they are leaving

i was getting really happy that there was no shyam in this episode but he ended up showing up in the last two minutes :( Anjam had a moment...really did not pay attention. But anjali leaves and shyam gets his phone smiling and sees that khushi is calling him...shyam said that he was thinking of her, and right then he sees anjali's reflection and stops talking

did anjali hear shyam???

Anita! lol, first of all i love the greens 😆 shyaam did show up last two mins didn't hu? we all love to hate the man. the blues stuck out for me but like ur to the point ishtyle!

oh in the black, good eye, i guess they interechange lots of things in desi show, i heard they used hotwa's backscore in qubool hai 😭 NOOO!!!!! yeh hume bilkul qubool nahi dammit

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Katelyn

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Posted: 12 years ago

#890

Originally posted by: indi52

supriya,
bhelcomes back. lovely one there. i want to see 45, 46, 47, 48, please 😃. did you do that index you were thinking of?

Glad you are back Supriya! 🤗 We missed you! Awesome collage! 👍🏼 Hope to see more if you have the time, dear!

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