Assad and Zoya - The Missing Element

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

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Posted: 12 years ago

Indian dramas tend to follow the same pattern when it comes to couples falling in love...it is either love at first sight...or as I have often seen, two people hating each other and then, suddenly falling in love. Rarely do we see much in the way of two people becoming friends or simply bonding together BEFORE a declaration of love takes place.

Love is often depicted as a physical attraction with extreme intensity, often the opposite of the hate that we see between two characters. The love is so unreal that a viewer can become exhausted by watching two characters continue to proclaim their love to the degree they will sacrifice for them...and then stab them in the back by sacrificing that lover for the love of a family 😕 Confused, yes, so am I.

So here we are graced with the Assad and Zoya who clearly do not like each other but are forced to live, and to some degree interact with each other. However, for love to develop between these two, an emotional connection has to take place. Connections often come in the way of getting to know the other person, interacting with them, conversing with and even doing things with them.

Assad and Zoya don't do anything together; they have not had one conversation where they have talked about themselves. Assad knows nothing about Zoya and she knows very little about him. For love to develop the writers have to bring these two together in a situation that requires them to WORK together thereby bringing an opportunity for them to connect. If you remember in my James Bond senario, the traditional plan is for them to both work their way out of a mess and in doing so have opportunity to talk and bond with each other...subsequently, they can develop an opportunity to look at each other differently.

A lot of people want Assad and Zoya to fall in love...but what I want is to see them to talk with each other and gradually feel attracted to the point they want to know more about the other...learn their likes or dislikes...and then have the opportunity to do things with each other...I mean how about Zoya and Assad participating in a card or board game at the house, a cricket match, fixing something, going to the movies, buying a wedding gift on behalf of Dilshaad. The two have fought together...so how about Zoya challenging Assad to a fight or asking Assad for tips (this might amuse a lot of you here)...

Zoya is constantly in Assad's room but the two of them have NEVER talked - they have not had a mature adult conversation. Thus for love to start, there has to be an emotional connection.

For me, this is what I have yearned to see - to people engaging in adult conversation about each other - in an Indian drama but no luck. I hope that they writers read this post and help fill in the missing gaps...hopefully they already see it and will give us more good stuff. So far they have done an awesome job!

Edited by Laila2009 - 12 years ago

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kavmuks

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Posted: 12 years ago

I do like your post and I would say you are correct unto large extent.

Since I can't name show here.. PKDHMMPP but there are couple of shows who have managed to get rid off this hate-love cycle and they are doing well ..

On the other hand I think a bigger challenge or crises that a lot of show has to go through is till lead has not fallen in love they can keep showing fights etc. etc but the dat couple falls in love .. their story line goes missing .. then they are at loss as how to maintain the story instructing… fortunately I am seeing some shows now who begin with parallel tracks right form the beginning. This way they keep the audience occupied with other tracks and also gain more time to show the love track and once it happens then also they have backup story tracks.. to merge with

But - the main ingredients of the shows remain -

Something secrets hidden from main lead to take the dram high point to be revealed in front of 200 people

Troubled pasts making hero rough and rude (Girls seems to be loving it on shows but real life such characters cannot be even tolerated)

Over sincere, truthful, daring female lead who does things by hiding from family and succeeds where all male members just look at other sitting in the drawing room

Vamps, vileness who have most in convincing reasons to make other life hell

and so on ,..

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princessjojo

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Posted: 12 years ago

The thing is that if they show Asad and Zoya to have developed good understanding, how will they justify their separation and the introduction of a third angle Ayaan?

The unspoken love is what creates the drama, angst, passion that keeps audience hooked.

As a compromise, I think they will show that both Assd and Zoya get to know each other but through Najma's, Dilshaad and everyday happenings rather than regular heart to heart talks. They might even give us 1-2 such interactions before Asad is bombed with the news of Ayans interest in Zoya. Thereafter we might see him withdraw into his shell leaving Zoya feeling rejected and without answers.

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princessjojo

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Posted: 12 years ago

I think it will be fun to see Asad go from denial denial denial to sudden epiphany.

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Humaya

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Posted: 12 years ago

I would love to see them both waking up early to watch a cricket match on a lazy Sunday or something. One with M.S. Dhoni too!

That would be something they would definitely bond over!

I thought after the Akram incident, Asad would realize that it wasn't Zoya's fault and he would warm up to her. But his opinions haven't really changed much.

I want to see a time where Zoya can stand up for herself without his help and defend another girl too without the help of a man. They make Zoya's character out to be a feminist but she doesn't do much physically besides talk about her pepper spray. I wish there were physical confrontations that she could intelligently solve and Asad would be forced to think differently of her.

Another thing that could wow Asad is her knowledge of technology. They only showed that through the phone password incident and the installing a home security system incident. There's much more Zoya can do, I'm sure. Maybe help him get rid of some sort of virus? Maybe recover an important file for Asad that he's accidentally lost?

I'm not a huge fan of the whole "hate-love" thing. I just don't get how in so many shows, they have to show the man saving the girl all the time, man-handling her often, and eventually the two falling so deeply and intensely in love. Love should be about knowing little things about your significant other. Spending some time with them. Learning things about them that nobody else would know. Sharing your deepest, darkest secrets. Having said that, Zoya and Asad have a long way to go!

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Macbeth

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Posted: 12 years ago

I would love to see Asad-Zoya having mature conversations. Be it about life,their bitter past, their mutual love for Dilshad, Najma, cricket or anything. Perhaps have a heart-to heart discussion about their respective views on traditions without throwing accusations in each other's face.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: princessjojo
The thing is that if they show Asad and Zoya to have developed good understanding, how will they justify their separation and the introduction of a third angle Ayaan?

The unspoken love is what creates the drama, angst, passion that keeps audience hooked.

As a compromise, I think they will show that both Assd and Zoya get to know each other but through Najma's, Dilshaad and everyday happenings rather than regular heart to heart talks. They might even give us 1-2 such interactions before Asad is bombed with the news of Ayans interest in Zoya. Thereafter we might see him withdraw into his shell leaving Zoya feeling rejected and without answers.

If they do not have a good understanding or bond, they have no connection therefore the separation would not hold much merit. Their attraction would be based on what? A an intense physical lust? A physical bond? That's all it is right now. There is no unspoken love - there is love to begin with. What you see a over-the-top melodramatic type...that has no depth. It's the fleeting kind. It also depends on the audience you are trying to hook - one that prefers to have two people intensely attracted to each and you see a lot of heart palpitations, blushing, etc...the kind of stuff that really has not depth but a lot of sparkling fluff that can be exhausting on the viewer rather than holding their interest. When two characters have depth combined with humor (this Zoya and Assad have), you can keep watching these two over and over...Zoya and Assad scenes have worked because the writers have pushed them together - they've created reasons for their interaction and now is a time to take them further and it does not mean they have to fall in love.

The idea that Assad will sacrifice his love for Zoya and Zoya will allow herself to fall in love with Ayaan after being attracted to Assad is bothersome and shows a flakey heroine which I do not like. Should Ayaan fall in love with Zoya but she is pushed into a marriage with him much against her wishes...that's another matter. If Assad should give up his love for Zoya believing she does not love him...then that is at least tolerable.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: kavmuks
I do like your post and I would say you are correct unto large extent.

Since I can't name show here.. PKDHMMPP but there are couple of shows who have managed to get rid off this hate-love cycle and they are doing well ..

On the other hand I think a bigger challenge or crises that a lot of show has to go through is till lead has not fallen in love they can keep showing fights etc. etc but the dat couple falls in love .. their story line goes missing .. then they are at loss as how to maintain the story instructing' fortunately I am seeing some shows now who begin with parallel tracks right form the beginning. This way they keep the audience occupied with other tracks and also gain more time to show the love track and once it happens then also they have backup story tracks.. to merge with

But - the main ingredients of the shows remain -

Something secrets hidden from main lead to take the dram high point to be revealed in front of 200 people

Troubled pasts making hero rough and rude (Girls seems to be loving it on shows but real life such characters cannot be even tolerated)

Over sincere, truthful, daring female lead who does things by hiding from family and succeeds where all male members just look at other sitting in the drawing room

Vamps, vileness who have most in convincing reasons to make other life hell
and so on ,..

Often the storyline goes missing because the characters do not have much going on in their lives and second, you cannot base an entire year plus show on a romance. It just won't work. If you have a sitcom it might but sitcom also have a strong supporting cast. QH is working hard to have other story lines but here I am focusing on what is the missing element of the Assad and Zoya love story.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: Humaya
I would love to see them both waking up early to watch a cricket match on a lazy Sunday or something. One with M.S. Dhoni too!

That would be something they would definitely bond over!

I thought after the Akram incident, Asad would realize that it wasn't Zoya's fault and he would warm up to her. But his opinions haven't really changed much.

I want to see a time where Zoya can stand up for herself without his help and defend another girl too without the help of a man. They make Zoya's character out to be a feminist but she doesn't do much physically besides talk about her pepper spray. I wish there were physical confrontations that she could intelligently solve and Asad would be forced to think differently of her.

Another thing that could wow Asad is her knowledge of technology. They only showed that through the phone password incident and the installing a home security system incident. There's much more Zoya can do, I'm sure. Maybe help him get rid of some sort of virus? Maybe recover an important file for Asad that he's accidentally lost?

I'm not a huge fan of the whole "hate-love" thing. I just don't get how in so many shows, they have to show the man saving the girl all the time, man-handling her often, and eventually the two falling so deeply and intensely in love. Love should be about knowing little things about your significant other. Spending some time with them. Learning things about them that nobody else would know. Sharing your deepest, darkest secrets. Having said that, Zoya and Asad have a long way to go!

Zoya did defend Najma from some guys who harassed her at the school. She ended up in jail and to this date Assad has no idea why she was there...it is an important element of the show that Zoya defended Najma.

I do like your suggestions...the story is lacking in showing us what Zoya can do and other than the password incident we have seen nothing. Zoya does not even seem to care about the earring. Zoya and Assad have not even talked about the incident nor does he care for her to know that he did apologize...nothing has really grown from that scene. They have not even talked about their injuries.

Your last paragraph was 👏 You summed up so well what I see is the problem. This is all fun to watch but we can have as much fun with a scene of Assad and Zoya getting to know each other while doing something amusing...even when he challenged her to the trivia on cricket - that was awesome...how about them both challenging each other to a game...or a both of them participating in game where they challenge someone in their neighborhood - how about some neighbor whom Assad cannot stand...we need more interaction of these two before we see the declaration of love.

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Eternal1234

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Actually to an extent you are correct that for love to bloom they has to be an emotional connect between the characters only then will they get tose vibes of love in someway...But asad is not a kind of a guy who will show his emotional side to anyone and mostly zoya he would rather cry secretly and not let anyone know about his upset mood as he has seen his mother this way all through his childhood and would not want her to be sad again because of him again...so for that i feel first zoya and asad should develop a rapport with each other where atleast their conversations happen...but thinking of adult conversation that is just not possible in an indian drama...but hopefully the writers have something really interesting instore for asad and zoya track no doubt that they are doing an amazing job at present but viewers would always want a little more everytime they watch the show...
Hope the creatives read india-forums topics sometime atleast to know what are the views of the viewers

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