Episode 148 Discussion: 18th Dec 2012

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Episode 148 Discussion: 18th Dec 2012


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.
Today's LU from : Armu4eva
  • There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
  • Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
  • The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
  • The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post/thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3347858/episode-147-discussion-17th-dec-2012

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Episode 148 Discussion - EOD Summary

Let's fix our families before fixing ourselves in a saat-phera marriage

Episode Events
RK comes home with that Trishna curse in mind. He catches hold of Madhu as she falls down who is trying to remove the photo from the wall. The Photo is of hers and RK's taken at Jagrata, gifted by Radhaji and fixed by the man-servant. RK lets the photo be and clears all misunderstanding between himself and Madhu. He cites his understanding of Madhu's reasons as to be her wish to fix Trishna's career, fix her mother and her Malik's (Shamsher) life. He then asks, will she come with him once her fixing is done. She says yes. Then RK proposes a saat phera marriage to Madhu to rectify his mistake. Plus he also says the marriage will be taken up until after they have fixed their families. Then Madhu proposes that not just her family needs to be fixed, even RK needs to fix his relationship with his mother. RK is angry, but he feels there is some credit to it. He spends the night in his painting room. He is in the middle of the painting when he spills the color platter. He remembers his mother instructing him to be careful with colors, brush and paint with the emotion whatever comes from his heart. He now tries to do the same. After a while, he sleeps. When he wakes up he sees that he painted a total black painting with no emotion. He calls for his servants for washing his hands. There comes Radhaji with water. Upset he calls for Madhu and goes to Hall. Radhaji tells that Madhu had gone to temple and she gets him tea as all servants are on leave. RK doesn't talk but takes to the kitchen and keeps it aside and starts making tea by himself. He ponders and in the end, he decides to let it go and has the tea,
Highlight of the episode
RK and Madhu understand each other. RK understands Madhu's dilemma and tells her that Madhu cannot forgive Shamsher Malik for what he did and yet she cannot deny that they have a relationship. There is pain, but she needs to just let it go as that would help things. Likewise Madhu reminded RK that he cannot forgive his mother, but there is a relationship that he cannot deny and he should let go the pain as it would only help him move on.
Beauty of the episode
When Rishabh Kundra looks at his black painting and doesn't like what has come out from his heart thinking about his mother. At that kind of expression from inside, makes him realize that he needs to let it go, call it truce so that his heart can picture/hold beauty. Loved how his conflict went on between his making his own cup of tea and the cup of tea that his mother made for him.



Episode Reviews
Page 1 - Leela, Applenpeaches
Page 2 - Charu, MarathiMulgi, SD, Soundarya
Page 3 - himbin
Page 5 - tanu07, SD, Pippa
Page 6- ritzy09, applenpeaches
Page 7- dramacrazy12, DovesView, kodai
Page 8- RKLover
Page 9 - kt25, savz_uniqueblis
Page 10 - zoya_naziya
Page 12 - SD, Gurtiluv

Comments
Page 2 - Gurtiluv (RK Insecurities), Zorica (RK-Rads relationship)
Page 3 - Gurtiluv (RK Insecurities)
Page 4 - Zorica (RK-Rads relationship)
Page 5 - SD (DVD plastic hug for supposed to be Rishbala's warm hug)
Page 6 - Pooja1
Page 8 - Zorica&SD (Rishbala's hug), Red_Opium (The Photo that Rads gifted)
Page 11 - dramacrazy12 (Test of Love -Condition)
Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Today's ep was worse than Friday's in that I would watch Friday's ep - even the depressing last few minutes - but only a few minutes of today's ep.

This ep felt not like series "Madhubala" but rather series "Radha".🤢

Will Madhu never learn? Must she always go recklessly crusading on missions?

And her causes are never worth the effort she goes to.😭

First cause, Mukund.🤢 He would be completely recovered in a few days, and the settlement Bittuji was offering would be of immense use to him and his family. But Madhu inspired him not to take it, sent the superstar to jail, and was then shocked that she didn't get to have her happy life back.

Mukund's mother got the money from RK for a different, more proactive task. Madhu and her family were the only ones who paid for her forgetting that if you fight for truth and justice, you should make sure you have nothing to lose - because you will lose most or all of it. It's a basic law of life.

Second cause, an apology from RK to Padmini for embarrassing her. Madhu never thought her mother's dignity called for defending or speaking up when Mukund's mother humiliated Padmini openly for *lack of virtue*.😕 But RK embarrassed Padmini about her *poor acting skills* and being a superstar's junior-artiste mother-in-law - and that too in a very respectfully disrespectful way - and Madhu challenged him that she would have him apologize to Padmini.

And she compounded her confounding standards by blackmailing him with photos that she received from an anonymous source.

And *then* she didn't think that if he was willing to debase himself and his immense pride and *apologize* to keep those photos private, then she should tread with caution, figure out that she was in way over her head, that there was something else going on about the photos, and set aside the embarrassment to her mother as a mild addition to what Mukund's mother had already spewed.

She was horrified when she finally found out just what moment those photos had. RK should have told her at the outset and prevented the entire debacle, but he didn't.

So we need not hope that Madhu will get a fullblown presentation of the leeches and their champion 'loving mother Radha who never did anything wrong and whose son doesn't appreciate her wonderful choice of second family for him'.🤢
And that is the third cause - Radha🤢. Madhu knows *nothing* of RK and Radha except restrained contemptuous comments from RK and several 'poor loving mother Radha' accounts from Radha herself.

But RK still cares about Radha - in his own words "a festering wound close to his heart".😭

RK won't badmouth his mother. Even his criticisms are restrained.

And Radha criticizes him extremely to his face and behind his back all the time - and that too very 'loving mother' style.😡

And she doesn't think anything that has happened was ever her fault.🤢

Madhu must make Rishabh less bitter, and then he must automatically accept his mother again. The mother needs to do absolutely nothing.😡

Even for the jagraataa, she was introducing Kukku as RK's father.🤢

If RK accepts her as mother, she will think it's authority to force him to treat Kukku and Sikki as his respected father and elder brother as well.😡

Madhu is - in her pure innocence and inability to understand Radha' depths of selfishness - setting RK up to have the wound named Radha opened up for salting.😭

He hasn't sent Radha and her wonderful Bhatia family away despite her husband and stepson both being quite capable of earning a livelihood.

And now, he is to forgive the woman who thinks she never did anything to atone for, and her son forgiving her should be a natural byproduct of her son setting aside his 'unreasonable' bitterness and animosity towards Radha herself, 'loving stepfather' Kukku and accepting what 'a concerned caring family' foursome he has thanks to his mother.😡🤢

Watching him drink that tea prepared by his mother was a terrifying moment, like opening up a festering sore that you have no way to cure.🤢 It will hurt worse, it will not get better, and status quo will take a very long time to get back to.😭

Madhu, please stop going on missions without doing detectivework.

Playing detective is a most respected aspect of Hindi serial leading ladies. I don't want you turning into a typical serial-heroine in any other aspect, but this one quality you can surely imbibe with benefit. Please?

The girl cannot bear to even see RK *remembering* getting hurt, and she is manipulating to try to get him closer to the one who can hurt him deepest from the closest point?😭

Madhu may even succeed in this mission. She certainly succeeded in the first two, and the denouements after each success were catastrophes each in their own right.🤢

I could bear this ep in all of two scenes - until Radha came with that blooperdom photograph (never saw a photographer at the 'jagraataa'😕), and then from after Radha left to until Madhu started to persuade RK for 'Maa'.

The Rishbala scene was fabulous until the Radha-aalaap started.

So, is this to be like the Dipali situation where worry for a disappeared RK got Madhu to grab Dipali by the arm and unapologetically threaten her?😃

And if so, how badly will RK be hurt by Radha this time before Madhu stops confusing Radha with Padmini?

Padmini bagair kahe bhi nibhaati hai😳, aur Radha kehti hai par nibhaati nahi😡. It is an immense petrifying difference between the two mothers.

And RK's is the mother who happily came and told Madhu that the father (Kukku) and two sons (Sikki and Rishabh) were sitting and talking at ease with each other when actually it was a veiled-taunts match going on.😕

How much better will the other three Bhatias be able to wound RK when Radha is no longer held at a distance by RK to limit her ability to hurt him worse?🤢

Damnit, Madhu, please hurry up and get shrewd.😭 The contrast between your absolute selflessness and the paragon of shameless selfishness that is Radha is unbearable.🤢

Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Had friday not happened, I would have been ecstatic with the episode.. Sadly, it did and I dont feel too excited.

The rest of the episode is Madhu trying her hand at plumbing. Hope she fails. 👎🏼


Copying from yesterdays thread..

Yesterday I felt sorry for RK- bcos this guy has turned so pathetic now.. Where is the strong man that was there on screen all these days? He is now the weakest hero on Inidan telly. Emotionally. He is a broken man. He was someone who guarded his privacy,. And today he announced to all and sundry his deepest feelings, fear, pain. How much has this man fallen. Its sad. Perhaps bcos both RK-Madhu are connected by the ajeeb bond, Madhu also told everything to Radha. I could understand RK's case bcos he is no longer able to contain his pain inside. But Madhu, cant you for once zip your lips and throw away the key? Do you even know what you are getting into girl? Once the woman gets what she wants, she will no longer be after you. And if I am not surprised by the CVs, we can expect another Saas-Bahu TRP drama.

Till yesterday, Radha was the only leaky tap. Now Madhu is giving her tough competition. Madhu should learn to shut her mouth and use that energy to think. You have you husband to worry about. He is on a path to self destruction and depression. Unless you focus your energy on him and your relationship, I am afraid Trishna's curse would come true.

Edited by applenpeaches - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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it was awsme..lovd rishbala hug..
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Originally posted by: applenpeaches

Had friday not happened, I would have been ecstatic with the episode.. Sadly, it did and I dont feel too excited.

The rest of the episode is Madhu trying her hand at plumbing. Hope she fails. 👎🏼


Copying from yesterdays thread..

Yesterday I felt sorry for RK- bcos this guy has turned so pathetic now.. Where is the strong man that was there on screen all these days? He is now the weakest hero on Inidan telly. Emotionally. He is a broken man. He was someone who guarded his privacy,. And today he announced to all and sundry his deepest feelings, fear, pain. How much has this man fallen. Its sad. Perhaps bcos both RK-Madhu are connected by the ajeeb bond, Madhu also told everything to Radha. I could understand RK's case bcos he is no longer able to contain his pain inside. But Madhu, cant you for once zip your lips and throw away the key? Do you even know what you are getting into girl? Once the woman gets what she wants, she will no longer be after you. And if I am not surprised by the CVs, we can expect another Saas-Bahu TRP drama.

Till yesterday, Radha was the only leaky tap. Now Madhu is giving her tough competition. Madhu should learn to shut her mouth and use that energy to think. You have you husband to worry about. He is on a path to self destruction and depression. Unless you focus your energy on him and your relationship, I am afraid Trishna's curse would come true.



True peach, but his wife did'nt look too thrilled when he said he would take the next step in the relationship after their marriage which is after she settles her family in between which Madhu will settle his family. I thought she looked disappointed unless I read it wrong😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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TG i have this thread to rant..

i was wrong , very very wrong..i want THIS one to be erased frm my memory...this is not MB i liked..for me, they butchered RK today, on Friday he was normal 😆 !! these kind of episodes come when the serial is ending ! what happened to them?

what's the whole bloody point of showing a MU when they had to resolve it in 2 mins, that too , this way? he again didn't let her speak ! the falling frm the ladder scene didn't look romantic to me...poor VD, himmat hai ye scene karne ki !! the photograph was not romantic..Madhu ki pic toh aisa lag raha tha ke kisi political party ke agenda se li hai...the confession was not romantic, it was rushed and i couldn't see any emotion in either RK or Madhu's eyes or face..as soon as MB ended, Big boss came n it started with "chahe koi mujhe junglee kahe" song 😆 i wanted to dance to it bec. i expected a gr8 patch up scene and then it was not a dream but the epi. was a dud 🤢 yahi sab karna tha toh they cud have showed a real nice romantic confession at the farm house itself...why rona dhona?

the only good thing was the hug which was good but not gr8...the best shot was when he closed his eyes while hugging her i liked the song also..tere ishq pe..finally they moved on to "main toh bas teri chahat mein" 👏shadi ka video is paused, no problem ! but whats with Ma, and maayka issues? MA was dealt with today and maayka tomorrow so day after? after tht scene, jo my BP started shooting ! kya hai ye sab? frm 8 months they r showing this problem b/w ma - beta..aise karna tha theek ? RK ke ghar mein no servant, 3 clowns bhi gayab, kya yaar? no questions asked, no answers seeked..tomorrow RK will go and hug his mom, kahani over? i love you na ho gaya poori duniya hi badal gayi...

wah ! kya kamaal ki painting banayi thi..reflected my emotions also..what was the whole point of that scene? Radha ne pehle hi sabki chutti kar deni thi aur chipak jaana tha bete se..sab theek aise hi ho jaata.

i wud love to watch RK-Madhu frm now on, but please ! bring in some visually appealing elements..change Madhu for a start..plz shed her behenji avtar..she can wear saarees like Dips can't she? for God sake don't change RK this much 😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
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"Life is what happens to you when you are busy making other plans" - By Beetles

You can't pause your life while you are solving family problems. Koi samzhao RK ko. Shaadi ka video pause nahin play karna hai.

Koi Madhu ko bhi batao ke ma-bete ka rishta koi doosra thik nahi kar sakta. Woh koshish to ma aur bete ko apne aap hi karni hai.

Ek chai ka pyala sirf pyas buzhata hai, barson ki galatfaimiyan nahin dur karta. Maybe it symbolises a crack, a slight opening...

In today's episode I felt that roles are begining to reverse. RK is showing signs of maturity, sensitivity towards his biwi's unspoken thoughts, emotions and expressing his wish to make things right by Madhu. Madhu on the other hand is losing the grip on the reality of the situation failing to realize that tute huye rishte firse judne ke liye waqt aur patience ki jaroorat hai.

Every time I think mein sirf dil se likhungi lekin dimag kab takeover karta hai pata hi nahin chalta...

Ek shikayat RK ki hair style ke bare mein... In the previous scene he has one hair style but when he is shown sleeping in the chair his hair is combed different way...

I know I know we should not apply logic while watching but i want everything to be perfect for RK and Madhu. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Iam Disappointed With The Episode... 👎🏼
Cv's Ruining All Characters... We Can Ignore All Other Characters.. B'coz They Are Used According To Situation.. But.. How Can They Drop.. RK The Most Strong Character In Our Show.. in Just 1-2 Epi.. It's Really Pathetic.. 🤢
RK Should Have Thrown The Tea/Coffee.. 😵
I Mean Seriously.. Madhu's "Maa-Bete Ko Melao" Babhiyan.. Successful In 1st Attempt.. 🤓
Iam Feeling Like Watching Climax Of The Show and End Me Sab Teek Hogaya 🤔 Just Aise Hi..😡

Hit Point's :
* Rishbala Hug 👍🏼

Down Point's:
* Whole Episode 👎🏼

@SD : Sri...Waiting For Your Review... Please Make It Quick.. Iam Sleepy.. After Watching Epi.. 🥱
Edited by Santhu.The.King - 12 years ago
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@applenpeaches
RK weaknesses and insecurities were always there he just covered them up with his attitude but know they in the process of healing so things need to get worse before they can get better.

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