Episode 126 Discussion: 16th Nov 2012

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Episode 126 Discussion: 16th Nov 2012


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.
Today's LU from : Armu4eva

https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3294545


Note:
  • There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
  • Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
  • The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
  • The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post/thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3292958/episode-125-discussion-15th-nov-2012


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Episode 126 Discussion- EOD summary

Events of the episode

  1. Padmini calls up Madhu to find if everything is fine. Madhu assures her that RK trusts her and when Padmini asks about Radhaji, Madhu at the pretext of some work, disconnects the call.
  2. Padmini leaves Malik's house as she feels she cannot stay in Malik's house after what he did (attempt to kill RK).
  3. Madhu gives RK his medicines while he is reading scripts. Madhu lingers and asks him, why he did not let Shamsher get punished. RK avoids giving answer and instead sends her off to cook.
  4. Bittuji asks RK, why he is not wary of Madhu. RK explains his trust on MAdhu as to how Madhu can never go around beating the bush if she had wanted to kill him. RK also warns Bittuji never to mistrust Madhu again.
  5. Madhu is cooking Daal for RK. Enter Dips and Radhaj into the kitchen. Situation is hostile. Dips suggests to Radha that the daal Madhu is cooking might have been mixed up with poison.
  6. RK, Bittuji and Bhatiya family have settled to eat at the table. Madhu is not seen anywhere. Radha asks Dips to serve food for RK.
  7. Dips serves food within RK's plate in quite s**tty manner, which strangely goes unnoticed by the rest of the family.
  8. RK calls for Madhu and asks her to serve him with food cooked by her. When Radha stops him, RK asks Madhu to feed him so that he can put up the act of him feeling as if he is having food as fed by his mother. A cutting scene at that with his mother sitting there and he imagining his mother as if she was some beautiful memory of the past...and him talking to his wife in sweet remembrance.


Episode content Reviews:
Page 1 - Manonids, Leela, Siri22
Page 2 -Munni_123, SD, Soudarya
Page 4 - apolloartemis, SD
Page 5 - SD, kt25
Page 6 - Dovesview
Page 7 - applenpeaches, Gurtiluv, SD
Page 8 - savz_uniqueblis, Zoya_Naziya
Page 19 - himbin

Rangamunch review - http://www.rangmunch.tv/index.php/writers-gully/reflections-menu/item/2148-madhubala-blame-betrayal-misunderstanding

Telly Tadka review - http://www.telly tadka.net/telly-tadka-spice/kissa-zeher-ka-madhubalaeiej/ (remove the space between Tell Tadka)


The 7 qualities of Indian Wife - as shown in the feeding scene of today's episode.
Page 9 - Munni_123, savz_uniqueblis


The feeding scene - the intentions and the emotions
Page 14 - SD (intentions)
Page 19 - himbin (emotions)


Indepth Analysis of character growths
RK explorations along with relational impact on Madhubala
Page 10 - SD
Page 17 - Leela, Manonids,
Page 19 - SD

Shamsher character - explorations
Page 10 - SD , kt25
Rangamunch - http://www.rangmunch.tv/index.php/fans-adda/fan-story-menu/item/2033-shamsher-mallik-a-paradox


*****NOTE****
The thread on the whole is delightful. Thanks to the delightful episode, the readers and writers participating on this thread.
Beautiful interpretation by everyone...at par with Rangamunch and Telly Tadka. I am feeling we can all join them 😆

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An unexpected Good episode on Friday!!! The way Madhu is getting impatient to know RK's change in stance against Shamsher, I wonder where this curiosity will lead her to now. whenever RK has tried to hide something from her, she has always landed up in some or the other trouble. ...Sigh ...Its good that RK cleared residual doubts of Bittu G and gave him straight warning that he won't forgive him next time if he ever thought anything against MB. I dont know but how Bittu G must have felt that RK is giving so much importance to MB against his years of loyalty. ( RK's underlying warning to Bittu is something to watch out for in future). Moving on, RK knows Madhu will never backstab him. His dialogue ..."woh baat aur hai ke woh gun maathe pe rakhege aur goli lagege Kaan pe "😆 showed that Madhu is Katchi Khiladi in front of RK at this stage but equations can change later.. Radha giving RK's responsibiity to Dipali 😡...how dumb she can be !!!! Is there any limit 🤢...Dinner scene was good where RK asserted his firm and somewhat blind trust on Madhu in front of his creepy family. His dialogues about his mother, hurted Radha a lot but no wonder this woman will never understand his son's pain. Precap is another trick played by RK where he just wants to see what would be his family's reactions if something happens to him, and no wonder, Dips started hurling her accusations on Madhu instead of worrying about RK 😆, while Madhu wasting no time is asking for calling a doctor. I wonder what makes Dips so confident that she knows RK more than anybody else. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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At this rate, RK is going to make his wife go grey before her time (metaphorically speaking).😆
I'm *almost* sure that he's pretending the choking because he has figured out the argument that had Madhu ousted from preparing his food - that she'd poison his food.
A hue and cry being made about 'poison' will brings Dipali's variety of poison out into the open, and ease Madhu's difficulty on at least one front.😊

Plus, he's plainly standing for his wife😳, and has finally made it clear to the Bhatias that Radha won't be able to save them if he feels compelled - by their actions - to act against them.😃

I loved the way he talked about his mother fondly like she was dead - with her sitting right next to him.👏😆

The boy is going to be the husband his wife needs😳, and I hope to God that Madhu soon hardens up against the leech foursome🤢 and especially Radha🤢.

Start thinking of Radha's tears as a particularly deadly sort of venom😡, and the correct reaction will follow - caution and distaste, not worried compassion.
Re. Padmini storming out and the likelihood of her turning up at RK's home, I would prefer that first Padmini and then Shamsher as well move in permanently with RK.😊

RK needs people to protect him especially from his own 'family'🤢. Bittuji alone can't cut it, and Madhu is still naive in recognizing people.

But Shamsher and Padmini are extremely protective of Madhu, even as much so as she has become protective of RK.
Right now, their desire to keep RK from harm has to do with the fact that he is a good husband to their daughter and Madhu now cherishes her marriage.😊

But as they both gain RK's regard and develop a parent-child bond with him beyond the in-laws relationship, they are certain to establish the relationship with him even independently of Madhu, which is - ironically - sure to please her since RK and Madhu seem to now operate in reaction to what is expressed vis-a-vis each other rather than themselves.😳

RK has tolerated slights to himself in his home without especially retaliating, but he spoke out with courteous but deadly firmness to protect Madhu from the same.😃

And Madhu too has been holding the way RK is treated as the meter by which she maintains her own relations with the people in question.😳 She is still floundering in her desire not to truly understand the venality and putrid moral corruption of the four Bhatias. But it has become staggeringly clear that nothing she owes anyone - even her adored Maalik - weighs heavier with her than RK.😳 Her parents favouring RK as much as or more than her would almost assuredly please her immensely.😊

Padmini will, I think, have a harder time than Madhu in forgiving Mallick.😭 She is, first and foremost, a mother. Her gratitude to Mallick for all he has done for her and her daughters pales into insignificance at the thought that he intended to himself turn Madhu a widow within the first few months of marriage rather than be horrified even at the thought of it.

Padmini is - in ways both overt and subtle - extremely different from Radha.😛

Radha is supposedly the progressive woman who remarried, but with the excuse of needing a father-figure for her son rather than admitting that her need for a sweet-tongued support who would foster her every fond delusion far outweighed her son's needs.😡

Padmini, on the other hand, is ultra-conservative. And yet, the choice that Radha made of favouring her husband over her son is the sort of choice Padmini made in reverse.😊

When push came to shove, Padmini swiftly discarded every hope and delusion that would endanger her children, and abandoned her husband. It was a maternal protective decisiveness that Radha - though far more cosmopolitan on the surface - was incapable of.
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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All who wants to get rid of Dipali and Leaky Tap (Radha) press the like button...
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I for one LOVED the epi. No complaints whatsoever from my side. Couldn't resist posting. I liked it even better than yday's.

Got answers as to why RK trusts Mads so much. Thanks to Shri too for explaining on the other thread.

Precap - Obviously Hotty is just pretending.

@ Peach Thanks for the vdo on the other thread. If I didn't see it I would be freaking out seeing the precap and thinking Hotty is really poisoned.

Mads - I may sound mean and not that I want to see Mads all sad and all but I'm really liking Mads now. She actually listens to the MAN.

And she did look beautiful when she was cooking in that yellow dress.

Radhaji - I don't understand her. How difficult is it for her to ask forgiveness from her son? Even though she thinks she did not make a mistake by marrying Kukuji she atleast can tell him that "Unknowingly I may have committed a mistake" or sth. like that.

Instead she blames Mads and cries buckets and buckets of tears.

First she was doing Mads bhajan and now totally against her. These two extremes in her character is really irritating me.

And a ? - Why am I being singled out as a phangurl? Don't we all collectively drool over Hotty?😉


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I just want to know whose idea is to choose VD for RK's role!

Now I cannot imagine any other actor as RK!

He is brilliant again. The attitude, the smirking ,the dialogue delivery spot on!

This guy understands everybody so well but he is an enigma to others. How he explained Bittuji about Madhu 👏

Comparing mother's khana with Madhu's khana brilliant idea. Indirectly showed his mother the importance of Madhu in his life.

Again today's episode belongs to VD!

Special mention dialogues!

waiting for SD's take!
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Originally posted by: applenpeaches

All who wants to get rid of Dipali and Leaky Tap (Radha) press the like button...



I am in.. And who is tired of seeing RK mansion , chawl , Rk mansion , chawl, RK mansion , chawl , RK mansion , chawl...

CV's pls give us different scenes or locations.. Want to see RK taking out Madhu for dinner , or to the movies or even a stroll down the beach.. I know they are not in love yet , but friendly gesture from him would be nice




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I second Manonids review. That's what I felt.


Today entertainment and screenplay wise, I rate the episode with an A.

For the first time, they made a progressive episode on a Friday rather than a filler episode.

Emotional content of the episode was focussed on understanding the ramifications of an event that had changed personal equations forever. People are broken, confused and rattled, ready to become the viper snakes which can bite you to death out of its own fear. Fear looms large...fear of every sort ,,,only making it more and more vicious...ready to lash out venom. Only few people remained to stay calm absorbing the fear and guilt and confusion.

Padmini - Malik - trust - broken
Confusion against Madhu - by Bittuji
Fear against Madhu - Radhaji (RADUNCE - The leaky tap) and Dips Bhatia

Spitting Venom
  • Padmini against Shamsher
  • Radhaji against Madhu
  • Dips against Madhu and RK

Clearly Padmini has forgotten what Shamsher did for Padmini and her family in all that altruistic manner. She is leaving him, isolating him in his guilt when he needs family support. She is leaving him ...She couldn't live with his erratic judgment and actions.
Question to Padmini - Had you been married to Shamsher, would you have left your husband in that manner ? I doubt it Padmini ! I doubt it !
So selfish of you Padmini ...so damn selfish of you.

Radhaji has forgotten that she once trusted her son's life in Madhu's hands and Madhu did keep all her promises to her. And yet Radhaji has no gratitude now.

Dips Bhatia is so threatened for her life that she has become the rattled snake. She can just bite..A snake has never been attributed with any intelligence. It can gobble up its own eggs if hungry. Nature made it bad that way. I don't know why. May be for all others to see it an epitome of fear, confusion. A coiled snake capable of putting its tail in its mouth...


Good scenes
Padmini comprehending what Madhu must be facing in her Sasuraal. Her allusion to Durga Pooja ...nicely done. Ignominy of the Madhu the Wife nicely represented through this story.

RK explaining what Madhu is and also warning on what is permitted by him to think about his wife. Did Bittuji need that explanation ? No. But the scene was needed for the "khulasa" to viewers on what we must think of Madhu as she had been reticent and been indulging in all kind of dubious actions...the reason me was so upset and commented on her actions like that. So RK was basically pacifying viewers about Madhu's actions.


Best scene of the Day
  • RK showing Radhaji her place...that she is long dead for him.
  • RK showing everyone that Madhu is now not only his wife, she is his nuturer as well, when he compared her to his loving mother of the past, that are now just his memories. He may have started all of it as an act...but somewhere down he too gets emotional about it ...soon to shoo it away by asking his wife to feed him.
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

I second Manonids review. That's what I felt.



Today entertainment and screenplay wise, I rate the episode with an A.

For the first time, they made a progressive episode on a Friday rather than a filler episode.

Emotional content of the episode was focussed on understanding the ramifications of an event that had changed personal equations forever. People are broken, confused and rattled, ready to become the viper snakes which can bite you to death out of its own fear. Fear looms large...fear of every sort ,,,only making it more and more vicious...ready to lash out venom. Only few people remained to stay calm absorbing the fear and guilt and confusion.

Padmini - Malik - trust - broken
Confusion against Madhu - by Bittuji
Fear against Madhu - Radhaji (RADUNCE - The leaky tap) and Dips Bhatia

Spitting Venom
  • Padmini against Shamsher
  • Radhaji against Madhu
  • Dips against Madhu and RK

Clearly Padmini has forgotten what Shamsher did for Padmini and her family in all that altruistic manner. She is leaving him, isolating him in his guilt when he needs family support. She is leaving him ...She couldn't live with his erratic judgment and actions.
Question to Padmini - Had you been married to Shamsher, would you have left your husband in that manner ? I doubt it Padmini ! I doubt it !
So selfish of you Padmini ...so damn selfish of you.

Radhaji has forgotten that she once trusted her son's life in Madhu's hands and Madhu did keep all her promises to her. And yet Radhaji has no gratitude now.

Dips Bhatia is so threatened for her life that she has become the rattled snake. She can just bite..A snake has never been attributed with any intelligence. It can gobble up its own eggs if hungry. Nature made it bad that way. I don't know why. May be for all others to see it an epitome of fear, confusion. A coiled snake capable of putting its tail in its mouth...


Good scenes
Padmini comprehending what Madhu must be facing in her Sasuraal. Her allusion to Durga Pooja ...nicely done. Ignominy of the Madhu the Wife nicely represented through this story.

RK explaining what Madhu is and also warning on what is permitted by him to think about his wife. Did Bittuji need that explanation ? No. But the scene was needed for the "khulasa" to viewers on what we must think of Madhu as she had been reticent and been indulging in all kind of dubious actions...the reason me was so upset and commented on her actions like that. So RK was basically pacifying viewers about Madhu's actions.


Best scene of the Day
  • RK showing Radhaji her place...that she is long dead for him.
  • RK showing everyone that Madhu is now not only his wife, she is his nuturer as well, when he compared her to his loving mother of the past, that are now just his memories. He may have started all of it as an act...but somewhere down he too gets emotional about it ...soon to shoo it away by asking his wife to feed him.


@ bold! 👏

A man tries to find his mother in his wife . RK doesn't show but deep down he is finding his missing mother in Madhu.

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