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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dear Members,

I see that Indra Bashing has been going on for a while, as i see from the posts Indra has been abused, put in poor light and has been called names etc etc.

However to let you know the truth,

None of the mentioned vices have been attributed to Indra in Vedas, according to vedas Indra is the supreme God even greater than Shiva and Vishnu who became popular over puranic and itihasic period. so by bashing him are we negating Vedas which are assumed to be the first scriptures from which all others emerged.

how can moderators be so tolerant over such an issue, if bashing of certain deity is not allowed, i would expect such standards to be upheld for others. all the puranas are against Indra as they come from later date. so is it justified to quote them to bash up Indra? based on these puranas.

i am not here to score any brownie points but as far as i am concerned, rules or standards prescribed are to be maintained for every deity in Hindusim.

i am no exception here as i also bashed up Indra and got away with it.

Best Regards
krishna




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Indra is shown as a negative person only in this show.The puranas always depicted Indra as a power hungry person and greedy person.He would make lot of mistakes but he would regret too but in yesterday's episode they didn't show him regretting even after getting caught by Kartikeya.Indra was never like this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But the whole serial is based on various Puranas, not the Vedas. One won't find Mahadev's marriages to Sati or Parvati, Kartikeya's or ma Durga's wars or Ganapati's stories in the Vedas. Once the story is being based on the Puranas, they are going to show what's there.

In this serial, they've vilified Indra excessively, but if they're going to defame the asuras, it's only fair that they do the same to Indra as well 😈 My biggest problem is w/ their whitewashing the activities and the setbacks of Vishnu, while showing an anti-Shiva story from the Vishnu Purana - Bhashmasura - as a part of this serial. In fact, they've diluted the greatness of Durga, Mahakali & Kartikeya, while magnifying Vishnu's, which is unforgivable for a Shiva centric serial.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Exactly my point is where do we draw the line, everything is offensive to somebody in some context and in some way.

i really don't understand why i cannot compare two puranas objectively. if such a yard stick is applied all the criticism which goes into Indra or for that manner asuras and other people
doesn't make make any sense.

so the point is if i have done something wrong in saying some things in some manner so have the other forum members who have done a grave injustice by talking against the very foundations of Hinduism which are Vedas, which glorify Indra in umpteen possible ways.

Its up to moderators what they want to do. but as far as i am concerned i agree that i have been carried away some times, but such references are to a puranic character rather than a supreme divine as worshiped by certain community.

i will be eagerly waiting for reply from moderators regarding this specific issue of Indra Bashing

Best regards
krishna


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Posted: 12 years ago
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see Indra is a complicated character,hes one of those characters that is most likely to be hated than be liked
what makes matters more difficult that many members also post scenarios based from folk stories or puranas,which do not exactly put Indra in a good light
eg:-the Diti incident and the Ahilya incident that make Indra Dev look like a villian
after all this it will be hard not to dislike Indradev or not say something bad about him

regarding the "bashing",if you think something is being done beyond an extent of your tolerance or which you find personally offending or insulting
youll are free to report it,we will look into the matter

we do not have any personal problem with anyone or thier opinion,let me make this clear,but the critism should be put in such a way as to not demean another community or thier sentiments

if you think something isnt right-tell us asap,and put your grievance forward,its everyone personal view of what they find offending and what they dont,something i find offending someone else may not find and vice-versa

there are too many members here,each having thier own opinion,we try to make a balance between all of them-trust me it isnt easy

also if you have any problem with how the moderators function,or how we make our decisions it will be better to contact us rather than making posts like these that demean our capabilities as moderators and doubt our decision making capacities

im saying this for the last and final time,you have any problem with any post or you think something unfair is being done please contact us
we arent going to eat anyone up if they pm us or contact us regarding anything in the forum

regards
shruti

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Posted: 12 years ago
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@kkr531,
To start with Indra,
This was posted by you at
"Whereas Indra never in his life did penance. simply he will run from pillar to post to keep his throne safe and will even entice mahadeva with manmatha etc. he such a low creature that he on number of occasions attacked defense less pregnant woman and did not even spare their fetuses and even slept with ahalya etc etc

i always wondered why Kartikeya was senapati of these cowardly bunch of idiots and morons and helped them in war."
Now please enlighten me who is bashing Indra, the most?
you are right why mods were tolerant about such post? we should have stopped it at that time only. I accept my mistake., will not allow such words, mentioned above in any posts.
In this post the concern over Indra's character shows a changed attitude towards him.
The members are commenting on his portrayal in the show. If he was portrayed like a Saint, then the comments would be according to that.
Regarding your next pt, comparison,
DKDMshows various stories of Lord Shiva along with characters linked with him. From the time this show has started at any pt, it is not mentioned this show promots Shaivism. So your posts many time leading to comparism between Shivite & Vaishnavites is absolutely unnecessary. Even in your last thread about comparisn of 2 versions, you have mentioned the same,
Originally posted by kkr531

as you can see when you compare the two versions

1) Vaishnava purana is completely biased and attributes all kinds of vices to asuras

2) whereas Shaiva purana is more balanced and less biased

i really wonder even in those times world was full of fanatics

it re-affirms my belief that vaishnavas are kind of arrogant and fanatic

regards
krishna
This was your original post. Which shows what this thread was leading to. In past such posts were allowed for healthy disscussions but every time leading them to pointing the difference between 2 sects will not be allowed.
Mods acts on Reports & PMs by members.
If you still have any doubt, feel free to contact me or shruti.




Edited by mnx12 - 12 years ago

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