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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: ummesulaiman

I only wish after Raghav had told the truth as to why he had said no...that Sia would have told him her reason instead of keeping it to herself...i.e...they should admit that they are putting each other first and get over with it.
I think that they're both insecure. Sia wants Raghav to take the first step, to tell her that he still loves her, to tell her that he wants her to stay and marry him. Note that Sia still tries to push other people into making the decisions for her. It's an old habit -- one that'll take time for her to get rid of.
But this time Raghav is the one who needs to hear her confess, to hear her say that she'd like to marry him because she loves him. Otherwise he'll never be certain whether she did it because wanted to, or if he made her want to. Whatever she does, it's important to him that it's solely her choice.
What the? A female Viraj..😲...Why? 🤔 {smacks head against wall} For a minute I thought it was a new character introduced...but after reading your post and the TOI article...I realized it's a cross-over...still..It seemed pointless. The TOI article spoke of chemistry and all...Maybe it's just me...but I didn't find any chemistry between Viraj and the "Princess"...I've always said this...I just don't find evil "sexy"...🤔
There are plenty who do 😆 Plenty like it when the female is man-handled. Personally, I'd no words for the scene between Amrit and V. The focus was on the sexual tension and, in context, the scene had no connection to SB?. I doubt that he needed an advice like "take Raghav's family hostage" from a female princess/murderer. It was a no brainer. I don't like these cross-overs for obvious reasons -- there's no logic, no point, except experimenting with the actors' chemistry. I can't believe they wasted ten minutes on showing V running around, hiding, foreplaying with some stranger just because she shared his evil mind set.
And while he was rubbing his mouth against Amrit's cheek, he went "oh, I love my jaan and I just want her back!"

Edited by Elysia - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -vandy-

touching...getting attracted...its a part of the process...but all in all intimate..like foreplay or the actual sexual process is the thing which will bother her coz she has bad memories related to it

if atall the writers r thinking on these lines...i feel its a good way to move on...
see sia loves raghav she will feel attracted...she will give in to certain things like touching and things like that...which in future will give raghav the confidence and signal to move ahead in their relaationship...
but the problem will arise the moment he decides to move a step further and finds sia moving back...
thats where raghav's understanding of sia...trying to ease her off that fear and make her aware that he will never harm her in this process will come into play...
think abt it ely...its a beautiful way to deal with this thing...and i feel the writers have hit the right cord...
its not that the marrg or relationship is going to be forced on raghavii...the understanding is going to come from within sia...which will eventually make her feel free with raghav...
but...its the haunted past which will create probs

You make a valid point, Di. It makes sense. Provided that they do show her struggle when things have to be taken to the next level.
Edited by Elysia - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: nami2811

Good analysis post as usual. I realize a few things wen i read ur post. First i agree that d editing is not good but its neither bad as well. I agree d scenes were rushed up n i hope d creatives r reading these posts n fotr god sake stop/postpone d leap! I liked d intensity of raghav sia n fantastically portrayed by both Sriti n HC. Komal being Komal requested Raghav to stop Sia from leaving n d way he silently approached her was nice. All of us know dat he would jus say take care become a teacher n stuff but he wouldn't dare to stop her. If he would den we're in for a surprise. I also loved d expressions of Sia wen Raghav comes to wish her goodbye. It was as if she wanted very badly to stay back only if he once would ask her to.
About d V n Amrit confrontation frankly i jus dozed off. its nt dat m nt interested bt d scene din grab my attention n it was unnecessary! Since wen did Viraj d "greatest " "strongest " dobrial needed a lady s suggestions? Weird right?

It was totally weird. Plus the advice she gave him wasn't exactly something that he couldn't have thought of himself. In fact, it would've been the first thing on his mind when he got out of that hospital. To reach the Singhs, destroy them, take back Jahnvi.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I remember to update, halleluiah!

1. I loved the RaghavI scenes...but I hate, hate, hate this rush of romance. Yes, yes, I know there's a leap et al and they need to work asap, but I hate the fact that Jhanvi's own romantic streak (which was at odds with her present character) wasn't given the buildup it deserved. She was a dreamer to begin with, and though her Sia avatar seemed to be afraid of even the mere suggestion of attraction, the dregs of that pre-V personality were in there somewhere, and to have her just jump out and become this huge romantic was a blast out of nowhere. The ice-cream scene made sense to me because it was their own personal goodbye to each other...but the drapes scene - while beautiful - seemed a little sudden.

2. The joda scene I think was nice coz it toyed with J's own feelings about marriage and love, and whether they had changed. The fake marriage in some senses seemed to steer her slowly towards the fact that her thoughts on marriage, while justified, could be just an aspect that she was unfortunately exposed, rather than the real deal with all marriages. So when Raghav suggests marriage, she freezes for a moment, but is able to take it a little better.

3. I loved T and K trying to stop S, but in the light of yesterday's episode this one action seems pretty futile. I just wished they'd angled the prank differently, and this scene would have looked a lot better in connection with it.

4. Viraaj/Amrit scene? Pointless, pointless, absolutely pointless. They're two negative characters, they match each other in their whiny emo OMG-I'm-so-mizunderstoood! attitude but sorry -- the penultimate scene where they give each other suggestions on how to tackle each others' enemies was so silly I could do nothing but crack up on my seat. His original plan was to trap the Singhs and force Sia, lol...that much was clear from his Ghajini sketches. Are you trying to tell me that Viraaj is so dumb that he moves out of that hospital without a plan ready, and that house arrest for the Singhs wouldn't even occur to him? 😆 The flirting and chemistry was all well and good, but eventually the scene had very little to it besides that.
Edited by BizzyLizzy - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Its good to be back and reading your updates and commenting on that, seriously these days I feel the creatives are dragging the show and just stretching it like hell, feeling bored watching it. But yes the Ragahav Sia scenes were worth watching. Well you called that intimacy, but i disagree with you on that, I don't think the scenes shown were intimate, she is just struggling with her feelings which she don't want to accept
But seriously just loved reading ur update after a looonnng time.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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one thing i completely understand is why RAGHAV said no 4 d marriage..
at 1st nd d main point was not 2 prssurize sia or make her feel guilty...he knows very well, she got her divorce just yesterday, nd suddenly 2day if she gives a yes also, it is obvious it wont b 4m her heart..RAGHAV is logical here, but still it is his hard luck dat he doesnt kno sia actually wanted 2 say yes..lol
nd secondly, i m so sure RAGHAV now has becum habituated 2 pain, he himself mentioned, nd thus he fears, if he wud say a yes also one more rejection 4m her, it is really an aww dat a selfless man like him sumhw ends up at getting a rejction everytime, so 4m his POV dere is no question of him thinking dat SIA might say a yes, his being sure of her NO is very much appropriate acc 2 d situation he is in at present.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Soaps1


I have a question when Sia asked Raghav why you refused the rishta he said because he did not want to force it onto her ... he was speaking the truth why did Sia then say yehi waja hey ya koi aur baat? Are you hiding something? 😕




I am going to jump in and try to answer this one.. You know how Raghav told Komal and Tashu that he said no because he knows Sia doesn't love him? I think Sia knows that he thinks that too.. I think Sia wanted him to tell her that so that she had a chance to explain to him all that she was feeling.
If you look back, she has always tried to get Raghav to haq jamao on her the way she does on him. She wants him to demand answers from her so that she can lay her heart open to him. This, I think, was an attempt on her part again. If Raghav had said, "Kyunki main jaantha hoon ki aap mujhse pyar nahi karthi.." Maybe.. Maybe we could have had Sia convince him that that was not true and acknowledge her own feelings too..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ana dear ... pehle to 🤗

Yaar yesterdays episode left me at a few places and then at a few!!! Kitne cryptic codes decipher karen Raghavi kee beech!!!!.. Scenes itne cryptic hain ki i have to resort to Khaayali pulav !!!

1) Raghav can't look at Sia

You put it wonderfully here Ana...Bittersweet it was!!!!... What made it more endearing to me was Siya wanted to know why Raghav said No when he could have said yes... She knows he loves her dearly and yet he's selfless not wanting to hold her back and rather have her live her life on her terms... but somewhere this selflessness makes her uneasy... as she sees him in pain... she would rather have him hold her back "Hakk se"... Also that when he says he knows her well.. she may have thought at certain point ..."Yes you do... but then why cant you see I wanna stay back... with you... but the fears haunt me... only if you would not let me go and rather say Stay!!!... that would have made this a bit more easy"

2) Sia asks if she can take his helmet with her [with right]

When she asked for the helmet initially and at being denied she said she would take it Hakk se... I guess she was trying to drill something into Raghav's head... the helmet was a part of her memories with him...an integral one too... but then they way she asked for it with full rights was what struck me... Ab yeh Raghav ko kab strike hoga ... If just for once he could be demanding!!! ... loved the way this scene was written... in a span of just few seconds we saw a display of varied emotions... and each struck the chord ...be it the request...the anger at being denied ur request... then the retort... humor... determination and then the helplessness.

3) "Aaj pehle aap" and the shared ice cream

Nicely shot scene and well written too... When she said "sab kuch akele aap hi karenge"... I felt she meant she so wants him to think of himself for once...And when he replied about her wanting to share the icecream I was like... Raghav!!! she wants to share a life with you and tum ab bhi Icecream pe atke ho!!! ... irony i say... they shared the icecream so well imagine how they would share their lives together.. and Siya's Pehle aap and then feeding him at a certain point conveyed to a huge extent that there was someone who cared for him kyunki Raghav to apna khayal rakhne se raha... and it was by no means just a friendly gesture... Ab pyaar jo dosti ke beech aa chuka hai

4) The Window Scene

Well i must admit the tech team did a great job here with the framing and cinematography ... especially the one where we saw Siya and Raghav through the curtains ...the glossy feel made them so angelic.. ... but then I feel this scene was not played at the right time... Siya still needs time to get over the scars of a physical abuse to get so close to someone... even if its Raghav and she wishes to share her life with him from the bottom of her heart. I felt this could have come a bit at a later stage. She still is on a healing process... though I don't get it why the creatives are avoiding her healing journey altogether... Yes the leap is in offing... but I'm slightly put off with the way her journey towards getting her life back in all senses is being ignored big time.

5) Raghav helps Sia pack and tells her that red looks good on her

When Raghav held on to the shaadi ka joda he knew what could have been his once and what now may never be his...so muh so that he even wanted to put it back...as if to hold on to it...never letting it go... the inner turmoil was so beautifully yet subtly depicted by HC 👏... loved the way he felt the joda ...as if for the last time. And then when he went on stuttering and giving reasons as to why she should keep the joda.. Somebody surely needs a Jhappi there

6) Komal asks Raghav to ask Sia to stay

I love Komal... she's the one who has had more belief in Raghav's love and that he shall have his love reciprocated... She's been for him right from the beginning... She so dearly wants her devar to be happy with the love of his life that she even went out of her character ay before when she and taashu hatched the plan.. resulting into the hug (ok i strayed .. sab raghavi ki galati hai!!! back to what i was saying)... It was but natural for he rto ask Raghav to ask Sia to stay for she knew he needs coaxing.. if she want him to even utter a word in this matter.

7) The cross-over b/w SB? and Amrit Manthan

I think this crossover was not needed... Viraj has a sharp mind and is an ace at plotting against the ones who irk him... For the one who has prepared the yamaraj list for the Singh family' I doubt he needed Princess Amrit to tell him that he should kidnap the entire Singh family.. Viraj's mind works faster than anyone when it comes to his junoon as he says... So i felt it was out of his character to actually ponder over the idea pointed out by Amrit.

As for the police... whats up with them???... how can you not alert the people who are stake when u have a prisoner with a torturous rather murderous motive... on loose!!!... a major blooper there.

And though we had some really good scenes which were wonderfully shot... I still feel...
We have a great tech team at SB as I said yesterday... even a great creative team who come up with wonderfully written scenes... but they still need to work on doing their jobs in sync... proper amalgamation of tech n creative team will give us what we are waitting for ... episodes that we enjoy to the hilt and that strikes the chord entirely... not just a few scenes here and there.

As for the cast 👏... is all i can say... they leave me with dearth of appropriate words and i end up with the emoticons!!!
Edited by The_Inner_Voice - 12 years ago

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