10/9 Dragon Club: Suneeta ki Sach?

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Episode Analysis

I am going to divide my take into two parts today. The first is going to be mathematical and deductive and the second is going to be my thoughts on the symbolism in the episode. So what the CVs have given us at this point is a date to go by, August 10. We know for sure that two things happened on this day and they are:

1.Aman's driver returns Aarti's clothes
2. Suneeta leaves the message about Prashant

We know for sure that the first is not what made Yash angry because he has refuted it himself. The second we are still not sure, because they very conspicuously showed only Suneeta's POV and we have no idea if Yash heard the message or not. He might have gotten angry about something else and left even before he got a chance to hear it. Anyway, I am sure Prashant's truth is coming out one way or another now with his entry, Dubey's crumbling and Aarti's own conscience but I am not sure if Yash heard that message or found out another way.

What we know from Yash's own clippings is that whatever the incident is happened at night. "uss raat," "vo haadsa," "mann ka paap" and the fact that it was raining are mentioned by him repeatedly. Now I think we are making the mistake of assuming that he is talking about the same thing here. Perhaps he is talking about a number of things that happened to him over the course of the trip. Maybe it was a series of things that he felt for her. I don't think it is Aarti "seducing" him or being in love with him because the way he talked to his brothers comes to mind, "could you bear to hear it?" he asks them. It is only then that I think we can actually gain any knowledge because he is telling them directly. "Mumbai mein, uss raat, Aartiji ne..." Then again, this might just be the start of his story...just as meeting Aman was the start of Aarti's, and not the actual reason itself so how much can we know from his clipped phrases?

All we do have is the list of flashbacks and the information we know:

The last thing we saw in Mumbai was the koli dance, and it marked a significant change in Yash, so I am going to take that as a base point in this chronology

They were there for four days after that so in those four days the following things happened:

Yash taught Aarti how to do that dance step and Arpita's picture broke (I am guessing this was the same day as the koli festival)
They met Aman, played table tennis with him (this must have happened before the koli festival, or just after it)

By the next day she had reframed the broken picture
This must have also been the day she went to the temple because she told Gayatri she went soon after the koli festival, having fulfilled her mission to bring back the "old Yash" - if it was the same day then this was the night she came home late and Yash came in the morning,

Ansh fell off the swing and they took him to the hospital

Dahi handi (had to be after the koli festival, based on Yash's mood and behaviour)
The fire with Arpita's things burning down (I am guessing this happened the day before they left because Aarti felt like she had to say sorry for it even in Bhopal. Maybe she didn't get the

As for the Essel World flashback, I think that fits around the same time as when they met Aman, that is, soon after the koli dance because Suneetha had to have at least 2 days to realise Aarti was not at fault and then to call and leave that message. Also, Aarti mentioned that they were there for two more days and Yash didn't say anything. In the end it all comes down to what happened on the night of August 9th, or before they left on August 10th that we do not know about. Did Yash hear the message? Did he read Aarti's diary? We can't really say, but I suppose we will find out soon. I still maintain that Aarti fainting is a loop closure for the time she fainted after seeing Prashant before the wedding. That time Yash had rescued her and brought her back to the resort, to marry him. I think here also he will bring her back to be his wife, only this time, knowing the whole truth about her past.

Now to the second and more fun part of my take. I am going to ignore the fact that they left the kids unattended in an amusement park and Ansh just went off by himself to buy water (always with the independence, that kid!) while his parents were on the ride. The shift I saw in the Yash-Aarti dynamic was incredible! All this time, Aarti has had the upper hand in the relationship because she was the one giving her all to it while Yash was stuck in Arpita-land and mostly distant and needing guidance to join the living. We saw Aarti prodding and encouraging him, often through teasing, all this time and finally we saw Yash abandon his half-life to embrace his present with Aarti and the kids.

In this Essel World flashback, we see how the tables have turned! Before Yash came out of his Arpita-stupour, he was the one bringing more baggage into this relationship with Aarti, the one who was partially still in his previous relationship and so Aarti had the upper hand in this relationship and in bringing him towards fulfilling it in a complete sense. Now however, Yash has allowed Arpita to become a beautiful memory and phase of his life, and embraced this new life with Aarti and his kids as his immediate reality. He may not love Aarti yet, in the traditional sense, but she is definitely a vital part of his world and he loves that family that they make together; did you see the way he said that Ansh was his son? Aarti is also his friend, which was apparent today when he cheekily told her that she was holding his hand. I don't think he meant it to make her let go, as she interpreted, but rather to poke fun at her for being scared, which was clear by the fact that he continued the subject and insisted on going on a roller coaster with her. Wasn't this just for the kids, Yash? This marriage, this Mumbai trip, this outing to Essel World? Then why do you feel like having fun all of a sudden, along with the kids? Yash now has the upper hand in the relationship because he is the freer of the two, considering he has revealed all his baggage AND dealt with it. Aarti, while she may have dealt with her baggage (which I don't really believe she did, she just denied it) has not revealed it and so she becomes the vulnerable one in need of guidance in the equation. I just loved that shift they brought about!

I thought it was so significant that the issue of "bharosa" came up just when Prashant is about to make his re-entry. Yash asks Aarti if he trusts her and she tells him she does, and then later iterates that nothing could happen to her, nor could she be afraid as long as Yash was by her side. The faith that Prashant left non-existent, Yash managed to build in Aarti once again, so much so that she does not even notice until he does that Ansh is gone. It is not just her faith in him, but in humanity in general that allows her not to panic at this moment and shows Yash even more concerned than she is about Ansh being out of their sight. It was a beautiful piece of storytelling that the next moment, Aarti saw something that scared the living daylights out of her, even though, and in fact because Yash was by her side. It was the one thing for which Yash would go against Aarti and the one thing Aarti was hiding from Yash: the truth.

Even though Suneeta's character was brief, I thought the angle they gave her was fascinating. She was the one who introduced Aarti and Prashant, was probably the friend who teased her about him and pushed her further and further into his way and made her own romantic dreams around the romance of Prashant and Aarti. Love marriage is still rare enough in India that people who do it are considered very romantic and exotic, and the thought that a love marriage should fail was probably really foreign to Suneeta. And her characterisation itself justified why Aarti probably didn't invite her to the PV. Aarti was ashamed of herself at that time for getting married again when Prashant was alive, and considered it a defeat, a compromise for Ansh's happiness. She probably was too shamefaced to invite a friend like Suneeta when she had told her that she would love Prashant forever, and wait for him, only to be coerced into this second marriage for the happiness of her son. Probably seeing Suneeta again unexpectedly brought back all those old feelings that Aarti didn't want to deal with during her Mumbai dream, when Yash was just starting to notice her. She didn't want to remember that she was a "failure" in her first marriage, that she had "betrayed" her first love. Most of all, she didn't want to think about how she had betrayed her current love too...and as the flashback suggests, as soon as they left she forgot all about it. But I don't think Yash did.

My theory is that the issue is the divorce truth (because all the dialogues point in that direction), but that Yash didn't find out through Suneeta's message. He was very suspicious when Aarti was talking to Suneeta at the way she was acting, which I think is interesting in the context of the fact that they showed her with Aman. He saw how free she is with her friends, and how she behaved with Suneeta. She didn't try too hard to hide the fact that she never wanted to see her again, not just that she was trying to avoid the situation in the present moment. I don't know why, but I have this feeling that Yash met Prashant and Prashant thought he could make Yash mad just by saying that Aarti was still in love with him, but got an extra bonus when he found out that Yash hadn't even known they were divorced. I think his and Nida's break-up is a lie to melt Papa D and make him see the possibility of an Aarti-Prashant patch-up. But only time will tell.

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Like Maham pointed out Yash may have learned about Aarti being a divorcee at the same time when he was staring to accept that he likes being around and that he doesn't need to go to Arpitaland anymore...I can see Yash sitting there replaying and the moments he's spend w/ Aarti and witouth realizing it he's smiling just thinking abt her just then the phone rings and it's Suneeta looking for Aarti but since she isn't there she talks with Yash and during their convo she let the P lie out by mistake thinking that he knows and all his hopes and dreams come crashing down sending him in a self destructive mode


THE LOVE YOU CAN'T HAVE LASTS LONGEST,
FEELS THE STRONGEST & HURTS THE MOST.


This is our Yashbabu's sentiment right now, he feels that he has no right to love Aarti but his heart and his mind are not listening to reason despite her breaking his trust he can't stop thinking WHAT IF 😔

The only way he's gonna get his answers to his questions is when he & Aarti have a most needed confrontation and he learns about her past.



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It was a great episode where the reason behind Yash's anger was revealed...DIVORCE LIE



The FB from Fiday's episode continues with AarYa going a roller coaster ride...Yash makes aarti sit down with Yed Dil hai playing in the BG 🤢😳...While they are on the ride, Aarti holds on to Yash's hand...They come off the ride and Ansh asks Aarti if she was scared and she replied no, cause Yash was with her and the look Yash give her ☺️☺️...It's a must see 😳😳😳


Ansh wonders off to go drink some water and comes across his mom's friend Suneeta who asks him about Aarti...He tells her that he came here with his mom and dad, Suneeta wonders if Aarti made up w/ P leaving Ansh 😕 who replies that his parents love him very much now Suneeta is the one that's confused, asking herself if P has finally accepted Ansh...so she asks Ansh to take her to his dad which he does.


Meanwhile Aarti takes PayPal to the ladies room when Ansh comes w/ Suneeta to meet Yash who's watching for his little family come back from their errands...Ansh tells Suneeta here's my dad and she wants to know why is calling a stranger dad...Seriously that's not how he ask a kids that kind of question *SMH*...I take it that Aarti's friend doesn't know abt her Punar Vivaah 😲


Aarti comes in the nick of time and tells Suneeta that Yash is her husband...the latter goes on to tell her that they got remarried, so she asks Aarti who is really tense and nervous for her number but it is Yash who gave her his card, and tells her that she could call anytime she wanted...🤔 wrong idea Yashbabu...AarYa's family of five leave. End of FB


in the present Shobhaji says that's means Suneeta didn't say anything to Yash...Aarti who is frantically trying to get a hold of her friend Suneeta, gets a call and it's Suneeta asking Aarti why so many calls? Aarti who is nervous couldn't bring herself to talk so Shobhaji takes the phone from her and bluntly asks if she told Yash about Aarti's divorce because they had hidden it...Which was a terrible and stupid mistake if you ask me 😡😡😡

Suneeta replies that the day she met Aarti in EW she was rude to her cause she didn't understand how she could remarried forgetting her 1st love (seriously u have to be in her shoes to understand why she did what she did) but then her husband made her realize that Aarti wasn't at fault P was for leaving her (thank goodness, your hubby is an open minded guy) so Aarti is right to remarried 👏👏


She goes on to narrate that on the 10th of August she called to say she's sorry but none answered the phone so she left a message on the answering machine...the message was "that she was sorry for her sarcasm and that she had every right to remarried giving the fact that P left her for another and that he doesn't deserve her"...IMO Yash came home and saw the machine light blinking thinking that one of the family tried to get in touch with them for something and listened to the message...Aww the shocked and hurt he must had felt hearing that message 😭



Aarti and Shobha realizes that the reason behind Yash's anger is that he found out abt the lie they told...Aarti is blasting Shobha telling her that they should not had hidden the truth from Yash...And that the latter despite knowing the truth didn't say anything to anyone, Aarti tells Shobha that she's going to meet Yash and tell him everything...Once again Shobha tries to stop her but she determined and won't let her stop her...Well it was about time you listened to your instincts Aarti 👏👏👏


Shobhaji calls Dubeyji who is with P and just gave him money 😡...She tells him everything in mute as he's about to hang up the phone P says thank you dad and Shobha hears...She is mad...Dubey comes and Shobhaji blasts him for helping P...The idiot says that he's his son and that he's in trouble so it's his duty to help him, he even says that the girl left P...Dubeyji tries to make Shobhaji see his side of but she says that Aarti is her only child 😃...Just then the most BS came out of his mouth when he says that if Yashbabu doesn't accept Aarti where will she go? leaving Shobaji SHOCKED 😲


Dubeyji is one weakling...how the heck could he be so naive and stupid i felt like slapping the BLEEP out of him and that comment he made abt Aarti going back to that piece of crap P...I know my girl would rather crawl over broken glasses than go back to that 😡



Precap: OMG Aarti faints after thank Ganesh for letting her know the reason 😲😲😲





EDIT: Holy BLEEP 40+ pages already 🤢

Okay Jyo and Deeps ITA with you guys AarYa must have ate the goodies (Sry for the term but my 7 yrs old niece is here next to me reading what i'm writing) 😆 the night before then Yash heard the message the next AM.


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Nice title!

I hope something comes out today! dragged tooo much!
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I m sure CVs r hving popcorn entertainment keeping the viewers forever confused with the whole mystry 😆...Just when after the episode we thought ok Prashant truth is the reason of Yash's anger , CVs throws another bomb with Aarti fainting in precap which means she could b preggy as per SBS spoiler 😲😲...So again a new equation Prashant truth+Pregnent Aarti 😲😲...Kab ,kahan ,kyun 😲😆😆... I really hope all our queries r answereed by end of this week and we see a Aarti-Yash reunion with Ganesh Visarjan in the end .. 😃...
I m sure CVs r dragging it for 2 main reasons .. one is they r buying time till GC's JDJ is over in 3 weeks for the AarYa love track to start fully and two is they feel mystry track is working for trps mayb .. Wednesday will clear all doubts .. if trps fall with over the top dragging of this track , then CVs will hv to pack up this track asap and if trps rise , then expect more such mystries ..so all depends on Trp baba again 😆😆 ...
Lets solve this new Equation ..Prashant Truth + Aarti's Pregnency =Yash's Anger😛😆
I think the main reason for Yash's anger is Prashant truth only 😊.. But Yash-Aarti got intimate last night in Mumbai and did it and here I m assuming Aarti was not in her senses and this part of the flashback only Yash remembers which might come out once both Aarti and Yash confront each other 😳..
Yash keeps saying "Uss raat barsaat mein" , "hadsa", "mann ka paap" and "dhoka" .. all will fall into place if we combine Prashant+Pregnency twist 😛..."Uss raat barsaat mein" Yash and Aarti consummated their marriage (How it happenbed ..why Aarti dont remember...only Yash can tell it...his part of flashback is remaining) 😳...Next morning Yash might hv been a confused soul till he hears this answering machine in which Aarti's friend Sunita spoke about Prashant truth which is Aarti's dhoka to Yash and so once he learns about this dhoka , for him their last night consummation becomes nothing less than a hadsa because Yash feels its Aarti's mann ka paap as on one hand she almost seduced me and I end up doing it with her and on other hand she is hiding such a big truth from me ...He even breaks Arpita's photos because he feels he betrayed Arpita for Aarti but in return Aarti betrayed me with this big lie ...
Yash would not hv mind this consummation with Aarti and mayb he would hv moved on with Aarti too , but the Prashant truth did the last minute damage ... Now after hearing Aarti's pregnency , I guess Yash will accept her and that point of time we might see Prashant's return in picture as Mr.Dubey seems to hv suddenly changed his loyalty towards his own son
My only point is if Aarti and Yash did it in Mumbai and if Aarti is preggy because of that , then why cant Aarti remember this at all .. I hope CVs hv a proper justification for it if at all Aarti faints because she is preggy 😕...Rest I feel Pregnency+Prashant truth does solve all the code words of Yash from "Uss raat baarish mein" to "dhoka" to "hadsa" to Mann ka paap" to breaking Arpita photos 😆😛
Sunita in her call , actually told all about Prashant and how she left Aarti for another girl ,. so in case Yash heard it all , he knows what kind of guy Prashant is ..🤔... He is well aware of the sufferings Aarti went through in her first marriage ...
So is Yash feeling bad or guilty in a way that Aarti went through a lot in her first marriage and what is she getting in her second marriage here ??He mayb thinking I m 24/7 obsessed with Arpita and she never expects anything from me ...So he gets all emotional mayb and in a moment of weakness consummates with Aarti just to make her feel special 😕...Aarti does not stop him either 😳...Next morning he feels pissed off because Aarti dint stop him .. so he is referring to her mann ka paap ..But this again brings me back to the question of how Aarti does not remember it 😕...
Another point is the night when Aarti comes home at 3am from Aman's place and goes to sleep and then Yash comes home almost in the morning because he too was stuck up in rain , both were tired ..So did something happen between both that half-night-half-morning which Yash remembers but Aarti does not ?? 😕😕
Last but not the least whatever mayb the reason , it should justify why Aarti could not recollect it all ...Today Prashant truth which was unknown to Aarti was very well justified since Aarti was unaware of Sunita's call but if she and Yash consummated their marriage , then one needs a strong reason why Aarti could not remember this 😊
On a side note , Getting intimate with your husband is common .. not a sin .. mayb she dint guess its the reason of his anger especially when he keeps saying she gave me dhoka .. sleeping with him cannot b a dhoka na 😕.. but haan if we combine this with Prashant truth then it does become a big dhoka ...
Mr.Dubey a selfish father or a realistic father ?? 🤔
I m not throwing brickbats on Mr.Dubey simply because from a father's POV , I feel his selfishness towards his own son who might b homeless and jobless right now is justified ...There are very rare people like Shobha in this world whereas there r majority of Dubeys in real world ..so well ...
Mr.Dubey sees Aarti might b well settled in life and today or tomorrow things might even sort out between Yash-Aarti and then she will go back to her family again but whats the future of his useless son if I dont give him money ... He is just being a typical father who feels the need to help his own blood in times of crisis ...Yes we can call him selfish because we hv someone like Shobha who sticks to her principles in a perfect way but to b honest in real life tell me how many parents will actually turn their back against their kids in times of crisis ?? ..Even a Criminal's parents will want to protect their kid na 😕.. So Dubey does represent the harsh reality in a way whereas Shobha here is a larger than life character which is too good to b true in reality I feel 😊
Having said that , if Dubey is dreaming of Prashant and Aarti reunion or something in case he is taking for granted that Yash will never accept Aarti , then I m sure he will b getting chappals not just from viewers but from Shobha too 😡😆😆...
Essel world ride was good fun moment between AarYa and mayb symbollic too 😳
Even though the ride of Aarti and Yash was a small one but I found it so symbolic the way Aarti was scared to confront her worst fears by sitting in the ride but Yash made her sit in it by saying trust me ,I will not let u fall and then both move in motion in that ride which sort of represented the circle of life 😳😳...
Yash made Aarti comfortable in that ride and Aarti overcomes her worst fears by sitting on that ride with Yash just because Yash asked her to trust him 😳...All this explains why Yash is so deeply hurt after learning about Prashant truth 😭...Yash wanted Aarti to overcome all her worst fears by simply trusting him but Aarti dint trust him enough to share her biggest divorcee secret with him and so its obvious he feels betrayed ...
Overall the episode was not confusing since the Prashant truth clearly came out but the precap again leaves it all in confusion with Aarti's fainting ..so well the mystry continues 😆...Overall I liked the episode if I forget the confusing precap 😆...
Edited by jyoti06 - 12 years ago
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Something related to Ganesh visargan:-

Worshipping Ganesha means...its about saying thank you to the pancha tattva...The Earth, Fire, Water, Air and Ether. The visarjan ceremony represents the concept of Samasara, or the cycle of birth death and rebirth. This fate befalls all living creatures including humans as life is fleeting and once the soul departs from our body, the corporeal form then perishes and returns to the natural elements, only to be reconstituted in another body in the subsequent life cycle. Similarly, once the presiding deity departs from the murti, its physical manifestation is then returned to nature, only to be reanimated the following year. The imbibed spirit however remains in the hearts of the devotees and enriches their lives.

For me Yash is thinking something like...

"It hurts to breathe. It hurts to live. I hate her, yet I do not think I can exist without her."😉
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Ta da da ra! For the 173 pages of confusion on the thread

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Today's episode started with P and ended with P. So compliments to the letter P.


P for public display of affection

That was such a lovely scene in the flashback, the public display of affection. Arti being scared latches onto Yash's shoulder. Yash also states to trust him. She does trust him but she does not trust the machinery. It is as if she is saying she would trust him as long as he is beside her but she is afraid that all the machination of the world which she cannot trust might and will turn against her. The world of happiness she has created with her husband and the 3 children. A perfect family though it was conceived unconventionally. This trust she has with Yash takes her through the Essel world ride. Can this trust be of strength that it does not become breakable? There is no answer to this question for the foreseeable future for the moment

P is for proprietary.

Ansh runs away and meets Arti's best friend Suneeta. She informs Ansh that she knows Arti and Ansh since his birth tough she may have not met him recently. She feels proprietary with Ansh by extension and tells him all about his biological father Prashant. Ansh little mind thinks this Suneeta talks too much too soon, it seems by the expression he gave here.

Also where is the babysitter Bhawri! It was a bit tawdry by the CV's to let that happen. Though Ansh running away to get water could even be done while Bawri is babysitting, I feel.

The real tug of war of proprietary comes when Ansh finds his father Yash. Suneeta misconstrues his back as Prashant and calls to him. She does not have a filter it seems and just goes about stating one fact over another.

There was real pride in Yash's face when he uttered that Ansh is his son.

At this point in time I'm starting to think Arti has so many best friends, Mansi, Aman and now Suneeta. I feel there is more but anyhow Arti must be popular! Aman even kind of stated that in past episode that she is very outgoing and goes after what she wants. She still is like that.


P for pressure

There was so much pressure on her head. She has been trying to practically trying to husk a coconut palm of a nut to break it to get to the sweet water. Sweet water her implies the truth of why Yash is angry and not anything to do with consummation!

So she calls Suneeta and tries to figure out if she had called Yash's farm house. It is found she has done so and left a profound message that seems to be like a projectile that has pounded into Arti's heart. She panics and runs off to confront Yash! She is under so much pressure that she does not consider that Yash might not be at home or that he might not want to listen to her at that point of time.


P for passing out

She meets Ganpati Bappa on the road makes a prayer and faints! I hope her problems will get cleansed just as the Ganpati Bappa is immersed in a body of water.

P for Prashanth in profile

Okay it was not the profile but the back. Seems he has run out of money and needs if from his dear old Pa. But then Shobha hearing his voice on phone arises for the propensity for her to accuse Mr.Dubey of trying to pay his way into Prashant's heart! I have a feeling that Prashant will create more issues other than the obvious divorce issue when it comes out!

P is for Percolation

Third meaning of:

percolation

noun

3. Geology . the slow movement of water through the pores in soil or permeable rock.

I'm talking about rain water seeping into the ground to find it's residing place under the ground.

I hope like percolation that Yash's heart somehow melt s towards Arti in coming episodes and let the truth of her emotions reside in the deepest places of his heart never to be dislodged. I know that there is more to show in episodes to come in regards to this love track ,but this is just my sincere wish, for now!


Edited by AngelDark - 12 years ago
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aaahhh fresh air... come to mee...
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Nice title! Thanks a lot samana

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