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The content of this post may be viewed as mature but I guarantee you it is not as i have gone totally light on the literature. Please read no further if you are embarrased. Please read further at your own risk😆

So I left India a long time ago. When I left there were no cable TV networks. It was good old Doordarshan with their good old family dramas. Hum Log, Buniyaad, Udaan, Karamchaand and then the last show I think I watched was the comedy Dekh Bhai Dekh. Each show was a family drama and each show had CLASS. Each show had NO SUHAGRAAT or bedroom scenes and that is probably why they had class. Ironic. They were family dramas that left intimacy to the privacy of couples and focussed on the story and this is why I think I fell in love with NBT because it followed the same formula. When I came back in 2004 it was the western network star plus bold and beautiful, Santa Barbara and before you knew it romance and intimate scenes were the essence of the show along with unrealistic and un-relatable family drama.

The Suhaag Raat in Indian TV

I think this is the most hilarious thing that any Indian director can hope to visualize using Indian TV actors on Indian small screen for a family audience staying within conservative Indian social parameters. If you are going to use a western formula to drive up the entertainment then you need to do so with sophistication and class. If you cannot then don't even try because it appears clumsy. No matter how intense the love-making scenes are in western shows it works because the actors do not bring their inhibitions to the set and do not compensate for their discomfort by going clinical. I have yet to run into a single Indian TV serial actor or actress who can do that. So then why bother right? Leave to the bedroom what belongs in the privacy of the bedroom right?

I have only seen a couple of the SR scenes on Indian soaps and the only reactions were either cringe worthy, comical or Are you Kidding me?

Gopi Bahu looked like she is going to faint if the dude holds her hand. I heard BALH was extremely clumsy I can imagine why. Overweight dude 'horizontally tangoing' with close to overweight bride with the master blaster Deepak Sharma as their director. The Pratigya one was THE MOST HILARIOUS. They dressed the place up like the girl was being offered like human sacrifice in a Harrison Ford movie. There were smoke, flowers, music, weird costumes and she was moaning and groaning before anything had even started. I laughed and laughed. Which first timer moans and groans? Sometimes, even the veterans don't moan and groan. They close their eyes and think of England, as the Victorian saying goes. SO much for suhaag raat. Indian directors should see the American movie The Ugly Truth as a mandatory starter course before ever being asked to direct a suhaag raat or intimate scene.

Why is the desperation for a Suhaag Raat on Indian Telly so palpitated?

In real life, any raat with the suhaag is a Suhaag Raat. You don't need to fix a time and date or pick a place or dress up like you are role playing😈. The "go with the flow" nature of the scene is what makes the scene A MOMENT. The best moments are uninhibited, impulsive and unornamented.

It's like Friendship Day or Valentine's Day. Every day with a friend is friendship day, if you have not had a disagreement. Every day with your lover is Valentine's Day, if you have not had a fight. Every raat with your suhaag is suhaag raat, if there is no electricity or TV shows to watch😛😈😆. Baaki sab bakwaas and western marketing gimmicks.

Suhaag Raat in NBT

So the traditional hype around suhaag raat is because it's the first raat for the bride. The Star Trek missio😉 under duress in arranged marriages😛 and the Star Wars mission😛 under wraps in love marriages.

But seriously in NBT?

Who are we kidding?

NBT mein kahan kali khilne wali hai? Megha ki kali toh Amar keh garden mein khili aur doh phool she bache bhi barsaye

Ab kya Suhaag Raat, in the traditional sense

Kyon khele pakdam pakdi sharam aur lajja seh jab yeh khel toh pehle kayi baar khel keh jeet bhi chuke aur purane competition ki album bhi ban chuki

There can never be another Suhaag Raat for Megha in NBT. It's like the bride never wearing white for a re-marriage.

Maybe Mohan is the kali that needs to blossom😛.

Maybe Mohan is the rookie😛 that needs to play the competition😉

Kyonki uski pehle shaadi was like the un-fired gun, the un-blasted rocket, the un-ignited engine.😆

Then again, agar Mohan ko bigamist banane mein kamyab hog aye toh shayad Megha ko bhi kanya 😉banane mein kamyab ho sakteh hain

Is show ka nam badalna chahiye. From NBT to Kuch Bhi Ho Sakta hai

Ok so this was just me and my ullu thoughts. Don't take offense if you don't like them.

if you do like them but are shy. Be a sport and still leave a comment😃

If you do like them but are NOT shy "Control Control Control😉" when you DO leave a comment😆😆

Alls fair in love, war and suhaag raats😆


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Posted: 13 years ago
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sahi kaha word to word I agree
Maybe Mohan is the kali that needs to blossom - bechara Mohan 😆 Guru ne kaha hua phelehi usse maan lena chaheye tha ki uski life mein shanni ke dasha chal rahi hai aur yeh shaani kitne dino tak chalegi na Mohan ko patta aur na viewers ko
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Lols! Shy wali baat hazam nahi hui.
Wasey well written. Agree.
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In real life, any raat with the suhaag is a Suhaag Raat. You don't need to fix a time and date or pick a place or dress up like you are role playing😈. The "go with the flow" nature of the scene is what makes the scene A MOMENT. The best moments are uninhibited, impulsive and unornamented.

It's like Friendship Day or Valentine's Day. Every day with a friend is friendship day, if you have not had a disagreement. Every day with your lover is Valentine's Day, if you have not had a fight. Every raat with your suhaag is suhaag raat, if there is no electricity or TV shows to watch😛😈😆. Baaki sab bakwaas and western marketing gimmicks.


Very well written...word to word agree...

Bold Red:- Bang on...Just like the TV shows are making fun of Marriages, they are doing this as well...

I wonder what kind of audiences they are targetting with this SR thing...& really no idea who gets the pleasure of watching all these non-sense on TV...

Hopefully NBT would spare us from this torture...but, learning from some of the ppl from the forum, looks like the dir duo would not spare us...

God save Indian TV & us.


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Word 👏👏

I could not agree anymore on this..You left India when golden era was almost on its death-bed...unfortunately I was still in country and watching doordarshan shows till bold shows started on desi TV circuit..even I accept that last sane show which I watched as a teen was Dekh Bhai dekh or Hum Paanch...then life moved to new stage . career became the prime time routine of daily life...completely forgot what TV was showing...followed few episodes of Kekta Maata initial shows during my holidays with family, when she started serving the twisted, unrealistic stories with people constantly changing partners in bed, scheming about their family members , forget any neighbour !!!😲 could not handle them after 10-12 episodes..Finally there was a time when I was out of college and started working, moved to TV land in 2004 and realized that I have nothing to regret in my life..whether I watched TV or not 😃😃 I was a TV and movie addict but could not made myself watching a show..whether it was Hasratein,Saans or any other..they had become OTT..heroines suffering from hyperventilation like they ran marathon landing in show as a pure virgin beauty..audience counting days and nights to get SR at the right time and at the right place.🤢

what is the big fuss about this, I still dont understand..why do they have to take this route as if one night will be suhaag raat and rest all nights of life, couples will be sulking or sleeping . don't couples make love in broad daylight ?? what kind of reality it is..what kind of information is being passed in the name of marriage and sex education in country..I still don't believe in valentine day or friendship day..do I need to announce how much I love my friend or how much I love my partner ?? there are ways and means of showing my love..why do i need a special occasion on a particular day or night for that matter ..😆

Thankfully I moved to Music channels...TV had lost its purpose..it was not anymore a medium of entertainment, knowledge and family watching..it had purely become a business and a rat race was going to prove who depicts more demented, twisted and baseless things ..Social responsibility and nation building things were lost..Nation did not need anymore Humlog, Gul Gulshan Gulfaam, Nukkad, Daane angoor ke, Subah or Neev..It did not need any more the character building of adolescent minds or adults as well..

I was hoping NBT will spare us in this area but looks like, it is gonna take similar route..then why the hell did they started a different story with a beautiful message when everything has to go down like this...end of the day everybody has to die on the Suhaag-Sej only..as if it is the burning and the biggest problem in Developing india..whether to make it or not in SR..😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: knraji

In real life, any raat with the suhaag is a Suhaag Raat. You don't need to fix a time and date or pick a place or dress up like you are role playing😈. The "go with the flow" nature of the scene is what makes the scene A MOMENT. The best moments are uninhibited, impulsive and unornamented.

It's like Friendship Day or Valentine's Day. Every day with a friend is friendship day, if you have not had a disagreement. Every day with your lover is Valentine's Day, if you have not had a fight. Every raat with your suhaag is suhaag raat, if there is no electricity or TV shows to watch😛😈😆. Baaki sab bakwaas and western marketing gimmicks.


Very well written...word to word agree...

Bold Red:- Bang on...Just like the TV shows are making fun of Marriages, they are doing this as well...

I wonder what kind of audiences they are targetting with this SR thing...& really no idea who gets the pleasure of watching all these non-sense on TV...

Hopefully NBT would spare us from this torture...but, learning from some of the ppl from the forum, looks like the dir duo would not spare us...

God save Indian TV & us.




I seriously dont know what audiences these people are targetting.

There was a time when I would say teenagers but honestly teenagers these days are super sophisticated and even those that may not be promiscuous are very practical about life and its different facets. honestly i am thinking it is the TRP aunties. those 80000 homes where the boxes are. they must have done a survey and found out that this one got the highest response🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: passionalive

Word 👏👏

I could not agree anymore on this..You left India when golden era was almost on its death-bed...unfortunately I was still in country and watching doordarshan shows till bold shows started on desi TV circuit..even I accept that last sane show which I watched as a teen was Dekh Bhai dekh or Hum Paanch...then life moved to new stage . career became the prime time routine of daily life...completely forgot what TV was showing...followed few episodes of Kekta Maata initial shows during my holidays with family, when she started serving the twisted, unrealistic stories with people constantly changing partners in bed, scheming about their family members , forget any neighbour !!!😲 could not handle them after 10-12 episodes..Finally there was a time when I was out of college and started working, moved to TV land in 2004 and realized that I have nothing to regret in my life..whether I watched TV or not 😃😃 I was a TV and movie addict but could not made myself watching a show..whether it was Hasratein,Saans or any other..they had become OTT..heroines suffering from hyperventilation like they ran marathon landing in show as a pure virgin beauty..audience counting days and nights to get SR at the right time and at the right place.🤢

what is the big fuss about this, I still dont understand..why do they have to take this route as if one night will be suhaag raat and rest all nights of life, couples will be sulking or sleeping . don't couples make love in broad daylight ?? what kind of reality it is..what kind of information is being passed in the name of marriage and sex education in country..I still don't believe in valentine day or friendship day..do I need to announce how much I love my friend or how much I love my partner ?? there are ways and means of showing my love..why do i need a special occasion on a particular day or night for that matter ..😆

Thankfully I moved to Music channels...TV had lost its purpose..it was not anymore a medium of entertainment, knowledge and family watching..it had purely become a business and a rat race was going to prove who depicts more demented, twisted and baseless things ..Social responsibility and nation building things were lost..Nation did not need anymore Humlog, Gul Gulshan Gulfaam, Nukkad, Daane angoor ke, Subah or Neev..It did not need any more the character building of adolescent minds or adults as well..

I was hoping NBT will spare us in this area but looks like, it is gonna take similar route..they why the hell did they started a different story with a beautiful message when everything has to go down like this...end of the day everybody has to die on the Suhaag-Sej only..as if it is the burning and the biggest problem in Developing india..whether to make it or not in SR..😆



Arre pal, you know NBT when I saw the first show reminded me of the old DD shows. Amit Malik did such a fine job directing yaar. Usko daath deni padegi. Seriously I am thinking of doing a appreciation thread for the epis he directed. If only I had so much time but still thinking about it.

these Nepal epis and R scenes are such flops that I have gone back to doing re-runs. I noticed that the Amit Malik ones were even better than Maan. Mohan was most apart from Kunal then. I loved watching those Vyas family scenes. I was amazed that I did not fast forward them. Even Renu was relatable. She was insecure not a villian.

With Maan the epis focus shifted from family to couple but even then the Maan epis bought love in a respectable way. Mohan's admiration of Megha as a person was so endearing to watch.

Nothing good has come from the epis this Deepak Sharma has directed. and he was brought in only for the romance element and of course SR is a part of this. Honestly I dont care if they swing from chandeliers and wear feathers in their hair while they are at it There is no takeaway from such a scene as far as the story goes. I know I made a paisa vasool post for the corridor scene but that was because the show was at its peak and it was easy to say something funny to lighten the mood but now the plot is stagnant and all this stupdity is now very grating.
Edited by --Hope-- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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ROFL. So true. For someone like me who watch a lot of american TV serials, for the life me can't understand this half baked so called "bedroom scenes" of indian television. For those who already know about the birds and the bees, don't need this kind of sexual gyan from TV serials, that too indian television!!

Yup! me too don't believe in having any special day for something that should be spontaneous and uninhibited!! I mean it is hilarious when i think of a scenarios where i have to keep a special day to have sex --God forbid my hubby does not fall ill or has an urgent meeting that day!!!😆

No wonder we have a population explosion!!! Many viewers think that holding hands is enough to scorch the TV screens 😆 !! and still fail to understand which section of the audience they keep harping about that want this kind of nonsense!!

And agree with you 200% Hope -- don't show scenes that will end up looking clumsy and cheap and the viewers are left racking their brains so what happened -- and the endless analysis post the act!


Originally posted by: --Hope--

The content of this post may be viewed as mature but I guarantee you it is not as i have gone totally light on the literature. Please read no further if you are embarrased. Please read further at your own risk😆

So I left India a long time ago. When I left there were no cable TV networks. It was good old Doordarshan with their good old family dramas. Hum Log, Buniyaad, Udaan, Karamchaand and then the last show I think I watched was the comedy Dekh Bhai Dekh. Each show was a family drama and each show had CLASS. Each show had NO SUHAGRAAT or bedroom scenes and that is probably why they had class. Ironic. They were family dramas that left intimacy to the privacy of couples and focussed on the story and this is why I think I fell in love with NBT because it followed the same formula. When I came back in 2004 it was the western network star plus bold and beautiful, Santa Barbara and before you knew it romance and intimate scenes were the essence of the show along with unrealistic and un-relatable family drama.

The Suhaag Raat in Indian TV

I think this is the most hilarious thing that any Indian director can hope to visualize using Indian TV actors on Indian small screen for a family audience staying within conservative Indian social parameters. If you are going to use a western formula to drive up the entertainment then you need to do so with sophistication and class. If you cannot then don't even try because it appears clumsy. No matter how intense the love-making scenes are in western shows it works because the actors do not bring their inhibitions to the set and do not compensate for their discomfort by going clinical. I have yet to run into a single Indian TV serial actor or actress who can do that. So then why bother right? Leave to the bedroom what belongs in the privacy of the bedroom right?

I have only seen a couple of the SR scenes on Indian soaps and the only reactions were either cringe worthy, comical or Are you Kidding me?

Gopi Bahu looked like she is going to faint if the dude holds her hand. I heard BALH was extremely clumsy I can imagine why. Overweight dude 'horizontally tangoing' with close to overweight bride with the master blaster Deepak Sharma as their director. The Pratigya one was THE MOST HILARIOUS. They dressed the place up like the girl was being offered like human sacrifice in a Harrison Ford movie. There were smoke, flowers, music, weird costumes and she was moaning and groaning before anything had even started. I laughed and laughed. Which first timer moans and groans? Sometimes, even the veterans don't moan and groan. They close their eyes and think of England, as the Victorian saying goes. SO much for suhaag raat. Indian directors should see the American movie The Ugly Truth as a mandatory starter course before ever being asked to direct a suhaag raat or intimate scene.

Why is the desperation for a Suhaag Raat on Indian Telly so palpitated?

In real life, any raat with the suhaag is a Suhaag Raat. You don't need to fix a time and date or pick a place or dress up like you are role playing😈. The "go with the flow" nature of the scene is what makes the scene A MOMENT. The best moments are uninhibited, impulsive and unornamented.

It's like Friendship Day or Valentine's Day. Every day with a friend is friendship day, if you have not had a disagreement. Every day with your lover is Valentine's Day, if you have not had a fight. Every raat with your suhaag is suhaag raat, if there is no electricity or TV shows to watch😛😈😆. Baaki sab bakwaas and western marketing gimmicks.

Suhaag Raat in NBT

So the traditional hype around suhaag raat is because it's the first raat for the bride. The Star Trek missio😉 under duress in arranged marriages😛 and the Star Wars mission😛 under wraps in love marriages.

But seriously in NBT?

Who are we kidding?

NBT mein kahan kali khilne wali hai? Megha ki kali toh Amar keh garden mein khili aur doh phool she bache bhi barsaye

Ab kya Suhaag Raat, in the traditional sense

Kyon khele pakdam pakdi sharam aur lajja seh jab yeh khel toh pehle kayi baar khel keh jeet bhi chuke aur purane competition ki album bhi ban chuki

There can never be another Suhaag Raat for Megha in NBT. It's like the bride never wearing white for a re-marriage.

Maybe Mohan is the kali that needs to blossom😛.

Maybe Mohan is the rookie😛 that needs to play the competition😉

Kyonki uski pehle shaadi was like the un-fired gun, the un-blasted rocket, the un-ignited engine.😆

Then again, agar Mohan ko bigamist banane mein kamyab hog aye toh shayad Megha ko bhi kanya 😉banane mein kamyab ho sakteh hain

Is show ka nam badalna chahiye. From NBT to Kuch Bhi Ho Sakta hai

Ok so this was just me and my ullu thoughts. Don't take offense if you don't like them.

if you do like them but are shy. Be a sport and still leave a comment😃

If you do like them but are NOT shy "Control Control Control😉" when you DO leave a comment😆😆

Alls fair in love, war and suhaag raats😆


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: passionalive

Humlog, Gul Gulshan Gulfaam, Nukkad, Daane angoor ke, Subah or Neev..





OMG Pal

these were my favourite shows

Neev

I cried with those kids. 😭😆😆😆

Nukkad

I used to find hari and the lead (whose name I now forget) just so funny

I love these shows

I am going to have to go on google and find these shows and watch them all over again😃

thanks


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Posted: 13 years ago
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ROFL. So true. For someone like me who watch a lot of american TV serials, for the life me can't understand this half baked so called "bedroom scenes" of indian television. For those who already know about the birds and the bees, don't need this kind of sexual gyan from TV serials, that too indian television!!

Yup! me too don't believe in having any special day for something that should be spontaneous and uninhibited!! I mean it is hilarious when i think of a scenarios where i have to keep a special day to have sex --God forbid my hubby does not fall ill or has an urgent meeting that day!!!😆

No wonder we have a population explosion!!! Many viewers think that holding hands is enough to scorch the TV screens 😆 !! and still fail to understand which section of the audience they keep harping about that want this kind of nonsense!!

And agree with you 200% Hope -- don't show scenes that will end up looking clumsy and cheap and the viewers are left racking their brains so what happened -- and the endless analysis post the act!


desi mem

the analysis post on the SR😡 OMG I want to hijack those with comments like hello do you even know that this is all #$%@ and then I take a deep breath and count to 100😆😆😆😆

I still cannot get the images of the Pratigya one or the Maryada one out of my mind and I have only watched 4 shows of the new era.

how the hell is singing and dancing going to get you to the finish line🤣 in a smoky room wehere you are surely going to trip on him becasue you cannot see your feet🤣 so impractical and all the trembling🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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