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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: msin


This episode was Arnavilicious or ASRilicious... šŸ˜†šŸ˜†

ASR has never been shown touching anybody's feet..

Khushi and Arnav conversation was one of the first sensible conversation ..brought back memories of pre marriage conversation about dead parents becoming stars... And watching us...

Khushi got an inkling that there's more to his past than he is letting up and that's hurting him.. She behaved maturely..

Arnav stood up for his wife...and made his Mrs happy...


simple yet lovely post msin !!

btw ASR touched the feet of the Elder Gupta's when went thr for K's Birthday right ?? ...

Kushi's maturity was appreciable tho' ... like u said i loved the way ASR stood up 4 his Wifeyy!!

luv n šŸ¤—



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Posted: 13 years ago
hiii ruby...sry dear..i just ovrlooked ur post read it in rush...bt it was FAB..šŸ‘..
trp is still thr no increase...hmmm...!!!!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: paayaal


it's too acidic...not only for the show but also for the forum members!!!!


Yep, it is meant to be ACIDIC. Iritz said that I might have some fun discussing stuff with some "open minded people" on this thread. So, let me explain why I wrote this:

1. For some reason there is a percentage of population that either doesnt believe that Khushi was wronged or that she deserves a clear apology for all the acts by Arnav -- in face of a mountain of evidence -- I would love to discuss it with people who deny it at least once to see where they are actually coming from.

2. I dont know since when Redemption became a bad word! I used to think that when someone does something wrong they should just apologize or make up!

3. Then there is the name game -- just so it makes it easy to dismiss people's opinion -- Oh they are so and so and we named them that so we dont need to pay attention to any points -- why? it is easy to just make blanket statements rather than discuss something.

4. Then there is the crowd that thinks "criticizing something somehow makes sure that IPKKND will go off air" -- just because people criticized.

First, Kushi was wronged there are no two ways about it.

Second Arnav and Khushi are in LOVE so they should get together.

That coming together should keep "dignity" of both sides. Not just screw around with some "hero worship".

I am a fan of Khushi because of the qualities shown by the same writers -- why do I like Khushi:

1. She is a strong, hard working, a person with self-respect, respect for her culture, love and affection for her family.

2. She solves every problem with love and affection.
3. She is played beautifully by Sanaya.

Now what is wrong in liking a person like that? Does that mean that I will always think that ASR is wrong -- well you saw my posts. My question is WHY DOESNT everyone like this girl? She is completely non-controversial, she as a fictional character is just a good girl so why do people have a problem with her?

So, the "naming" population is doing so because they themselves are actually doing it -- being subjective about people on the show!

Now for why I had to make it acidic. If someone is paying attention to this forum and they belong to the CV group, they need to know how strongly some people feel about this current situation.

I havent seen a single good thing here. No one is happy, there is nothing FUN, everyone is just deadpan in what they are doing ...

So, if this continues the show loses its "uniqueness" and that will result int he death of the show.

So, if we as critics who want the show to continue, cannot give good advise and think "criticizing" will only lead to "NEGATIVITY" (another favorite theme on the forum) -- we will be contributing to the demise of the show.

Not everyone will have the LOVE for the show to keep giving it chances. You guys are passionate about it and hence you are here on the forum day and night writing away. Most people watch it for 20 mins -- if all they see is crap like Anjali getting jealous or Dadi practicing Caste System -- people WILL change the CHANNEL. So, when our writers are being "clueless", we need to give them a CLUE.

That is the fundamental basis of ANY democracy in real life as well. Dormant people who say "oh someone else will take care of it" will never help change anything. So, like anything in life, everything we do represents who we are!!!

I dont think we are people who enjoy a girl getting beaten up over and over again.

As for redemption -- What I am expecting is a simple situation where Arnav accepts the fact that his ways may have hurt his favorite human being. Then just let that person know that he wouldnt do it again because he knows better. If he can convey that to his wife, and make her comfortable, we actually have a Great Couple.

So, Your imagination of what redemption means is something I obviously am not familiar with.

Finally, the reason for the strong language is simple -- many a time yelling shuts people down -- those are the sensitive people but then those people hear fine and listen to everything. But there are those that dont really listen too well. To get their attention, you just have to SCREAM and say some shocking things. That definitely gets their attention.

Now what I wrote is on at least 20-30 pages on the forum. That may fall in the hands of the writers and the SCREAMING may actually have an impact because till now they have been dismissing everything as "ranting by hormonal females" -- the writer this time is a sane and generally very level headed GUY. If they call me hormonal they have another thing coming.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sarithaipkknd


i don agree with her tat ASR is an Assol character!!! well maybe she has some valid points..but she absolutely rude


First off, I am a HE. Secondly, I wasnt trying to hold back ( I actually did a bit but I wasnt trying too hard).

As for being RUDE -- I am being RUDE because what they are showing in the name of entertainment is just CRASS. And if we dont let them know that in a language they can understand, we will be failing. It took a whole bunch of screaming by people to stop the Anjali stuff. Did you notice, she changed her ways almost instantly post that dreadful weekend. I was one among many that went "ape-shit" at the writers.

As for the "toxicity" of the language -- let us see -- all adults are used to it -- children dont read it.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

He is right in some ways but could have worded it better. From an woman's pov..I hate khushi being treated as a punch bag..but if u look at the story..it is probably needed so that arnav realises the extent of khushi's hurt at his hands..not saying he has not realised..dadi's actions seemed a reflection of his own till sometime back..this can taken as another step towards correction of mistakes ..

Maverick is right about the doormatish attitude of the woman in Indian soaps.the modern woman seems to put off audiences..or is it that writers have created stereotypes that have imprinted itself in ppl's brains..anyway u look at it there is a need for change in the way writers approach the woman characters


Wording depends entirely on the level of Frustration. So, wording was just spontaneous. If you were standing in front of me, listening would have been worse.

Here is the reason why:

There are very few things that make me cringe. May be I am not used to this kind of "constant badgering of characters" -- this is my first hindi show and I have no experience watching them.

I got hooked because of a smiling assassin Khushi -- fun loving, pooh poohing all kinds of difficulties and living life to its fullest. I dont like watching people cry. I actually may not have seen that many people cry in the first place. Especially a woman. I thought Indians hated making a girl cry because of the theory that "you dont treat the Lakshmi of the house badly".

When I started watching this show with Khushi crying practically every day after her marriage, I thought that they had a plan that would make it stop. But hell it continued and now they found another reason to make her cry. What the HELL.

So, to explain how it makes me feel I have to tell you this anecdote. Back with the US war on Iraq started (I opposed the war by the way) in the early days I was in HK on business and I got this email with a video. I usually dont open them and I dont give out my email ID that easily. This day for some reason, I opened the damn thing. To my shock it was a video of one of the "American Contractors" being "Beheaded" by Iraqis with some words said before the actual act. I CRINGED and felt very nauseous -- mind you I have seen some crazy things in my life but watching them cut off that head was just too brutal -- that part of the video lasted just about 30 secs.

When I watch Khushi and tears in her eyes constantly as written by these directors, I get the same feeling. It makes me feel sick to my stomach that we are still making this kind of entertainment. I never felt that way for the first 185 episodes because there was a reason when she cried and I understand that women cry easier than men. But these days, when she cries with all the pain that started with a forced marriage -- it makes me go crazy. I have been rationalizing it with some crap or the other but just this amount of crying is just painful.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sarithaipkknd

dint i say todays episode will be fab?
what we need is a great script, tight direction, sarun on sets, no body doubles... n bham ... magic...!!


i am so disappointed with this episode... this is the first time i been so disappointed...
what the hell were they doing???? how can the cvs do this to mee..??

1. no bloopers🤢

2. no body doubles🤢

3. no ott comedy 🤢


4. no anjali!!( ramanchi)
🤢

5. non crying n normal payal 🤢

6. bearable mami!!! 🤢

7. no akash!!
🤢

p.s.-
i think i need to send a serious email to the production house...
demanding an apology!!!

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but before i say good bye... some points by mr kamlesh khabriji that u must try to decode!!

1. why wasnt khushiji wearing her amma ki akhiri nishani today???? is it something related to her past? is it wat half the forum is trying to decode??? is that the missing link

2. why is dadiji's wig so funny ??? was it borrowed from a scarecrow??? is the PH trying to
save more money???
3. where is dadiji sleeping? is it naniji's room? or masala mama's? or hp's? if its hps room ve they done the shuddhikaran yet?
4. will dadi say "what the" tmrw? can we expect some great oneliners from her also?
5. why dint dadi ask about mahinder singh raizada? or she also forgot about him like the rest of the clan?
6. why isnt akash coming back home? is he that scared of dadi? or is he having an affair with mrs kaul?

if u find the answers please pm me.. i ll be waiting
😃
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🤣 hilarious ... specially this one "some points by mr kamlesh khabriji " and "akash coming back home? is he that scared of dadi? or is he having an affair with mrs kaul?"


thankieee 4 the wonderful post !!! 😃 ... loveddd ittt !!!





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Posted: 13 years ago
WHOA WHOA .. WHOA ..

MAVERICK DUDE .. WELCOME TO DC ..

MAN THIS WAS SOMETHING .. LOVED IT TO BITS ( THE DISCUSSION ) ..

HEY GO AHEAD RANT .. (IN MY SANER DAYS I USED TO LEAD THE PACK šŸ˜‰ SO KNOW WHERE U R COMING FROM ) ..

It constantly amazes .. me how so many people .. interpret 18 minutes in so many varied ways .. & THERE IS NO WRONG INTERPRETATION SINCE IT IS WHAT U PERCEIVED OF THOSE 18 MINUTES .. SO COOL ..

I havent read this post of urs in detail .. but wil do so .. to understand ur POV .. my only uneducated point here is .. ALL SCRIPTS HAVE FLAWS ...

INDIA'S BIGGEST MOVIE .. SHOLAY HAD SOME ... THE BIGGEST SHOW ON TV BUNIYAAD HAD MANY .. SO ITS ONLY FAIR IPK . may have some ..

I agree "redemption' is not a bad word .. it is needed .. very much in this show .. since the hero started his existence as a ANTI HERO . ... i also agree on EXECUTION .. A WHOLE HOG OF SCENES WHICH WERE REDEMPTION SCENES .. ( IN THE FORM U WANT ) .. LOST THEIR APPEAL ..

From a writing perspective .. this is the first TRACK in IPK . i have seen which is most GHISSA PITA .. so the writers have not really let us down .. BUT EXECUTION .. has been the biggest BANE .. Lets hope .. that in future that changes ( dont hold ur breath) ..

OK .. rest i will post .. once i read ur post .. in detail .. šŸ˜‰

CHILL dude .. U R MOST welcome here ON DC .. with as many acerbic posts as u want .. ( atleast i can be the angel šŸ˜‰ & curb the demon inside .. waiting to burst out šŸ˜†)

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: paayaal


But thats what TRP janta wants Geet, thats y it's been shown...agar bahu ko satayenge nahi to maza kaise aayega na...did u watch Ekta Kapoors saas bahu dramas?? They were so damn regressive it was unbelievable... infidelity, polygamy, what not, & still they were at one time ruling the TRP charts & running for 7-8 yrs!!!!

Star Plus is saying 'nayi soch nayi lehar'...but they r still running for the TRPs na...

also the audience hasn't risen above the Ekta Kapoor fed saas bahu drama, they still want that...y do u think YRKKH is been going on for sooo long, even DABH is a saas bahu drama, where the saas has been very rude to her bahu in front of every1...no wonder it's ruling the charts!!!


I actually think that this is an excuse. If you remember there was a phase when Mumbai just made movies that were based on Hollywood movies. I as a guy of Indian origin used to promote the creativity of Indians -- but the reports of one movie after another being a "remake" was just disgusting. All the directors and producers used one like "the audience want this so we are are making these movies"! Now things have change with the popularity of Raj Kumar Hirani, Farah Khan, Imtiaz Ali, selected Karan Johar stuff and the Adi Chopra angle of making some good movies changed everything.

These guys really had a chance to change the way the TV world is.

Also, all the women sitting at home want to watch TV. So, most of the shows will kind of rotate TRPs. If you remember the TRPs of this show -- they were at their best at the time of Sangeet leading up to the wedding. They dropped from that time.

So, it is really a cop-out manufactured by some ineffectual writers. I hope things will change for the better.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sarithaipkknd

dint i say todays episode will be fab?
what we need is a great script, tight direction, sarun on sets, no body doubles... n bham ... magic...!!
na koi hai ... na koi tha...
zindagi mein tumhaare siva ...
tum dena saath mera.. o humnavaaa...

beautiful song beautiful vm...
enjoy the vm for the evening...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWWLLSmTHY8[/YOUTUBE]
credit-naandiini
i think this song beautifully compliments the relationship of arnav and khushi...
so presenting before u my takes...


todays episode proves that we dont need a rabba vey or a shirtless barun to make an episode fab(though both are equally welcome)...

finally he has found his soul mate ...

1.with whom he can share his sorrows...
2.with whom he can share his insecurities...
3.with whom he can share his griefs...
4. with whom he can share his nightmares...
5. with whom he can share his past...

and she will not give up:

1. until she cleanses him of his burden...
2.until she heals him with her love and patience..
3.until she can remove all the unhappiness from those eyes...
4.until she brings back arnav who is somewhere within ASR...
5.until she brings back the 15yr old boy who had to grow up in a single day

and that will be the ultimate redemption...

she has already started removing the layers...

he just needs some time... he has been lonely for a very long time...
today we got the angry asr back... but if you look in his eyes..with anger... you ll also see a thin film of sorrow... a deep rooted sadness that his dadi abandoned them when he needed her the most... and now she is asking him why he dint consult with her about his marriage...?

my heart cried for him today...

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so guys i won the bet !!!! i love dadi more than angel... i knew i ll be the one rabba veying her...šŸ˜‰
i am so disappointed with this episode... this is the first time i been so disappointed...
what the hell were they doing???? how can the cvs do this to mee..??

1. no bloopers🤢

2. no body doubles🤢

3. no ott comedy 🤢


4. no anjali!!( ramanchi)
🤢

5. non crying n normal payal 🤢

6. bearable mami!!! 🤢

7. no akash!!
🤢

p.s.-
i think i need to send a serious email to the production house...
demanding an apology!!!

*********************************************************

but before i say good bye... some points by mr kamlesh khabriji that u must try to decode!!

1. why wasnt khushiji wearing her amma ki akhiri nishani today???? is it something related to her past? is it wat half the forum is trying to decode??? is that the missing link

2. why is dadiji's wig so funny ??? was it borrowed from a scarecrow??? is the PH trying to
save more money???
3. where is dadiji sleeping? is it naniji's room? or masala mama's? or hp's? if its hps room ve they done the shuddhikaran yet?
4. will dadi say "what the" tmrw? can we expect some great oneliners from her also?
5. why dint dadi ask about mahinder singh raizada? or she also forgot about him like the rest of the clan?
6. why isnt akash coming back home? is he that scared of dadi? or is he having an affair with mrs kaul?

if u find the answers please pm me.. i ll be waiting
😃
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p.s.- guys, ur feedback means a lot to me...thanks for encouraging me..
love u all...
p.p.s.-my take for the day is dedicated to my partner in crime in spreading cheers through r wonderful little game... we invented in DC...
"krishu"...

who is not able to write any posts now a days because of her exams...miss u😳



hhahahaah...saru crime patner...šŸ˜†šŸ˜†...
thnxx yar...šŸ¤—

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Posted: 13 years ago
It's nothing but a venting out of a frustrated Khushi fan...I've been a fan of his write-ups but sorry..Couldn't agree with his points here...
He is right in some ways but could have worded it better. From an woman's pov..I hate khushi being treated as a punch bag..but if u look at the story..it is probably needed so that arnav realises the extent of khushi's hurt at his hands..not saying he has not realised..dadi's actions seemed a reflection of his own till sometime back..this can taken as another step towards correction of mistakes ..

Maverick is right about the doormatish attitude of the woman in Indian soaps.the modern woman seems to put off audiences..or is it that writers have created stereotypes that have imprinted itself in ppl's brains..anyway u look at it there is a need for change in the way writers approach the woman characters

That I agree..But somehow he's too acerbic and I couldn't connect to his diatribe...It's a pity that writers can't do away with the doormatish attitude of women on Indian TV...It seems they deserve a sadistic pleasure projecting women as bechari...And I was disappointed...In view of the fact that no one in RM has behaved with Khushi in this way...It has been such a balanced and sensible household...To see such a Daadi...They could have taken another path!!

And he irked me with "redemption"...That one word is enough to boil my blood,period!!

LOL! Yep it is a guy thing. When we get angry it is difficult to hold back on the language. I did do my best otherwise it would have been much worse. As I explained my problem is with the "tears" -- I cannot stand people showing a woman's tears as entertainment. This is like constant angst on an on and Khushi is practically a Glycerin ball one min and then a happy girl the next. They keep doing this over an over again.

I read something hilarious some where -- "I dont know how much water Anjali drinks to be able to cry this long"!!! Entertainment which is supposed to be about a love story cannot have people CRYING like this all the time and there is no way even in the ancient times women were these kinds of doormats. Especially Indian women in some middle class families are nice may be too nice but never really "doormats" as far as I have heard. This constant crap is just too boring.

At least that is my take. If they think they know better, let us see who is vindicated in the end.

Cheers.

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