Arnav's Patchwork Quilt Of Redemption (edited)

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Disclaimer: I don't love Barun. I don't love Sanaya. I don't know either of them. It's enough hassle just loving all the people in my life who I DO know, I don't have time to waste it on random celebrities. I don't, however hate them either.

EDIT: Those of you who disagreed with me, I wish there were a record of all your usernames so that tomorrow when you make about fifty million posts about how much you loved it, I could send you all a virtual punch in the face for your hypocrisy. kthnxbye.

Few words in this world hold as much power as this one: 'Sorry'.

It has the ability to stop wars, heal hearts and equalise everybody regardless of caste, creed or character.

It's one which I honestly believe only cowards fear to say. It commands respect and brings with it an ocean of forgiveness. It can fix wounds and rifts you never even knew were there.


Which is why I it saddens me that Arnav hasn't said it yet.



Oh, I understand this 'unique, ASR style' Road to Redemption- he's going back through time and patching over the painful memories with new, happier ones. He is trying to fix the past with the present...


- 'I HATE YOU.' replaced with, 'I love you, Khushi.'


-Her looking after and nursing him replaced with him looking after her.

- The pearls he ripped replaced with a brand new pearl necklace.

- The memory of sleeping in the cold outside replaced with the 'honour' of sleeping in his bed beside his 37 degree body.

- The gift from his Nani which he broke replaced by the simpler ones which truly make Khushi happy.

- His not wanting to touch her and being disgusted to so much as breathe the same air as her replaced by his libido suddenly overflowing and his wanting to hug her at any given moment as well as share his breath with hers with the constant FAILED kisses.

- All the times he didn't stand by her or trust her or respect her or give her a position as his wife replaced by standing beside her in front of his own family, against his Jeeja and now, his Dadi (though I would contest his intentions here- is he doing it just to stand by Khushi, or is he just doing it to fulfill some childish urge to rebel against his strict grandmother- I've included it purely because I think it's important and I guess it is possible to be doing both).



But that's not how it works.


You can try and tell me that the way he's doing things is less superficial: He's remembering individual pains he caused her and then sticking a plaster on them/ stitching them up. But if this is what you're trying to argue, then you just don't get it.

Patching up a wound without disinfecting it first can end up causing even more harm.


What Arnav's doing at the minute is artificial and it leaves me with the gross feeling of him almost trying to buy Khushi's forgiveness.

But for the love of all that is holy- Khushi forgave him almost the second she realised why he did what he did.


What he's doing at the minute is to make her forget. It's just how things work in his head: forget the past and perfect the present. I wrote HERE about how Arnav's bulldozer style of getting to love completely overshadowed the softer, gentler road Khushi took- and once again, his demolition style attempt at redemption has completely knocked Khushi's need to be angry. His persistent "YOU MUST FORGIVE ME!" has destroyed her right to say "NOT YET!"



Khushi doesn't need or want pearls or presents or even for Arnav to become the Perfect Pati.


She needs an apology. She needs Arnav to shatter his ego, admit his mistakes and apologise to her. Say the word.


"Sorry."


Even if Khushi herself doesn't realise it yet.


Like I said before, it's an equaliser.

Until he actually SAYS the word and truly humbles himself in front of her, until he stops with this high-and-mighty, I'm-better-than-you act of 'I will protect you' and finally makes his way to 'We will protect each other'...


He has realised before how much his words and actions hurt her and he apologised (giving us some of the most perfect scenes of IPKKND thus far).


Therefore until and unless he apologises again this time, I cannot believe that he truly appreciates the depths of the pain and suffering he put her through... And his road to redemption will remain incomplete.



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Rafa! How do I love thee? Let me count the ways...

You get the gist! I love you for not being afraid to call bull shit on what apparently is...bullshit!

I haven't watched the episodes in 3 weeks! Which you would know, rafa, is major for me...because i was one of those people fan-girling over ASR when he was actually ASR.

I hung on to the show for as long as I possibly could, without insulting my own intellect.

I get from your post that he is trying to make up for what he did to her previously, by acting as he should have in those situations?

To me it feels like he is doing everything short of hitting her over the head (wait, didn't he do that already?😆) and making her lose her memory.

Forcing someone to forgive, to forget, is never going to work. In fact, even if he did say sorry, Khushi is not obligated to forgive him. What he did to her, is still doing to her, is neither forgivable nor forgettable.

But a sorry would sure go a long way in making her trust him again.

ASR's biggest asset is also his biggest weakness - his attitude. Unless and until he loses that in front of Khushi, he is never going to earn her love.

Love you sachin!

PS: I gotta admit, i do love Sanaya and Barun's antics, but i wouldn't go as far as to say I love them! That would be creepy!
Edited by BlueMystique - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arisai

Therefore until and unless he apologises again this time, I cannot believe that he truly appreciates the depths of the pain and suffering he put her through... And his road to redemption will remain incomplete.


Rafa, you've typed every thought that went through mine when watching each of those episodes last week, in all those moments when Arnav worked on "wooing" his wife back whether it was pushing her to the edge and leaving her little choice or attempting to make her smile by buying her heartfelt, genuine presents. Bladrin, give me a hug fam.🤗

None of it really counts if he finds it so fundamentally difficult to apologise, I mean yes, he has apologised when she tripped over herself behaving like a TV for him but it was so vague and clouded, what was it he was apologising about? Forcing her to dance or the multiple times he's pressured her into doing whatever he's wanted.

In a way, it's incredibly selfish, especially in that scene where in desperation he asks Khushi whether she is ready to let go of it all so quickly, let it all be finished in a moment? I don't think he ever understood why Khushi resisted.

BUT @bold - the issue isn't one sided, it's not just Arnav. It's shoddy writing and screenplay with little thought about characterisations.

Here is my fundamental issue with all of it, Arnav needs everything spelled out for him and I don't think he actually appreciates how much he has insulted, demeaned and both physically and mentally abused her because she's never held him accountable. She's always swept it under the carpet. As feisty and cunning as Khushi is, she behaves like a doormat when Arnav really wrongs her, the only time she ever protected her self-worth was after the GH incident. SP bahu syndrome.

So it's a two way street, she needs to make him realise of how absolutely wrong some of his actions were, but she doesn't.

Just like he doesn't understand how wrong his actions were and probably doesn't appreciate the need to apologise. So he won't.

Honestly, it's screwed up characterisations and screenplay. It's erratic without consistency.
Edited by Rabba-Ve-Delena - 13 years ago
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The disclaimer done it for me!
I couldn't stop laughing literally. You made me doubt my love for Ronaldo! then I thought nah mate he's way to popular and I know him ;) On a personal level.

Oh and he's better than Arnav he knows how to say SORRY!!

Well I haven't watched it in ages, but reading posts and tweets I find out he's just trying to woo her and kiss her. Which he's failing in the kissing department as well. He can only manage a cheek kiss! He needs lessons. moving on.

WHY CAN'T THE DUDE JUST SAY SORRY? AND TORTURE HIMSELF BY REMEMBERING ALL THE MOMENTS WHERE HE HURT HER.

But nooo!! All he does is say YOU'RE MY WIFE! LET'S KISS AND MAKE UP!

DUDE That doesn't work in real life. Khushi needs to say no! You sent me to a building which was on the verge to collapse and you didn't even say sorry!

You married me forcibly Thinking I was having a secret affair with your BROTHER IN LAW. Did you say sorry then? Not really made up for it? Did he?

All we get is comedy from Khushi. She needs to tell Arnav she's going to leave so he can realise how much he needs her!

WHAT'S ALL THIS PACIFYING BUSINESS? SHE'S GOING TO DO A COMEDY TRACK TO HIM SMILE?

WHEN WILL HE EVER APOLOGISE FOR HIS ACTIONS.

PEACE OUT.

I ONLY FANCY ARNAV SINGH RAIZADA FROM INTOXICATED.

LIYAAA AND ADAM GEMILI <3

Edited by Aveiro - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I loved his style of redemption.
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Originally posted by: arisai

Disclaimer: I don't love Barun. I don't love Sanaya. I don't know either of them. It's enough hassle just loving all the people in my life who I DO know, I don't have time to waste it on random celebrities. I don't, however hate them either.

First of all I love your disclaimer, I don't love either of them either I adore their acting though. There's no point loving someone who doesn't have a clue who you are. Sad but true people.

Few words in this world hold as much power as this one: 'Sorry'.

It has the ability to stop wars, heal hearts and equalise everybody regardless of caste, creed or character.

It's one which I honestly believe only cowards fear to say. It commands respect and brings with it an ocean of forgiveness. It can fix wounds and rifts you never even knew were there.


Which is why I it saddens me that Arnav hasn't said it yet.

When the words sorry is said , I can understand why Arnav has not apologized yet. He's an egoistic person, and those that are egoistic find it very hard to swallow their ego's and admit they were wrong and apologise to people. I am saying this because sometimes I am one of those people it's not that I have a big ego because trust me I don't. It's just hard for me to say sorry because I feel like I have acted like a complete fool and I wouldn't know where to start. Arnav has had many chances to say sorry, he's capable of saying sorry as we saw in the past where he apologised to her so beautifully. I also don't like the way some aspects of the track is going. We know where Arnav gets his egoistic form from, his dadi.



Oh, I understand this 'unique, ASR style' Road to Redemption- he's going back through time and patching over the painful memories with new, happier ones. He is trying to fix the past with the present...


- 'I HATE YOU.' replaced with, 'I love you, Khushi.'


-Her looking after and nursing him replaced with him looking after her.

- The pearls he ripped replaced with a brand new pearl necklace.

- The memory of sleeping in the cold outside replaced with the 'honour' of sleeping in his bed beside his 37 degree body.

- The gift from his Nani which he broke replaced by the simpler ones which truly make Khushi happy.

- His not wanting to touch her and being disgusted to so much as breathe the same air as her replaced by his libido suddenly overflowing and his wanting to hug her at any given moment as well as share his breath with hers with the constant FAILED kisses.

- All the times he didn't stand by her or trust her or respect her or give her a position as his wife replaced by standing beside her in front of his own family, against his Jeeja and now, his Dadi (though I would contest his intentions here- is he doing it just to stand by Khushi, or is he just doing it to fulfill some childish urge to rebel against his strict grandmother- I've included it purely because I think it's important and I guess it is possible to be doing both).



But that's not how it works.


No it doesn't work like that, he doesn't understand that the one thing Khushi wants from him is to apologise if he actually does say sorry then the real story would start. Then they could actually try moving past where they are now and resolve their problems and actually attemp to lea a normal life.


You can try and tell me that the way he's doing things is less superficial: He's remembering individual pains he caused her and then sticking a plaster on them/ stitching them up. But if this is what you're trying to argue, then you just don't get it.

Patching up a wound without disinfecting it first can end up causing even more harm.


What Arnav's doing at the minute is artificial and it leaves me with the gross feeling of him almost trying to buy Khushi's forgiveness.

But for the love of all that is holy- Khushi forgave him almost the second she realised why he did what he did.


What he's doing at the minute is to make her forget. It's just how things work in his head: forget the past and perfect the present. I wrote HERE about how Arnav's bulldozer style of getting to love completely overshadowed the softer, gentler road Khushi took- and once again, his demolition style attempt at redemption has completely knocked Khushi's need to be angry. His persistent "YOU MUST FORGIVE ME!" has destroyed her right to say "NOT YET!"



Khushi doesn't need or want pearls or presents or even for Arnav to become the Perfect Pati.


She needs an apology. She needs Arnav to shatter his ego, admit his mistakes and apologise to her. Say the word.


"Sorry."


Even if Khushi herself doesn't realise it yet.


Like I said before, it's an equaliser.

Until he actually SAYS the word and truly humbles himself in front of her, until he stops with this high-and-mighty, I'm-better-than-you act of 'I will protect you' and finally makes his way to 'We will protect each other'...


He has realised before how much his words and actions hurt her and he apologised (giving us some of the most perfect scenes of IPKKND thus far).


Therefore until and unless he apologises again this time, I cannot believe that he truly appreciates the depths of the pain and suffering he put her through... And his road to redemption will remain incomplete.


I think they are going to make him apologise later and knowing Khushi she has two options.


Forgive and Forget - continue living with him and forget what he did so they can start their lives together.

Forgive and don't forget- She can move away from him after the contract ends so he knows how much it hurt her and that she can't live with him.

I think we need to see that broken Arnav trying to get Khushi to forgive him, I want to see that painful Arnav the one who was broken when he found out about Khushi and Shyam.



Edited by -Chinnu- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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beautiful post...

agree with whatever points you mentioned...practically since the very time he returned back to RM and after that much heated conversation b/w the duo he never felt the urge to go back to her and atleast apologize for all the misdeeds he did...still he had the audacity to go back to her remind her of the contract , get her back into his life by hook or crook...not for a single second the thought crossed his mind what khusi really wants and give her some much needed space...

i wonder if this was just a method of winning over his lady love khusi and not accepting the very fact that he had been defeated that wud eventually churn up his big fat ego, i guess this realization that he illtreated khusi has never dawned on him...if this is what ppl call redemption i really m speechless!

throwing thousands of grave allegations on a young girl of 23 and then one day realising his unconditional love for her and all of a sudden back to his mission to please her with all the luxuries he has at hand...only becoz ASR can never take a NO...indeed shocks me!

i wonder if this all is a mere game for him...winning her over and then again upsetting her,again back to wooing her...it leaves me with nothing but with a thought that how is this girl holding onto her sanity?

no bashing session...but time and again the Raizadas are acting dimpit mean and i m hating it - the servant thing has got on my nerves though i did love the way arnav stood for khusi but thrz more to go to make her feel wanted and loved!

the road to redemption is gonna be long and tiring and he needs to be calm and relaxed and be by the side of his ladylove khusi!

a simple sorry wud do no harm!
Edited by icegurl789 - 13 years ago
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First of all, sorry for taking so long to edit the res. 😳

Second, you're absolutely right! It irks me to no end that alongside many other characters of the show, the essence of 'Arnav' or 'ASR' is being completely butchered! I know that may lead to wonder what the heck that's got to do with the apology and whatnot, but seriously, the last couple of weeks, maybe months - I dunno, I feel like the pure, passionate and magical fundamentals of the show that was IPKKND has somehow been lost in transition somewhere. 😕

I think I read in one of the previous comments about the lacklustre writing and screenplay that leaves a lot to be desired within the show and how that directly affects the character traits, and I completely agree with that - I don't know what on earth the CV's are playing at or why, but they're turning what was quite an ambitious project into one of the routine daily fixes of the same ghissa-pitta tracks that has been airing on Star Plus for years.

I read some more on how there are many, MANY contradictions within the show and how they're constantly beating around the bush over one topic, and then BLINK and you're onto the next track, without so much of a forewarning.

Of all the characters, I think they've mostly done injustice to is Khushi - they didn't spare a redemption track for Arnav to understand and make up for all the crap he put her through. And no, splurging on gifts she neither wants, nor needs does NOT count. It's like what Khushi said: [paraphrased] "aapne yeh sab cheese toh khareedli, lekin afsos ke aap humaari muskuraahat (or was it 'khushi'?) nahin khareed paaye"
Which, leads me back to the whole inconsistency that is being displayed - now, all of a sudden, Khushi's dancing and prancing around Arnav to make HIM feel better? What sense does that make?! I wanna see some grovelling, pleading, justification, etc. from ASR's side! I want him to hurt and to comprehend the months of hell he put her through. As sadistic as it may sound, I want that, I really do. But, alas, like many of our other pleads and cries, this one may also just go completely unheard -.-

I also frankly don't care about the fact that people say how "his redemption style is unique" and that it's "different" - pardon my French, but that's just utter bullshit. Apologise like a man and make up for it properly.

Coming back to my point on the PH. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how much we say, we can't really change much can we? How have they STILL not realised that we DON'T WANT all of this ronaa-dhonaa/pati ko manaana crap? Nor are we interested in any Kitchen Politics? So WHY, pray tell, are they still incorporating all of this within the show?! I've tried making sense of the way their mind works, I really have, but I constantly pull up with blanks :(

Nowadays, it's almost become sort of an obligation for me to watch the show - I know it sounds strange; if I don't WANT to watch it, why should I? Not quite sure how to explain it, but I think I'm constantly looking out for those glimpses of what could have been or how it should have been.
For me, the show and the IPKKND Fandom are pretty separate - I'll watch the show, be disappointed YET AGAIN, and then sort of blend into the amazing world that so many talented writers have managed to create on this forum.

I think I would have pulled my hair out in frustration if I hadn't read even half of the amazing things that I've had the privilege to. 😆


--- AFTERTHOUGHT -- (I'm prone to these quite often xD)

What kind of "Creative Visionaries" do those people call themselves? Honestly? There is absolutely nothing "creative" about this mess they're making of the show! In fact, it's all been regurgitated across years and years of exactly the same tracks that we've seen in all previous shows. Is this your "Nayi Soch", Star Plus? Really? 🤢


*RANT OVER*

PS: Sorry if there's lack of coherence - I may have gotten slightly carried away whilst writing this. I'm really so disappointed.

Edited by MsIPKKNDManic - 13 years ago
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Perfectly summarised Rafa...After reading the first half I was wondering to myself where the heck is she planning on taking this post, until I read the analogy with disinfecting a wound (you medic you)

I'd say res but I know I probably wont be able to get round to updating my comment 😆
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Beautifully written dear ! 👏 Well said,and yes a sorry would have more than sufficed and Khushi would would have been really happy with just a sorry but yes he hasnt said so till now.However we have always known that Khushi and ASR always understand each other with no words(remember the telepathic convo,how when ASR couldnt talk,Khushi was his mouth piece etc) so what i'm trying to say here is that i'm sure she must have an inkling that ASR 's attitude towards her is changing and that he has evolved from what he was when she first met him.Moreover Khushi is also one such character who always finds happiness in other's happiness.I'm not justifiying ASR's actions,i'm just saying that yes he is doing things in his own way and i hope that one day he would actually tell her sorry !😊

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