Spice Girls Hangout:Let the games begin...

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Winter is coming... (In case you don't know, it is the tag line of 'Game of Thrones')

Interesting episode and maybe a necessary one given the PH has their knickers in the knot to up the drama quotient and bring in the bucks. Dadi Malik is here and she means business. A woman who deserted her own family 14 years ago for some reasons unknown, vowed never to come back barges into the lives of the Raizadas to stake her claim. I am alive, I am here, I am Malik, so are you and I am here to remind you of that! What is her agenda? Why does she matter? What will she do? All remains to be seen. Which way does the scale tip with Dadi will be a matter of perspective. For now, there is not enough evidence to be pro or anti-dadi. I am sitting on the fence and my ass hurts.

There were plenty of hints for decoding but I am going to refrain. I am not about to get slapped with another jurmana in 24 hours. If anyone asks a kostin, I can oblige only if you are willing to split the jurmana :)

With Dadi, comes a quiz show. Why now? Isn't that a loaded question. Besides the obvious answer, TRP, looks like Dadi is here to be the third wheel in pretty much everyone's business. Every love story needs a conflict, without pain, trials and tests somehow the strength of love is incomprehensible. Whoever came up with that idea was one sadistic and unhappy person but sure as hell got people to buy into the concept. Love in the time of Cholera! Did I just compare Dadi with Cholera?

Something big happened 14 years ago that made Dadi hibernate up until now. Something equally big must have happened for her to shed her exile. She must have known that something is not kosher at Shantivan but how? Did she come here on the pretext of Shyam? It is possible. Who says she has to personally meet Shyam to get the news? A message is what matters, not the messenger. It could be a fly on the wall, a little birdie, water cooler talk or what have you. There are other typical IPK ways in which she might have gotten the message: telepathy with Payal so Mami can be set straight or through random gusts of wind. Yes, the same gust of wind that is around Khushi and Arnav, now has a third tenant, Dadi. The point is message was sent and received. She is here to 'right' all the 'wrongs' but what is black or white depends on your perspective, doesn't it?

Another interesting point to note here is why Dadi chose to go away 14 years ago? Does the 'peetal ka bartan' run in the family? 'Woh aurath' that night did something that made Dadi hide in her peetal ka bartan for 14 years, does the same fate await the grandson? There have been hints of the past which connect Khushi and Arnav, who knows what the past brings in the future?

Khushi was just getting ready to accept her feelings and her place in Arnav's life. With the introduction of Dadi's chaos in their lives, she will retreat back to her shell once again. Looks like Arnavji has his work cut out for him. 'jis say hum itna pyar kartay hain inhe theek say jaantay bhi nahi hain'. The last few months we have seen Arnav realizing his feelings and getting to understand his Khushi, will this track lead to Khushi understanding her Arnavji? 'Aap aisay kiyon hain?' I don't remember the exact times Khushi has asked this question but the two distinct moments were New Years Eve and just last week outside of Gupta House. Both of the times the answer raised more questions. With the entrance of the Malik, will Khushi be able to figure out why Arnav is ASR, the person and not just the name?

For those wanting a 'redemption' will see this track as their wish granted. I for one disagree, because for me redemption has been well underway for a while. I hope CVs are able to execute this mega drama in a decent manner and get their main point across - For Khushi to understand Arnav, for their love to stand the grueling trials and be victorious and be prepared for the next dhamaka.

Briefly touching on the last scene - lines have been drawn, battle is about to begin. It is between Devyani and Arnav Singh Raizada vs the Maliks and the rest of the family in a supporting role. The terms of the battle have yet to be determined but this is one deal that will cost ASR one way or another.

Points to ponder:
1. Khushi spilling water on Dadi - Will she be the one to get the stick out of Dadi's ass?
2. Aukat - this is what defines the Maliks. Somethings don't change, like Dadi said.
3. Anjali and Dadi conversation - Reassurance from one mother to another. There is more to it.
4. NK - Love you. Will be counting on your support for what's to come.

I generally don't dissect the precap but today's deserves a special mention because of one of my areas of interest: Strategy! I am talking about 4lions strategy to show a seemingly cringe-worthy episode and than completely wash it away with a 34sec precap that has the audience clapping (not me). You get the aunties to tune in tomorrow just for dadi and you get everyone else (internet audience, youngsters, phangurls) to see THE man, ASR. Brilliant! Seems like someone besides ASR has gotten a Harvard brain. It is interesting to see how a precap can rectify an episode, much like the audience wanting a sorry from ASR to rectify all his mistakes. But I am a different kinda gal, a precap doesn't do much for me, neither does a sorry. A thousand sorry to me will fall on my deaf ears, but if someone takes off work early just to spend time with me or make a cup of Early Grey when my nose is running, that stuff counts, that is redemption - much like what ASR was doing but alas! masses want something different. I forever will be a member of the 'show and not tell club'; Docgirl is the leader and my unofficial mentor (she just doesn't know it yet) 😉.

Side note but important:
I get the pressure of TRP and the scheme of being profitable has been giving the PH nightmares but does the solution have to come at the cost of compromising on social values? Was there absolutely no other way to show a stern, firm, egoistic, prejudiced older woman than to bring in the regressive trait of branding someone 'untouchable' and servant? Humanity took another fall today. In this day and age instead of using a powerful medium to promote progressive values we are yet again seeing it is acceptable to belittle another human being. Yeah, yeah I get the whole 'but but... you see dadi will be reformed and all and will see the err in her ways', but the fact is what you showed today! It saddens me to admit that these stereotypes still exist in the society but should they be given such a wide platform to showcase their prejudices, even if it is temporary? Are the cruelties of real life not enough? I never met my dadi but did see a dadi figure with her own nuisances. She would only eat the roti/chappati as soon as it was hot out of the pan, a few seconds delay and the taunts started 😕 never understood why but than what do I know, I survive on microwaveable dinners! The point is there were other ways to show Dadi Malik, in an attempt to pick the 'most likeable by aunties', you also picked the one with most resistance, at least for me. Let's see how long this nautanki lasts. If a show is willing to stoop to this level, there are not enough Rabba-Veys in IPK to keep me around. A not-so-wise man once said 'dekhna hai to dekho'. Little did he know that people might actually consider taking his advice. But the kostin is, kya dekhain? ab to Satymev Jayate bhi khatam ho giya!

As expected not much of ASR today, full focus on Dadi's entry. An episode which appears to be a filler, is much more than that on a second watch. Yes, I watched it again as I gain a different insight when I watch twice and noticed little things I didn't see before

Episode starts with Manorama being a nervous wreck trying to explain to NK and Payal about the kind of person Dadi is, never have I seen Manorama like this before so Dadi must have some effect on her

I liked the scene with Khushi and the flowers, she is really adapting her husband's traits which is cute. Poor Khushi had no idea what she was in for, a day which started off beautifully for her quickly turned into a disaster with Dadi mistaking her for a servant on their first meeting and being a complete snob. Got to love NK for trying to defend Khushi not once but twice, he was the star of this episode

Payal disappointed me, not only did she not defend her sister she foolishly tells her to go and give Dadi milk. Khushi being the eternal optimist hoped to clear the MU and learn more about the man she loves, sadly in the process she forgot her manners and rudely interrupted Dadi praying not good for someone who already has the worst opinion about her. Poor Khushi just can't seem to do anything right in Dadi's eyes and the elopement will only drive a bigger wedge between them.

The next scene leaves you with more questions than answers, Anjali returns home to see Khushi upset and learns Dadi is back. Here's where things get interesting, how did she know Anjali was pregnant without a bump? How does she know about Shyam?? Dadi has promised to set things right and in the end it was a clear case of battle lines being drawn, you have Anjali and Dadi on one side while Manorama, Payal, NK and Khushi are on another. Arnav and Nani are in the middle of it all. Looks like Dadi will be the one responsible for bringing back Shyam.

Precap was good, I look forward to Arnav standing up for Khushi but doubt it will be enough for someone as headstrong as Dadi. Could it be that Dadi will be responsible for a remarriage track?? She certainly was not happy to hear about Arnav eloping, so could it be she sets forward a condition that she won't accept Khushi until he marries her again? Or will it be a clear case of Khushi and Arnav facing more turbulent times with the return of Shyam and having Dadi and Anjali as his pillar of support?? Maybe both.

Ok for an episode that didn't seem worth a take, I ended up writing a lot more than planned! Must mean something about this episode worked to get me talking

Today began the clash of the Titan's...from the Ramayan we jump Ship to the Mahabharat and we restart the Epic story all over again! 😃

Hi Sari and SG's!

Dramatic start to the week, quite a powerful entry for Dadi if you ignore the whole saas bahu crap. Loved Khushi when she was gardening, nurturing Arnav's private world😍; she looked beautiful and loved the tied up hair. What followed was 20 mins of drama to introduce a new strict character and for setting the stage for the next few weeks👎🏼.

"Kabhi kabhi aisa lagta hai - hum jinse itna pyaar karte hain - unke baare mein hum kuch jaante hi nahi hai..." was clearly the dialogue of the day not because Khushi confesses her love for her Arnavji to the walls but because in the coming track Khushi will actually get to know her man; the man behind the mask, the reason behind what changed a happy jovial teenage into the hard hearted cynic he now is and hopefully she will understand him and be his support system and he hers instead of her wanting to run away at every stage due to straining relationships in the family.

I know the first reaction to Dadi is everyone instantly disliked her; while I wish they had kept the saas bahu circus of her repeatedly calling Khushi a servant😡 out of it while the morons at RM stood by watching without voicing that she was wrong; I think she was quite realistic as an old school, wealthy, disciplined small town lady who definitely has the attitude to be ASR's dadi😆😆. A lot of people of that generation come from a high and mighty POV, a strict sense of how things are to be done and who is allowed to breathe the air they do because of their belief in the caste system. While I find her regressive, I understand such people do exist.

Loved NK for atleast making an attempt to clear the air, hated Mami as usual though she seemed pretty panic stricken herself, and well Payal either needs some dialogues and expressions or just keep her out of the scene. Anjali's first reaction when she saw an upset Khushi was of concern; is she really trying to give her the benefit of doubt? The Anjali-Dadi conversation was confusing; Dadi knows about the baby and damadji but has clearly not been in touch with Anjali since the mysterious night 14 years back; ASR said on Friday that he made repeated attempts to contact Dadi; too much confusion, lets see how it all plays out😕.

Loved the precap with ODB finally standing up for his wife in true ASR style👍🏼. Plus there clearly seems to be an upcoming battle with Anjali-Dadi on one side and Arnav-Nani on the other. I've always loved Nani and with Arnav-Nani as a team the clash of the titans can be very interesting.

The overly dramatic display we saw today was 1) to create a filler for Barun's 2 day leave and 2) to make Arnav bitwa look good tomorrow😉.So cheer up people; hopefully come tomorrow we get back to business as usual. For Mishti's spoiler; I think Arnav will not really be mad at Khushi but upset about the whole situation and so Khushi tries to cheer him up. I'll be quite mad if he unnecessarily is angry at Khushi and she manaofies him when we are technically supposed to be in the "Arnav winning Khushi back"track. Love the song though, great possibilities😉.

Hello ladies ,

Hello Ladies!

I liked the episode. Not brillliant but a good indicator of the storm to come.

So dadi aagai, with her Malik ego and aukat dialogues. Sachi mai ASR ki daadi hai.

Nak chari.

With her suitcase full of peetal bartan, one item for one member of the Malik clan.

A glass for Amma Malik, A spoon for Papa Malik, A jug for Bitwa Malik and A plate for Malik Di.

Why does ASR get the jug??? Well he needs something to hide in doesn't he???😉

enough of bakwaas.😆

Khushi gets mistaken as a servant, no one corrects and daadi flashes her dhai kilo wala palm at intervals because her face doesn't have the time to listen to Raizada nonsense.

We all know our Gauti Bhaiya is a satyamev jayate supporter and he brought in the caste issue into the show. Well done, IPK will receive brownie points from TRP dadi for social message.👏

This track will click definitely with some of the 8000 TRP meters. We have a Maha Saas, an aukat issue, a standard bahu and the nayi soch in this is the pati taking a stance for the biwi, aur kya chahiye?

So well done, baaki ka pata nahi but my dad did a little dance at the precap, the same way he dances when bhabho and koki show their love, so this track is right up their sleeve for that kind of audience.

What we got was the battle lines drawn. Nani-ASR vs Dadi-Anji.

I look forward. Good stuff!😃

Aaja piya tohe pyaar doon, gori baiyyaan tope vaar doon.😉

Aur haan. Shukriya for all the Lau Sgs today. Aap sab bohat ache ho!!

Thank you for the wishes, songs, scars, cakes, DP teapots and the VM by Rags. Lau you all AMEZING peeps!🤗

Had made a VM today, lekin my Lappy keeps crashing. So if it goes on before i switch the lappy off. Good. Otherwise i'll try again tomorrow.