A word abt bolly's 'women centric' films

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I found this article really interesting and made quite a few good points...its a bit of a long read, but its quite good...its written by a famous blogger called filmigirl...

source: https://www.filmigirl.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/a-woman-positive-woman-on-womens-issues.html

A Woman Positive Woman on Women's Issues in Film

One of the comments I got on my post on the launch of the Heroine trailer wondered how I could think Madhur Bhandarkar was a misogynist when he had a history of making women-centered films. It's a fair question. A lot of fuss is made in certain corners about how there are no heroine-centered films, so shouldn't a heroine-centered film automatically count as woman-positive? In the case of Madhur Bhandarkar, the answer is an unequivocal no.

To be fair, I haven't seen Chandini Bar but I have seen Page 3 and Fashion. Going back to read my review of Fashion I'm actually kind of embarrassed that I seem to have been impressed with it at the time. I can only chalk it up to a) the Stockholm Syndrome that emerges when watching a film at the theater and wanting to enjoy something because you paid for it and b) my massive crush on Kangana Ranaut. Being a much more experienced film viewer and reviewer than I was in 2008, I can safely say that Madhur Bhandarkar writes women characters who are essentially like Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider- male fantasies of "strong" women.

The Madhur Bhandarkar heroine is one who is put through endless humiliations - sexual and otherwise - for the viewer's pleasure. Sleeping with a black dude? SHOCK! Walking in on her boyfriend getting a blowjob from her gay best friend?! MEGA SHOCK! Having her tits exposed to the world while walking the ramps?!!! WOW SO BOLD! A Bandar-car heroine must be strong if she is going to make it to the end of the film.

Even leaving aside the insulting fact that a dude who has been pretty convincingly accused of rape has claimed the mantle of FEMINIST HERO OF BOLLYWOOD merely for putting a woman at the center of his films, the content of Bhandarkar's films is far from woman-positive. If a "strong woman" is merely strong for sleeping around, wearing revealing outfits, and being a selfish shrew, it's enough to make me want to run to the kitchen, take off my shoes, and start cooking

But I shouldn't just pick on Bhandarkar. This male ideal of the "strong" woman, existing outside normal society as she does, available for sex and not much else, was also the major flaw at the center of The Dirty Picture. Why does the "woman-centered" film always end up with the woman on the outside looking in while the dudes she slept with are off being part of society?

As long as I'm on the subject, how about that Deepika in Cocktail? I haven't seen the film but I have been following the conversation that has emerged around Deepika's character Veronica. Is she a liberated woman for sleeping around and wearing bikinis? Is she a s**t? Is it a positive message for women that she is "reformed" at the end or is it a cop-out to make her give up her partying ways?

I can't say about Veronica but speaking out of my experience of being a woman I can say this - there is nothing inherently "liberating" about wearing bikinis and doing "bold scenes". There is also nothing inherently regressive about wearing bikinis and doing "bold scenes". The actions themselves mean nothing. It's all about the context. Is the bikini a swimsuit or is it straightjacket? Is she wearing a shorts and a tank top because it's hot outside or is she wearing them because she feels obligated to put on a skin show? Is she proud of her body or does she need the outside reinforcement that she is "sexy" and therefore worthwhile as a human being?

Should women all feel obligated to show our skin to the world as a token of our "liberation?" I fully support actresses like Sonakshi who don't want to bother. There's nothing liberating about browbeating a woman into a revealing outfit.

And my last point in this rambling post on woman-power: Rape is not the end of the world for women.

Let me qualify that - Rape is awful. Rape is too often used as a plot device. But rape is not the end of the world.

Many women - myself included - have unfortunately been in situations where "consent" is nebulous but the advances unwelcome. Do you beat yourself up about it? Are you permanently damaged? Or do you put it behind you and live on?

This theme that a woman (or man) can be raped and still live on is one that needs to be put out there more. It's one of the things that really touched me in Satyamev Jayate. Aamir talked to rape victims like they were human beings and not just always eternally victims. This theme was brought up in Kiccha - a lovely film starring Kiccha Sudeep - where he comes across a woman who is pragmatic about her "casting couch" experience as necessary to get a job. He doesn't treat her as a pariah. It's the man who should be shamed. Again in Rowdy Rathore we see a woman get raped and still be treated as a worthwhile human being by her community. She isn't a tragic victim but a person to whom something really awful happened.

THAT is the message we need more of. Yes, rape is awful and the men who do it should be severely punished but the women (and male victims) can live on. Their worth is not diminished by somebody else's actions.

So, what I have covered in my rambles... merely making a woman the center of your film doesn't make it "woman-positive;" wearing a bikini doesn't make you liberated; and rape is horrible and awful to live through but doesn't make the victim worth less as a person.

That's my two cents, anyways - as a woman-positive woman starring in my own woman-centered life. I have yet to wear a bikini, though I do enjoy partying and enacting private bold scenes. I have yet to receive any complaints.

And there is no amount of money that would entice me to work with that sleazoid humanoid Madhur Bhandarkar.

Any discussions?? ur views on how "women centric" films are in bolly? how should they be?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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The best woman centric film which I can state is 'Snehithiye' of Jyothika in tamil. There's nothing like that film!

The thing is why are woman centered film always revolve around rape, sex and abuse etc? B'town should learn to respect woman and stop treating them like sex toys.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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thats so true waisay
imo chak de was an honest women oriented movie! yes there is alot to women than sex, Wonder why every women oriented movie in btown relies on sex.
we still have to see something like sex and the city from bollywood where they show a wider horizon to their personality than being raped or into drugs or sleeping with loads of people!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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She makes a LOT of good points...

but I think she over-read into the term "women-centric"...

In Bollywood, women-centric simply means, a movie where the main character is a woman, and the male characters are simply supporting.

Bollywood is NOT so advanced, that it has started foraying into the different elements that make different women.
We've just about started making movies that don't require muscle-men, iska hi shukkar kar lenge pehle..


it's funny though haha, I remember when Dev.D came out, there were OODLES of articles about how Mahi Gill is such a great representation of the repressed women.
Dev.D was 4 or smething years ago lmao, and about 4 more movies about women have been made in Bwood after that.

Lets give the industry the longass amount of time its gonna require to think more about women 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koiza.k

thats so true waisay

imo chak de was an honest women oriented movie! yes there is alot to women than sex, Wonder why every women oriented movie in btown relies on sex.
we still have to see something like sex and the city from bollywood where they show a wider horizon to their personality than being raped or into drugs or sleeping with loads of people!


Well, there weren't any sex scene in Phir Milengey 🤔

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Posted: 13 years ago
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She does have good points but as @liverach said, this is bollywood. Its main focus is drama not percisely meaningful cinema.

And shes right when she said its not our clothing or lack thereof that make us liberated. Liberation occurs when u open ur mind.
Edited by Enycedoll - 13 years ago

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