Judging Manyata!! Ahh-wise talk ... - Page 2

Very well written post Adden.. indeed its 'wise talk' and you are a very wise young girl.. I read somewhere that you are just 15 years old. But your writing has such a level of maturity which is rare for such a young girl. your parents should be proud of you and if they are not pls tell them that they should be.
You are right! Manyata behaves just like how a normal girl would behave in such situations.. and DEk is not the typical indian show with a goody goody sacrificying Bahu heroine.. all the characters in DEK( including DS, BRIG, GIRI and even J) and the story itself is very unique.. and thats the main reason why many of us like this serial..even the character of Uday in earlier days with all that negative shades, we liked because that made him appear more human.. he was manipulative and selfihs also to an extent but then that is how a person brought up in a world of politics and games by a father like Giri would behave.. but we knew that underneath all that he is a good person and we also saw that he has a heart which can love passionately..so we all liked Uday... Manyata is similar.. she has some bad ( which i would really not say is actually bad) characteristics and many good characteristics.. But unlike Uday most of the time we judge M badly and bash her.. There were few situations in which i also did not like how M behaved ( which i would say are actually execution faults of the story) but over all i can relate very well to Manyata and i think she is very NORMAL and HUMAN and behaves exactly like any NORMAL girl would do in those situations.
And you are v right.. Guilt is what would make M run to Akash( in fact i had written the same thought on a comment on Shamas 27th analysis).guilt of betraying Akash and a still confused mind regarding her feelings towards Uday as well as towards Akash.. and J would add fuel to the fire of her concience of guilt and confusion.and she has to deal with all that on her wedding day (which is a day in every girls life in which emotions run so high and confusion occurs even when they do not have to deal with such complications)..This will make her forget the commitment she made towards Uday and her family and everything and believe in J and run to Akash.. but when she comes to know Akash s real truth it will free her from Akash.. Uday has already freed her . so now free from both sides she will be able to judge for herself, the correct path she should take from the crossroad in which she is staying at the moment..
some are saying that M is playing a game to find out the truth and thats why she goes to meet Akash.. but i dont think that she s playing a game.. she s going with her emotions and she s being true to her character.. and she hasn't still learnt to play politics and games like DS.. yes like someone mentioned on another post, Uday could be playing a game to find out Akash s truth and to make M face that.. so knowing M so well Uday might even be knowing that this is how she will react and he may even go to Mandir to save her.. the reason why Akash would suddenly reveal the truth to M before he can marry her is also a mystery.. so its also possible that M might finally comes to realize the extent of her feelings towards Uday when she is about to get married to Akash and refuse to marry him.. anything is possible and the track is really interesting.. lets see how it unfolds...

Adden very nice take...but I am not convinced...yes we are all imperfect... all of us have flaws and M is like one of us with all those flaws... but i still can not accept M running away due to guilt factor... UV has already freed her and asked for her final decision😲. He told her to inform him before going to Akash so that he doesnt have to wait in Mandap...Even after being freed and sending VB to know about her final call... if she has to run away without informing him... I did say its height of foolishness or behavioural inconsistency...😆. Even a 5 year kid understands such simple instruction😆... I just feel sad...coz if she had made A one promise... she had made many promises to UV and others too... which she so far never had fulfilled...I would have appreciated the whole scene of M choosing UV over A on some other day... but not dumping UV on marriage day and running back to him just coz her first love turned sour and she is opting for the second love already dumped by her to accept her back... Its cheap...Infact I feel that she shouldnt marry UV too coz she lost that right...😡. Sorry no offense to anybody...

Originally posted by: rmry

Adden very nice take...but I am not convinced...yes we are all imperfect... all of us have flaws and M is like one of us with all those flaws... but i still can not accept M running away due to guilt factor... UV has already freed her and asked for her final decision😲. He told her to inform him before going to Akash so that he doesnt have to wait in Mandap...Even after being freed and sending VB to know about her final call... if she has to run away without informing him... I did say its height of foolishness or behavioural inconsistency...😆. Even a 5 year kid understands such simple instruction😆... I just feel sad...coz if she had made A one promise... she had made many promises to UV and others too... which she so far never had fulfilled...I would have appreciated the whole scene of M choosing UV over A on some other day... but not dumping UV on marriage day and running back to him just coz her first love turned sour and she is opting for the second love already dumped by her to accept her back... Its cheap...Infact I feel that she shouldnt marry UV too coz she lost that right...😡. Sorry no offense to anybody...

I feel that UV should leave without marrying any of the sisters giving their house back to them... and M has to win him back which could become future track with A becoming all evil...😉

I totally agree!She has made several promises to her family and Uday on behalf of her ill dadi saa. If she feels guilty, it should be for her family and Uday as well. As for Akash, I think she is just acting out of impulse. But since she is a yuvrani now, she should think before she reacts. I feel sorry for Vijay bhai, whose training and hard work for Manyata has literally gone down the drains as Manyata still hasn't learned anything. If Uday told her there's no pressure on her and that he will explain everything to her family, then she should at least let him know of her decision in advance before the guests come in and he faces any humiliation. If Uday can care so much about your honour and happiness, then you should at least have some respect for him and tell him about your decision before taking a drastic step. After going through SO MUCH, Uday does not deserve any more deception or humiliation coming from Manyata. Besides, if she really is behaving like a normal girl, why would she trust Jaynandini? I mean if I were in her position, I wouldn't have trusted someone who has tried to kill me several times. A normal person is able to learn from his/her past mistakes which Manyata unfortunately cannot. She knows that running from the marriage without telling Uday about her final decision can lead to disastrous consequences, but still she decides to put all her weight on J so that she can have the time of her life?😕If she really felt guilty, I don't think she would have happily gone to that auction all dressed up, and that too after coming to know that Akash is dead. Secondly, she wouldn't have proposed to Uday and asked him to get engaged to her in two days or so, go shopping with him and then joke around with him at the shopping mall. If she was guilty for akash, why was she so happy at the mall? After finding out that Akash is still alive, she goes around hugging and convincing him that he is her Akash and even shows him the heels. If she had any iota of guilt for getting engaged to Uday, she would have at least shown some signs of reluctance or embarrassment before going after Akash i.e "How can I face him and ask him to be my old akash when I have deceived him by getting engaged to Uday?" If the cvs wanted to show the guilt factor in action, then they should have at least shown some scenes where Manyata is having a self talk and she confesses that she feels guilty to go back and face Akash as she has in a way betrayed him. They showed Uday suffering from guilt after the cliff incident, but they never did the same for Manyata. If not a self talk, then guilt should at least be reflected by her actions and behaviour, which is unfortunately not the case here. The reasons why I can't connect with Manyata are:

great post...true,...she is real good and bad version but better than some of those tv martyrs...that are too fake and unreal...she is wacko and some days you feel like bashing her head and shaking her to reality saying "are you stupid to not see UV for the gem he is ...also another devil when he wants to be but his heart is in the right place...but then when you look at those divas like toasty who are competing for sainthood and too good to be real...she is like a breath of fresh air...sometimes pleasant sometimes putrid...but real! and not those sweet cloying air fresheners !

Originally posted by: rabees011

I totally agree!She has made several promises to her family and Uday on behalf of her ill dadi saa. If she feels guilty, it should be for her family and Uday as well. As for Akash, I think she is just acting out of impulse. But since she is a yuvrani now, she should think before she reacts. I feel sorry for Vijay bhai, whose training and hard work for Manyata has literally gone down the drains as Manyata still hasn't learned anything. If Uday told her there's no pressure on her and that he will explain everything to her family, then she should at least let him know of her decision in advance before the guests come in and he faces any humiliation. If Uday can care so much about your honour and happiness, then you should at least have some respect for him and tell him about your decision before taking a drastic step. After going through SO MUCH, Uday does not deserve any more deception or humiliation coming from Manyata. Besides, if she really is behaving like a normal girl, why would she trust Jaynandini? I mean if I were in her position, I wouldn't have trusted someone who has tried to kill me several times. A normal person is able to learn from his/her past mistakes which Manyata unfortunately cannot. She knows that running from the marriage without telling Uday about her final decision can lead to disastrous consequences, but still she decides to put all her weight on J so that she can have the time of her life?😕If she really felt guilty, I don't think she would have happily gone to that auction all dressed up, and that too after coming to know that Akash is dead. Secondly, she wouldn't have proposed to Uday and asked him to get engaged to her in two days or so, go shopping with him and then joke around with him at the shopping mall. If she was guilty for akash, why was she so happy at the mall? After finding out that Akash is still alive, she goes around hugging and convincing him that he is her Akash and even shows him the heels. If she had any iota of guilt for getting engaged to Uday, she would have at least shown some signs of reluctance or embarrassment before going after Akash i.e "How can I face him and ask him to be my old akash when I have deceived him by getting engaged to Uday?" If the cvs wanted to show the guilt factor in action, then they should have at least shown some scenes where Manyata is having a self talk and she confesses that she feels guilty to go back and face Akash as she has in a way betrayed him. They showed Uday suffering from guilt after the cliff incident, but they never did the same for Manyata. If not a self talk, then guilt should at least be reflected by her actions and behaviour, which is unfortunately not the case here. The reasons why I can't connect with Manyata are:

1) She readily falls for a guy she has known for a week just because he took her out on a Mumbai tour and gifted her expensive heels in two days. If a guy had given me such an expensive gift on the second or third day of our meeting, I would think there is something fishy. Maybe he has gotten the wrong message or something and before he misinterprets my friendliness any further, I should start maintaining a safe distance from him.

2) After seperating her from her chawl life, she cries her eye balls out for a guy she has known for only a week, but she refuses to go back to the man who has raised her for 16 years. If she can get over Murari, why can't she get over Akash? I was expecting Manyata to actually fight for Murari to give him justice and then ask the royals to forgive him for what he had done 16 years ago, as he was her baba who raised her since 16 years.

3) She trusts those she wants to trust, even though other people who are actually trustworthy have shown their loyalty towards her and done things to win her trust--to show that they really are trustworthy. Despite all that, she trusts those who have done nothing but harmed her left right center.

4) She always makes promises to get things done her way, and as soon as she is done she goes back to square one and becomes hellbent on breaking those promises as they mean nothing to her. If you think you are not sure if you can fulfill them or not, then don't make such promises in the first place regardless of the situation. It will only complicate things further and make you look like a backstabber. Make only promises that are within your capacity .i.e promises that you can actually fulfill.

5) She has shown immense trust in her Akash and chawl people, but she has never shown an iota of shame. If a normal girl was humiliated by the media several times, in front of the chawl people (akash's mom and amma), in front of her own family, Uday's family, and in front of her maids sooo many times, wouldn't she feel some shame to humiliate her family once again by running away and that too on the day of her wedding? I mean I can understand that she doesn't have strong feelings for her family as she wasn't raised by them, but if these people do so much for you, then you should at least refrain from causing them further humiliation for the sake of humanity, right? It's inhumane if you still treat them like your doormat.

If Manyata runs away to tell Akash that she wants a final closure from her past, then I am ok with that. BUT she should have told Uday about her decision of getting a final closure from the past by meeting Akash one last time, before putting all her weight on Jaynandini |(an attempted murderer and backstabber) and running to her Akash, as this will make her look like a backstabber to Uday and her family members. She knows J isn't trsustworthy, then why does she trust her so blindly? Since Uday has given her the freedom to decide, he should be the first one to know where she is running off to and why (even if it means telling him about her decision of meeting Akash to get a final closure from the past). But the precap made it seem as if she was about to deceive Uday without telling him about her final decision so that she can marry akash at the mandir. Now if someone doesn't come to her resue and tell her in explicit words about akash's plan, I am sure she would marry akash without feeling any guilt for breaking her family's and Uday's trust. Manyata has the eyes and the brain to analyze that Akash is planning revenge and is not trustworthy. She can see that when she is around, he goes and hugs Tara and sweet talks her. The next moment when she disappears, Akash calls her up to tell her that he still loves her and wants to run with her? If he still loves her and is worthy of her trust, why did he get engaged to Tara in the first place? Why is he plotting against her family by joining hands with their so called dushman Chowdhury? Why is he giving Tara false hopes if he actually loves her? Why is he two-timing with them (Tara and manyata)? Shouldn't a normal girl refuse to trust such a guy if she sees him two timing?😕 This is why I feel Manyata does not desrve Uday and no one can connect with her as reflected by the trps of this show. I mean it's ok to have flaws, but the flaws shouldn't be sooo deadly that they start to outweigh the goodness of the main lead, leading to an outburst of hatred and dislike for her from the audience. Cvs should at least make her likeable and likeable doesn't equal a sati savitri tv bahu. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I am not convinced that Manyata behaves like a normal girl and that's why I am not able to connect with her. She is way too inconsistent to be considered normal in my dictionary at least. 😊

I feel the cvs are more abnormal than Manyata and they better show her acting with MATURITY in future so that she at least becomes likeable, if they KNOW what MATURITY means.

Anyways, it was a very nice take Adden. Really enjoyed reading your post.😛