12/6 Dragon Club: Birthday Manao Andolan!

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I think it is really interesting how they are bringing out the similarities and differences between Aarti and Yash in exploring his story, following hers and so I would like to base my analysis on that comparison and contrast today. How similar and different have the journeys been that got AarYa to this point? Now that we have the truth about Arpita's death, we can finally undertake this comparison.

Losing a Spouse

Similarities: Both Yash and Aarti blame themselves to an extent for the loss of their first spouses. Because the story chose to focus on Aarti first, we have seen her progress further than Yash at this stage but she too felt the oppressive burden of Prashant's abandonment and contemplated her own role in it. This was especially apparent when Yash sent the divorce papers and she asked Shobha what was wrong with her that she couldn't prove to be a good wife for the second time. Even though she claims closure from Prashant now, his final unmasking of his true colours last week, has left her deeply insecure about her own judgment and in a hurry to legitimise her life with Yash so she can forget about what happened with Prashant. Yash also seems to hold himself accountable for the death of Arpita to some extent, which is why he tells Aarti that there are some things you don't share, even with yourself. What Aarti is doing now with Prashant, locking him in a corner of her heart and denying him, is what Yash has been doing all these years. Both of them need to realise that locking your past away does not make it disappear, it only makes it all the more painful when it rears its head, the way it did for Aarti last week and Yash today. They have to face that corner of their hearts in order to move on.


Differences: Aarti went from vowing to love Prashant for eternity to shutting him out completely. This suits her as she is a character of extremes; what she does, she does all the way. Yash on the other hand has found a different medium to deny his most painful past. While Aarti repeatedly remembered the day Prashant left her, trying to find something she could have done differently to make him stay, until the recent confrontation, Yash blocks everything out of his memories of Arpita that is not pure joy and love. Yash finds it harder to come out of his haze than Aarti, not because his love is stronger or because Arpita was better, but because he has a much more stable method of denial, one that sustains him in a relationship with his deceased spouse. He has a system, while Aarti runs with her emotions. She cannot systematically manage her memories the way that Yash seems to be able to and so she swings from one end to another, now remembering a tender moment with Prashant, now replaying his abandonment.

Parenting their Own After Losing their Spouse

Similarities: I found it really touching that Yash too used to help Palak write letters to her mother after she had passed away. I am sure this helped Palak retain the connection with her mother and not feel so suddenly alone. It makes me wonder though, if Yash drifted further and further away from the girls when the wound of Arpita's death became less raw, or at least as time passed on. Maybe the family did not let him manage them as much once their schedules went back to normal. Ansh too wrote letters to his absent father, asking for things. I said this then and I will say it again that Ansh may have wanted the things in the short term but really he wanted to feel the presence of the father he missed in his life. It is so similar with Palak who was not ready to let her mother go, so Yash kept the fairy tale alive for her a little while longer.

Differences: The fairy tale ended for Palak, as she mentioned a few days ago, when her grandmother told her that her mother was with god and never coming back. The child has been forced to deal with the loss of her mother like an adult, with nothing hidden from her and nothing sugar coated for her emotional well-being. She has been left to grapple with her guilt all by herself. Secondly, while Yash helped her write those letters, he never actually got the things that they asked for, never tried to fill the void that Arpita left. Given that Palak is so young, was it really necessary to end the fantasy of her mother reading her letters so soon? Is this the effect of Yash's environment where he, first would consider it sacrilege to act in Arpita's name and then was distanced from his daughters and no longer allowed to indulge their little coping mechanisms? Aarti on the other hand, took it upon herself to actually fulfill the wishes in Ansh's letters. The obvious drawback would have been when the illusion shattered in a few years, but for now it kept Ansh innocent and faithful, gave him a generally positive feeling towards the idea of a father and never let him feel the pangs of abandonment. Palak chooses not to celebrate her birthday because she thinks that would be an insult to her mother. Would it have been so hard to tell her that her mother is looking down at her and nothing would make her happier than to see Palak happy on her birthday? Because it is clearly true!

Parenting the Other's Child(ren) & Letting the Other Parent Yours

Similarities:
Sincerity. Both Yash and Aarti want to be good parents because they know that is why they have gone through with this marriage. But they both seem to make the same mistake of charging forth with not enough information. Yash, without knowing how Ansh has been brought up, shouts at him at the table and injures his little ego, he gets him the wrong toys because he does not know what to get a boy and he forces him to go to school against his will. Aarti, not knowing Palak's traumatic past made herself an invasive presence, simply by not acting with respect to Palak's grief. They also allow their issues to come between the new parents and kids a lot of the time. For Aarti, it was her lack of trust and for Yash it is his reluctance to share his pain about Arpita. Today, Aarti was asking as Palak's mother and the bahu of this house, in the present. She really had no interest in Yash's past except as it was relevant to the present. And he made it all about himself. It was not really either of their faults, but they have made mistakes aplenty because they refuse to share with each other until issues come to a head. But their sincerity is such that they find the right path in the end and fulfill it with all their hearts.


Differences: Aarti has created a much more conducive environment for the Yash-Ansh bond to grow than Yash has created for Palak-Payal and Aarti and the sad part is that Yash gets all of the credit, even from Aarti for this. From the beginning, Aarti gave Yash full rights to win over Ansh's heart because she wanted that. Yash on the other hand, seems unsure about what he wants from Aarti as a mother. Whenever she asks him for responsibility he refuses flat out but gets all gooey-eyed whenever she combs their hair or cleans their room. It is as though he wants Aarti and Arpita to co-exist as mothers for the children, with Aarti managing the physical and Arpita remaining their emotional mother. Without asking Aarti, Yash switches Ansh's school and it leads to the whole kidnap drama. Yash went into that situation smelling like roses and he came out likewise because he is a man. On the other hand, if Aarti goes ahead and forces this birthday thing and it blows up in her face, she will be blamed entirely. Although they are both doing the same thing essentially, the results will be different because of the gender dynamics of the Scindia family.

But I do hope that this is a chance for Aarti to break into Palak's head and heart and make a place there. When Arpita passed away, Palak was left waiting for that love, security and that happiness to return to her life. When it did not come back to her she stopped eating and went into deep depression, from which she only came out to survive and function. She had to pick herself up in the best way she could, but her wounds never really healed. It would be an interesting loop closure if the birthday party gives her a similar shock, she falls ill but this time Aarti is there to nurse her and give her comfort, with her words and with her empathy, having been through a similar loss. Palak would then truly heal from that illness she had so long ago. And Palak's healing would be the beginning of Yash's own, just as the protection of Ansh's faith by Yash was the rebirth of Aarti's own.
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Aww Poor Palak 😭 🤗

I'm glad that Aarti didn't let the matter of "we don't celebrate bdays" go and that when to the one person she knew would tell her the truth...Pratik 👏 I really love their relationship 😃

OMG so Arpita died because of her recklessness and Yash is feeling GUILTY no wonder the poor guy is trying so damn hard to keep her alive in his mind as well as in his heart but i still think he should get over his guilt for one min and lot at how unhappy his daughter is...I really hope he wakes up soon cause that little girl is in so much pain and the only way she knows how to express it is by lashing out at Aarti 🥺

So most of us were right when we said that Arpita died on Palak's bday but i've gotta feeling that a bigger storm is heading our way <_<

Precap: I love Aarti's enthuiasm but i don't think her planning a party gonna go over well with Yash or the Seniors Scindias 😔 but i have faith in her that she'll do anything to see her smile on her bday even if that means going against everyone ❤️
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One thing that disturbs me with today's episode is how can a 3 year be held responsible for her mother's death. How can the CV's focus on this and have Palak even think about this, did she really have that good of a memory at that age!
I blame the elders of the house that
she gets this way
Totally sad!


25TH June, why is this so important...remember I said something has to happen on this day since they declared as code for his locker!

Now, will this day be double wammy for Yash, will he find out that Aarti is a divorcee on this day only?

Hmmm, just wondering!


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Edited by 49erFan - 13 years ago
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Today's episode solved one of the biggest mystry and that is Arpita's death ..If last week we saw Prashant's abstract death in the hands of Shobha and Aarti , then this week we witnessed the reality of Arpita's real death in the hands of destiny but Yash feels mayb he is the one who is responsible for it
Yash and Aarti's past ...What an irony ...
Last week Shobha and Aarti were more than happy to kill Prashant in a abstract way and perform his last rites since he was a curse to Aarti's present and so after killing the unwanted past , Aarti felt all relieved 😊
This week we saw the mystry behind Arpita's death and unfortunately she died in an accident for which Yash feels he is partially responsible and feels restless over the loss even today wishing she was alive 😭😭...
So while Arpita's death becomes a curse for Yash's present , Prashant being alive was a curse for Aarti's present ...Yash feels restless after Arpita's death while Aarti feels at peace after killing Prashant in her mind and heart ...
Yash repents after seeing Arpita die in front of his own eyes while Aarti feels relieved after seeing Shobha perform the last rites of Prashant in front of her own eyes 😊
Pratik was right ..both hv a similar past ...but there is a big irnoy ...Yash's past made him weak because of his inner guilt and trauma while Aarti's past made her strong because of her nonstop fight against injustice ...Yash needs Aarti to get him out of this guilt and trauma so that he can live a normal happy life which he deserves while Aarti needs Yash to give her the much needed love and respect as a woman which she deserves
Today's Episode clears out two important doubts about Yash's obsession for Arpita and also what Aarti meant when she decided to take "Arpita ki jagah" 😳
Now we know why Yash is so obsessed over Arpita ...its obvious that he feels guilty of Arpita's death ..the way Arpita died , even though was just an accident but he feels he killed her because his car just stops in front of Arpita's car which resulted in her car getting banged to a tree and also he was on mobile which was another distraction for Arpita ..So he feels he is partially responsible for her death and thats why he wants to keep her alive forever in his memories out of his sheer guilt and trauma
We also know what Aarti really meant when she decided to take Arpita's place (Arpita ki jagah) ...its clear that Aarti will take Arpita's place to give back Palak's mother on Palak's birthday when as a mother of Palak she will bring the cake for her for which Palak has been waiting for last 4 yrs 😭😭...Aarti will take the place of a mother in Palak's life in real sense on her birthday and thats what she meant when she decides to take Arpita's place 😊...The fact that Aarti goes on to revolt against everyone to make sure Palak celebrates her birthday so that she can b freed from her guilt trip is a real proof that Aarti no way has lost her identity since only Aarti can take such a bold decision 😊...So she has indeed taken Arpita's place in Palak's life as a mother but has not lost the identity of Aarti 😳
Rest it remains to b seen how Aarti can free Yash out of Arpita guilt since its clear that more than love ,its his guilt which is holding back Arpita's memories and he is forcing himself to remain in Arpita paradise forever since he feels thats the only way he can keep Arpita alive who died because of his fault ...this is his belief ...Mayb just how Aarti plans to release Palak from this guilt by celebrating her birthday and fulfilling her wishes as a mother , same way Aarti will hv to do something to release Yash too from his Arpita guilt trip by making him realise that it was just an accident which was destined to happen and so he is nowhere at fault 😊
Aarti should go ahead with the birthday party but make sure Palak is convinced 😊
I feel Yash is going through both the trauma of seeing Arpita die in front of his eyes as well a certain guilt because her car collides with the tree only when she tries to put brakes after seeing Yash's car in front ......So its trauma+guilt which made him a bit insensitive and indifferent towards the needs or emotions of his kids 🤔...
In this scenario even if Aarti tries to convince Yash for the birthday party , he will give a direct NO because he is too immersed in his own trauma and guilt trip to notice the pain and trauma of his own kid Palak ...So unless Aarti shows him a live demonstration of how Palak's happiness can b brought back by celebrating her birthday on this day ,Yash will not understand and thats why I feel its important that Aarti goes ahead with the birthday party without telling Yash 😊..Let Yash witness how a small birthday party can bring a smile on Palak's face and let him realise that just because his wife died , his duty as a father does not stop and what Aarti did today as a mother , he should hv done the same as a father long back 😳...
But hving said that ,I hope while planning this birthday party ,Aarti first tries to convince Palak for this party since she holds the key to this party and if its done for Palak's happiness to free her from the guilt , then its important she gives a YES for this party 😊
The Bridge makes its entry again
It was the same bridge where Ansh cried in Aarti's lap wanting to go back to Dubey house , it was same bridge where later Yash-Ansh bonded over hoo-haa fight , it was same bridge where Yash made Palak realise never to tell any lie about her studies , it is same bridge where Aarti today finds out the reason why Palak's birthday is never celebrated in the house 😭...
A bridge which is truely definitely the journey and discovery of AarYa and their kids 😳..
Overall it was an episode of discovery and clearance of many doubts ...a very touching one indeed 👏👏👏😳
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Oh God! So the whole back story of Arpita's death was revealed today. And Arpita's car seems to have swerved fatally due to Yash's car that awful night! No wonder this man has completely plastered his room walls with Arpita's photos and is constantly grieving her death with the sorrow of a sinner! He has made his room and his life a shrine for Arpita out of self-accusatory guilt!

In shooting and editing terms the rainy night scene was not so well-produced, and the sequences between Yash talking to Arpita and Arpita talking to Yash seemed disjointed as if they had been shot separately and with unequal voice quality. But nevertheless, it was a powerful idea, I suppose, to make Arpita die at the hands of Yash! It explains a lot about his actions and reactions.

I now wonder what exactly happened in the aftermath of that crash. Even if the accident victim was the wife of the man in the other car, a fatal crash must have had legal consequences for Yash. I wonder if the Creatives will go into the legalities of what happened ' or whether they will just say it was a freakish accident in the rain which could not prove conclusively that Yash's car was the cause of the crash, and so there may not have been a police investigation that nailed Yash legally. But still he has retained the memory that he was the cause of the crash in which Arpita died, and so the story perhaps becomes one of not just memories of his wife, but nightmares of the way she died at his own hands.

I have three questions in my mind today:

Should the the whole family be nurturing this conspiracy to make "Palak's birthday" a forbidden subject, a taboo?

What a strange thing it is for the whole family to try and brush the horrible tragedy of Palak's birthday four years ago under the carpet and pretend the day does not exist on the calendar. The poor little girl is now being forced to somehow accept part-blame for her mother's tragic death. It is as if it is not enough that Yash blames himself for Arpita's death. Now Palak too obviously carries the heavy burden of guilt that it was her birthday that sent her mother out for a cake which she never brought home.

People like Vidhi and Gayatri ' and even to an extent Pratik ' show an inability as grown adults to process the truth of what happened on that fateful night. How can a small child then erase the self-hate and guilt? It is no wonder that Palak is so affected by Aarti taking her mother's place. In the real world, we would have said the whole family should have been enrolled for therapy. The children especially are bearing the brunt of the wrong decisions made by the adults to "shut the day out". Pratik is wrong in telling Aarti that Palak herself does not want to celebrate her birthday. How can a small child make decisions such as these? The child is taking her cues from the adults ' her father, her grandparents - and this whole "conspiracy of silence" is being foisted upon her. Palak really has no choice but to carry a burden too big for her small shoulders.

Two, should Aarti have desperately tried to dig up the mystery that was plainly hurting everybody?

I have a bone to pick with Aarti today. I did not think it was the right thing for her to do to directly confront the children with the topic of the birthday, if it was indeed a sensitive subject. When Vidhi warned her many times not to even contemplate celebrating the birthday of Palak, how can Aarti find it to be OK to try and broach the topic with the kids in their bedroom? Aarti's curiosity seemed to get the better of her, but that is not an excuse. She simply should not have frontally brought up a topic with the potential to hurt Palak. Later Aarti decides to ask Yash, and getting no suitable answers from him, she then asks Pratik. Asking the adults was OK, but not the kids.

I find myself also asking one secondary question here. OK maybe Aarti did get carried away by severe curiosity as she went from pillar to post trying to ferret out the mystery behind not celebrating Palak's birthday. Maybe some of her actions were not quite right or her sensitivity was not at its best. Even so, did she do right from a macro viewpoint? Did her curiosity create an opportunity for the truth to be exposed so it could be healed. I have to answer that with a "Maybe or maybe not". I cannot honestly say Aarti's good samaritan moves to unearth the truth are going to have only good consequences. She has raked a lot of raw pain in Yash and Palak. Yash and Palak are not merely grieving for a loss, they are doing penance for a guilt as well. See how Yash tells her "Some things are too personal. I have not raked up your past, so why do you try to know mine?" Who knows how deep their wounds already are, and how much more they are lacerated by Aarti's insensitive digging?!

Three, should Aarti now defy all odds to somehow "convert" the family's "forgettable" day into a "memorable one"?

Aarti seems hell bent on now helping this hurt family to find its sense of wholeness again. But what is her plan of action? The precap does not give away much, except that she is somehow going to have some sort of eventful birthday for Palak. I have a point to make here: Aarti is not a trained psychiatrist. Her rough and ready "methods" of converting a forgettable day into a memorable one may not be scientific or even dependable. At best she looks like she is going to go ahead with a crazy experiment that can either be hugely successful or make the situation in the family a hundred times worse. In real life such drastic moves have to be taken with great precaution. But I suppose in a TV serial Aarti has the license to go hammer and tongs at it all and come out as a successful queen.

I wonder what Aarti's methods are going to be and how it may all turn out to be a success. The implementation of her plan has already met a roadblock in Gayatri, in the precap. I am personally very vested in knowing what her methods are going to be, because I hope whatever she does is at least realistic. I would find it very odd if she used very amateurish ways to solve what seems like a major family tragedy that has deeply scarred people. Even if its only a serial, I would prefer that Aarti has a genuine brainwave that would also work in real life.

Edited by skanda12 - 13 years ago
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Finally the secret of arpita's death out

ARPITA
i feel arpita was similar to aarti in many manners like she is overexited when it come to her kids and nothing in this world can stop her from bringing happiness to her kids.
coming to the analysis of relationships of aarti ansh with scindia family members in today's episode .
G3
I liked the happiness in aarti's eyes when she got to know from vidhi that gayathri was happy for the first time in seeing her as bahu.This shows that G3 is not as evil as bua as long as she sees that yash and paylak happy with aarti. One more thing to notice is she is not having any problems with ansh these days.Last but not least she called aarti as bahu(in precap) that means she started accepting her.
ANSH
I liked theway aarti asked ansh to care of his sisters and ansh accepting it as this means he accepted them as his sisters.
YASH
I liked the way yash controlled is anger when aarti was repeatedly asking yash for the reason.(eventhough aarti was ignorant she reminded yash about arpita's death).
and one more thing is yash doesnot care about aarti's past and is neither intrested in it.So yash will not have a problem of aarti being divorcee nor will ask her why she hid this truth to him as he himself was not intrested in knowing her past.
PRATEEK
As we all know that the aarti's first friend in scindia family is prateek and she goes to prateek without a second thought and extracts the truth from prateek.Thus aarti has devloped a very good relationship with her devar.
VIDHI
I liked the way vidhi was exited to have the party along with aarti and forgot for a second that they cannot celebrate her birthday.
but i didnt understand the reason why she couldnt tell her the reason. Anyways nice bonding betn them and i think her next friend in scindia house after prateek.
overall a nice episode
hope aarti could bring them out of this trauma.
my writing is poor please bare with it.do comment on my mistakes so that i could correct my mistakes
Edited by hima1991 - 13 years ago
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yipeee... finally.. my name is in DCian list... thanks Samana... thanks Jyo.. thanks everyone 🤗
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while putting kids to sleep Aarti asks Palak when is her bday and Palak gets very angry n starts shrieking that she does not celebrate her bday like other kids n throws her soft toy on Aarti with anger😭

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