Lets Question TAI KA TASHAN

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Some disturbing questions for and about kala, plz do answer them for me

1) One thing that was shown in the beginning of the show was that kala loved a luxurious and powerful life for which she used dutta as much as she could because he wasn't her real brother, initially there was no hatred in her eyes for him, she only saw him as a money making machine , her prime focus was only to see that all his power was enjoyed by her and for that she didn't even wish him to settle down , fearing that in future he might pass on his property to his heirs, now my question is would she'd still risked dutta's life had he been her real brother , for the moment I am ignoring the fact that dutta's father had killed her father because that was disclosed quite later something even roops n leela weren't aware of but still supported kala in her plans.

2) Although kala rarely cared about dutta's life but again initially I felt that deep down she didn't want him to be killed, I am saying this because there was a scene where his helicopter had crashed and Baaji told that dutta was no more at that point of time even kala was a bit shaken up maybe she felt that this was an end to her comfortable life or probably she knew that no one could handle patil vadi the way dutta did including herself otherwise she would have planned to eliminate him in the beginning itself so was the story line changed and her character was made more negative to show her all of a sudden desperation to kill dutta and take over patil vadi because in the beginning she was quite laid back, what m trying to say is if she hated him so deeply and was so eager to have patil vadi in her hands then why didn't she go all out in the beginning itself, what was she waiting for?

3) Kala had attempted to get supriya killed many a times so what would have happened had she succeeded in doing so? Would supriya's death instead of her elopement have a positive impact on tasha's story? how would have they come closer? May be dutta would have leaned on nakku's shoulder to cry on and that would have been disastrous for kala

4) Kala always blackmailed kishore that she would harm their son if he disclosed her real self before dutta. Do u think she would have really harmed her son, was she that blind ? I remember she once tried to push her son out of the balcony but still .. and one more thing how and why did she marry kishore, the cv's should have thrown some light on that aspect as well.

5) In spite of being so clever and cunning what was the need for her to disclose her true intentions before nakku post FR and that too on her own? And nakku who knew that she was after dutta's life why did she tell kala that dutta was alive after the accident? I mean how could these both ladies act so dumb?

6) Okay on a lighter note, what did kala love more, her red lipstick or lashing out at sudarshan? I would say lashing out at him with her dark red lips.

After having such a serious question answer round lets move on to something light, something that will bring a smile on our faces.

So here's presenting TAI KA TASHAN by none other than Rose_petal aka Mimi. It's a must read because m dead sure u will have loads of fun.


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Hi Everyone!

Guess who I've had the pleasure of receiving a letter from? The beautiful and stylish Kalavati Tai! Yep, what a privilege I tell you. She even sent us a photo collage of herself to be used as our profile picture and/or part of our signatures. Such a big heart, don't say?

Okay, I can sense you all gathering tomatoes from your kitchens and taking off your chappals, so no more joking – just serious business. I'd like you to please spare a few minutes (even though you would rather not) on describing Kala in life after LTL. Describe the life you see fit for her, not whatever the show's creators might have showed when it went off air. How do you think she is? Where does she live? What does her hair look like now? Does she have a husband/boyfriend? Anything you imagine for her…share it here!

And since some of you are probably screaming to see your Kala Tai's letter, I won't be greedy. Here it is:



And here is everyone's gift for taking a peek at this post...😆



Oh, just look at those gargantuan earrings...the artwork and crimped hair...the lipstick and wispy bangs...and poor little Goldilocks before she got beheaded! 🤣 Have to give it up for Kala's sense of style and her quirks! Ah, I can just hear it in my head: Jo bhala na samjhe bhura na samjhe woh Kalavati kya samajh payega! Oh, God...that can't be good, can it? 🤪

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Rose great and interesting questions. 😃

To your first one...I think...even if Dutta was her real brother...and if she felt she could not control him anymore...she would have no problem in risking his life.

2. I think Kala was suppose to be a negative character...she went after Dutta to kill him because Damoder's dead did not satisfied her.

After Dutta speak agains her...she went after him to kill him too...she had lost Dutta to Naku...and as I said her relationship with Dutta was very twisted...she love to hate him...if she could not have him then Naku could not either.

3. Maybe if Supriya had not been in the picture...Dutta would not have realize that he can love and be loved again. The hopes and dreams that was awaken slowly during Supriya track...would maybe not have been awaken so soon.

4. Kala would not harm her child...she knew Dutta would save his son...she knew how to control Kishoor and make him not tell the true about her.

She was just using her son...like she used everyone else.

5. Kala told Nakku...because she had confidence that she was already a winner...and playing a game where she could watch Nakku feeling helpless...was what Kala loved most.

Kishoor knew the true about her too...she love the feeling that no one could touch her...even if they knew the true.

The game just became more fun and interesting.

About Nakku...well doing this time the writers and directors made many mistakes and this was dump...because Dutta did tell her not to tell anyone. 😒

6. Defiantly lashing at Surdarshan. 😆

The last part was really funny...😆

Where Kala would be...I think back in the PW with Dutta and everyone. Whatever happen Dutta will always bring her back and try to safe her from herself.

Edited by Ani_98 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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1. Kala always hated dutta. obvious from the vicious pleasure she took in his pain during supriya track. but had he been her own brother would she have hated him. NO! but she would have loved to own him. and yearn to be his sole priority. Her prized possession for being the man he was.She was way too much in love with herself to love anyone else.
2. She hated him too much to want him dead. she would rather take pleasure in making his life miserable. she loved her life and comforts and wanted him to be alive for that. but the moment naku became his priority, the moment she lost control on him she wanted to kill him. she would rather break her doll that let anyone else play with it.
3. knowing the gadha that our dutta was it probably would have taken him an eternity to realize his love for naku. and knowing apni mahaan naku she would have never told him about her love. a very slow love story that would be.😆

4. she says there that she would not have harmed anay. but then what a horrid mother who would not care about the trauma for the kid just to meet her ends.

kala would have wanted to marry extremes.
a man replica of Dutta in power, charisma and ruler.
or someone exactly opposite so that she can lord over him and stay at patil wadi close to dutta..
she didn't get that powerful man so she settled for second option selected by AS.
5. she is one megalomaniac who wanted audience. scared, repulsed, appalled but attentive audience. be it kishore or naku. even AS in the end.
kala is not dumb just too confident. naku was too confident in her faith that her husband cant be harmed now and that her faith has won.
6. 😆😆😆. thank god we were spared that horror.
great questions rosie. and mimi.. what a rofl letter. we sure she keep it in diary safely. apni tai saheb's priceless signiture.😭 khushi ke aasu..
i am soo glad she is happy and having time of her life😃..
👏⭐️ grea job gals.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hi,Rosie .. great post. Thank you.. so further questions? ... me attemping to give quick answers..

1. Had he been her real brother? well I don't think she would have gone for his throat then, hummh , blood is thicker than water ,and khoon khoon he hota hai, are common sayings that come to mind... plus, I know she is ruthless and cold blooded, again sayings like, "apne maa ko bhi nehi choora us Kala na", comes to mind.. but I suspect she would put the thought of killing or making arrangements for his killing , on the back boiler, due to the implicated truama her mother would suffer , if her only son is dead. So ,yes she might be worried about the long term effect on her mother.. for this half brother Dutta is bete jaisa hai forAS .. beta nehi jise,Kala's mother has actually given birth to.Hence,for Kala to be after the blood of Dutta.D.P makes sense.
Now why in heaven's name he is not shown in Laagi as being her real brother beats me..could it be that it may border too much on the parameters of a reality based situation,which can be shocking rather than the exciting ,"I want to know what happens next!TV soap scenario? thus deviating from that element that gives "make belief thrill" ,to the naked truth that in this world humans due to various factors can commit such crimes ,that may well create shock waves in society.

2. Kala ,didn't get him killed straight away to gain control over PV, because I think,she was'nt challenged and hyped up enough to slaughter him, it would have been a little too easy and lacking the kick she was after... more reasons to go for the kill, one could say she was'nt aroused enough to perform!.Now when her rather poor attempts failed, the car crash, the unfortunately for her not a dead but a maimed Dutta, she decided she would take matters in her own hands as she was now wound up enough... viola! the hostages situation... yes she has all the pugilistic mettle and so the two boxers come to the ring for the final knock out of one!... now that to Kala is the fair way to win a fight!... but before the fight.. she has to feed her passion to smash him and mash him up!
3. Supriya's elopement ,for Kala was a success story of winning a battle, that of creating a rift between Nakusha and Dutta.So she achieved what she had planned.
4. Kala was known for her shock tactics, she loved shocking every body, that's how she made head lines! the sad thing was that when she was threatening to throw her son from the first floor, her family probably knew that she is capable of anything, they expected only evil from her. but it well might have been one of those moments that her mother may have realized that her daughter is exteremly emotionally bruised!.. so no Kala was not really going to do it, it was on for effect, but it also showed Kishore to keep his gob shut!. So yes, here again the drama queen got what she wanted... so another battle won by Kala!
5.Kala told Naku about her true intentions regarding Dutta,and then Naku responded by telling her that Saab is alive... weeell, Roise its a simple case of one uppance against each other. also a war cry.. from Kala "now look here this is my stand! and Naku's reply "woh zinda hai, ab tum kar lo jo karna hai, but remember I am his shield.. black or white!... but battle tu hai between the basti ke lardki and the lady of the Manor... but I think Kala does these,pokes,revalations, to see the affect that it has on her adversary, for its the effect that feeds her adrenaline to fight!
5. lipstick ye toothy tiger... neither Rosie , apne Bhao ke theeran... boooze.. oops wine...huumh can't remember ,if she took spirits as well
ok baaaby... loved this post...maaza aya.. waise great going sarre threads.. every one in it together!
haan me too in a fighting mode ... much love xx hammie

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Posted: 13 years ago
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nice ques & thread 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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kala no doubt was one of the impt character its rarely do u come across somebody who is so one dimensionally negative .who is all witch & negative .but again that made it special & one of its kind
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Posted: 13 years ago
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4) Kala always blackmailed kishore that she would harm their son if he disclosed her real self before dutta. Do u think she would have really harmed her son, was she that blind ? I remember she once tried to push her son out of the balcony but still .. and one more thing how and why did she marry kishore, the cv's should have thrown some light on that aspect as well.

I can't tell you how much I wondered about this myself! How and why did she marry him...and vice versa. Seriously, I'd have thought Kishore to find himself a wife in a mandir or something, but instead he found her in Kalavati! 🤢 Whoever fixed up this marriage ( cause I can't believe this to be a love marriage...it's definitely arranged!) must have been a bigger ullu than Suds himself.


6) Okay on a lighter note, what did kala love more, her red lipstick or lashing out at sudarshan? I would say lashing out at him with her dark red lips.
Aww, poor Sudarshan!This hurts me, Rose...

Edited by Rose_Petal - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I. I feel kala would have still used dutta for her own ends irrespective of the relation as she proved it when she dangled her own son to blackmail kishore. 😡
2. I dont think she had any feelings for dutta whatsoever. As u urself pointed it was the insecurities of losing a comfortable life and/or the control of PW which must have shaken her when dutta mwt with an accident. As for the change in her intensity of hatred increasing it had to happen cause dutta first agreed to marry sups n then naku came in his life complicating matters for her. She didnt want to see him find peace by any standards. Naku,s tenacity n unflinching faith in the goodness of duta unnerved her to such an extent, she lost her mental equillibrium n plotted to finish dutta n also imprisoned AS N d rest. She had reached desperation point.
3. Not sure if dutta would have immediately found solace in naku,s co; as he had certainly begun liking sups just b4 her eloping wit ravi. He would have been shattered if sups was killed n since her secret would not be revealed he would be under the false impression that she too had come to accept him.
4. Agree with you on this as it stil baffles me, what made kala take such a hasty step. Was she so blinded by her own abilities to finish dutta or she was very sure of naku,s foolishness..😆 It could also be that she was confident dutta would never ever trust naku after the FR? Coming to naku,s revelation of dutta being alive, she as ever trusted her Bappa would cause no harm to him n especially since he had escaped death.
5. Yes, both her red lipstick n lashing at sudershan was her pet pastime along with dreaming the destruction of dutta..

Rose the letter of kalwati from shutter island is hilarious, but a secret wish of many forum members to see the lady die a slow n painful death...😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very interesting questions, Rose. 😃 Let's see if I have the answer to a few of them 😳

1) I doubt Kala would have put Dutta's life into jeopardy if he had been her real brother. Yes, she would have manipulated him for her own gains like she did to Leela and Roops. But she would have definitely tried to get rid of naku, seema, sups...or any woman in DSP's life for the obvious reasons.

2) The thought that Duta was softening and may end up marrying one day made Kala more determined to get rid of him.Earlier, AS and the evil trio were the only women in Dutta's life..

3) Kala had attempted to get supriya killed many a times so what would have happened had she succeeded in doing so? Would supriya's death instead of her elopement have a positive impact on tasha's story? how would have they come closer? May be dutta would have leaned on nakku's shoulder to cry on and that would have been disastrous for kala

4) May be not...but she was sure that Kishore would relent.

5) Over confidence

6) The Red lipstick of course ...it could go out of stock...but Slimy Suds was always around😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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1. Yes, she would. If she could lock her family comprising of her mother and sisters, with whom she shared "khoon ka rishta" and later tie a bomb around them, then why would she spare dutta on "apna paraya" ground. Dutta not being her real brother was just an excuse, she used to justify her evilness towards him. (even cv's must have been not sure enough, that whether, audience will accept, the "kala dutta" relation between real brother & sister).

2. I completely agree with you that initially, she didn't intended to harm him physically, remember, post tasha's first marriage, she took a bullet, during the training session of naku! I guess, may be bcoz, she was gaining satisfaction by harming him emotionally, but later during the FR track, though dutta was broken, but she had nothing to do in it, it was solemnly due to nakusha, and it must be traumatizing , being not able to do something which for her was equivalent to breathing. (though she attempted to further ruin their relationship, but tasha being tasha, had no place for any "third person" their relationship) also, after FR, though dutta behaved nicely with her, but was certainly spaced out, making it difficult to carry her manipulating game. It was like all her dirty tactics reached to a saturation point, so the realisation that there's no further way she could harm him, finally led her plan his murder! As far as owing patil wadi is concerned, I guess deep down kala was always fascinated with the power her brother practiced, remember, the mandir scene, where, she caught sups and ravi red handed and took them at gun point, the way she handled the gun, through out remimded me of dutta, as if she was trying to imitate him, so kala being kala, if fascinated with something, must have desired for it too, but initially dutta was very attentive towards his work, and even ullu use to have such hard time maintaining whatever little position he had, but after FR, dutta was a little deviated and with baaji not being around, and suds in power, she got an easy access to dutta's business and hence tried to over power his empire!

3. If sups would have been killed in any of her attempts, then I would have been the happiest person on this earth'lol. No, but on a serious note, dutta would have ever remain in the guilt of not being able to save a girl, who was supposed to be her women, the fact that DSP's would be wife got killed in his territory would have hurted his ego even more badly than the fact that DSP's girl cheated on him. Yes, then may be dutta and naku's bond would have grew more stronger, but as nimmi said it would have been a hell of a slow LS, may be I'd had to watch the show with my grand children waiting for their LS to start..lol. As far as naku and dutta's proximity turning disastrous for kala is concerned, any way it turned to be the same for her.

4. No, I don't think that she would have "actually harmed" anay, yes, may be bcoz she was the mother, but more than that, IMO, she knew, that once, anay would be "harmed" for real, she could never further blackmail kishore. Interesting point raised, about kala kishore's alliance, I think, she got married to him when patils were still poor and at time kala must have preferred to be a teacher's wife rather than being a garage mechanic's or a gunman's sister('m not sure when exactly she got married) but slowly and gradually dutta's stature grew, making her go complexed.

5 I guess it was over confidence v/s immense faith. There's no other way I can explain it, coz till now, I've always seen it as an attempt to damage the characters by the introduction in the cv's team.

6..I think red lipstick, coz suds could be substituted by his leelu or a certain "uncute creature", BGs, chaskar or for that matter even dolls.

Once again, some very interesting and thought provoking question, rosy! You really managed to touch some of the "untouched aspects" of kala tai quite well!

@mimmi's letter: ROFL

I must say you're damn lucky, it's not every one who gets to correspond with kala tai'lol l. Even I feel, that dutta must have arranged a luxury similar to the island,and kept a check on her!

Edited by aishwish - 13 years ago

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