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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: stranger2rose

Some disturbing questions for and about kala, plz do answer them for me

1) One thing that was shown in the beginning of the show was that kala loved a luxurious and powerful life for which she used dutta as much as she could because he wasn't her real brother, initially there was no hatred in her eyes for him, she only saw him as a money making machine , her prime focus was only to see that all his power was enjoyed by her and for that she didn't even wish him to settle down , fearing that in future he might pass on his property to his heirs, now my question is would she'd still risked dutta's life had he been her real brother , for the moment I am ignoring the fact that dutta's father had killed her father because that was disclosed quite later something even roops n leela weren't aware of but still supported kala in her plans.

great post rose ,kala didn't like dutta. had he been her real brother she could still resented him bcause of maybe being the only male child in the household. every oe kows many a family forgive their oly sons all their sins so if AS reated dutta differently to her daughters then the resentment over the years built up.. and when poor she would just hate him and cause fights but when he started making money then she wanted it all for herself and wanted it to be herproprty and people kill family members for much less u read about it all the time. so yes she had it in hr to finish him in order to gain his wealth.

2) Although kala rarely cared about dutta's life but again initially I felt that deep down she didn't want him to be killed, I am saying this because there was a scene where his helicopter had crashed and Baaji told that dutta was no more at that point of time even kala was a bit shaken up maybe she felt that this was an end to her comfortable life or probably she knew that no one could handle patil vadi the way dutta did including herself otherwise she would have planned to eliminate him in the beginning itself so was the story line changed and her character was made more negative to show her all of a sudden desperation to kill dutta and take over patil vadi because in the beginning she was quite laid back, what m trying to say is if she hated him so deeply and was so eager to have patil vadi in her hands then why didn't she go all out in the beginning itself, what was she waiting for?

imo. she didn't want him dead as he was her golden goose. she wanted him to keep earning as her greed was neer ending . beause if it was thn i'm sure she had all th money she could spend as dutta didn't ever check who was spending what. even we saw suds stealing from him all the time. so the reaction that came after th crash was like abhi toh meri umeed ke muabiq daulat bhi jama nahin hui hai aur woh chal basa.
3) Kala had attempted to get supriya killed many a times so what would have happened had she succeeded in doing so? Would supriya's death instead of her elopement have a positive impact on tasha's story? how would have they come closer? May be dutta would have leaned on nakku's shoulder to cry on and that would have been disastrous for kala
i think that eventually dutta would have fallen for nakku very gradually after along time. as we saw how broke he was when the fake body arrived.

4) Kala always blackmailed kishore that she would harm their son if he disclosed her real self before dutta. Do u think she would have really harmed her son, was she that blind ? I remember she once tried to push her son out of the balcony but still .. and one more thing how and why did she marry kishore, the cv's should have thrown some light on that aspect as we

no she wouldn't have harmed him because for her own benefit ...kishore only kept quiet to keep his son out of harms way.!
why she marrid maybe she was young and at the time of marriage she may have consented to keep AS happy . . kishore loved her maybe when the proposal came she would have seen him being totally besotted with her kala might have thought keep AS happy with a puppet for a husband for her, one thig abut kala she judged quite well most of the time who she can use . and somewhere she said ...tumse shadi kerke ghalti ki mainey so it was done with her consent.
5) In spite of being so clever and cunning what was the need for her to disclose her true intentions before nakku post FR and that too on her own? And nakku who knew that she was after dutta's life why did she tell kala that dutta was alive after the accident? I mean how could these both ladies act so dumb
kala always thought herself above all. maybe even the dietiesas she just stood there to keep AS happy. and nakusha on the other hand was a complete devotee. so maybe kala was saying to her i'm bigger fight me if u can . shesaid to nakku something along the same line.
why nakku told her? i think kala taking off the mangalsutra and putting garland on dutta's picture was like nukkku's intstines were pulled out of her mangalsutra meant a lot to nakku every time anything happen first she hold on to mangalsutra in her hand as if by doing so she was actually taking dutta in a protective embrace. nakku knew AS also was taking kala's
side it wouldn't be long when kala got her way andmake nakku put a white sari on. how can nakku except dutta being dead or mourn him. she wuld have to stop breathing herself first. so to stop kala from making AS beleive that dutta'is dead she had to convince kala dutta is alive and kala will be dammned if she makes any more stories about him being dead.

6) Okay on a lighter note, what did kala love more, her red lipstick or lashing out at sudarshan? I would say lashing out at him with her dark red lips.

lashing out a suds really gave her crue l pleasure
After having such a serious question answer round lets move on to something light, something that will bring a smile on our faces.

So here's presenting TAI KA TASHAN by none other than Rose_petal aka Mimi. It's a must read because m dead sure u will have loads of fun.


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Hi Everyone!

Guess who I've had the pleasure of receiving a letter from? The beautiful and stylish Kalavati Tai! Yep, what a privilege I tell you. She even sent us a photo collage of herself to be used as our profile picture and/or part of our signatures. Such a big heart, don't say?

Okay, I can sense you all gathering tomatoes from your kitchens and taking off your chappals, so no more joking ' just serious business. I'd like you to please spare a few minutes (even though you would rather not) on describing Kala in life after LTL. Describe the life you see fit for her, not whatever the show's creators might have showed when it went off air. How do you think she is? Where does she live? What does her hair look like now? Does she have a husband/boyfriend? Anything you imagine for her'share it here!

i would say she is living in hope somewhere she might find a man mightier then dutta so with his help she will bring dutta down and a loner, she doesn't want to even share herself with anyone.
And since some of you are probably screaming to see your Kala Tai's letter, I won't be greedy. Here it is:



And here is everyone's gift for taking a peek at this post...πŸ˜†



Oh, just look at those gargantuan earrings...the artwork and crimped hair...the lipstick and wispy bangs...and poor little Goldilocks before she got beheaded! 🀣 Have to give it up for Kala's sense of style and her quirks! Ah, I can just hear it in my head: Jo bhala na samjhe bhura na samjhe woh Kalavati kya samajh payega! Oh, God...that can't be good, can it? πŸ€ͺ

ros and mimi ihave decided to repy to post in bits as it's better for me if i lose it wont be all the post😊
Edited by tahera57 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ani_98

Rose great and interesting questions. πŸ˜ƒ..thanks ani , hope they werent boring

To your first one...I think...even if Dutta was her real brother...and if she felt she could not control him anymore...she would have no problem in risking his life...hmm even i feel the same , she always wished to keep people around her under her control and didnt mind using or manipulating even her real sisters for her personal benefits ..

2. I think Kala was suppose to be a negative character.that i agree but somewhere i felt in the beginning she didnt wish him to get killed ..she went after Dutta to kill him because Damoder's dead did not satisfied her.

After Dutta speak agains her...she went after him to kill him too.yup as long as she could manipulate him she was fine with it but when he went out of her hands and she felt her position being under threat she went all out to eliminate him..she had lost Dutta to Naku...and as I said her relationship with Dutta was very twisted...she love to hate him...if she could not have him then Naku could not either.

3. Maybe if Supriya had not been in the picture...Dutta would not have realize that he can love and be loved again. The hopes and dreams that was awaken slowly during Supriya track...would maybe not have been awaken so soon...yeah supriya did manage to awake some emotions in him and had she been killed he would have broken down initially but with nakku being around him i think he would have realized what true love is and what nakku actually felt for him sooner

4. Kala would not harm her child..even i feel the same ...i wished kishore also realized it and disclosed her true face before dutta ...she knew Dutta would save his son...she knew how to control Kishoor and make him not tell the true about her.

She was just using her son...like she used everyone else.

5. Kala told Nakku...because she had confidence that she was already a winner.over confident fool..and playing a game where she could watch Nakku feeling helpless.right , maybe she wanted to see nakku in pain ..was what Kala loved most.

Kishoor knew the true about her too...she love the feeling that no one could touch her...even if they knew the true.

The game just became more fun and interesting.

About Nakku...well doing this time the writers and directors made many mistakes and this was dump..seriously i hated that dutta going blind act ...because Dutta did tell her not to tell anyone. πŸ˜’

6. Defiantly lashing at Surdarshan. πŸ˜†poor sudarshan ..lol..

The last part was really funny...πŸ˜†...glad u enjoyed it ..mimi is wonderful in writing TAI KA TASHAN

Where Kala would be...I think back in the PW with Dutta and everyone. Whatever happen Dutta will always bring her back and try to safe her from herself.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: .nimmi.

1. Kala always hated dutta. obvious from the vicious pleasure she took in his pain during supriya track. but had he been her own brother would she have hated him. NO! but she would have loved to own him...well said nimmi ..she wanted to control n not love people around her and yearn to be his sole priority. Her prized possession for being the man he was.She was way too much in love with herself to love anyone else.
2. She hated him too much to want him dead...or may be she wished to kill him herself she would rather take pleasure in making his life miserable. she loved her life and comforts and wanted him to be alive for that. but the moment naku became his priority, the moment she lost control on him she wanted to kill him. she would rather break her doll that let anyone else play with it...quite a maniac
3. knowing the gadha that our dutta was it probably would have taken him an eternity to realize his love for naku. and knowing apni mahaan naku she would have never told him about her love. a very slow love story that would be.πŸ˜†..yeah things would have been slower n lot different atleast devoid of all that dhokha stuff ..πŸ˜†

4. she says there that she would not have harmed anay. but then what a horrid mother who would not care about the trauma for the kid just to meet her ends.

kala would have wanted to marry extremes.
a man replica of Dutta in power, charisma and ruler.
or someone exactly opposite so that she can lord over him and stay at patil wadi close to dutta.as u have said earlier that she liked to own people so thats why she settled for someone like kishore who was a he pecked husband.
she didn't get that powerful man so she settled for second option selected by AS.
5. she is one megalomaniac who wanted audience. scared, repulsed, appalled but attentive audience..hmm a sadist who enjoyed torturing people. be it kishore or naku. even AS in the end.
kala is not dumb just too confident...blinded by her confidence . naku was too confident in her faith that her husband cant be harmed now and that her faith has won.
6. πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†. thank god we were spared that horror.
great questions rosie...thanks so much for taking time out to answer them and mimi.. what a rofl letter. we sure she keep it in diary safely..these are some of her priceless possessions ..lol... apni tai saheb's priceless signiture.😭 khushi ke aasu..
i am soo glad she is happy and having time of her lifeπŸ˜ƒ..
πŸ‘β­οΈ grea job gals.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -bharti-

I. I feel kala would have still used dutta for her own ends irrespective of the relation as she proved it when she dangled her own son to blackmail kishore...quite right ..she didnt spare anybody 😑

2. I dont think she had any feelings for dutta whatsoever. As u urself pointed it was the insecurities of losing a comfortable life and/or the control of PW which must have shaken her when dutta mwt with an accident. ..hmm correct .. As for the change in her intensity of hatred increasing it had to happen cause dutta first agreed to marry sups n then naku came in his life complicating matters for her. She didnt want to see him find peace by any standards. Naku,s tenacity n unflinching faith in the goodness of duta unnerved her to such an extent, she lost her mental equillibrium n plotted to finish dutta n also imprisoned AS N d rest. She had reached desperation point....i like the words u have used *lost her mental euilibrium * reminds me of my economics studying days ..lol..
3. Not sure if dutta would have immediately found solace in naku,s co;..not immediately but slowly n steadily i think he would have coz he had begun to share his feelings with her.. as he had certainly begun liking sups just b4 her eloping wit ravi. He would have been shattered if sups was killed n since her secret would not be revealed he would be under the false impression that she too had come to accept him..that would be a disaster thinking that sups too loved him ..no baba
4. Agree with you on this as it stil baffles me, what made kala take such a hasty step. Was she so blinded by her own abilities to finish dutta..i guess the cv's were keen to move the story ahead quickly .. or she was very sure of naku,s foolishness..πŸ˜† It could also be that she was confident dutta would never ever trust naku after the FR? ...could be .. Coming to naku,s revelation of dutta being alive, she as ever trusted her Bappa would cause no harm to him n especially since he had escaped death...wow
5. Yes, both her red lipstick n lashing at sudershan was her pet pastime along with dreaming the destruction of dutta.right .

Rose the letter of kalwati from shutter island is hilarious,..mim is just brilliant when it comes to writing such stuffs .. but a secret wish of many forum members to see the lady die a slow n painful death..tathastu .πŸ˜‰

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@hammie...I loved reading ur answers and agree with u that had he been her real broth she would have definitely tried to control him but certainly not wished to kill him...also she enjoyed threatening ppl around her be it kishore by hanging their son from the balcony or telling nakku abt her true intentions..she was indeed a sadist
Lol..yeah how could she miss out on emptying dutta,s bar
@Mimi..ohh baby even ur disturbed as to how n why on earth did kishore marry that devil..well some questions remain unanswered..and u know deep down what I feel forur lover boy so don't take such remarks so seriously..lol
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very interesting questions, Rose...thanks a lot ivy πŸ˜ƒ Let's see if I have the answer to a few of them 😳

1) I doubt Kala would have put Dutta's life into jeopardy if he had been her real brother. Yes, she would have manipulated him for her own gains like she did to Leela and Roops.hmm i also feel the same , she wouldnt want to kill him for sure may be use and throw him away after getting what she wanted.. But she would have definitely tried to get rid of naku, seema, sups...or any woman in DSP's life for the obvious reasons.yup she desired full n total control over ppl around her

2) The thought that Duta was softening and may end up marrying one day made Kala more determined to get rid of him.Earlier, AS and the evil trio were the only women in Dutta's life.also he used to act according to her wishes but after nakku came in his life he started becoming happy which probably didnt go down well with her.

3) Kala had attempted to get supriya killed many a times so what would have happened had she succeeded in doing so? Would supriya's death instead of her elopement have a positive impact on tasha's story? how would have they come closer? May be dutta would have leaned on nakku's shoulder to cry on and that would have been disastrous for kala

4) May be not...but she was sure that Kishore would relent.

5) Over confidence ...lol..right both were quite confident

6) The Red lipstick of course ...it could go out of stock.ohh u think slimy suds was replaceble ..lol..but Slimy Suds was always aroundπŸ˜†
@ aish

1. Yes, she would. If she could lock her family comprising of her mother and sisters, with whom she shared "khoon ka rishta" and later tie a bomb around them,...but aish she had done all that so that she could get hold of dutta .. then why would she spare dutta on "apna paraya" ground. Dutta not being her real brother was just an excuse, she used to justify her evilness towards him. (even cv's must have been not sure enough, that whether, audience will accept, the "kala dutta" relation between real brother & sister)...hmm may be

2. I completely agree with you that initially, she didn't intended to harm him physically, remember, post tasha's first marriage, she took a bullet, during the training session of naku! ..yup i remember that ..I guess, may be bcoz, she was gaining satisfaction by harming him emotionally, but later during the FR track, though dutta was broken, but she had nothing to do in it, it was solemnly due to nakusha, and it must be traumatizing ,...right ...she was unable to torture him herself .. being not able to do something which for her was equivalent to breathing. (though she attempted to further ruin their relationship, but tasha being tasha, had no place for any "third person" their relationship) also, after FR, though dutta behaved nicely with her, but was certainly spaced out, making it difficult to carry her manipulating game. It was like all her dirty tactics reached to a saturation point, so the realisation that there's no further way she could harm him, finally led her plan his murder! As far as owing patil wadi is concerned, I guess deep down kala was always fascinated with the power her brother practiced, remember, the mandir scene, where, she caught sups and ravi red handed and took them at gun point...seriously she truly looked like a lady don ...πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘, the way she handled the gun, through out remimded me of dutta, as if she was trying to imitate him, so kala being kala, if fascinated with something, must have desired for it too, but initially dutta was very attentive towards his work, and even ullu use to have such hard time maintaining whatever little position he had, but after FR, dutta was a little deviated and with baaji not being around, and suds in power, she got an easy access to dutta's business and hence tried to over power his empire!

3. If sups would have been killed in any of her attempts, then I would have been the happiest person on this earth'lol...i know why ..lol.. No, but on a serious note, dutta would have ever remain in the guilt of not being able to save a girl, who was supposed to be her women, the fact that DSP's would be wife got killed in his territory would have hurted his ego even more badly than the fact that DSP's girl cheated on him....very valid point brought up aish ..i never thought that way ..πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ Yes, then may be dutta and naku's bond would have grew more stronger, but as nimmi said it would have been a hell of a slow LS,...lol... may be I'd had to watch the show with my grand children waiting for their LS to start..lol. As far as naku and dutta's proximity turning disastrous for kala is concerned, any way it turned to be the same for her.

4. No, I don't think that she would have "actually harmed" anay, yes, may be bcoz she was the mother, but more than that, IMO, she knew, that once, anay would be "harmed" for real, she could never further blackmail kishore....once again u have brought forward a very different pov ..good n intelligent gal .. Interesting point raised, about kala kishore's alliance, I think, she got married to him when patils were still poor and at time kala must have preferred to be a teacher's wife rather than being a garage mechanic's or a gunman's sister('m not sure when exactly she got married) but slowly and gradually dutta's stature grew, making her go complexed.

5 I guess it was over confidence v/s immense faith. ..yeah me too feel the same ..There's no other way I can explain it, coz till now, I've always seen it as an attempt to damage the characters by the introduction in the cv's team.

6..I think red lipstick, coz suds could be substituted..u have a substitute for SUDS😲😲😲😲..i am shocked and disheartened ..i thought he is indispensable..😭 by his leelu or a certain "uncute creature", BGs, chaskar or for that matter even dolls.

Once again, some very interesting and thought provoking question, rosy!...thanks so much for sharing ur views .. You really managed to touch some of the "untouched aspects" of kala tai quite well!

@mimmi's letter: ROFL

I must say you're damn lucky,...yup she has suds one side and kala's letters on the other ..phew..some girls have all the luck ..lol.. it's not every one who gets to correspond with kala tai'lol l. Even I feel, that dutta must have arranged a luxury similar to the island,and kept a check on her!

Edited by stranger2rose - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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jo bala na samjhe
jo bura na samjhe
woh kalavati ko kya samjhega πŸ˜†
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tahera57

ros and mimi ihave decided to repy to post in bits as it's better for me if i lose it wont be all the post😊

thanks for replying tahera

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