His Highness Rev Sir GH:another nacheez's response

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"You may want to stop reading this if you, by now have decided to abhor the word CV. This is on behalf of everyone who comes under CV, that I decide to write. I dont know if its a futile exercise, but I would still make an attempt."

Having read the rest of your preach, it sounds to me like you meant 'you may want to stop reading this if you don't like patronizing sermons.' By saying 'on behalf of everyone,' erm do you mean all the CVs are as erm liberal, open to feedback, and not stuck up.. erm just like you? Just asking.

"The way a show works is that the producer approaches the channel with a concept. The channel decides if the show would work for the kind of audience they have, the kind of bouquet of shows they have, if it fits well in it. A research team from the channel works on finding if the show has a market out there. When all signs are positive, the show is commissioned.

The crew is assigned, the cast is decided and the show goes on floors. Picture is pretty so far. Now, the car is ready to leave the garage and hit the roads. As a viewer, you'd expect your car (show/ actors)- which is run by the driver (CVs from production house and channels) on the roads very smoothly. Sure enough, we like the ride that way too. But the ride may not always be smooth. It gets rocky, there are speed breakers, the roads are bad, there is work in progress, there is traffic, someone else is driving rashly and you need to go slow. Or worse, it pours and its just not in your hands.

We go through our challenges too."

I'm sorry to break your bubble, but what you've outlined isn't a unique journey. While I would love to let you keep thinking that it's rocket science and one of a kind, every job entails versions of just what you've outlined above.

"Is Pyaar Ko is a romance, a Star One type of show, being tried on a Star Plus type of a platform, keeping in mind that we dont just want the youth, but also the slightly older generation to watch it with interest. If it was just for youth, we would have just kept it in office, made it more 'yo' but we are targetting a larger section.

A show like Is Pyar ko is difficult to write because it is different from the other kind of shows that you see. There are times when we work and we rework and we rework till we are satisfied. I guess that is how the show managed to get its fanbase that grew so much so that today they are fanatic when something goes wrong. But why could it be going wrong? Its always the CVs who are blamed, cursed, given cuss words for.

I mean, why?"

Erm coz I thought you said above that you are the driver or some such thing? So bumpy ride on a smooth road (given there are other cars riding smoothly on the same road). Logically, a driver driving rashly or sleeping while driving results in a bumpy ride in that case. I mean logically, oh wait did I say logically? Apologies.

"We are as human, we tend to err as much as anyone else. And its not like we like to sabotage the show because the longer a show runs, the better it is for us- its our show, its our baby and its our anna-daata. We earn because of the hard work on it."

I'm glad we've established the anna-daata bit - a.k.a a job?

"Hard work and CVs, someone may frown there. Yes, we have to create a bank so that the production plans things well. Because there can be actor availability problems, location availability problems, weather problems, just anything unforseen. There is very less time, some scenes take time to get shot, hence the editor doesnt get enough time, sometimes the daylight is getting over, and the director has to finish, he cannot shoot tomorrow because the schedule is planned some other way. But none of the 80 odd team members like mediocrity. What you see is the best possible way in which the episode could go on air given the constraints. People fall sick. Its not just poor Barun, poor Sanaya, there is poor editor, poor director, poor everyone who would fall sick and the performance may slack a bit because of that because we work beyond the permissible limits of body clocks."

Awww poor, POOR CVs (literally too, given some of the props and sets). Take some tissues, use our shoulders. Feel better, babies? Or, would you like some more mollycoddling? I mean you guys are after all the only group in the whole world who does their job in spite of facing so many challenges. Everyone else in everyone field has such a cakewalk after all. Let me spare you a hug every day.

"We give you all 5 half hours of content every week. Thats almost the length of a movie. So basically we make a movie every week. We work daily, and wait, just when there is a breather, there is a maha episode, which means in that fortnight there is no breather as we have done Mon-Fri, then a one hour slot, then again a Mon-Fri. So there is no break."

More awwws. I've NEVER heard of such hardwork. I mean EVER. Neither me nor my colleagues nor my friends work. Just makhi maaring, you know? No hardwork, no challenges, no deadlines, no problems. All hunky dory.

"Barun is doing a film. He is adjusting his weekends with us and whenever possible he can shoot with us. We write scripts according to that. We go back and forth, bend backwards because we know how much you all love ASR/Barun. We want to provide as much as we can manage."

..and we thank you for it. Not that when Barun and Sanaya were in every single scene during the comedy stint, you made particular use of it (erm the kundali comedy, gobar rabba ve etc.) that you are lamenting that Barun's not around now.

"If a terrace scene is not good, you all will blame the director and editor for a bad job. But poor actors they shot in the sun. Let me tell you that the directors, the production team, the lightmen, the spot boys, the cameraperson do not operate from AC vans. Everyone faces the heat. Trust us on one thing, what we give you is our best."

Correction. If Sanaya and/or Barun do not act well in a scene, then we will say they should've done a better job. You should be happy that your actors more often than not do a good job. Please be assured that there have been posts mentioning they could've done a better job in some scenes.

Oh and I'm sorry, but it's difficult to 'trust you' that you are giving your best when we've already seen your best and what was shown recently is nowhere near it.

"So a request, do not all the time trash CVs for a bad scene or a bad track. When a Khushi ASR scene moves you all, entertains you all, its not JUST Barun and Sanaya who have given a fab performance. Its the entire team effort. There are 9 posts on Barun and Sanaya and one post on CVs. But if something goes wrong, there will be a rampage of CV trashing, that even goes to the extent of 'CVs are trying to ruin the careers of the actors.' Like really! Next you all will imagine us dressed as komolika and playing with the latt of our hair!!"

Wow, did you say request? Besides the actual word, nothing in this post suggests anything but a patronizing tone, you know? Also, do you scour through IF all day to see how many posts are made on Barun, Sanaya, CVs, et al? Out of curiosity, do you make a tally? Not that that's petty or childish or anything. I guess a more mature group would've been flattered that we are not giving feedback to Barun or Sanaya about their acting, but are taking the effort to give thoughtful feedback to the CVs. But, I see this is a case of 'don't say bad things about us coz we're the best.'

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do not all the time trash CVs for a bad scene or a bad track" -> sure, we'll just trash our bad luck.

"Bottomline- Its a creative process. Some ideas are good, some bad. Sometimes we HAVE to do a parallel track because we have to shoot two units and make sure twenty two minutes of content everyday is ready. We all go through the same problems as Barun and Sanaya and 'Arhi' and 'Payash' are as close to us as they are to you all. We try, we fall, we get up, try something new, because lets face it- everyone on the show has come with years of experience. Its just that sometimes things work, sometimes they dont."

I would've thought years of experience makes people mature and open to feedback. Instead of being defensive and touchy.

"You may feel why is this guy ranting so much. Why is he getting senti? Then, well, let me tell you if you are not senti as a person, you cannot be a creative person. I am attached to the show and take it seriously. So does the rest of my team."

We don't doubt that. But, I think taking your work seriously includes taking criticism and being open to feedback. Getting defensive, patronizing, and preachy shows insecurity and arrogance.

"PS: Barun and Sanaya are not my enemies. You never know someone out there might just take THAT as a takeaway message from this!! Sanaya in fact is a good friend of mine! And guys, its a show, take it as entertainment. There are more things in life to get aggressive and serious about. Watch Satyamev Jayate and you'll know."

Now here comes the highest point of the patronizing tone in this post. Irrespective of what you wanna say about your passion/love for the show, at the end of the day, it's your professions - your job - anna-daata like established earlier. And we are your clients, not the other way round. By being your clients, we earn the right to give you our feedback - about your show, of which we are clients. Not your personal life/choices. You, unfortunately, do not have the right to tell us what to do (or which show to be passionate about) in our personal lives. That is the stark truth. I was imagining myself calling up my clients and saying "Dude, I know my work is currently trash, but hey, there are bigger problems in the world you know? So, don't mind if I do crap work. Watch Satyamev Jayate instead and maybe you'll forget that I suck at my work." Just saying.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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  • I couldn't help but feel sorry that these kids who spell question as 'kostein' or women with mid life crisis posing as teenagers on the forums actually have such aggression towards something that is entertainment. And analyse things that they wouldn't have a perspective till they work with a production house and a channel. They want to assume and react based on their assumptions. They want to live in a bubble where everything is nice and hunky and dory and everyone is smart brained and not gullible and love peace and harmony is the way of life and no negative emotions exist and Achhe logonke saath accha Hota hai philosophy and hence in the show everyone should be happy Shyam should be out Arnav khushi should be happy and we have suhaag raat scenes every episode!!

  • Trust me I am chilled and all geared up! I have better things in life than react to them. I have a new show launching this Monday and I need all positive energy around me.


    HE JUST DOES NOT GET IT DOES HE???? PUTTING HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH AGAIN AND AGAIN ... AND SERIOUSLY WASNT THAT WHAT BARUN SOBTI IS THERE FOR???

    My god! what the heck have we signed up for here, girl!! Now he is off to concentrate on that Madhubala show of Drashti's ... Me thinks ALL the rats seem to be leaving the sinking ship ... the making justifications on their way out too boot!!! No wonder he is promoting Satyamev Jayate!

    Ye Gods!! talk about someone in his 'mid life crisis posing as a teenager' and one who works so so hard while the rest of us just watch his show and live in our 'BUBBLE' ... I wud like to tell him that I too am in the creative profession, and dare I tell any client that this is IT - take it or leave it ... that's the door!!

    And where on earth has he got the idea that we only want to watch A and K happy happy and making out, bey

    And what effing sort of MU was that -- where all we felt for Khushi was ANNOYANCE and PITY for Arnav at being married to such a juvenile creature... WHER EXACTLY WAS THE MU??? THE TORTURE?

    If any one was being tortured it was US!

    We for one were all for the hate marriage etc ... but where the hell was the HATE MARRIAGE??? All we saw was games one after another ... the only thing which he did was making her sleep outside ... which by the way she looked as if she thoroughly enjoyed...

    And now ... this whole Shyam harassing her etc ... i understand it is okay for the plot etc. and it at least shows the villain as villainous (Thank God for that, he was also turning into a joker earlier) ... You know, I was actually laughing at his 'hum drop kar den khushi ji' and his other cheesy dialogues !

    But the whole point is that is there going to be a follow through of that? Is there going to be a time that her husband feels like a heel that he could not protect his own wife under his own roof from his own brother in law!!! Disgusting as it is now, and needed for the plot ... will the creatives let it go without even realizing what a BIG DEAL that is ... worse than him thinking the worse of her in my book...

    And finally, why does he feel the need the need to come and tell us NOW (when his trps are barely 2) that we are fools living in bubbles with IPK being the only be all and end all of our lives!!!

Edited by romantic.chick - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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SSS SSS SSS

ye KYA hai bey?!
Chickee thumbnail
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These are his replies to on his FB page!!!

Padh zaraa ...

Living in a BUBBLE!!! my arse!!!
Edited by romantic.chick - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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erm ... have u left already????
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He seems to have immense knowledge about women facing midlife crisis bey.. how they respond, how they make posts, what they post as.. I'm sure he knows about PMSs and menopauses bey.. and how women would make posts in those conditions.. very medically useful, our man.. I wonder if he makes some of those fake IDs? Or maybe he knows such women coz .. erm don't want to get personal now, do we? Which is more than I can say about the man himself though!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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OMG! Is that actually his response?! The kostein but?! I am appalled but because I have an exam Tom, I will be properly giving my own response later!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Re-posting other member posts from other threads is NOT ALLOWED.

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