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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good grief the way everybody is whining on and on about the TRPs are exasperating to say in the least not to mention downright annoying. It is not like it had a 4 point something average or was ruling the roost at No. 1 and came crashing down to this. A .6 difference is negligible and it may have happened even with BS being in every scene as there has been no significant development in the story otherwise. His going away to shoot was actually a blessing in disguise because it forced the CV's to actually go back and look for a story. The fact that it stood at 2.3 indicates there is still sufficient interest although it nevertheless continues its abysmal record run at the ratings office. I think this is the 2nd or 3rd month in a row it is scoring a 2 point average and this is not the first time it has reached this figure. It happened last year also even with every body on roll call duty.

Other serials are ruling obviously due to the strength of their stories their characters the interwoven plots the sub plots with the supporting cast and most importantly the continuity in maintaining the integrity and intrinsic nature of the leads. They have innovated and changed as per the viewers wants and interest

The PH publicity gimmick backfired, the controversies boomeranged and the lack of characters interesting enough to want to watch (apart from the female lead who is presently having to shoulder the burden of the serial and the bouquets and brickbats coming her way and to be honest there is only that much she can do which would be the same if the male had to be in the same position) has added up to a distinct viewer disinterest.

Now be honest and ask yourselves are the makers of the serial being true to themselves? Have they considered the viewers requests and demands? Have they had a genuine introspection of where they were going wrong? Other serials did especially child bride which also went through a low phase but came out of it with a better track and parallel lead for romance. Even the second hand me down serial has staged a remarkable comeback after losing 2 leads a generation leap and a host of new players. They have sat on the MU track for so long I think they got stuck to it so tight that they are unable to extricate themselves quickly and are now tearing out from it as hurriedly as they can and in the process creating gaps and holes wide enough for every one to see the weakness shoddiness and lack of credibilty in the story.

So let us stop playing the blame game and get realistic.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi swathi...I am the first...and cant believe it...
I actually thought that finally the story was picking up...and have been watching the last few epis quite religeously...true there are some things that they can do without and improvements to be met...but pne cant expect a -something to a+ dble digits in one week...
the story has actually got punch in it...the script and screen play tightened...equal screen time for charactors and comedy by alt...and not too much to take away from the show and not disjointed form the show...the lead lady is now doing what she needs to do...and the villain...is morphing beautifully
Even her realisation of her fealings was done well...nothing crass or gaudy and filmy...
but saying so I in now way contribute to trps...heck I dont even figure in the I-F opinion poll...
trp calculators are not the best...but they are equal across the board so they indicate the pulse of the audience well...and unfortunately...at the end of the day...art is in the commersial world and subject to it...So the future hangs in the balance of a continued trp slouch...or one as u mentioned could always take it as a warning and turn things around...the Ph has proved with the last week and infact the ability to create a show and charactors that have not only captured audience but made the careers of their artistes...that they are capable of turning this around...whether they want to and need to ..is something they alone and their economics will judge...
Barun being the sole responsibility of this...is a very naive shortsighted view...the forum tends to be very insular and immature...in many ways and the articles around just go to prove it...
Amir Khans SMJ...the trps there are still not solely determined on his startdom...it infact would have been a major worry if his stardom would have got in the way of the success of the show...and he is working very hard to underplay himself...so there rests my argument about Barun...
Making him the sole reason for trps is not only a very unfair judgement of him and his 'powers' but aslo a unfair assesment of the talent of the rest of the cast and crew...
So Swathi I do agree with you...I am not as familiar with the Indian telly scene and the shows that are on or high on the ranking and why...niether am I versed in how the trps are measured...yet your article makes sense to me...but then again you and me are going to be in the minority here...in opinion polls...(or atleast you will fit in the minority demographic atleast...i dont even think I have a space on the scale)
Edited by tangam - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post Fairy (dont know if I can use your name here)...
I personally think the CV's brought it on themselves with the lack of any story progression for the past few months. Even when they had Barun Sobti they did not utilize him. The trp's have been declining steadily for months. Its not as if it was 4 last week and this week it suddenly went down to 2.3. And I understand that Barun has his movie to do, but to be honest I dont approve of an actor leaving his show, especially when he is the main lead, for 45 days. That is a lot of days to be absent.
I believe his leave might have decreased the trp's to a certain extent becase he is the main lead afterall. I am not blaming him for the decline in the trp's, I understand why he did it, but that doesnt mean I have to like it. Plus I really hated the way they publicized his leave...so many rumors...first 11 days then 40 then 22 then 45. Then the rumors of his leaving...Barun not clearly stating whether he was staying or not in an interview which was meant to clear the air. There is that saying that suits perfectly: apne hi paro pe khuladi mardi CV's aur Barun ne. The CV's really jumped the gun. They failed terribly in their publicity stunt. That might have been another reason for the trp decline. Its not just any one factor...its a combination of a lot of things put together.

But there really is no point in playing the blame game because the fact still remains that the trp's are declining...whatever the cause they are certainly low.
Edited by ---Nisha--- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sorry guys, I reserved the place and my wi fi ditched me. Hence the late update!

👏A much needed posts after all this hallaboo .Time for reality check!🤓

First of all today's TRP fiasco, dubbed as "TRP nosedive" by many, is not a sudden blow. It was just another pedal in the downward spiiral of TRP since Holi. Last week we have 2.9 that that was because of the ME. Without ME the TRP would have been around 2.5 or something. So fall is .3 and is gradual, not sudden. The TRP's were falling when BS was in the show as well! So the arguement is completely irrational.

How do you revive a show! OPfcourse CVs have got their collective a$$es back to work and PH is continuously releasing interesting promos to pull back audiances. It will take time. With BS's leave it will be a herculean task for them. Nevertheless they are working on it. The story line started to become gripping and now onwards the sole missing piece is gonna be the less screen time of one of the lead! To move the story forward they need Arnav Singh Raizada and Barun's absense is really gonna take toll now if he is gonna be missing for long duration.

So far BS's leave should not be blamed. But going further,it will make TRP revival difficult!

As a normal viewer I look for consistancy in the story. IPK seems to have lot of flip flops every now and then. The bought in NK and then boom, he is missing ever since arhi marriage😕.Confusionwa. They bought in that bubble gum and cut her out of IPK all of a sudden😕.Again confusionwa. Agree there was a lot of hue and cry about Miss B character in the forum. But does that mean they end the character without a proper conclusion? Everyone hated her because her character was shown dark and people have difficulty in seeing a kid as villain. So recify it. I still think there could have been a extended miss B track, which shows the sad side of lonely kid, miss b and how payal can be a mother figure to her. I am sure indian audiance would have fallen for a senti-drama of an orphan more than masala mama track.

My point is PH get sidetracked a lot by Online audiance. They stalk India forum and We are not a good sample audience. Thats it! What we want is arhi arhi arhi. And they gave us arhi arhi arhi post holi and TRP did not improve. So clearly the TRP generators and forum wavelengths does not match. In the last one week we say CVs are giving us good episodes and still TRP fell. Why? They are not giving the general non-forum audience what they want and we are not giving the correct feedback! They get the feedback from us and they don't enough apply filter on the feedback and just implement it.😡

The indian housewives who majorly contribute to the TRP, may not be in their teens anymore and they may not go for the 'Romance' element in the show. They always look for story. (My MIL, who adores every sh** they show on indian telly, hated the post holi rabba vey's and was constantly cribbing about not showing anjali and shyam story track, especially when anjali is pregnant. See a pregnant anjali can touch the cord with audience than a mechanic arnav!. She moved on to BV btw). So first I would say is the PH should stop listening to this so called online audiances(including me) and continue with their way of story telling.

CVs, Please tell us the story you wanna say, in your way.
Edited by sree07 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lovely post Fairy.

It's unfair for people to place the blame on Barun for the decrease in TRP's. This problems been here for a while now, and the CV's haven't done anything consistent to remedy it. Although having said that, the CV's have taken fans opinions into account regarding this whole Bubbly track and Masala Mama character and are already planning on bringing NK back.

Why venture out with ambiguous characters that the audience find hard to connect with, when you can flesh out the ones you already have?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh woman!! What a post!!

Couldn't have been better explained.

I hated the thought of Barun leaving and quite frankly his leaving had to cause a dip in the TRPs. This show isn't half as cool as we would like it to be without the two of them sizzling on screen - even meaninglessly and scriptlessly sometimes!

But for the last week or so, I have actually been quite impressed and now am of the belief that Barun should have left a month ago if that meant bringing the "story" back into the show.

Yes, what could have been covered in 4 episodes as taken 14 because 10 of the 22 minutes aired is pure flashbacks. But that remaining 12 minutes have more or less contributed to taking things forward -including Khushi's realization that despite everything she loves him and despite that the future of their relationship may still be darker than what she hopes for.

The PH screwed up.

If they thought Barun leaving wasn't going to be a big deal, they were wrong.
If they thought creating rumors around his leaving, quitting etc would help the show, they were wrong.
If they are deliberately trying to keep things vague, it is not working

BUT

They seem to be doing the right thing for the story. Was the kidnapping planned all along - highly doubt it. But with the male lead leaving, they are actually thinking some and some more. That's always a good thing

If the "chemistry" fans are leaving, that's ok. Can't blame them. Just in terms of story, other shows have a lot more to offer (or so I hear from my mother!)

I can only hope that a fall in TRP is only going to spur the PH in the right direction

Everybody needs a D grade to make them realize that you won't always get an A or even a B without actually working for it

Phew, long rant but I am also extremely amused to see all the TRP posts on the forum.

If the show loses steam, nobody can help it. Not even the loyal fans we like to call ourselves

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Posted: 13 years ago
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totally, completely, unequivocally agree with you FLS.

The story line has to be interesting to gain TRPs. There is not point blaming anyone other than the dratted dragfest of MU, stupid character additions and a story that is bouncing off the walls with uncanny regularity.

CVs have pretended to listen but honestly, they have no ideas to go beyond the confession and sending shyam to jail track. So they've resorted to stretch this material till the last fibers of it tatters beyond recognition.

The TRPs are consistently showing down. Even during the lull of last dec TRPs never fell this low. In fact, Barun's absence, as you said, has forced the creators to look beyond the pimp and show and actually tell a story.

Lets hope to see a gripping kidnap drama!!! keeping fingers crossed.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well said, FLS.

Haven't the PH had this story and only this story since the very beginning?
The MU was the trap, and the 'Nufrut-Mohubbut' (N-M) the bait.

Finally realizing that the story, having fallen into the trap, has languished there for a whole year, now the PH decides to dig.
After three months of the villain doing nothing we see him suddenly waking up to some gray cells, putting his schemes into motion, and some development on the N-M track.

Too little, too late.

I totally see the holes in the story even now though it is moving forward a bit.
But, seriously? A whole week's worth of episodes on just Khushi sleeping restlessly, havinn dreams, ruminating, pondering? Yeesh!

They throw in Arnav doses to keep the teeny-boppers/immature folks happy - the majority of whom reside on this forum - while the rest of the actually TRP garnering audience has switched to other channels and shows.

Is the PH really listening and changing its tune.
Honestly, no.
They are sticking to their time-line, clinging to their MU because without it there is really no tension in the N-M track. The tension is what keep viewers glued to the screen; though alas, not any more.

But this is the reality of showbiz. Everyone there lives in their own little dream world and is often stupefied when the public does not buy it. Even when told the reasons why, they suddenly develop selective deafness.
In a lot of ways they are like the majority of this forum.
They want to hear and choose to listen to only what they like; i.e. gushes, raves, and fanaticism of fans. Everything else, be it perfectly logical and well-meant yet opposing views, it is either rabidly attacked or ignored.

Realistic? What is that?
Over three months of below 3 TRPs? SP noticing? The show getting axed?
No, no, dear. not to this show. 🤔

What the PH does not see is that reality is bitin' so close, they've got fang marks on their a**!

Jayne

Edited by Jayne - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: serialjunkie

totally, completely, unequivocally agree with you FLS.


The story line has to be interesting to gain TRPs. There is not point blaming anyone other than the dratted dragfest of MU, stupid character additions and a story that is bouncing off the walls with uncanny regularity.

CVs have pretended to listen but honestly, they have no ideas to go beyond the confession and sending shyam to jail track. So they've resorted to stretch this material till the last fibers of it tatters beyond recognition.

The TRPs are consistently showing down. Even during the lull of last dec TRPs never fell this low. In fact, Barun's absence, as you said, has forced the creators to look beyond the pimp and show and actually tell a story.

Lets hope to see a gripping kidnap drama!!! keeping fingers crossed.

SJ your back
glad to see you say more than I luv you (tho I did take it personally...till you started propositioning aone and all without discretion)😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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whoa!! something must be wrong!! i actually agree with this. l.o.l

speaking for myself, i lost interest around 4 months ago.. was always against a marriage and the way it turned out just added to my disappointment about the uniqueness of the show. thereafter, there were good moments and that's about it. though i doubt it has anything to do with the female lead-burdened-distinct viewer disinterest. i was not interested in the comedy tracks introduced in the name of fillers. but that's the different story. though that is what i could say about the male lead actor right now. brickbats and et cetera for doing what one would do if offered a role on the silver screen. thankfully, the female lead actor gets to share this with the reality show. ha!

i think the PH did get as far as trying to accede to demands, the costumes and hair styles for the female lead have undergone a change. and no gel = great idea (momentary). they most certainly cannot take more demands about storyline into account cause there is only someone who could repair the situation - the ones who brought out the situation - Gautiji and the likes.

the TRp may increase, the show may get closed or the time slot maybe changed. but that's what time will tell.




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