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Ankur

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Posted: 13 years ago

An old and benevolent king is handing out money to his very poor and illiterate people. People were praising his generous act. A wise man walks in and asks the king why his people were poor and illiterate in the first place.

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kash4ARrocks

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Posted: 13 years ago

even though i dont like that u are implying this about amir but i have to agree with this--- governments been doing this all across the world.. its their reason as to why the poverty is there in the first place. but hey isnt amir just trying to help out?

p.s not trying to bash or anything just wanted a general discussion

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Ankur

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: kash4ARrocks
even though i dont like that u are implying this about amir but i have to agree with this--- governments been doing this all across the world.. its their reason as to why the poverty is there in the first place. but hey isnt amir just trying to help out?
p.s not trying to bash or anything just wanted a general discussion

If 2 of us have to agree on everything, then 1 of us is not required :)

But 1 thing I am in total agreement with you is that Amir Khan is the King of Indian cinema and has made the most of socially relevant movies.

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Posted: 13 years ago

@Ankur

Well Aamir is not the ''king'' of people here. He is not responsible for the situation of people in the country. He is also another citizen only. But as he has some position of influence being a movie star, he is using it to make some positive difference for people of his country.

This king example applies to government. Not to Aamir. The problems of people are not due to him. In fact, he was never even obligated to make such a show or donate to any NGO. So this wise man thing can be taken to government, not to Aamir Khan.

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Posted: 13 years ago

i like the quote...i am not going to assume any implication...but the truth is that its important to find the root of the problem...that is the only way to fix it...but its not a matter of simply pointing at the present "kings"...the reasons for such behaiviors run deep...and have been passed from generation to generation...

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-scarlett-

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Posted: 13 years ago

I agree with the above person, I really like the quote and the way it is stated but according to me, the King would be our "government" who really needs to focus on improving the country then just stating the facts and saying things. Aamir has really helped the society and is trying to make a move as a citizen of the country. But when the government does not want to listen then what can the speaker do...

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Ankur

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: annika20
@Ankur

Well Aamir is not the ''king'' of people here. He is not responsible for the situation of people in the country. He is also another citizen only. But as he has some position of influence being a movie star, he is using it to make some positive difference for people of his country.
This king example applies to government. Not to Aamir. The problems of people are not due to him. In fact, he was never even obligated to make such a show or donate to any NGO. So this wise man thing can be taken to government, not to Aamir Khan.

@Annika20

The problems of our society are in spite of people like Aamir, and not because of them. In solving them, the first stage is always being aware of the problem or acceptance of the fact that the problem exists.

While we all get busy with our day-to-day problems (which dress to buy, which sedan/suv to purchase, which pair of shoes to wear in the party, etc), someone comes along (he is as rich as us or probably drawa "wages" 10000 times higher than us, but is moved by such problems way ahead of us. And instead of settling for common way of making mullahs by making masala movies, takes up socially relevant issues (never mind if he still makes the mullahs).

He makes us aware of the problem; tells us that it is WE who can help solve it.

Awareness is the beginning.

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Ankur

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: undisclosed
i like the quote...i am not going to assume any implication...but the truth is that its important to find the root of the problem...that is the only way to fix it...but its not a matter of simply pointing at the present "kings"...the reasons for such behaiviors run deep...and have been passed from generation to generation...

@undisclosed.

One of the main reasons for such deep-rooted social and personal ills is the ignorance and blind faith that results from lack of education.

In case of child abuse, I think the mother and the father, in that order, have the greatest role to play.

A girl who is 6 year old has no reason to lie to the mother about some 55 year old highly respected man touching her inappropriately. So if she tells her mother once, how the hell the abuse can go on for a decade without the mother and father even having a faintest of ideas, never mind the fact that the abused child never told them??

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Ankur

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: -Vishwa-
I agree with the above person, I really like the quote and the way it is stated but according to me, the King would be our "government" who really needs to focus on improving the country then just stating the facts and saying things. Aamir has really helped the society and is trying to make a move as a citizen of the country. But when the government does not want to listen then what can the speaker do...

Vishwa, yes, the Government is responsible for not coming down heavily on many a things like flourishing business of child sex determination, etc. But here too WE, both rich and poor, are to be blamed in the first place. Again in the matter of Child sex Abuse, the Government can pass a new, stronger legislation, or enforce the existing Penal laws more vigorously, but it is WE , again rich and poor, who indulge in the crime. So it is always going to be WE and the GOVERNMENT, in varying proportion, who should be blamed for each ill.

I was disappointed to observe that in episode 2 on child abuse, none of the perverts seem to have been put behind the bars. What can the government or laws do in such cases?

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Freethinker112

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Agreed. Knowledge is the key. As rightly said,

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.
Teach a man how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

But knowledge cannot always avoid crime. As we saw in the first episode, one woman told about her in laws who were highly educated. It will not stop the preparator. But victims can benefit from it. Knowledge will give them the understanding that what bad can happen to them, how to prevent it, or how to report it. So, it is very important to raise awareness.

And government isn't alone to blame. It's very easy to shift blame and get free from responsibilities. And that's why we are not progressing. We have been waiting for government to just magically convert everyone into saint. But surprise, that ain't happening. Government makes laws but how is it supposed to be omnipresent? It is against law to abort based on sex, but people do it. It's illegal to take dowry but people take it. Does government offers dowry or abortion? No, people do it. So, who has to stop? The people. We make the government, they are not some aliens. So, the real power lies within us.

I am not saying that government is a saint. Laws can be tighter and they need to make sure that it is strictly followed. But the bottom line is that social malpractices originates in people and will stop when people fix their mentality. Government can't babysit a billion people. So, it's time we stop playing pass-the-blame and take some responsibility. Decide not to do wrong and not to see wrong happening, and then see if crime happens.

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