How they presented Aaliya?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aaliya was presented as a lonely girl who has no one and is an aspiring model or actress. She is in bars and parties. She has such a palatial house which even Bachchan and SRK achieved in mumbai after years of struggle.It a palace.

All these things point to something very distasteful. I just dont want to spell it out.
No respectable woman will be portrayed like this.

This can happen only in a fantasy world.

And she is in the middle of the road unconscious to top it all.

Is Ranveer ethically right in making a simple Aaliya from a respectable houselhold to go through this just to take revenge which is his personal thing? Throwing an innocent lamb in front of a tiger?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I know what you are hinting at, but Aaliya is acting as Mehreen, and she is going to places where she knows MP will be at but that doesn't mean she is no longer a respectable girl. She is just doing a job.

And your view is slightly incorrect as there are many young women in the world who achieve a lot in life and don't follow a disrespectful path. Women work hard to achieve a lot, and some are simply born into families who have wealth. So the show isn't showing Aaliya earned her wealth in a disrespectful way. It is portraying her as an independent girl, who has earned her wealth, and this is the impression they want to give to MP. And besides we know Ranveer has given her the house so I don't really understand why Aaliya's actions may seem distasteful..

Lastly I completely disagree with the last point you made. Ranveer isn't using Aaliya to get revenge on MP for personal reasons.. No disrespect but it seems like you've been watching a different show.. Ranveer is trying to get MP because MP ruins other people's lives, and he kills innocents. He is a terrorist who is against his own country. Ranveer is simply protecting his country, and he is being helped by Aaliya to do this. Of course Ranveer has had firsthand experience of how MP is, and this has made him even more determined to get MP, but not because he wants revenge but so that MP can't ruin the lives of others like he did Ranveer's. So therefore I think Ranveer is doing an honourable job as is Aaliya.

No offence intended to anyone. This is simply my opinion.😊

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Posted: 13 years ago
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In advanced countries like USA, Mehreen will not be looked down upon. But in India, even in Mumbai where I am living, even highly educated people are very prejudiced and Aaliya is without any companion.
My Mumbai is full of independent women but they are careful about their images as well. A woman cant even buy a pack of cigarettes without being sneered at. Cant visit bars alone, even high class ones.
And druglords like MP are not as respectful towards women as MP is.
Even for the sake of a good cause, a woman cant be sacrificed like that.
If MP makes some enquiries with his power, the truth will be out in no time.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey I completely disagree with you!
You live in Mumbai so models and actresses who work in the entertainment industry are common! So why call anyone's job disrespective? Its their job! It is only the outlook of conservative peop!
Mehreen is a model so does that make her disrespectful!
Ranveer's personal experience maybe a factor but what he is doing will largely benefit the people!@!
Edited by Shreya_94 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shreya_94

Hey I completely disagree with you!

You live in Mumbai so models and actresses who work in the entertainment industry are common! So why call anyone's job disrespective? Its their job! It is only the outlook of conservative peop!
Mehreen is a model so does that make her disrespective!
Ranveer's personal experience maybe a factor but what he is doing will largely benefit the people!@!



Models and actresses are not disrespected per se.If the model is quite well established, then she need not face the problems strugglers face.

Any single girl, if not accompanied, if she is quite unknown, is targetted.

In mumbai, even Valentine's day cant be celebrated without moral police spoiling the fun.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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What I want to emphasize is, impressionable young girls must not be carried away by Mehreen's example of having a glamorous but adventurous life. They may pack their bags and try their luck.😉

Mehreen has Ranveer as bodyguard. Every other girl may not have that luck.

Mumbai is a city of dreams being fulfilled. But it is also a city of nightmares with criminals lurking everywhere.
Edited by leavesandwaves - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves



Is Ranveer ethically right in making a simple Aaliya from a respectable houselhold to go through this just to take revenge which is his personal thing? Throwing an innocent lamb in front of a tiger?



to some extent i agree with this ... be it a personal revenge or country's sake ranveer has instigated aaliya's patriotism to succeed in his mission & made her agree to take that injection which is very risky , a girl can risk her life but not her izzat for anything ...she would have probably undergone molestation if mp didnt took care of her that night ,there are too many men in his house so anything might have happened ...& aaliya was not even scared when her clothes were changed 😆, does that mean aaliya was mentally prepared to undergo any sort of disgusting things that night 😕

only thing i can say is both ranveer & aaliya are having too much trust on MP 😆
both MP & aaliya are totally unreal characters 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

In advanced countries like USA, Mehreen will not be looked down upon. But in India, even in Mumbai where I am living, even highly educated people are very prejudiced and Aaliya is without any companion.
My Mumbai is full of independent women but they are careful about their images as well. A woman cant even buy a pack of cigarettes without being sneered at. Cant visit bars alone, even high class ones.
And druglords like MP are not as respectful towards women as MP is.
Even for the sake of a good cause, a woman cant be sacrificed like that.
If MP makes some enquiries with his power, the truth will be out in no time.



But in the show it is not showing us that so we should base Aaliya's character on what we see not what happens in our reality. And it is quite clear that Aaliya has the support of Ranveer and whatever she is doing, she is doing it for her country..
And I don't think Aaliya is being sacrificed for anyone. She is doing a job. It's not like anyone is making her change or do something that goes against her morals. She is doing everything out of her own choice.. If she ever has to do anything which goes against her morals and beliefs then it could be said that she is being sacrificed or that she is sacrificing herself, but that hasn't happened yet..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shazna123



But in the show it is not showing us that so we should base Aaliya's character on what we see not what happens in our reality. And it is quite clear that Aaliya has the support of Ranveer and whatever she is doing, she is doing it for her country..
And I don't think Aaliya is being sacrificed for anyone. She is doing a job. It's not like anyone is making her change or do something that goes against her morals. She is doing everything out of her own choice.. If she ever has to do anything which goes against her morals and beliefs then it could be said that she is being sacrificed or that she is sacrificing herself, but that hasn't happened yet..
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Aaliya is being forced from day one. She is emotionally blackmailed in the name of the country. In every episode, we see how reluctant she is. She has to tell lies to her sister who loves her like a daughter.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

Aaliya was presented as a lonely girl who has no one and is an aspiring model or actress. She is in bars and parties. She has such a palatial house which even Bachchan and SRK achieved in mumbai after years of struggle.It a palace.

All these things point to something very distasteful. I just dont want to spell it out.
No respectable woman will be portrayed like this.

This can happen only in a fantasy world.

And she is in the middle of the road unconscious to top it all.

Is Ranveer ethically right in making a simple Aaliya from a respectable houselhold to go through this just to take revenge which is his personal thing? Throwing an innocent lamb in front of a tiger?

hi sweets ... ok i agree with you to a extent ...
malika was very worried abt the injection n leaving her on the road unconsious ...i dont agree with that part ... it just seemed very risky .. because every girl would wantto protect her izaat ...and by agreeing to takingthe injection ...it could have compormised that ... beacuse if though ranveer knows mp ...wouldnt do that ...men are men ...they cant be trust i love mp but...like they say been are dogs ...they usually want onething ...we all know that ..thank god mp isnt like that ...
but 1 thing i didnt get is like jas metioned ...inher comment ...when alliya woke up why didnt she qustion why her clothes were changed ...or get worried ..i but freak out if i woke up in astrange mans house n i find my self wearing his clothes i would cry ... just the thought of what could have happend ... thank god mp was sweet enough to aska woman to change her 😳
what scares me the most is after marriage yaar... she might have to get physically close to him..fulfill the duties of a wife ... for the sake of her country ...this part i dont agree with at all ...
this is a big nooo for me ... since this is a short term shaadi ... why sacracfice your taan maan..to some man you dont love for this...if it could be avoided it would be better ... but im sure they wont show that in the show ...atleast i hope
ok now for were i disagree with you
its the 21st century ...come on ...girls go clubing ...parties and all . they show mehreen as a model and in such careers ...ppl have to network ...networking is everything ..so thats what they show .. her going to those places to gain contacts ...not doing n e thing wrong...
and as for her house ...maybe they have show her that her family left her the wealth ... so whats wrong in that ...aalia hasnt it done anything for her to be ashamed of her self...they showed mehreen to be the woman of today
independent... play hard workhard kinda girl ...and if u think her drinking wine is bad ...that is pov ...
drinking isnt that big of a deal these days ... but i myself dont drink ...but i understand if girls want to its there choice
but good topic
Edited by lalmirch28 - 13 years ago

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