Hum Saath Saath Hain - In Pia's defence!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Haila, I can already see the Fabulous Foursome, Anu, Raaga and the rest of the Cuddly-Wuddly gang coming after me with angry icons, but I just had a thought and since, I made my kid bunk his school today (Its raining, my Car has gone off and I had no way to get to the School....Lolz...Excuses for me!) and had some time in hand, I thought why not put up a small defence in favour of Pia!😉😆

Firstly, I still stand by what I wrote in my update yesteday, what Pia said to Jai, was to an extent perfectly correct! What did she say wrong? Jai did take out his frustrations of Pia running out on him through Bani, didn't he? What else was he doing all these months? Jai did not leave one opportunity to demean, debase and destroy Bani's self-respect, her spirit and her self-esteem, the only thing he left intact was her honor and that really redeemed Jai in our eyes! Jai did not take any unneccessary advantage of Bani and kept away from her, but he used every other tactic to emotionally batter Bani!

Secondly, Pia was correct when she tells Jai that when he knew that Bani was drugged, why didn't he stop her or better still stop himself! This is correct in one sense, Jai might have been drunk that night, but he was fully in his senses and knowing that Bani doesn't love him and that he also doesn't love her and that they were going to get divorced in a few days, how ethical was Jai in sleeping with his wife! See, this is a very controversial point and I know a lot of rebuttal will come for this, but when Jai told Pia yesterday, that he knew what happened was a mistake, then what made him do it in the first place! It was Lust all the way for Jai......the Love was only sub-conscious, Jai realized his love for Bani much later and he was surely not acting out of love when he slept with Bani! It was more of his repression and attraction for Bani which came to fore that night, it was only Bani, who acted on love!

Thirdly, we are all talking about what right Pia has to interfere in Bani's life! Well, the same right that Bani had in interfering in Pia and Rano's life all through! Bani was the one who persuaded Pia and Pushkar to get married, later she was the one who stood against Jai and Pia's marraige, then she was the one who warned Pia not to betray Jai. The most agonizing part, Bani took Pia's place in the marriage with Jai, why did she do that? Because she knew that if she does not become the shield for Pia, then Jai will destroy Pia and Pushkar's life! Same goes with Rano, why did Bani keep quiet about Saahil and Rano's love and supported Saahil and Raashi's marriage instead of her own sister!

If Bani had a right to not only interfere but make important decisions for both her sisters, then I think Pia has atleast the right to speak on behalf of her sister! Just because Bani is elder to Pia doesn't mean that Pia being the younger one can't defend her sister!

Pia has no idea of what is happening in her sister's life, except that the relationship between Jai and Bani has bettered than before, all she knows is that Jai is still going to divorce her.....and that is what Jai has been telling Bani and the whole world! Hence, it was obvious that as a concerned and loving sister, Pia was shocked and disgusted to know that the man who was going to leave her young and helpless sister in a few days had got her pregnant! The first thought that must have struck Pia was how grossly unfair life has been to Bani.......As she said yesterday, we have all destroyed Bani one by one, But you have been the last nail on the Coffin......

In saying that Pia will not let the child come into this World, she is only acting her own childish, immature self.....but she is thinking about her sister's life....A sister who is still so young, so vulnerable and completely alone in the World.....Pia is obviously getting insecure and protective about Bani and is giving the most rationale and logical argument.....that if the Father of the Child doesn't love Bani, then what is the point in having his Child and bringing him into the World? Pia might have been stupid and immature in making this statement, but she is also being protective and concerned for her sister!

If Pia was the reason that Bani got into a torturous marriage, then Jai is equally responsible for making a living hell out of Bani's life! If Pia broke Bani's trust, Jai has broken Bani completely.......

The final word is that my sympathies are with Jai, but this time Pia is not wrong in what she told Jai and he deserved every bit of the blasting off he got (Mind you, he defended himself pretty well!) and basically, Bani has become the scrap goat of everyone else's mistakes!😭

Ok, waiting for the brickbats.......😆

Cheers,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Apki dimag bhi Ekta ki jaise chal rahihai....

The story line moves with silly thinking by one or another. That's OK with serials where there need not be any reality.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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though i don't like pia's character much,i would also agree that pia was not wrong.she was concerned for her sister.everything she said to jai was becuse she was very concerned about bani's future.though i am not happy for jai,still i can't blame pia for saying all that.she was very much right there,according to me.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Sorry, but I do not agree to this !!! When did she stand up for Di ? Well they say that the three sisters love eachother but were Pia and Rano so much busy with their own lives that they forgot Bani ? When Pia has problems she comes to Di, talks to Di about it.... did she ever ask Bani how was she adjusting ? She looks happy when Jai and Bani dance together on Kuch na Kaho..... She looks happy when Jai puts the necklace on Bani.....yet she does not ask her if her Di loves Mr Walia... She has just assumed that Di cannot love Mr Walia......Is this not wrong ?

She has no right whatsoever to barge on to Jai and talk about Bani. Did she talk to Bani first ? Even when Pushkar and Pia had problems Bani listened to Pia first not asked Pushkar what the problem is !! Mt when you say that Bani stood against Jai and got Pia and PUshkar married.....we are forgetting that was what even Pia wanted....so whatever Bani did was after consent of Pia and Rano.

So I think Pia's stand was totally wrong today. Had she talked about all this to Bani first I would have understood her worry about Bani....but i think she is just set to point fingers at Jai without understanding the reality.......

I think Jai and Bani need a confrontation first before the entire world takes their stand !!

Jai is behaving stupidly is totally a different topic for discussion... i am not even going there......the entire night would go and i would not have said anything abt Jai....😆

Edited by pmtwist - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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i agree wid you mt, watever pia did was correct and i also agree that if jai doesn't love bani than wats da point of bringing the child in this world!!!why should bani give birth to the child when jai doesn't love her?
bani has suffered alot bec of jai!!! and sorry to say this but jai also desrve some pain!!!!!!that would be fair!!
but i really want jai to confess his feeling for bani 😭 i want to see them together 😭 😭
love,
Aragon
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: pmtwist

Sorry, but I do not agree to this !!! When did she stand up for Di ? Well they say that the three sisters love eachother but were Pia and Rano so much busy with their own lives that they forgot Bani ? When Pia has problems she comes to Di, talks to Di about it.... did she ever ask Bani how was she adjusting ? She looks happy when Jai and Bani dance together on Kuch na Kaho..... She looks happy when Jai puts the necklace on Bani.....yet she does not ask her if her Di loves Mr Walia... She has just assumed that Di cannot love Mr Walia......Is this not wrong ?

She has no right whatsoever to barge on to Jai and talk about Bani. Did she talk to Bani first ? Even when Pushkar and Pia had problems Bani listened to Pia first not asked Pushkar what the problem is !! Mt when you say that Bani stood against Jai and got Pia and PUshkar married.....we are forgetting that was what even Pia wanted....so whatever Bani did was after consent of Pia and Rano.

So I think Pia's stand was totally wrong today. Had she talked about all this to Bani first I would have understood her worry about Bani....but i think she is just set to point fingers at Jai without understanding the reality.......

Jai is behaving stupidly is totally a different topic for discussion... i am not even going there......the entire night would go and i would not have said anything abt Jai....😆

you got a point!!

ok i think pia should've talked to bani first!!... it doesn't make sense why would she talk to jai first? jai is not even her jeeju so why him first?i think watever pia did was right but it should've been after talking to bani!!

aragon

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: pmtwist

Sorry, but I do not agree to this !!! When did she stand up for Di ? Well they say that the three sisters love eachother but were Pia and Rano so much busy with their own lives that they forgot Bani ? When Pia has problems she comes to Di, talks to Di about it.... did she ever ask Bani how was she adjusting ? She looks happy when Jai and Bani dance together on Kuch na Kaho..... She looks happy when Jai puts the necklace on Bani.....yet she does not ask her if her Di loves Mr Walia... She has just assumed that Di cannot love Mr Walia......Is this not wrong ?

She has no right whatsoever to barge on to Jai and talk about Bani. Did she talk to Bani first ? Even when Pushkar and Pia had problems Bani listened to Pia first not asked Pushkar what the problem is !! Mt when you say that Bani stood against Jai and got Pia and PUshkar married.....we are forgetting that was what even Pia wanted....so whatever Bani did was after consent of Pia and Rano.

So I think Pia's stand was totally wrong today. Had she talked about all this to Bani first I would have understood her worry about Bani....but i think she is just set to point fingers at Jai without understanding the reality.......

I think Jai and Bani need a confrontation first before the entire world takes their stand !!

Jai is behaving stupidly is totally a different topic for discussion... i am not even going there......the entire night would go and i would not have said anything abt Jai....😆

😆 Yaar PMTwist, tu toh meri sakhi thi, I didn't count friends to come barging on me! Lolz...Just joking, let me come up with a good line to counter-answer your post.....Still dreading Anu, Raaga and the Fab Four to come charging......😆

Anu toh mujhe maar hi daalegi!😆

I agree that Jai is a confirmed cracko and we have to get a seperate post on him, debating whether Jai has better quality sperms or better quality brains......😆

Cheerios,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I am wid U on this one MT. 👏 👏 👏 It was about time that someone levelled with Jai Walia one on one. Jai is such a confused and multilayered character that sometimes even he has no clue of what he wants. On the other hand Pia is straightforward she layed out the whole situation in front of Jai and now maybe that can make him think!! Pia said the unspoken truth between Jai and BANI, Which basically is that both of them have not acknowleged their feelings towards each other! This was very necessary cauz its best wen tings r out in the open and clear! Jai Walia plays double games on one side he is all lovey-dovey wid Bani and on the other he is asking for a divorce. It was right Of Pia to infrom Jai that he cannot play these double standard games wid Bani and he better get clear in head about wat he wants.
Edited by suku - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Haila, I can already see the Fabulous Foursome, Anu, Raaga and the rest of the Cuddly-Wuddly gang coming after me with angry icons, but I just had a thought and since, I made my kid bunk his school today (Its raining, my Car has gone off and I had no way to get to the School....Lolz...Excuses for me!) and had some time in hand, I thought why not put up a small defence in favour of Pia!

MT...usually I dare not reply to ur mssgs because u articulate so well and therefore I keep my whining for the AF to tolerate but am still taking a stab at a portion of this. I can't reply fully-properly because I haven't watched the video but am replying to the portion not video related. And chances are more likely I'll be a loner here w/this train of thought then u getting plenty of these---😡😡😡...

Firstly, I still stand by what I wrote in my update yesteday, what Pia said to Jai, was to an extent perfectly correct! What did she say wrong? Jai did take out his frustrations of Pia running out on him through Bani, didn't he? What else was he doing all these months? Jai did not leave one opportunity to demean, debase and destroy Bani's self-respect, her spirit and her self-esteem, the only thing he left intact was her honor and that really redeemed Jai in our eyes! Jai did not take any unneccessary advantage of Bani and kept away from her, but he used every other tactic to emotionally batter Bani!



Bani didn't have to really tolerate (atleast all) his devilish behavior. JW hain toh kya hua. Sure it would've been hard as hell but couldn't have been worse then wat he was already putting her through where she was worth less then dirt at the bottom of his shoes. The kalimaa avtaar she recently showed would've been FULLY justified then...and it would've been...'Go Bani...Go Bani...'

Thirdly, we are all talking about what right Pia has to interfere in Bani's life! Well, the same right that Bani had in interfering in Pia and Rano's life all through! Bani was the one who persuaded Pia and Pushkar to get married, later she was the one who stood against Jai and Pia's marraige, then she was the one who warned Pia not to betray Jai. The most agonizing part, Bani took Pia's place in the marriage with Jai, why did she do that? Because she knew that if she does not become the shield for Pia, then Jai will destroy Pia and Pushkar's life!



This is a personal issue I've had w/alot of Kketa heroines be it Bani or Kkusum or Tulsi or whomever else---their over-mahanta factor. At times it is best to step back and keep silent. In fairness to Bani I feel she served more to do damage-control in certain situations whereas Pia's immaturity and impulsive personality usually just heightened the tension in any situation.

Can't say much abt the rest of this because again have not seen the episode. To me wat bugged the most I think was that it was Pia of all ppl that was there standing giving this lamba bhasan. She is one of the last ppl in KS right next to Roshni and Jigs to have any right to turn philosophical and reasonable on other ppl. Her defending her sister I can attempt to understand but reflecting back on her history and her whole character it was just not justified or digestable. As for considering all that Bani has done for Pia and Puskar...don't think she's ever really handled the situation like this. Must give her the credit where it's due.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I totally agree with MT on this one....Pia has a right to interview in Bani's life as a person who is even if in small amounts concerned for her sister's welfare. She is the same Pia who fell at Jai Walia's feet, begging him to direct his anger on her rather than her hapless sister. She has always been on Bani's side in this relationship, be it when Jai humiliated Bani and Rano and threw them out of the house, When Jai left Bani alone to be with Roshni at the party. She has atleast been upfront about the fact that Bani's life is ruined because of her...
And lets look at Jai....Egocentric and self centred to the core. As his instrument of his revenge from Pia, he kept harassing Bani. No ...he never asserted himself over her physically. But every other kind of pain he could give her, he did....I still refuse to believe that he wants Bani to stay with him for the love he has for her...Its more for the child....Egad...How selfish can he get

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