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Posted: 13 years ago
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SUPERBBB POST, Umz :) My comments in purple :)

Originally posted by: canuck-umz

So I decided to make a topic since quite a few things happened today. Personally I enjoyed the episode since it allowed me to relax and remove some of my stress due to exam. I was smiling throughout the episode. This was important because we can see a shift in dynamics, we know bigger things are too come and a lot more drama. The Virman relationship will have many implications.


Today's episode was def a treat to watch- mix bag of everything! and YES, great stress reliever; just had exam this morning so watched episode in the evening and it was bang on! Just like you, had a smile on my face throughout the episode :)

1. Swamini seems to have gone back to disliking Manvi so yay! It just feels normal when Swamini is against Manvi, it keeps the proceedings very interesting.

I KNEW IT!!!!! Swamini- hypocritical character! All of that Manvi did upon her insistence went down the drain- as in Maya and Manvi's efforts!!! If Manvi had any feelings toward Virat as to what Swamini thinks, why would she go beyond measures and help you to patch up Maya and Virat while IGNORING herself-knowing that she has cancer but she wanted to make it all better for them before she left for Chandigarh!!! As mentioned in previous posts, I knew Swamini would go back to hating Manvi once she finds out that Virat loves her- without keeping in mind that Manvi has not cleared her position in all this (or atleast we have not seen Manvi feeling anything for Virat)!!! But yes atleast Swamini's character is back to what she was and more BELIEVABLE!!

2. My favourite scene of today was the VV brothers conversation. I love their bond, it's the type that all normal siblings share. Sweaty, angry, intense Virat looks hot and like eyes wide shut aka doc said, Virat is back in his element. I felt for the guy in that scene because Manvi did betray his trust so he had every right to be upset. Anyways, I loved Viren's dialogues and the way he delivered them. Both the VV brothers were amazing here, Virat listening silently to his brother, you could see his facial expressions changing from anger, to sadness, to confusion, to realization, then to happiness. As for Viren you could see his expressions change from concern, to confusion, to happiness then to sheer excitement. Pay attention to their faces here guys.

VIREN- total show stealer!!!! Their bonding was well portrayed; especially the I love you that they shared at the end of their phone convo! Virat's anger was justified to some extent BUT my issue is that in all of this, CVs messed up Virat's character who was known to be smart and would pick up even the smallest hints in no time and would be in action (during Viren's wedding- the Jaiswal person attack, Manvi lying when she couldnt come to the wedding, Manvi sick during engagement, etc). So, as Virat is stating that he patched up with Maya UPON MANVI'S projection of Maya being good, etc- I feel like as If I am hearing a kid talk- I mean, Manvi did initiate everything, BUT is he that dumb to move on just on those basis?! AND even now, he would NOT have seen Maya's reality if Viren had not planted a seed in his mind AND nor would he have realized his feelings for Manvi if it wasn't for Viren?! So, in all of this- WHERE IS THE REAL VIRAT?! Going by Virat's latest convos- god forbid, if something goes wrong between him and Manvi (which obviously won't happe- they would show Virman as a couple after all the hurdles) or it doesn't work out- Would Virat hold Viren responsible for all of that since he planted the seed or initiated him?!

But otherwise, the scene was well projected; Viren's dialogues were very natural and obviously made an INSTANT effect on Virat lol! Viren is ecstatic for his brother for (1) Maya went from his life before ruining his future AND (2) Viren's wish and feeling came true regarding him and Manvi- he always wanted that to happen as Manvi would be perfect for Virat!

3. Virat and his flashbacks then doing his trademark punching something this time it was hitting the punching bag again. The symbolism here was the punching bag came back to wack him in the face. Made me laugh yet it symbolized the fact that realization had finally hit him, he is in love. Loved the flashbacks because they reminded us of what Virman are.

HAHA, yea that punching bag definitely RANG A BELL and LIT A BULB on Virat's head!

4. The background music was beautiful loved how they finally brought in the romantic Kya Hua track.

Awesome track converted into a slow background- PROPS!

5. Jeevika and Viren, we got to see how much Jeevika knows her husband. She really is in tune with him. Viren's antics today were really cute and funny so props to him.

I just LOVED LOVED LOVED that 2 secs of Jeevika's look seeing Viren so happy!!!! Def in sync with him- able to pick up his facial expressions!!! And like I have been saying- Jeevika's character is evolving day by day- that comfort level is vivid through her body language, behaviour, talks etc! Wayy too Go, wohoo :) And Viren at his classic best- reminds of his drunk scenes at times- hes too good!

6. I was happy to see Vanshika but I had really wished they would have shown her reaction to the Virat Maya breakup. I have always felt Vanshika is sidelined and they need to put more focus on her rather than Swamini all the time but the breakfast scene was well done because I saw free flow of movement something we had come to love about EHM earlier.

I don't know how many times I will point this out and now its almost getting to the point of frustration lol but CVs need to show Vanshika's character more and show her input!!! Swamini, as if she is not hogging enough limelight, is sidelining Vanshika which is at times unbelievable too!!! Like the REAL mother has no say in her son's affairs and BHUA is just taking all the credit showing as if she cares the most about Virat and Viren out of all them! I understand that with Viren as it is established since beginning of the show that Viren is more closer to Swamini & Vanshika accepted that throughout the wedding of Viren and giving Swamini a chance to do all the rights BUT why Virat?! He does not share similar bonding- they have shown some tiffs amongst those too- so why is Swamini hell bent on taking everything into her hands as if shes the GOD?!!!! I love Vanshika- her bonding with Manvi from Day 1 was superb and I would LOVE to see more of that emerging now since its matter about Virat and Manvi!!!! Like I have genuinely felt great chemistry between Manvi and Vanshika- rem the scene where Vanshika was in the store room, showing Virat and Viren's things, when Manvi came to chandigarh- THAT SCENE WAS EPIC!!! Vanshika clearly stated that she has found two daughters now- Jeevika and Manvi and Manvi replied back with same emotion that if she had her mother in Vanshika!!! Back then, I thought that why is Vanshika doing all this with Manvi- I mean considering it was Jeevika who was about to enter their household, they should have used the same scene to show Jeevika and Vanshika's bonding- BUT, now all of that fits into pieces- Vanshika regarded as a member of the family- not an outsider and in fact stood up for Manvi many times!!!!! I cannot wait to see (thats if CVs show) Vanshika's take on all this!!!!

7. This is the one negative I have. The journey to Rishikesh scene with the song was wayyy too unrealistic for me. This is not Virman, this is not typical of them. I just feel they could have executed this better and made it more realistic and in line with the characterization of Virman but Virat's expressions were cute none the less.

Yea- again not sync at all- I mean first even the realization came across as a abrupt one for me personally- Yea I am happy with track moving ahead- but if all of that done in subtle manner (like Virat feeling for Manvi from last few days, his own realization perhaps before Viren got to him), would have been more believable. I am sure even others in the house and Manvi herself would find this sudden realization of his to be surprising and shocking- like yesterday he was with Maya and now suddenly Manvi? lol... But yea- ONE THING that helped me from this scene- I AM FINALLY ABLE TO VISUALIZE VIRMAN AS ROMANTIC PAIR- we all knew they were to be paired but I still couldnt imagine that- seeing their friendship and teasing convos- it was little hard to wrap my head around that but with this, it has helped to see them as a couple!! Loved Nia's red outfit with hair open in song though; seeing romantic Nia would be treat to watch since so far we have only seen her witty, emotional with sister, etc but romantic angel should def be worth the watch!!!!!

8. I want to see what Jeevika does tomorrow. She may call up Manvi to warn her and that's why Manvi will fight with Virat saying that she is always blamed while Virat tries to tell her how he feels or Jeevika won't do anything (something she good at) and Manvi will just be surprised when he appears. Anyways, there may be a chance that we get a behna scene, either a phone call or Jeevika just worrying about Manvi and being possessive about her, either scenario is welcome.

I don't even wanna go there lol- can't imagine what Jeevika would do or lack thereof! But I am guessing more than that, we would see her anger/tiff with Viren (as per SBS) and little irritated perhaps that Viren's bet came true. But again, she might think Virat is doing that only because Viren planted it in his hand since she still has not witnessed what Viren has! Maybe during cancer track, Jeevika will witness Virat's love for Manvi and be sure that he is right for her! But I can understand her uneasiness, hesitance, regarding all this- after she is her Manvi- her sister, her daughter, everything- protectiveness is justified and I also imagine Jeevika having hard time wrapping her head around Manvi being in love and seeing her as a couple with Virat!!!!! But, all I can is, this show is just getting better day by day and I cannot wait to see how it unfolds ahead!!!!


PHEWW lol- have fun reading this!!! I hope I made sense though as I wrote all this in one go!!! Great posts like yours make me obligated to reply!!!! Now with all this writing, I apologize for massively invading your post lol!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Canuck_Umz Agreed with what you said in context to that post; didn't wanna quote that thing again to consume more space than I already did lol. But yea you are right, show has def shown pace since holi and they are giving viewers what they wanted, just hope amidst all this, they don't ruin the characters or over do everything and ruin few subtle moments here and there. Little tiff between Jeevika and Viren would be good to watch- like you said getting like sugary! But I bet Viren would come up with innovative ways to console and pacify Jeevika :)


And as for exams, (thank you for asking) I had criminology exam which went REALLY well maybe cuz I studied way too much than it was required lol and I have one coming up on tue for my other elective class. And for other 2 criminology classes, there is no exam but there is a term papers due in about 2 weeks which are worth same grade as an exam. So, yea after that I would have break for about 2 weeks or 4 months depending on if I get seat for summer semester classes lol. And what about you? I think I saw you mentioning about exams in your posts too? How are those coming along for you?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My comments in Blue :)

Originally posted by: canuck-umz

So I decided to make a topic since quite a few things happened today.

Finally one more discussion topic - should i make an appreciation post...or NO...😆 Personally I enjoyed the episode since it allowed me to relax and remove some of my stress due to exam. I was smiling throughout the episode. This was important because we can see a shift in dynamics, we know bigger things are too come and a lot more drama. The Virman relationship will have many implications.

1. Swamini seems to have gone back to disliking Manvi so yay! It just feels normal when Swamini is against Manvi, it keeps the proceedings very interesting.
Exactly...i too prefer Swamini not liking Manvi...the whole thng of Manvi setting up virat and maya..just to get in gud buks of swamini was sumthng i really din get...nd also it din suit manvis character...so Swamini Manvi relationship bk to old is nice...!!

2. My favourite scene of today was the VV brothers conversation. I love their bond, it's the type that all normal siblings share. Sweaty, angry, intense Virat looks hot and like eyes wide shut aka doc said, Virat is back in his element. I felt for the guy in that scene because Manvi did betray his trust so he had every right to be upset. Anyways, I loved Viren's dialogues and the way he delivered them. Both the VV brothers were amazing here, Virat listening silently to his brother, you could see his facial expressions changing from anger, to sadness, to confusion, to realization, then to happiness. As for Viren you could see his expressions change from concern, to confusion, to happiness then to sheer excitement. Pay attention to their faces here guys.

Vadhera bros always rock...their scenes are so mature...nd totally brotherly...the way Viren guided Virat ...to cum out of the solid confusion was nice to see...Thanks to tackers acting...the calm Viren came out amazingly...He made virat realize his love...thts a huge thng...!!!

3. Virat and his flashbacks then doing his trademark punching something this time it was hitting the punching bag again. The symbolism here was the punching bag came back to wack him in the face. Made me laugh yet it symbolized the fact that realization had finally hit him, he is in love. Loved the flashbacks because they reminded us of what Virman are.

4. The background music was beautiful loved how they finally brought in the romantic Kya Hua track.
I too liked the bg music and the romantic version of Kya hua...its nice :)

5. Jeevika and Viren, we got to see how much Jeevika knows her husband. She really is in tune with him. Viren's antics today were really cute and funny so props to him.
Viren was on cloud nine...he always wnted Virat manvi to hook up...nd it was a dream cum true for tht guy...!!!

6. I was happy to see Vanshika but I had really wished they would have shown her reaction to the Virat Maya breakup. I have always felt Vanshika is sidelined and they need to put more focus on her rather than Swamini all the time but the breakfast scene was well done because I saw free flow of movement something we had come to love about EHM earlier.

7. This is the one negative I have. The journey to Rishikesh scene with the song was wayyy too unrealistic for me. This is not Virman, this is not typical of them. I just feel they could have executed this better and made it more realistic and in line with the characterization of Virman but Virat's expressions were cute none the less.

Filminess is sumthng this show has always shown...the first meet of virika was also filmy...nd epic for me...my fav scene till date...But i agree...Virika being filmy suits them nd they carry it off well...But with virman...nah...i just cnt imagine them in tht way...thts my opinion ONLY!

8. I want to see what Jeevika does tomorrow. She may call up Manvi to warn her and that's why Manvi will fight with Virat saying that she is always blamed while Virat tries to tell her how he feels or Jeevika won't do anything (something she good at) and Manvi will just be surprised when he appears. Anyways, there may be a chance that we get a behna scene, either a phone call or Jeevika just worrying about Manvi and being possessive about her, either scenario is welcome.

Now i really wnt our Jeevika to get thinking...i mean lady...u need to realize wht will happen if virman happens...Manvi has always caused turbulence in Vadhera house whenever she has cum...if she cums into the house as the DIL...Vadheras are not just gonna be...😃
I dun wnt her to agree to this relation at all...she needs to thnk of it...rather thn being in the kitchen or folding clothes..!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Tara: hahahaha I loved how you pointed out "its my opinion ONLY"; after all that shit went down yesterday, I think that disclaimer was needed lol. Abh to kuch kehte huye bhi dar hi lagta hai ki kahin ulta naa padh jaaye lol!!! But Yea I agree with your points too- concise and clear :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amii90

@Tara: hahahaha I loved how you pointed out "its my opinion ONLY"; after all that shit went down yesterday, I think that disclaimer was needed lol. Abh to kuch kehte huye bhi dar hi lagta hai ki kahin ulta naa padh jaaye lol!!! But Yea I agree with your points too- concise and clear :)


U need to...pata nahi kiska dimaag khisak jaaye...aur kya soche...!!!!

Nd thnks...i agree with ur points of how...virats character is ruined...it absolutely is...the guy left music coz he was dumped...and he was dumped by her for their careers sake...this aspect can never ever mk me hv any respect for tht character...ever until CVs decide to show a proper nd mature backstory to Virat maya first breakup which i highly doubt they will...Again its MY OPINION ONLY😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Umz so sorry for replying so late. I agree with you completely that driving sequence with the song did not suit Virman's relationship. It felt out of place I think realization of love is a beautiful process and could be an opportunity to achieve cinematic brilliance but sadly this opportunity was missed 😲 I think Virman are dynamic that they deserve better now that I think about it I think all the characters deserve better from this writing team!

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