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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorrro

Being a "minority" in India has certain privilleges 😆


Read this one :

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The Trouble with Dr. Zakir Naik


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By SADANAND DHUME

If you're looking for a snapshot of India's hapless response to radical Islam, then look no further than Bombay-based cleric Dr. Zakir Naik. In India, the 44-year-old Dr. Naik—a medical doctor by training and a televangelist by vocation—is a widely respected figure, feted by newspapers and gushed over by television anchors. The British, however, want no part of him. On Friday, the newly elected Conservative-led government announced that it would not allow Dr. Naik to enter Britain to deliver a series of lectures. According to Home Secretary Theresa May, the televangelist has made "numerous comments" that are evidence of his "unacceptable behavior."

The good doctor's views run the gamut from nutty to vile, so it's hard to pinpoint which of them has landed him in trouble. For instance, though Dr. Naik has condemned terrorism, at times he also appears to condone it. "If he [Osama bin Laden] is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him," he said in a widely watched 2007 YouTube diatribe. "If he is terrorizing the terrorists, if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist."

Dr. Naik recommends the death penalty for homosexuals and for apostasy from the faith, which he likens to wartime treason. He calls for India to be ruled by the medieval tenets of Shariah law. He supports a ban on the construction of non-Muslim places of worship in Muslim lands and the Taliban's bombing of the Bamiyan Buddhas. He says revealing clothes make Western women "more susceptible to rape." Not surprisingly, Dr. Naik believes that Jews "control America" and are the "strongest in enmity to Muslims."

Of course, every faith has its share of cranks; and, arguably, India has more than its share. But it's impossible to relegate Dr. Naik to Indian Islam's fringe. Earlier this year, the Indian Express listed him as the country's 89th most powerful person, ahead of Nobel Laureate economist Amartya Sen, eminent lawyer and former attorney general Soli Sorabjee, and former Indian Premier League cricket commissioner Lalit Modi. Dr. Naik's satellite TV channel, Peace TV, claims a global viewership of up to 50 million people in 125 countries. On YouTube, a search for Dr. Naik turns up more than 36,000 hits.

Nobody accuses Dr. Naik of direct involvement in terrorism, but those reportedly drawn to his message include Najibullah Zazi, the Afghan-American arrested last year for planning suicide attacks on the New York subway; Rahil Sheikh, accused of involvement in a series of train bombings in Bombay in 2006; and Kafeel Ahmed, the Bangalore man fatally injured in a failed suicide attack on Glasgow airport in 2007.

Nonetheless, when the doctor appears on a mainstream Indian news channel, his interviewers tend to be deferential. Senior journalist and presenter Shekhar Gupta breathlessly introduced his guest last year as a "rock star of televangelism" who teaches "modern Islam" and "his own interpretation of all the faiths around the world." A handful of journalists—among them Praveen Swami of the Hindu, and the grand old man of Indian letters, Khushwant Singh—have questioned Dr. Naik's views, but most take his carefully crafted image of moderation at face value.

At first glance, it's easy to understand why. Unlike the foaming mullah of caricature, Dr. Naik eschews traditional clothing for a suit and tie. His background as a doctor and his often gentle demeanor set him apart, as does his preaching in English. Unlike traditional clerics, Dr. Naik quotes freely from non-Muslim scripture, including the Bible and the Vedas. (You have to pay attention to realize that invariably this is either to disparage other faiths, or to interpret them in line with his version of Islam.) The depth of Dr. Naik's learning is easily apparent.

But this doesn't fully explain Dr. Naik's escape from criticism. It helps that Indians appear to have trouble distinguishing between free speech and hate speech. In a Western democracy, demanding the murder of homosexuals and the second-class treatment of non-Muslims would likely attract public censure or a law suit. In India, it goes unchallenged as long as it has a religious imprimatur. However, create a book or a painting that ruffles religious sentiment, as the writer Taslima Nasreen and the painter M. F. Husain both discovered, and either the government or a mob of pious vigilantes will strive to muzzle you.

In general, India accords extra deference to allegedly holy men of all stripes unlike, say, France, which strives to keep religion out of the public square. Taxpayers subsidize the Haj pilgrimage for pious Muslims and a similar, albeit much less expensive, journey for Hindus to a sacred lake in Tibet. This reflexive deference effectively grants the likes of Dr. Naik—along with all manner of Hindu and Christian charlatans—protection against the kind of robust scrutiny he would face in most other democracies.

Finally, unlike Hindu bigots, such as the World Hindu Council's Praveen Togadia, whose fiercest critics tend to be fellow Hindus, radical Muslims go largely unchallenged. The vast majority of Indian Muslims remain moderate, but their leaders are often fundamentalists and the community has done a poor job of policing its own ranks. Moreover, most of India's purportedly secular intelligentsia remains loath to criticize Islam, even in its most radical form, lest this be interpreted as sympathy for Hindu nationalism.

Unless this changes, unless Indians find the ability to criticize a radical Islamic preacher such as Dr. Naik as robustly as they would his Hindu equivalent, the idea of Indian secularism will remain deeply flawed.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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^^ as long as a certain family is the central party with the confused enthnicity people as leaders and the rest of the ruling party are just their sycophants, secularism will never happen.
India needs another 100 yr to reach the secularism of America or UK or Germany. Even now , after 9/11 America is fairly secular in religious matters.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tannistha

^^ as long as a certain family is the central party with the confused enthnicity people as leaders and the rest of the ruling party are just their sycophants, secularism will never happen.

India needs another 100 yr to reach the secularism of America or UK or Germany. Even now , after 9/11 America is fairly secular in religious matters.


I am afraid its hardly about the ruling party or their ethnicity. The problem is much deep rooted. The problem is that an average Indian mind is extremely immature and unsophisticated. Indians are averse to critical thinking and love to have simplistic answers to most complicated questions. An average educated Indian firmly believes that :

1. All religions are same and carry the same message of love and peace.
2. Few misguided folks misuse/misinterpret the peaceful message and commit acts of terror.
3. Hence we must respect all religions at all cost and never offend anyone's religious sentiments.

These apparently noble thoughts have helped create a superficial model of 'Unity in diversity' that Indians are so proud of, however as one takes a closer look one realizes how these unscholarly assumptions have proven detrimental for Indian Democracy. Be it Government or Judiciary or even the free media, everyone has reached the consensus that religion must be exempted from all sort of scrutiny and criticism. Anyone who criticizes religion or prophets must be arrogant, ignorant or, under the employ of some enemy country, trying to spread communal disharmony. The idea that religious terrorism is a direct manifestation of institutionalized religion and not its aberration is simply unacceptable to the Indian mind. We are so obsessed with not hurting anyone's sentiment that we provide highest protection precisely to those who are working round the clock to destroy democracy and harass and censure those who actually understand and respect the ideas of democracy, freedom and human rights. We have enough place for the Deobandi Imams who issue a fatwa and threaten riots at every drop of hat but we don't have a place for Salman Rushdie. We have given unrestrained freedom to charlatans like Zakir Naik but we cant allow Taslima Nasrin to reside freely in a city of her choice. We have allowed the crooks and criminals of Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal and RSS to scot free but we couldn't afford to give the great painter MF Hussain a proper resting place in his native land. And all this despite boasting ourselves as world's largest constitutional democracy.

Indians believe you can't be secular unless you respect (and pander) every religion. While religious tolerance is definitely a part of most secular societies (barring the communist countries), but Secularism itself doesn't mean unconditional tolerance of religions. In fact the concept of Secularism evolved as a rational movement in defiance and opposition to dogmatism and critical of the Church. I am a secularist but I definitely see no reason to think that all religions are same or that they all teach the same thing. Even if I assume that all religions speak of peace, each of them interpret it differently. For some peace means coexistence despite difference in opinion and faith, for others peace can come only when everyone submits to a particular deity, subscribes to a particular dogma and accepts a certain set of doctrines - and those who don't, are supposedly under the influence of an evil deity called Satan and are bound for hell. Some religions are flexible and inclusive while others are authoritarian and exclusive. Some are purely spiritual while others want to have their say in every matter including society, politics and law. Some are content in being devotional cults while others, that believe the Creator of the Universe takes an active interest in women's clothing or personal dietary habits, impose a rigid and monolithic culture upon the entire society. Only a simpleton can claim that all religions are same.

No country in this world has suffered at the hands of religious extremism the way India has and unless there is a radical change in this typical Indian mindset we will continue to do so irrespective of which government is in power. Secularism and Intellectual Freedom are the only weapons that stand a chance against faith inspired radicalism.

Edited by Rehanism - 13 years ago

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