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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: navyab

Munni...I was writting another post...but will put it on hold for this...

Well Munni...if you remember Hetal talking to Chirag about Koki...the conversation said that Hetal was not happy with Koki even in the past & always spoke about it to her husband...so this says behind her Javedena behavior for the outside world there was another Hetal who was not happy with things but she was somebody who did not work on things which were effecting her...if she was not happy why did she live for 30yrs with Koki...she could over a period of time expressed her displeasure & she being a motabhabhi she could have guided koki...if Koki's behaviour was effecting her, she could have stopped responding to Koki & koki would have understood & changed...but she was not courageous enough to do that as her own husband or baa had not supported her then...but then she was someone who was happy as things were getting done in the house...but today with someone else fueling her already existing thoughts...she thinks she was always right on what she thought about Kokilla from the beginning & with Rashi also on her side...she thinks she is doing the right think...
Not sure if I articulated well !!!

Well Articulated Navyab...but as I say relationships are a tango it takes two...no one person is absalutely right or absalutely wrong...but then again this relationship lies in the hand of a writer and his/her wrold view hence black and white opinions can occur...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: navyab

Munni...I was writting another post...but will put it on hold for this...

Well Munni...if you remember Hetal talking to Chirag about Koki...the conversation said that Hetal was not happy with Koki even in the past & always spoke about it to her husband...so this says behind her Javedena behavior for the outside world there was another Hetal who was not happy with things but she was somebody who did not work on things which were effecting her...if she was not happy why did she live for 30yrs with Koki...she could over a period of time expressed her displeasure & she being a motabhabhi she could have guided koki...if Koki's behaviour was effecting her, she could have stopped responding to Koki & koki would have understood & changed...but she was not courageous enough to do that as her own husband or baa had not supported her then...but then she was someone who was happy as things were getting done in the house...but today with someone else fueling her already existing thoughts...she thinks she was always right on what she thought about Kokilla from the beginning & with Rashi also on her side...she thinks she is doing the right think...
Not sure if I articulated well !!!


Made perfect sense Navya👍🏼
But then how did she manage the smile everytime she sees others? How can you smile at a person you have so much complaints against? 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: navyab

Munni...I was writting another post...but will put it on hold for this...

Well Munni...if you remember Hetal talking to Chirag about Koki...the conversation said that Hetal was not happy with Koki even in the past & always spoke about it to her husband...so this says behind her Javedena behavior for the outside world there was another Hetal who was not happy with things but she was somebody who did not work on things which were effecting her...if she was not happy why did she live for 30yrs with Koki...she could over a period of time expressed her displeasure & she being a motabhabhi she could have guided koki...if Koki's behaviour was effecting her, she could have stopped responding to Koki & koki would have understood & changed...but she was not courageous enough to do that as her own husband or baa had not supported her then...but then she was someone who was happy as things were getting done in the house...but today with someone else fueling her already existing thoughts...she thinks she was always right on what she thought about Kokilla from the beginning & with Rashi also on her side...she thinks she is doing the right think...
Not sure if I articulated well !!!


navya, u articulated it pretty well... what u said in a para... i wrote in a single word as hidden insecurities - @bold in my post😆 - that includes the hidden hetal in her😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1


Made perfect sense Navya👍🏼
But then how did she manage the smile everytime she sees others? How can you smile at a person you have so much complaints against? 😕

Harini...I think she buried it deep in her heart...as she had no one supporting as Baa & her husband thought though Koki was upright she always did things for the family & then remember she did not have children for long...so her hold in the house was not strong...& hence she put her insecurities buried in her heart & just live life...but with Rashi now fueling it ...all of it is coming out now !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: navyab

Harini...I think she buried it deep in her heart...as she had no one supporting as Baa & her husband thought though Koki was upright she always did things for the family & then remember she did not have children for long...so her hold in the house was not strong...& hence she put her insecurities buried in her heart & just live life...but with Rashi now fueling it ...all of it is coming out now !!!

happens when you live in large families and the dynamics are variable and personalities ...all a delicate balance till someone turns the apple cart...all the worms start running out...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: navyab

Harini...I think she buried it deep in her heart...as she had no one supporting as Baa & her husband thought though Koki was upright she always did things for the family & then remember she did not have children for long...so her hold in the house was not strong...& hence she put her insecurities buried in her heart & just live life...but with Rashi now fueling it ...all of it is coming out now !!!


You know navya I never actually thought of it like that! Certainly food for thought. Basically Hetal suppressed all her emotions and now Rashi is making the hidden monster emerge.

Ah well whatever happens it will be good for Hetal too. She will be able to face her inner demons and hopefully emerge a stronger, wiser person.

And this should actually lead to an even stronger bond between Hetal and Koki!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShaunSA

So we have been spewing fire and brimstone at Hetal for believing Rashi's lies. When the real culprit has been sitting right under our noses all this time with not a word said to her.


She was the biggest idiot of all for asking Koki to let Rashi back into MM. I say this is all her fault. If she did not learn about Rashi from spending her entire life with her then we cannot blame bechari Hetal for being taken in after knowing Rashi for just over a year.

I am of course speaking of our beloved Gopiji!

Burn the witch!

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You've said it in this post yourself - Gopi has spent her life with Rashi therefore is conditioned to accept her behaviour as normal. She couldn't perceive her sister as being in the wrong because she's never thought of her as being wrong before. However with the advent of other influences in her life, namely Koki and Ahem she is becoming more attuned to the nuances of other people's behaviour.

Hetal however has grown up without the pervading influence as UrShi and knows what life was like Before Rashi so she should be more aware of her actions precisely because she is not used to them and they are out of the norm.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh, Shaun, Shaun, Shaun (shaking my head). You really do like to play devil's advocate, don't you?

So let me take what Hetal said in yesterday's episode to Kokila - You always say you for justice, but your kathni (talks) and karni (actions) are not the same.
I think Hetal is all kathni and Gopi vau is all karni.

Gopi saw how upset her devar ji and how repentant her Rashi bhen was. Gopi is the peace maker and true nurturer who always makes sacrifices for family unity. Since she is all good, she sees good in others. Growing up with Rashi behn, she always looked up to her and since her marriage, Rashi acted that even the kalakaris she did were for Gopi's benefit. Even though Gopi in her subconscious mind knew of Rashi's nature, she was into forgiving her and moving forward. She is not all talk, she got Rashi behn back in the house. Now, Jigar could have opposed that; he could have made his bhabhi understand, but he didn't. Gopi should not be blamed for Rashi's entrance. I think sooner or later Rashi would have been back some how. May be the elders in the house would have decided to forgive her and bring her back once the things cooled down. Gopi just speeded up the process because she is all karni.

Here's bechari Hetal. She is just kathni, who just talks the talk, but when it comes to walking, she just plops down. She called Gopi her daughter. Rashi or no Rashi, is this how she should be behaving with Gopi? She has known both Rashi and Gopi since the beginning. Has Gopi ever given Hetal a reason to believe that she is irresponsible and careless? Hetal herself has taken Gopi's side and praised her in the past. Was all that her kathni? What was the justice in what Hetal did yesterday by blaming Gopi? OK, she wants to side with her Rashi vahu, she could have said "jave dena" as always. Why blame Gopi?

As far as Hetal's relationship with Kokila is concerned, I agree with other posters that she just acted like a peaceful lake all these years, but she was hiding a lot of storms underneath. She said things on the surface, but she hid her real thoughts in her mind and never had the courage to spit it all out and become a karni like Gopi. Rashi is just a catalyst to bring it all out. If it wasn't Rashi, something else may have triggered Hetal to bring it all out in open. If Gopi hadn't brought Rashi back, Kurmila wouldn't have given up on getting Rashi back into the MM. I wouldn't have put it past Kurshi to play the kalakaris even from RPN that are currently being played inside the MM. Hetal was going to be influenced one way or the other. Gopi is not at fault at all here.

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