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Posted: 13 years ago
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First of all, Thanks for not agreeing to my thread..I like arguing. So here it is. 😆

SNS glorifies Criminal Acts. Key word being "glorifies". Definition- Gives high praise to. Now back to the response, How many of Urshi kalakaries have actually worked? And I don't mean that they caused some chaos in Modis but later, everything was back to normal..I mean a long-term effect from their kalakaries.. Most of their immature acts do not cause severe damage. Does that mean the show is portraying its okay to perform evil acts? No ! It is not and I am not saying it is either. Just because the show contains evil acts, it does not mean it glorifies or promotes them. Every show has some kind of teaching for the audience at the end and this one will to. Considering the show has yet not ended, you cannot judge it by saying it promotes those acts. We do not know yet if good or evil has won until the end of this show. Also, we must ask ourselves, did Urshi actually gain anything from their kalakaries? Have they ever been truly happy with the outcomes of their schemes? No, they have not and will never be as long as their hearts are evil.

Let's talk about the good now. SNS uses Gopi as the good in the show. As we saw (or will be seeing) from today's episode, Gopi has been hurt yet again. The evil bhaang kalakari affected Gohem's relationship to some extent and evil won this one. Or did it? Do they not say that the good path is always the hardest to take? We already know Gopi has suffered pain and agony all because of Urshi but it does not mean evil won. Gopi's sufferings will seem like a very little price to pay for great happiness, which she would get if Ahem truly shows her his love. So all these kalakaris that Urshi have tried will seem useless compared to what she will receive after she overcomes the struggles that come her way to achieve that happiness she desires. We must think about the long-term effects of dramas and not just individual episodes because they only have part of the story. Just as you don't look at only a few years of life where you might have gone through the worst hardships. Look past all that and try to look at the show compiled together once it finishes. Then we shall discuss what it promotes and glorifies. 😊
Edited by GohamHungry - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: GohamHungry

First of all, Thanks for not agreeing to my thread..I like arguing. So here it is. 😆

SNS glorifies Criminal Acts. Key word being "glorifies". Definition- Gives high praise to. How many of Urshi kalakaries have actually worked? And I don't mean that they caused some chaos in Modis but later, everything was back to normal..I mean a long-term effect from their kalakaries.. Most of their immature acts do not cause severe damage. Does that mean the show is portraying its okay to perform evil acts? No ! It is not and I am not saying it is either. Just because the show contains evil acts, it does not mean it glorifies or promotes them. Every show has some kind of teaching for the audience at the end and this one will to. Considering the show has yet not ended, you cannot judge it by saying it promotes those acts. We do not know yet if good or evil has won until the end of this show. Also, we must ask ourselves, did Urshi actually gain anything from their kalakaries? Have they ever been truly happy with the outcomes of their schemes? No, they have not and will never be as long as their hearts are evil.

Let's talk about the good now. SNS uses Gopi as the good in the show. As we saw (or will be seeing) from today's episode, Gopi has been hurt yet again. The evil bhaang kalakari affected Gohem's relationship to some extent and evil won this one. Or did it? Do they not say that the good path is always the hardest to take? We already know Gopi has suffered pain and agony all because of Urshi but it does not mean evil won. Gopi's sufferings will seem like a very little price to pay for great happiness, which she would get if Ahem truly shows her his love. So all these kalakaris that Urshi have tried will seem useless compared to what she will receive after she overcomes the struggles that come her way to achieve that happiness she desires. We must think about the long-term effects of dramas and not just individual episodes because they only have part of the story. Just as you don't look at only a few years of life where you might have gone through the worst hardships. Look past all that and try to look at the show complied together once it finishes. Then we shall discuss what it promotes and glorifies. 😊


Thanks for that definition of 'Glorifying'

If you want a few 'kalakari's' that have had a long term effect here are some that come immediately to mind.

1. Sonal was ousted from the marriage scene and Rashi takes her place at the MM bahu, gets to be Jigar's wife, is secure and comfortable. While Jigar who was truly fond of Sonal is left with a greedy, evil and power hunger monster.

2. Kinjal was manipulated into marrying Dhaval so that Urmila gets a bahu from a rich family. Kinjal is left to live a life beneath her usual social standing and tolerate a man she cannot bear. All the circumstances that lead to this marriage were manipulated by Urmila and Rashi.

Take these two points alone and you will realize that things did not go back to normal. And these kalakari's did work and are working until now.

As for Gopi's so called happiness being a result of Urmila and Rashi's kalakari's that is kind of ironic, as they were the ones who lead to her misery in the first place. They have no role in Gopi's current state of affairs, as she had once told Rashi, she left her fate to destiny and time.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: yessehm


Thanks for that definition of 'Glorifying'

If you want a few 'kalakari's' that have had a long term effect here are some that come immediately to mind.

1. Sonal was ousted from the marriage scene and Rashi takes her place at the MM bahu, gets to be Jigar's wife, is secure and comfortable. While Jigar who was truly fond of Sonal is left with a greedy, evil and power hunger monster.

2. Kinjal was manipulated into marrying Dhaval so that Urmila gets a bahu from a rich family. Kinjal is left to live a life beneath her usual social standing and tolerate a man she cannot bear. All the circumstances that lead to this marriage were manipulated by Urmila and Rashi.

Take these two points alone and you will realize that things did not go back to normal. And these kalakari's did work and are working until now.

As for Gopi's so called happiness being a result of Urmila and Rashi's kalakari's that is kind of ironic, as they were the ones who lead to her misery in the first place. They have no role in Gopi's current state of affairs, as she had once told Rashi, she left her fate to destiny and time.


1. You said it right..He was truly fond of her..which does not necessarily mean he loved her. It seems very obvious right now that he loves Rashi. So yes, the greedy monster gave him a lot of pain when he found out that she broke his and Sonal's wedding on purpose. However, is he not happy right now? The merciful (no, brainless 🤢) lad forgave her and has accepted her as his wife again. It did not leave lasting impression on their relation, in fact, it caused Jigar to find true love. So the scheme had a positive effect. On the other hand, with the monster living in the same house as Gopi, it has caused her life to be miserable. It has started making a split in Hetal and Koki's relationship also. We still do not know if things will go back to normal.

2. I actually loved that kalakari.😆 Kinjal is evil herself so evil vs. evil means evil will win either way. She put the Modis to shame by having a boyfriend and then lying about getting pregnant. Is it not the best thing for her to get married to Dhawal ? Umang played a dirty trick on her and for caring for him more than her family, she is paying back now. Wouldn't that be promoting to respect your family and not do wrongful acts that would put them in shame? Their kalakari will lead for her to find love by smaller things in life and learn to live in the worst conditions. Hopefully, it will also bring her close to Dhawal and show her a happy marriage. In this case, things won't need to go back to normal.

I'm not saying they will be the ones to give her happiness. Her happiness will be the result of her own actions. (Like if she decides to leave Modis, which would make her independent and help her find peace in life without evil schemes..Or it can lie in small things that she does to impress Ahem and make him love her. )
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: malinn

Sorry for saying this...But this has to be one of the most hackneyed responses I have yet come across...

NOTHING...and I repeat NOTHING in the world can justify wrong acts where the intention was also wrong...
Agreed that this is a story...Ficition...Serial...TRP's...etc...
What is wrong is and will be wrong... There is nothing to be learnt from broken relationships...the crack and bitterness always remain...
There was a movie sansar...it had one of the most beautiful and sensible endings... once the family split...it remained split...they got together for festivals and weekends...but they never got back again...
We can't say that since this show is giving us "LESS EVIL"...it is a good show and we can learn from it...
These shows are simply entertainment... there is no knowledge to be given or taken...



Well said, thanks for the support to my original post. You are one of the few who think like me.

EVIL is EVIL and cannot be justified or excused in any way. Thanks again for that
Edited by yessehm - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have to agree with you, but only part way.

SNS shows crimila acts. It shows a mother-daughter so twisted, they can go to any lengths for money/power/revenge/saving their own butts

Some of the things I have seen on this show are just pure crimnal acts, and the ones you mentioned are not even the half of it.
UrShi have almost managed to kill Hetal/Gopi in the mandir fire
They have almost managed to kill Koki with the cooker kaand
They are the sole reason that Ahem absolutely hates Gopi and by Ahem's hands, Gopi has faced physical, verbal, and mental abuse, many times over. They created almost every situation where Ahem misunderstood Gopi (except for the necklace and rakhee jewellery bits done by Kinjal)
They tried to get Gopi arrested with the kangan kaand
They scared Gopi mindless in the bhoot track
They blackmailed Kinjal during her pregnancy track
They tried their hardest to always make Gopi look bad by messing up her work behind her back countless times


But I wouldn't say it glorifies it.

They counteract these awful crimes with Gopi's goodness. They just need to show concequences for the crimes. The list keeps growing and all that seems to have been done is that Raashi was kicked out for about a week or so.
And that was when just 1 kalakaari was revealed.

Can you imagine their reaction when all of the above are revealed?

Gopi needs retribution and UrShi need to face the concequences of their actions

Yuks
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: queenyuks

I have to agree with you, but only part way.

SNS shows crimila acts. It shows a mother-daughter so twisted, they can go to any lengths for money/power/revenge/saving their own butts

Some of the things I have seen on this show are just pure crimnal acts, and the ones you mentioned are not even the half of it.
UrShi have almost managed to kill Hetal/Gopi in the mandir fire
They have almost managed to kill Koki with the cooker kaand
They are the sole reason that Ahem absolutely hates Gopi and by Ahem's hands, Gopi has faced physical, verbal, and mental abuse, many times over. They created almost every situation where Ahem misunderstood Gopi (except for the necklace and rakhee jewellery bits done by Kinjal)
They tried to get Gopi arrested with the kangan kaand
They scared Gopi mindless in the bhoot track
They blackmailed Kinjal during her pregnancy track
They tried their hardest to always make Gopi look bad by messing up her work behind her back countless times


But I wouldn't say it glorifies it.

They counteract these awful crimes with Gopi's goodness. They just need to show concequences for the crimes. The list keeps growing and all that seems to have been done is that Raashi was kicked out for about a week or so.
And that was when just 1 kalakaari was revealed.

Can you imagine their reaction when all of the above are revealed?

Gopi needs retribution and UrShi need to face the concequences of their actions

Yuks


Good list of 'kalakari's' with so many of them downright criminal and dangerous.

There should be a warning at the bottom of the screen warning the viewers 'NOT TO TRY THESE AT HOME'
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Depends what you want to see. Instead of negative points I would like to take positives from gopi's character, believe in god, keep the family together, try to make others happy, respect your elders and many more. Why should I even look at negative points?

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