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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jiya25

sorry chika, but stongly disagree with the underlined part. If you re-read your post carefully, you will find that it is all ABOUT koki. She has always put herself first. She did not allow ahem to have a proper childhood so that he can be a working machine to make HER proud. She did not consider her own son's happiness and desire when choosing his wife because she wanted a girl that suited HER. she didnot think about weather ahem and gopi would be happy with each other as long as they both behaved according to HER. She never thought of herself or ahem as part of the family. She decides for everyone else, but when someone tells her what to do, she goes in her angry mode...why? She is mad at gohem because they are not behaving according to HER, but has she stopped to wonder for a second, 'is my ahem a bit happier, calmer and nicer person these days? what is bringing this change? is this change good for my son?' NO...its all about HER DESIRES, HER WISHES, HER DREAMS.
I have a lovely mother-in-law, and the best thing about her is that she cares about both me and my husband and wants us both to be happy, even if it means that we live life differently than her thoguhts. she encourages me to be a better person but what makes her the best MIL is that she always tells my husband that I am their responsibility and that she promised my parents that their daughter would always be loved in her house. so she tells my husband to always put me first. That to me is a good MIL because she wants her CHILDREN to be happy, not HERSELF.
Parents who want their children to fulfill the dreams that they themselves couldn't, at the cost of the childrens' happiness are essentilly being selfish and unfair to their kids. No matter how much they try and convince themselves that what they are doing is for the kids.

Jiya.. Totally agree that parents should not try to live through their children.
But see that is the first thing they will want when they have their dreams shattered. It is human nature. Somebody like Hetal would never do that.. But Kokila has come up fighting against adversities. She lost her dreams in her marriage. She wants the best for her son. She wants him to excel and succeed in life unlike her.
Although not correct, I will not say she was selfish either. She has done all this based on her dreams. Ahem being where he is today is good for him. He has become successful and has gained respect. Something his father lacked.
Koki just did not want her son to undergo the same pain she underwent. Her intentions are good. She does want Ahem to be happy but she misunderstands his happiness equating herself to him. She sees herself in him. If we think it is selfish , then yes. A mother will always be selfish in wanting the best for their children. If being strict is what it takes, they will do it too..
But it is also woman like her who learn quicker than the rest. The minute Koki finds that she is hurting Ahem, she will repent. She will let him live his life. She has just not realized that yet.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

A wonderful post Chika and you have piled Koki's defence very nicely..😃

I am always for Koki... I do not think she is wrong and her anger is definitely understandable. She is just really disappointed and frustrated right now with Ahem but we know that she will understand once she calms down. She is a really good mother and she will be going forward.*Fingers crossed*..
We have accepted that Ahem shows his love via anger. Koki is Ahem's mom.. She does the same. She gets more angry at the person who she loves the most. That is why Gopi and then Ahem become her targets for the smallest mistake..
So even after today, I will still recommend that Koki be looked at in that aspect than for the words she spews.. She is after all the savior of Gopi and the main cause of GoHem..😃


i agree with u nice point of view mainly bold words but she shld understand gohem mainly gopi she follow her maaji blindly in all works.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: navithareddy


i agree with u nice point of view mainly bold words but she shld understand gohem mainly gopi she follow her maaji blindly in all works.


Thank you.. I consider @Bold her main flaw. She wants Gopi to blindly follow her and she does in everything except when it comes to Rashi and that is where Koki needs to sit her down and explain to that child calmly... Unless Koki talked to Gopi like Ahem does when she is confused, she will never get her to listen to her about Rashi which seems to the cause of trouble even now..(indirectly of course)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i have a questions. lets put aside the point of 'MOM' for a second. Gopi has had a much much worse life so far. As least koki had a mother, a full set of parents, gopi didn't. Koki's mother might have been stricter with her, but at least she didn't torture like mami and rashi. Koki might not have had a high earning husband, but at least she had a loving husband. She had a loving jethani and a very lovely MIL. Gopi has a husband who slapped her, verbally abused her and hated her.
So we all agree that gopi had it tougher. Now would we justify gopi if she constantly compared herself with Raji, tried to dominate everyone and absolutely run every aspect of her kid's life? Gopi is still a loving positive human being, whose love is not dependent of other's obedience. so perhaps that makes gopi a much stronger person with a much bigger heart than koki can ever have. Koki's love is conditional on obedience. Conditional love is never true and not everlasting. How can a mother whose love is conditional be justified then?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: maddy311

This was a lovely post chika. Beautifully written👍🏼


Thank you Maddy!😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jiya25

i have a questions. lets put aside the point of 'MOM' for a second. Gopi has had a much much worse life so far. As least koki had a mother, a full set of parents, gopi didn't. Koki's mother might have been stricter with her, but at least she didn't torture like mami and rashi. Koki might not have had a high earning husband, but at least she had a loving husband. She had a loving jethani and a very lovely MIL. Gopi has a husband who slapped her, verbally abused her and hated her.

So we all agree that gopi had it tougher. Now would we justify gopi if she constantly compared herself with Raji, tried to dominate everyone and absolutely run every aspect of her kid's life? Gopi is still a loving positive human being, whose love is not dependent of other's obedience. so perhaps that makes gopi a much stronger person with a much bigger heart than koki can ever have. Koki's love is conditional on obedience. Conditional love is never true and not everlasting. How can a mother whose love is conditional be justified then?


But we are talking about two different people Jiya.. Both have different ways to react to things. One takes abuse without doing anything about it. Koki took her difficulty (I would never say abuse) in and came back the way she did..
It is just like you and me having 2 different views of the same scenario.
Moreover Kokila is proud and Gopi isn't. One major difference that can change the way you look at things a lot..
@Bold - This would have been the ideal scenario for Gopi. But for Koki and her pride it would have been the biggest blow. She would have felt that people were pitying her and her state and that has added to bitterness.

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