Is Hetal praising or Taunting Punjabi's Note#5 - Page 4

And this depiction of punjabis and gujratis is being watched intently by most south asians inside and outside India! Zee Tv is perhaps the most watched south asian channel in the world!

Originally posted by: April2007

The writers are abusing Punjabis a minority and whole hindi speaking India is watching..we are only concerned about Hetal and totally nitpicking about what I write..

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Originally posted by: cairene

I don't really care if someone is fat or not. The juxtaposition of the two south asian communities is portraying both communities in a very bad light. It's not a matter of food or anything. South Asian food in general is unhealthy regardless of whether it's punjabi or whatever.

I need to clarify something. I was born into a Sikh household and i've mentioned, i'm not indian. I never heard of Sikhs participating in the Karva Chauth festival since it is a hindu ritual. Is it common for Sikhs in India to partake in Hindu rituals or is this something inaccurate? I was actually quite shocked to have seen this on the show.

I am disturbed by this show primarily cos most of my non-punjabi friends think punjabis are like the bedis or any stereotypical depiction of punjabs in BW, which is far from the truth. Like we are lassi guzzling baboons with no manners whatsoever.

Originally posted by: Luv4games

i totally agree with you that writers are insulting both punjabis and gujaratis but that is not meher's fault...i mean she is just playing the character she didnt write the script or her dialogues...i am not concerned about hetal at all but Meher...insulting an actor on their physical appearance just because they play a negative character is not fair...but i do understand ur point that cvs have totally crossed the line and not realizing their mistake...

Originally posted by: April2007

In answer to your questions...yes some Sikh do participate in hindu rituals..all Sikhs have hindu origin and Sikh Gurus have not at any time said anything against Hinduism or against any religion. Sikhs are part and parcel of India and they do celebrate all Indian festivals such as Dewali, Holi, Rakhi etc. Sikhism is very fluid, it is not rigid..I think you are not Indian as you have mentioned in your post and have not lived in India that is the reason you think Sikhs are very different, that is not the case, in punjab hindu and sikh familes are combined. Sikh Guru were married around the fire by hindu tradions, this Sikh marriage tradition is very recent and started in 20th century before that Sikhs were married by a brahmin around a vedi.

I find Bedi's pretty good family, they are open minded, fun loving, reasonably modern, they are not westernized as far as lassi goes, dairy products, lassi, yogurt, butter, milk are very important part of punjabi diet, Punjabi's have been raising dairy animals for at least 4000 years and eating dairy product. North Indians have the enzymes to digest milk and its products unlike many other races, do you know that only Caucasian adults can digest milk products..personally I love lassi, even west is warming up..yoplait, even smoothies are just variation of mango milk shake punjabi's have been enjoying. I don't find Bedi's embarrassing actually I love the way the Sweety dresses up, Vimmi used to dress up well but now her style has gone down the drain.

Originally posted by: cairene

I'm Punjabi and i hate lassi. Who cares about Bedis love for dairy products, not me. And personally, i don't think ur a sikh.

I've got nothing against Hinduism but what u've said...The gurus said nothing against practising Hindu rituals, please read the SGGS. When i asked my mum whether sikhs practise Karva Chauth after watching the episode, she said most probably they are Hindu punjabis, not Sikhs.

Hello, Sikhs do not go around the fire. They go around the SGGS. It's called the anand ka raj. As for Diwali, the significance is different. It's called the Ban Chor Divas, which celebrates the return of one of the Gurus from imprisonment. It's got nothing to do with the Hindu festival. We do not celebrate Holi, nor do we celebrate any other Hindu festival.

Originally posted by: April2007

I am Sikh, I have no reason for me to fake it. rest assured .no hindu will call themselves a Sikh. I am not Jat Sikh maybe that is why you think I am not a Sikh. I come from an urban professional background

Getting back to your question about dairy product ..Dairy products are part and parcel of staple Punjabi diet. Punjabis have been consuming dairy products since 5000 years...I don't want to discuss your personal likes and dislikes..there are millions of Punjabis who love dairy products..

SGGS is a spiritual book it doesn't tell followers what to eat or or how to live their day to day life..it tells the difference between right and wrong, importance of good values like sharing with unfortunate and community serve.

I can attest to the fact that some urban Sikhs observe Karva Choth..(mind you I didn't say all of them do) my family doesn't but some do. While rural (Jat Sikhs) don't observe Karva choth. Urban Sikhs have mixed families, Hindu and Sikhs. Jat Sikhs (punjabi speaking) are either Sikhs or muslims.

Read some good historical books regarding Sikh history and history of Gurus life their marriages and how they lived their life a very good thesis to read is 'Construction of Religious Boundaries By Dr Oberoi.

.Marriage by Anand Karaj was only introduced a hundred years ago by Tut Khalsa, before this under Sanatam Khalsa all Sikhs were married by Vedi. To prove my point alll Sikh Gurus without exception were married by Vedi. If Anand Karaj is Sikh way then why Sikh Gurus were married by Vedi.

Dewali is an Indian festival, it has been celebrated in India from thousands of years..Sikhism is a very new religion by superimposing something regarding Gurus, you cannot change thousands year old festival and call it a sikh festival. All the Sikhs in Delhi celebrate Dewali and their families have been celebrating it from thousands of years, even before Sikhism or Sikh Gurus came in the picture.

Religion is only one aspect of my life, it is not end in all, Indian traditions and deep roots that connects me to the thousands of years old Indian past is also part and parcel of who I am.. Dewali and other Indian traditions are part of and parcel of all Indians of the subcontinent. Sikhs are Indians.