BO/Quality - What does an Average Cinegoer want ? - Page 3

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Posted: 14 years ago
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this is just my view...! 😛
i think people in general have a very individualized definition of 'quality cinema'... what one considers quality cinema might very well be an insult to the other person's sensibility...!
personally, movies like dev d or delhi belly are below mediocre, according to my standards, but apparently the pseudo intellectuals think that it is something extraordinary, which in my opinion, is ridiculous... by that same token, someone else may think what i like is ridiculous... so really, it's all perceptions, isn't it...
and personally, i really do not get the idea of 'rickshaw driver' or some 'college graduate' having different standards... considering the movies in question did extremely well not only in single screen cinemas, but also multiplexes... 😛
to answer the question, i think the average viewer just wants entertainment... there is a reason why these masala movies are huge hits... there are obviously people watching those movies... and i highly doubt it's only because of the repeat views... in general, people look for movies that will take their life from the mundanes of normal everyday life... there is a reason why the movies claiming to be pseudo intellectual do not work as well at the box office...
every movie has it's audience, in my view...!
p.s. i don't think what people on IF think is the general view... it comes as a little surprise then that the verdict on IF rarely matches that of the general consensus or at the box office...! 😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: a little faith

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I like your point about BO films being the bread and butter of many a person. However within the realm of art, meaningful or usual movies force growth in the industry. Otherwise Indian cinema would become stagnant and by definition anything that doesn't grow is dead. For me current state of films, not just in Bollywood but Hollywood too, isn't just about money but laziness too, that 'if it looks good THEN it is good enough' maxim that plagues the whole of society. Where are the people who break the mould, think outside the box instead of just making themselves comfortable in cramped conditions? Case and point is the item number which hasn't significantly changed in 4 decades.

I agree with you about definitions. Honour is where you place it. If your definition of success means money, then by those standards most modern Bollywood movies and actors are successful. However if your definition of success entails something more substantial, affecting the way audiences and peers alike view the medium of film then there are few and far between.

Even more rare are those that do both. In my opinion I can really only think of one modern Bollywood actor and whose films belong to that last category.

With love, Sabah

what may be substantial to one may well be completely off the mark, according to others... when you kind of step away from it and think about it, it really is funny actually... when a movie does exceptionally well and seems to be liked by the audience in general, it is quite interesting to come and read the comments on the review threads... 😆😆
at the end, it all boils down to one's own perspective, doesn't it... and as you said earlier, the notion of to each their own is easier said than accomplished (with which, i completely agree)...!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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multiplex audiences...what does that mean...weren't good movies made...before mutiplexes were established. i never said that entertainment doesn't mean quality, quality is abt raising standards and giving it a bigger level which it deserves...if we keep repeating the same value and making money well ofcourse that isn't a problem lolzz...what we are doing for the people...a good example is the recent released dirty picture which gave entertainment factor + good theory but i dont think any more producer would like to follow the path...at the end its not abt entertainment but MONEY...if audiences get entertainment in whatever crap they want...producers make money and there serves the entertainment
Edited by EmmaFrost - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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When I watch a movie I watch it for several reasons:

The stars (this applies to bollywood movies only)
The concept of the movie is intriguing
Critically acclaimed (these movies tend to have new/interesting concepts/execution)
Personal connection to the theme of the movie
Masala movies with interesting concepts (ghajini would be an example, avatar would be an example, love stories 😃)
My family wants to see it so I see it too and sometimes end up liking those movies which I wouldn't watch on my own.

So IMO all kinds of movies should be made...and valued for what they are worth. Money should not be the only yardstick of success.
Edited by LifeOLicious - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good topic, Emma Frost 👍🏼 and some interesting responses.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nuktaacheen

what may be substantial to one may well be completely off the mark, according to others... when you kind of step away from it and think about it, it really is funny actually... when a movie does exceptionally well and seems to be liked by the audience in general, it is quite interesting to come and read the comments on the review threads... 😆😆
at the end, it all boils down to one's own perspective, doesn't it... and as you said earlier, the notion of to each their own is easier said than accomplished (with which, i completely agree)...!



Yeah, I have read those threads too😆 Though I agree that even substance has its own definition according to people, we all know what it actually means. For instance if I said what is nourishing food, people could respond, 'well food is food, and even the processed stuff nourishes upon some emotional comfort level.' However we know what it actually means in general terms, that home cooked meal. So I would proffer that most would know a substantial movie if they saw one, [both meanings intended😆] I am not ignoring the need nor necessity of films that are made purely as entertainment BUT the film industry as a whole cannot remain healthy solely upon that diet. I just feel that we have arrived at a point where the health conscious are trying to survive on crumbs so that as Eddie Murphy once mused 'day old stale crackers' seem relatively appetizing.

Sorry, I think I may have walked off the map. Man alive! This diet is making me go a little 😕 With love, Sabah
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i will have to give to AAMIR KHAN, look at him he never seems pressurized, inspite of all the troubles for being no.1 he never bothers, dats how he could churn out a taare zameen par and dhobhi ghat...and both films did well...atleast he feels a bit responsible to bring new stories...besides of course entertaining people as well
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think being entertaining is just as important as being good in quality. No-one is dying to just watch art films and intellectual cinemas. But i'd like to hope that not everyone wants to watch a constant stream of Ready's & Bodygaurds either.

I think all industries need to have a good mix. I just think our blockbusters these days have been a bit subpar ie. Houseful? Thankyou? Tees Maar Khan?

The Dirty Picture becoming a hit i think is a great sign. Same with Band Baaja Barat from last year. For sure it was an entertainer, but it was also well made, had some fresh acting and an interesting tale to tell. But with that said Creativity doesn't just lie in making films that are super obscure, most of the time it comes from taking the average romantic story and making it sparkle. Or giving a hero or heroine a new edge.

I think we are more split on who we like and dislike as a film industry today more than ever. Even if movies are blockbusters these days, a significant amount of the population dislikes them. I think that says we have tons of room for growth in constantly trying to make movies better, as well as prove that the audience isn't just sheep and out tastes are diverse.
Edited by masakaliii - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I want entertainment, something that can enthrall/ interest me for 3 hours, I don't care if it's a pseudo-intellectual film or any other type. Having good looking girls in there will help.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ EmmaFrost

Yes I agree Aamir Khan's name is the first that sprung to my mind too, as those actors that manage to make entertaining BO hits which have heart too. I would also add Amitabh Bachchan to that list, although I know it might raise a few eyebrows, but I would still contend that he fits in this category. Also Vidya, though of course her career is still in the earlier part of her career.

With love, Sabah
Edited by a little faith - 14 years ago

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