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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: LOVE_DMG

like your post,Thanks 🤗 but sadly i wish we lived in better world. Aww, we live in a better world sweetheart...why you feel like that ???...the world is what we saw ...my mother always taught me to find happiness in small small things and trust me that's really make the world beautiful . .. as for indira mother, tell u this mother will do anthing for her kids, even die for them, what is leaving husbad that has betrayed her, and marryed anther women not caring about his own kids. it pretty hard to consider that mother would say such thing to her own daughter, that infront of her step mom.Sweetheart...quite obvious it was...as a mother cannot stand anything against her husband...never and indira was questioning his entry in the house...thus he shouted and in between she covered munna stuff too...just because she got a chance to speak atlast but trust me , she never in her wildest dreams thought that indira will take such a step...her asthmatic attack is the proof........

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Posted: 14 years ago
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its not enough to give birth to become a parent. infact loads of people in the world give birth but never become parents.i agree with one line of yours- that indira is what she is for her family. so true- she doesnt know how to laugh-for her family. she has been detached from all the happiness in the world- for her family. she is compelled to be this stone hearted hitler- for her family. the beautiful and taken care of childhood you talk about- indira never had much of it.she is bearing her fathers responsibility from a tender age. coming to responsibility i dont actually understand your outlook. you said, her mother wasnt wrong in saying that it wasnt indiras house then you said indira cant leave the house because its her responsibility!! oh so, she doesnt have a right but has a responsibility towards the house huh?you know what- with no right comes no responsibility. and you asked if my mother will support my father if he did something like that well the answer is no. never. my mother is not some selfish woman who'd forget who left her and her children in misery and who saved them.only a woman with no dignity can do what indiras mom did. yes i agree according to the behavior of this society she is supposed to do that. but following the society doesnt necessarily imply that your actions are right.
you asked a lot of questions. i need to answer them. you asked if we leave home when our parents shout at us. well, we dont. but i dont know if you'd still live with your parents once you are told that the household you are protecting as your own is not yours, that you've got no right. i know i wouldnt.
you said indira behaves badly with them. and still they loves her. you know what saying all these is so easy. try to do for one day what indira did for a long time- try to run a household like hers in twenty thousand rupees. i bet you cant survive one day of indiras life.nobody understands how hard it is to earn unless they do it. and going through the immense mental pressure she goes is just not something you describe in mere words- it something you feel with the cost of your life.
and you said about how kutumb wanted to stop indira- well, you should have seen it was when indira handed her the bills that her facial expression turned from hatred to fear. she didnt have the attack because she loved indira so much and couldnt take her leaving the house- she had the attack because now she had tons of bills and expenditures and no one to take care of them.
a few words of yours are partially truth-but only in a handful of families. where a daughter is unconditionally loved. but you cant generalize it living in a country where an unborn child is killed for being a girl.mother loving her daughter and the daughter being the most precious possession of the mother is actually part of the fairytale books. and living in the real world and believing in fairytale doesnt help.
so all in all i dont agree with almost everything you said. not in indiras case, not in anybody's case.
Edited by -roshnee- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiya229

i think you are right under normal circumstances, but indira's life struggles arent what anyone calls normal.Sweetheart , trust me this is what mostly all the middle class family girls suffer from...leave that ...they suffer from worse...not just brother even the father sits at home and trust me i have watched a girl asking her mom to throw her father out as he can't fulfill the responsibilities...she was fed with him and she wasn't scolded...she got a tight slap from her mom, a very tight one . An that was right . At least my mom always says a parent if says that my children don't do anything in their childhood and i have to spend money on them...i should through them...what then ??? Parents always have a big heart but children , when the duty comes to them...they rebel on such things , but even that's not wrong from their point of view . firstly, it is never shown that Kutumb worked/ struggled. So what...do u want to say indira was born as a big girl only...😆...ofcourse it wasn't shown but that had to be there na....plus, if the mother can understand broken words, why doesnt she understand how PAINFUL it is for indira to see her father. She understands that well , remember this is the first time she has stopped her , shouted on her about the father thing . Indira keeps on saying about him .She cries , sometimes in heart and sometimes in front of her but never shouts . Insulting your father hits the weakest nerve of your mother , and every child in the world need to understand that . it is shown that indira and her father shared a close relation- so where is her mother's understanding of indira's pain...Indira has made herself stone hearten but that doesn't mean even kutumb heart is of stone . She still loves her husband . And always the love for her children dominates but yesterday when according to her , her husband did no wrong and thus the support was transferred to him .


i think crux of the problem is that despite the fact that indira does EVERYTHING for her family, its her mother who says the house doesnt belong to her. The house does not belong to her was spoken in the context that it will not be indira's choice that who will enter in the house , first her son was out of the house and now she was asking the father to get lost . The reaction was quite natural . But her words were taken in a wrong way by indira but then on the second hand indira was right on her place . Because as a child , she can't understand the pain the mother suffer from when her son is out of house . its the symbolism of that, that matters. i think indira always expected that munna would inherit the house, physically, hence partially her struggle to make sure ISHAAN has good upbringing.
but for her mother to say that "what have you done for this house" " She was angry sweetheart , and in anger such things do happen . She was hurt from many days and she blowed out . you went to work despite ishaan being ill", you dont have any rights to tell me anything.. is unfair and hurtful. The mother wants indira to keep relations above than anything but indira dominates her , never let her speak...isn't that wrong ???Moreover for a house lady , its difficult to understand the duties of office and all . Moreover here the condition is abnormal...the office actually rund because of indira .

it is unfair, as kutumb, sunaina and mandira together couldnt be bothered to find ishaan.. its is on indira' MONEY that the family runs.Sweetheart they never did...they have become dependent on the daughter . I know it's indira's money but the thing which is important is indira works for her family , so the money belongs to them too . Moreover in childhood the money on which indira was fed was also considered her money na ...and at that time , she never used to work .

its hurtful because, its her own MOTHER who says this, against a MAN who LEFT HER. The man is her husband and indira's father . And the two are not divorsed yet , she has full right to save him .
i dont support indira when she bans people from meeting inder. Thanks she cannot dictate terms like that exactly . but for her mother to be blatantly inconseridate of her DAUGHTER (who holds up everyone and is essentially and stereotypically the MAN of the house) is WRONG. She is not inconsiderate , she has allowed her rule in the house . The condition have become this that she is being dominated by her own daughter . She sees her son getting insulted everyday and she has to remain quiet . Indira do things by herself and never take advice or permission .
with regards to inder: she can love him, but there is a flip side of self-respect and consideration for her daughter. she is foolish in her love for inder. No , she is not .

kutumb has spoilt munna she hasn';t ...some are like this and a mother has to accept whatever her child his...she cant throw him out...she is a mother and mandira. munna is a grown man, without a job and steals- nothing to be proud about.So what...what he stealed , his father's money . He is spoiled but that is because the responsibilities never come on his shoulders . Not his mom , but indira spoiled him by working hard day and night . she should instead practice some TOUGH love Sweetheart , indira is already tough and if she too will become tough...the son can go in depression and for her , his life is more important than anything and everything . and help indira in making a better man for ishaan. neutral and equal love isnt the bar for motherhood. the attributes of a son/daughter define motherhood.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I will stop here and will not give more explanations . Because for me the mother is always gonna be right ( mother can never be wrong for me , i just unconditionally love the word mother and can never stand against that because i have the most loving and caring mother of the world . Who understands me in and out . Who get the things done even before i ask from her . So even if a day come ...that my own mother throws me out of the family , i will still owe everything to her . Just to her . For me , i am no individual . Whatever i feel , whatever i speak is given by my mother .) ,.And i know that's right because i saw some hidden tears in my mom's eyes when she was watching the show and she told me , that is somewhat the reason parents dont like girls working . If munna had been working , he would not have been dictating terms like that . Let it be . Its Truth , reality . Girl have to leave and that's what the mom was saying ...she was saying after marriage ...not before ...All in all the anger the pain was speaking . And kutumb loves her daughter is and will always be the truth for me .

And even indira is right ...because a child can never understand what parents go through as they have never experienced it yet in their life .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -roshnee-

its not enough to give birth to become a parent. infact loads of people in the world give birth but never become parents.i agree with one line of yours- that indira is what she is for her family. so true- she doesnt know how to laugh-for her family. she has been detached from all the happiness in the world- for her family. she is compelled to be this stone hearted hitler- for her family. the beautiful and taken care of childhood you talk about- indira never had much of it.she is bearing her fathers responsibility from a tender age. coming to responsibility i dont actually understand your outlook. you said, her mother wasnt wrong in saying that it wasnt indiras house then you said indira cant leave the house because its her responsibility!! oh so, she doesnt have a right but a responsibility towards the house huh?you know what- with no right comes no responsibility. and you asked if my mother will support if my father if he did something like that well the answer is no. never. my mother is not some selfish woman who'd forget who left her and her children in misery and who saved them.only a woman with no dignity can do what indira did. yes i agree according to the behavior of this society she is supposed to do that. but following the society doesnt necessarily imply that your actions are right.
you asked a lot of questions. i need to answer them. you asked if we leave home when our parent shout at them. well, we dont. but i dont know if you'd still live with your parents once you are told that the household you are protecting as your own is not yours, that you've got no right. i know i wouldnt.
you said indira behaves badly with them. and still they loves her. you know what saying all these is so easy. try to do for one day what indira did for a long time- try to run a household like hers in twenty thousand rupees. i bet you cant survive one day of indiras life.nobody understands how hard it is to earn unless they do it. and going through the immense mental pressure she goes is just not something you describe in mere words- it something you feel with the cost of your life.
and you said about how kutumb wanted to stop indira- well, you should have seen it was when indira handed her the bills that her facial expression turned from hatred to fear. she didnt have the attack because she loved indira so much and couldnt take her leaving the house- she had the attack because now she had tons of bills and expenditures and no one to take care of them.
a few words of your are partially truth-but only in a handful of families. where a daughter is unconditionally loved. but you cant generalize it living in a country where a unborn child is killed for being a girl.mother loving her daughter and the daughter being the most precious possession of the mother is actually part of the fairytale books. and living in the real world and believing in fairytale doesnt help.
so all in all i dont agree with almost everything you said. not in indiras case, not in anybody's case.

Atleast in my case ...its right and always be ...May be i was wrong in indira's case as u all are saying .
Edited by Surbhi123 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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actually, before i reply: Let me say, my answers are influenced by what i see as of today, ofcourse my reasoning can change in future as the show proceeds.:)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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totally agree surbhi.. but sadly here indira's mum is blinded to see her daughter's good intentions😔
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think you're analysis is naive and pink clouded. This does not apply to Indira.

Indira should at least for a few months stay away from home so her family can learn a well needed lesson.

It's harsh but not as harsh as Katumbs actions and words. That woman wasn't being a mother, she was busy being a wife of a man who doesn't give two shots about her.

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