Angie's thoughts - September 8, 2011

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Friends, I am writing brief comments today as I think Misti is busy.
It seems that there is some change in the story since yesterday. Not sure where it is going as need to see tomorrow's episode before it would be clear.
The scene continued from yesterday when villagers come just as when Dev is about to close the temple. Radhika smiles with satisfaction while Dev is stunned to see reaction of villagers. They are overjoyed that the future RP is now doing puja in the temple that has been closed for 12 years. Also they told him that they were destitute for 12 years and now good things have started happening ever since the temple was reopened by Dada (Now my question is weren't villagers angry at closing of the temple and how come BB ruled without any problems when she wasn't doing dharamsabhas or had closed the revered temple? They never showed that there was discontent on anybody's part...we used to write about this in the thread...that is the problem with this show...they never close any loopholes).
Anyway, they pay a lot of respects to Dev (touching his feet etc.) with one woman acting as Shabri (tribal low caste woman who had fed Ram fruits after tasting each one herself). Here she feeds Dev by her hands and tells him to do his duty of RP properly. Dev is slowly realizing that people really are looking forward to having a leader and he has to assume that responsibility. Radhika smiles with satisfaction and thanks Kanha that he helped her (so the sankalp was to close the doors and Dev couldn't fulfill the sankalp.) So was the shank dwani related to Radhika's intentions of making sure that Dev takes RP responsibility ? But then Dev never refused the responsibility. Even with Dada, he was saying that he wants to do all his duties - be a good RP and be a husband to Radhika. Then he had prayed yesterday to give him mental strength so that he doesn't do injustice to any.
Will the creatives ever tell what his sankalp was if it was to close the temple doors, why was he able to take it with Kanha's will? There are no conversations between leads today at all. So we don't know.
The next scene is of Radhika giving heavy RPtain clothes to Barkha who has again become dumb because she is not able to understand that Radhika is acting different (discounts it), she herself is wearing simple clothes and giving Barkha the heavy clothes suitable for RPtain. Usually I don't waste ink on Barkha or her mother, but mother seems ambitious. She wants Barkha to be RPtain but is not concerned that this would be an unmarried woman doing something immoral (adharam). So the entire selfish PF and Barkha's mother want her to take away somebody's rights and become RPtain. Barkha is strange that she is sticking around despite knowing that if she is not there, nobody can do anything. Also Barkha's jaap is of Dev doing this or wanting this or that...creatives and their silly games despite falling ratings.
Now there was a scene of Maheswari and Virat that confused me a lot. Maheswari doesn't want RP title to go to Dev even if they don't get it. So she wants to encourage Dev and Radhika's love. This is change in the story. The original will was that the property would go to trust if Dev doesn't become RP. She had reconciled herself to it and all she wanted was property. Now few days back she didn't want Radhika as Dev's wife because she wanted revenge against Radhika. So despite not liking Barkha, she was preferable to Radhika. Then until two days ago, she was talking about Virat becoming RP if Dev accepts Radhika and is rejected as RP. Now she is saying that property would go to trust if that happens...can creatives stick with one story for BB and stay consistent...BB looks for her security...why would she risk losing the cushy life just because she doesn't want Dev to become RP...Virat looks angry.. So BB's character was turned upside down.
There was no role for Rohan today but he was smirking during the ceremony as if he knew that Dev would not declare Radhika as his wife. Anyway, his and BB's goals are again clashing and they should benefit Dev. Misti calls BB Dev's guardian angel and it seems that BB is probably going to be that.
Then it is nighttime with Padma and Dai as usual talking about RP legacy getting destroyed if Dev tells the truth (these two are quite selfish and cannot think beyond their own insecurities and obession about their master-Dada).
But I liked Dev's scene in the nighttime where he is lying outside on a couch thinking about his dilemma. I am liking how they are keeping Dada and chota Dev in the story to show this connection. Dev is remembering asking Dada how to make decision if one is on a crossroad. Dada had told him to close his eyes and think of God because he is the one who can show the right path. This means that Dada in the childhood was telling him to discount society and go with one's value system. Dev closes his eyes. So it seems that Dev is not looking towards the society or family for answers. He is discounting Radhika's words too. He is going deep inside to find that strenght to make the right decision.
Meanwhile Radhika is her room and she is praying that this dark night brings a new morning that would bring happiness to the family and make things right. Her words and prayers are different. She is not asking that Dev accepts Barkha as his wife but do something that is right. So maybe the shank dhwani is for that. Even though she thinks Dev giving her up is the solution, she is asking Kanha to show Dev the right path. But the right path is declaring her as his wife publicly and then fighting the society for her rights. Is this where the story is going?...we will see in next few episodes.
Finally, the RP tilak day arrives with everyone coming in. Some women calls Radhika characterles but it seems that she didn't hear. Nobody says anything to Rohan (the hypocritical society). So why is Radhika considered characterless? What is her status in the society? Now she is openly participating in all ceremonies and is wearing sindoor and mangalsutra. So whose wife does society consider her? Lets see if we get answers tomorrow.
Dev's rajtilak is performed and he is looking grim throughout the ceremony. Radhika involves Barkha in all activities (sharing the wifely duties?). Dev is told by Mahant that he is 8th RP from this family and to maintain the legacy. BB is asking Virat whom Dev would choose. Virat gets irritated with her ( I was too as BB is now acting silly and her actions are not making sense). Anyway, Mahant asks Dev to call his wife so that they can do havan and she can be declared RPtain. Dev looks at Radhika who doesn't move and the episode ends.
I was confused with the episode. It seems to me that the story is moving towards clash between Dev and Radhika. Both are looking for the same goal and that is to maintain the RP legacy. Dev has accepted the responsibility but he wants Radhika by his side. Radhika thinks that she can't be RPtain as society won't accept her. So she is using subterfuge to get Barkha to be RPtain. But Barkha has her free will. Why would she go and sit for RP puja if she doesn't want to do so? Radhika's character is going down because she is endorsing all these adharams in name of Kanha. But if they show a consistent Dev who remains strong. Then it would be good because they can show that he shows Radhika the right path even if he alienates her in the beginning.
I will wait until tomorrow to see which way the story is going as it has changed since yesterday.
Acting wise, it was Avinash for me today. He had no dialogues in the entire episode. But his expressions -stunned realization in the beginning and then slowly acceptance that he has to be RP because people are looking up to him and then his grim expresssions in the end were too good. Ruby was good too as a determined Radhika who wants to make sure that Dev becomes RP and would go to any lengths to ensure it. She was smug and satisfied in the first part, then contrite after she left Barkha's room for doing deception and then she was anxious and then happy when Dev was crowned RP. That was her and Dada's dream and she saw it being fulfilled.
Saying all this , I still feel that the episode was disjointed because the story has gone change once again. Whenever they change the story abruptly, it loses connection with previous tracks. So I feel as if I watching a new show. The whole essence of CB is getting lost for me. Only Avinash and Rubina as Dev and Radhika kept me hooked to the show. Otherwise, there was no connection. Mansa's family came and Mansa prayed to Kanha for Dev to declare Radhika as RPtain and society accepting her. But there was no conversation shown between father and daughter. That doesn't make sense. Wouldn't Mansa try to convince Radhika that she is making a wrong decision? Even if he doesn't, he would still talk to her. There was no connection between characters whatsoever.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think that they are experimenting on the storyline and the characters...everyone is changed but dev,shanti and chand...first fights always 4 the truth and mother-daughter hating radh and looking for groom,smth that they always do!The only thing thats constant in radh is her sttuborness to protect dev!!Even bh was changed,since when she is so dumb in not reconising radh's tricks?! Anyway,the epi was interesting cause of the rajtilak ceremony where dev shinned and the scene with him on that sofa,realy belive that was the moment when he decided what he is going to do!I said before too but realy need to mention again that i love dev's character for his meaningful silence...his misterious ways smtimes...young but wise,determinated ,strong yet sensitive...a gream man indeed... I also feel that all these changes are for a new track thats coming from tomorow,a confrontation between radev and hopefuly between radh and kanha...she realy needs a wake up call from him...Like the tension from today's epi, waiting for tomorow...
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Angie liked your comments .Is she going to be slow poison for him , killing herself slowly and so is Dev , knowing very well she is also the core of his existence ?.Dev is not Rohan , whom you have to show the way , whats wrong or right ...He is the person ,who has his priorities right ...Funny was , why Barkha was there standing with pallu covering her head , where as the ladies of PF family none was ...she is not dumb , then why she has to wear heavy saree and Radhika in light saree...Barkha is not dumb , and why she did not refused when Radhika very sweetly asked her to cover her head , when the ladies of the same family were not had pallu .. Barkha mother was also funny , was asking her daughter , that you may be the rptian ...Her daughter is not married , not once asked , why she was wearing this heavy saree with pallu on head ...
What kind of Dharam Radhika is talking about , she is pushing Dev in to the web of lies ...How he can be a good RP, when the start is from lies ... i was always with Radhika , but after today in temple , when she was watching her plan going her way , i felt bad for Dev ...He never had anybody in his life , you could feel his loneliness ..Agree Radhika is also gong through the same agony , may be more ...What kind of love is this , you are giving pain to that person who is the reason of your existence ...Very well Creatives are going , just should not kill both the main lead character..
Angie when i was reading your comments , then thought why not to post my immediate reaction after watching the show , just wrote that time in this link , ..http://www.facebook.com/groups/CB2AvInathread/....Dev had very thoughtful expressions through out the whole rituals...Dev is not the kind of person who will leave his wife in lurch , that was already cleared when he asked to his grandfather about Radhika,s future ...He is decisive person ,...Lets see how Radhika is going to react as she heard few women talking about her ..
Yes for sometime are not showing Gharwali...promos ...There may be some change , and you never know Radhika to what extent ,she can go for Dev ...Coming episode will put some light which way the track is going ...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Angie liked your thoughts and today the episode left me thinking I was feeling maybe Radhika herself may spook Dev's decision well lets see tomorrow what happens.Liked the way Dev is focused on his decision and following the path of truth and dharma.He is also going through a tough time when he is lonely in his decision of following the right path. He took the right teachings of his DD keeping aside his weakness by remembering his childhood incidents. He is serious and looks like the correct person. He looks more like a RP then a lover and husband who has been asked to take all responsibilities and which he wants to do justice. Dont want to comment about other as the story seems to be changing a bit . Today like you I liked Avinash and Rubina's acting .Avinash is superb in reflecting his thoughts without speaking a word.
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I really hope they continue to write Dev consistent, he is doing everything right it is Radhika who is doing the wrong things. I know she wants to fulfill her promise and do right by others, but she is not doing right by Dev. I hope Dev makes her realize her mistake before its too late and I hope Barkha has the common sense to leave. Barkha's presence is only increasing problems, she means well but it is time for her to go and let Radhika and Dev work things out themselves.
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Mandy I agree...Dev and even Barkha are doing right but Radhika thinks she knows the best what RP should do and fulfilling Dadaji's wishes but she is doing totally opposite..
I am sickened by the CB commercial abt Dehlij ke ander ki bahu aur dehlij ke bahar ki bahu...What are these CVs promoting?? 2 women invlolved with RP? 😡 Who is writing this scrip?
Radhika is going to introduce Barkha as RPurohitaayan I bet...Both dev and barkha will be shocked with Radhika's decision...How is Radhika going to do prayaschit of this lie..Dev-Radhika are married..SHe is insulting her own vows which she took in front of fire twice..
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During the mariage ceremony Dev after taking 7 vachans had taken another one that he will see that he fulfils all wishes of Radhika and will this clash with his RP duties of doing the right thing and will he now be compelled to fulfil her wishes that Bh should be a Rptine if Radhika turns adamant. and does not agree she be made RPtine Though the episode and precap was very good these questions seem to come to my find after watching the promo which was run by the channel last week
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Angie ... enjoyed reading your thoughts

Loved the episode today mainly for the way they showed Dev ... this character has come a long way from being considered a servant in his own house to now commanding the respect of everyone he meets ... Avinash did an awesome job - looked and acted like a prince .. perfect blend of leadership and humility ... his scene on the couch was excellent too

Feel very sorry for Rads ... has been brainwashed into thinking that the best thing for dev is for him to leave her ... and is slowly going on a path of self-destruction while assuming that she is doing the right thing ... wish someone would drive some sense into her .. Ruby did a fabulous job today though i was wondering what she was up to ... is she going to deny being married to him tomorrow?

And will all of next week be about the conflict between them

Overall, wish they would have reserved this for the maha episode next week ... wonder what they have in store for that one

However, i still do have questions ... first of all, those repelling promos must be in the minds of most people ... wish they would show some new promos and show a strong dev questioning rads decision ... this should be more abt the conflict between dev and rads or how dev fights against society for rads ... and not the senseless andhar wali bahar wali track they are promoting

Finally, I have to go back to why i watch this show - Avinash and Rubina are just excellent and are capable of taking us into this fictional world with ease ... i only hope that going forward the screen play matches up to what they can offer


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Great thoughts Angie.
i too had some same thoughts as u...
let me get into it.

Originally posted by: why6

The scene continued from yesterday when villagers come just as when Dev is about to close the temple. Radhika smiles with satisfaction while Dev is stunned to see reaction of villagers. They are overjoyed that the future RP is now doing puja in the temple that has been closed for 12 years. Also they told him that they were destitute for 12 years and now good things have started happening ever since the temple was reopened by Dada (Now my question is weren't villagers angry at closing of the temple and how come BB ruled without any problems when she wasn't doing dharamsabhas or had closed the revered temple? They never showed that there was discontent on anybody's part...we used to write about this in the thread...that is the problem with this show...they never close any loopholes).
Angie might be even the people there know that only RP does the puja there, and since they knew the condition of RPji they too accepted it went through it. And now when they saw their RP( Dev) they overwhelmed with happiness.
Anyway, they pay a lot of respects to Dev (touching his feet etc.) with one woman acting as Shabri (tribal low caste woman who had fed Ram fruits after tasting each one herself). Here she feeds Dev by her hands and tells him to do his duty of RP properly. Dev is slowly realizing that people really are looking forward to having a leader and he has to assume that responsibility. Radhika smiles with satisfaction and thanks Kanha that he helped her (so the sankalp was to close the doors and Dev couldn't fulfill the sankalp.) So was the shank dwani related to Radhika's intentions of making sure that Dev takes RP responsibility ? But then Dev never refused the responsibility. Even with Dada, he was saying that he wants to do all his duties - be a good RP and be a husband to Radhika. Then he had prayed yesterday to give him mental strength so that he doesn't do injustice to any.
@ the underlined part...wasnt he supposed to not eat anything other than fruits?!!!!!!😲
but anyway he didnt seem anything wrong in that when he compared to that situation and he gave more importance to the emotional and pure heart of the lady she was offering, and he understand her hope and faith of her in RP. So he did what he could do that time to consoul her soul.



Will the creatives ever tell what his sankalp was if it was to close the temple doors, why was he able to take it with Kanha's will? There are no conversations between leads today at all. So we don't know.
i think we have to wait for that ( Suspence 😳 😆 ) it might be reveal as the high point after he reveal the truth of his relationship and would justify his decision...I guess we have to wait for that.


The next scene is of Radhika giving heavy RPtain clothes to Barkha who has again become dumb because she is not able to understand that Radhika is acting different (discounts it), she herself is wearing simple clothes and giving Barkha the heavy clothes suitable for RPtain. Usually I don't waste ink on Barkha or her mother, but mother seems ambitious. She wants Barkha to be RPtain but is not concerned that this would be an unmarried woman doing something immoral (adharam). So the entire selfish PF and Barkha's mother want her to take away somebody's rights and become RPtain. Barkha is strange that she is sticking around despite knowing that if she is not there, nobody can do anything. Also Barkha's jaap is of Dev doing this or wanting this or that...creatives and their silly games despite falling ratings.
It was the dumbest scene in the episode i must say. Barkha's stupidity koodh koodh ke jhalak raha tha...and my Radh, she's totally gone MAD. just a stubborn and stupid girl.
me too for the underlined part, but even i was stunned at her mom's words.
Another one in the list of hypocrits.
Now there was a scene of Maheswari and Virat that confused me a lot. Maheswari doesn't want RP title to go to Dev even if they don't get it. So she wants to encourage Dev and Radhika's love. This is change in the story. The original will was that the property would go to trust if Dev doesn't become RP. She had reconciled herself to it and all she wanted was property. Now few days back she didn't want Radhika as Dev's wife because she wanted revenge against Radhika. So despite not liking Barkha, she was preferable to Radhika. Then until two days ago, she was talking about Virat becoming RP if Dev accepts Radhika and is rejected as RP. Now she is saying that property would go to trust if that happens...can creatives stick with one story for BB and stay consistent...BB looks for her security...why would she risk losing the cushy life just because she doesn't want Dev to become RP...Virat looks angry.. So BB's character was turned upside down.
Actually i liked Maheswari and Virat whole through the episode... i think Maheswari's characetr was right upto the mark...she tried some of her ways( did she??...anyways!!) but in the last moment realizing she couldnt do much so she gave up, if not for her then why not RPship gets its end.
and also i lked the live conversation of them as what would be Dev's decision 😆



There was no role for Rohan today but he was smirking during the ceremony as if he knew that Dev would not declare Radhika as his wife. Anyway, his and BB's goals are again clashing and they should benefit Dev. Misti calls BB Dev's guardian angel and it seems that BB is probably going to be that.
Rohan had very minimum, but his looks were intresting to watch, He was looking at Dev and Radh now and then...
Then it is nighttime with Padma and Dai as usual talking about RP legacy getting destroyed if Dev tells the truth (these two are quite selfish and cannot think beyond their own insecurities and obession about their master-Dada).
Cant change them, obssessed in their own world.
But I liked Dev's scene in the nighttime where he is lying outside on a couch thinking about his dilemma. I am liking how they are keeping Dada and chota Dev in the story to show this connection. Dev is remembering asking Dada how to make decision if one is on a crossroad. Dada had told him to close his eyes and think of God because he is the one who can show the right path. This means that Dada in the childhood was telling him to discount society and go with one's value system. Dev closes his eyes. So it seems that Dev is not looking towards the society or family for answers. He is discounting Radhika's words too. He is going deep inside to find that strenght to make the right decision.
yeah this was the best scene of the episode. I loved how he recollected those memories and wanted to find a way to get out of this...loved ur line( underline one). Dev was brilliant in this scene. His thoughtful expressions, his silence...
(I would actually give credit to CV's just for this scene, maybe this part will play a great support for Dev)
Meanwhile Radhika is her room and she is praying that this dark night brings a new morning that would bring happiness to the family and make things right. Her words and prayers are different. She is not asking that Dev accepts Barkha as his wife but do something that is right. So maybe the shank dhwani is for that. Even though she thinks Dev giving her up is the solution, she is asking Kanha to show Dev the right path. But the right path is declaring her as his wife publicly and then fighting the society for her rights. Is this where the story is going?...we will see in next few episodes.
I liked the editing part in this scene, they showed everybody's opinions as a brief scene.
I am sure Radh's prayer will be heard, the things will get right and then they wont be any confusion or in any false, if anything, that would be face to face...they will have to fight it
Finally, the RP tilak day arrives with everyone coming in. Some women calls Radhika characterles but it seems that she didn't hear. Nobody says anything to Rohan (the hypocritical society). So why is Radhika considered characterless? What is her status in the society? Now she is openly participating in all ceremonies and is wearing sindoor and mangalsutra. So whose wife does society consider her? Lets see if we get answers tomorrow.
here i too had the same doubts, The women were calling her characterless, ( i had the idea the socity calls her characterless but u know i completely forgot the reason why was she being called character, ( while watching the episode i was thinking Kyun, kya tha...lol..and then left the thought when the ceremony starts, the mantras) then when i read ur words then it striked me)
So even my question is same why is being Characterless, now she has the sindoor and magalsutra. So why the ladies were calling her that.
( i think it was the stupid mistake by CV's, only to show her being abused)

Dev's rajtilak is performed and he is looking grim throughout the ceremony. Radhika involves Barkha in all activities (sharing the wifely duties?). Dev is told by Mahant that he is 8th RP from this family and to maintain the legacy. BB is asking Virat whom Dev would choose. Virat gets irritated with her ( I was too as BB is now acting silly and her actions are not making sense). Anyway, Mahant asks Dev to call his wife so that they can do havan and she can be declared RPtain. Dev looks at Radhika who doesn't move and the episode ends.


liked the looks of Dev here, and Radh turns her face( not surprised).

Looking forward for todays episode.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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yes episode was really good, if it was not for the gharwali/ baharwali promo we would all have been very happy after the precap, but as far as the character of dev is concerned, he will not declare barkha as his wife for the sake of rp, he was against rads also for coming in as rohan's false wife. if everything is left to him , and he has to make a decision, he will not lie.

but u never know the cvs what will they do. fingers crossed.

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