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Posted: 14 years ago
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Yesterday's episode raised so many questions about RP's knowledge on Dharma and Justice or Nyaay...
1-RP tells Radhika that he doesnt want to sacrifice the love of two lovers in the name of Dharma...
Then why dint he give his decision as a RP..?why did he left the decision to Radhika or in a way forced her to give the decide..?People come to Dharma Sabha seeking justice from RP, but if a RP himself is a weak and cannot take the decision so whats the point of occupying the holy seat and doing injustice in the name of Dharma..?Funny thing is he told Radhika, he doesnt want to do injustice with her like he did with Chhaya..?but he is doing indirectly by asking Radhika to decide herself..
It was his decision that RaDev will marry on Janmashtami without thinking what the society will think or might ask the questions from him, he was so impatient, eager and excited that he dint even bother to ask the truth from Dev or Radhika...Ofcourse Radhika did said that her pheras were not completed..but RP never ever bother to give a thought about it..
2-RP announcing at home that the wedding of RaDev is called off..further he issue a command nobody will ask or discuss about it..
As a RP what was his duty?..he dint allowed Dev to meet with Radhika, just the way he did with his own son...isn't this a sacrifice of two lovers?
He himself announced the wedding without checking the facts..
Now he is calling off without consulting Mahant and his family..
Further issuing an order nobody will ask or discuss...
Agreed the questions raised by the person in Dharma sabha were adequate, cos RP is not an ordinary person, but the representative of Dharma or justice and people comes to Dharma sabha to seek a Nyaay, he is the mirror of society...he cannot just excuse himself...What if Radhika and Dev elope?..or She is adamant?...He knew Radhika's answer, that is the reason ask her decision...
He is undecided, caught in two minds, incapable, weak and a coward RP..

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Posted: 14 years ago
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RP is indeed a weak person-----
He is repeating the same mistakes, he made with his son---then he failed as a father in understanding the personal issues with his son and forcing him to marry Padma, and in the process, to be unjust to two women; and RP failed as a RP too in maintaing the sanctity of marriage

And now history repeats itself---He has failed again as a grandfather and again as a RP...

He was even weaker this time and did not have the guts to even make the decision...instead he "leaves" the decision for Radhika--knowing full well the path she will choose...RP selected his words carefully to direct the decision...

To me---he failed in all aspects and is the real "villain"...I loved the question Dev asks him "are you preventing me from meeting Radhika as an RP or as Dadaji"...

Would love to see RP grovel at Radhika's feet at some point...asking for her forgiveness...


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: radhika5

RP is indeed a weak person-----
He is repeating the same mistakes, he made with his son---then he failed as a father in understanding the personal issues with his son and forcing him to marry Padma, and in the process, to be unjust to two women; and RP failed as a RP too in maintaing the sanctity of marriage

And now history repeats itself---He has failed again as a grandfather and again as a RP...

He was even weaker this time and did not have the guts to even make the decision...instead he "leaves" the decision for Radhika--knowing full well the path she will choose...RP selected his words carefully to direct the decision...

To me---he failed in all aspects and is the real "villain"...I loved the question Dev asks him "are you preventing me from meeting Radhika as an RP or as Dadaji"...

Would love to see RP grovel at Radhika's feet at some point...asking for her forgiveness...


He is actually taking advantage of RP post...thats the reason when he cannot take decision he passes the order of no one will ask anything from him..Why?..as RP you have to tell the truth to your family and try to find the solution of the serious matter and not just shut their mouths, where as being Eldest member of the family it is his duty to call Mansa and sit with him and try to sort the things..and also check the facts from RaDev...
He ruined 5 lives in past..his son, padma, chhaya, Rohan and Dev..all in name of his traditions and sanskaars..now he is repeating same mistake and ruining more lives..
Radhika is more firm headed and intelligent thn him..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Dadaji has only one thing in his mind and that is RP name...everything else comes in 2nd place!When a human focuses all his energy on smth,gives all his power to it ,becomes one with it...oblivious to anything else...he comes out of his center of attention when his path crosses with others life...and he will do anything to get it out of the way...even if it means to crash it dead...that happens to dadaji,his passion became a weakness,an ilness that affected devs parents,padma and now radev...His cure will be a powerful confrontation between him and dev...knock some sense into him that egoism or sacrifice isnt everything...but there is a way in the middle...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I entirely agree with this. DDjee is surely not fit enough to be a RP.

An RP is someone who can uphold the traditions and justice in front of the society. But what he has done in the past is nothing but selfishness. In his so called bashan about RPti to Rads, he said that RP's should never think about themselves but about the greater good -- society. Did he do that?

When he refused Hari and Chaya's wedding, was it for the benefit of the society? What would have gone wrong for the society if Hari had married Chaya (who i presume although was from a poor but a brahmin family because she was Hari's guru's daughter) Nothing.

But yes, his word to Padma's family would have gone null and people would have pointed fingers at him. For saving his own skin, he asked Hari to sacrifice Chaya and not for any betterment of the society! Infact, if he had the real guts of an RP...he would have gone and asked for forgiveness from Padma's family and should have said that for the sake of keeping his name intact he would never sacrifice a young girl's (Padma) life. I am sure, people would have respected him more...because instead of thinking about only his honor, he considered everyone's feelings. But Ofcourse DDjee didn't do anything like that.

Even now, he so hastily agreed to RaDev wedding without thinking of the consequences that might arise. An RP is someone who should have some foresightedness, but DDJee never thought that something like this can happen. And now because someone pointed his fingers at DDjee's so called fake reputation, he is all worried to protect himself.

The manner in which he manipulated Rads in to saying exactly what he wanted to hear was detestable! He could have just said that, but no he instead wanted to keep his image intact in front of Rads! If he asked directly, he would come out as selfish, which he would never do, so he instead asked her to decide! Put the entire pressure on her, entirely knowing that she would eventually sacrifice Dev. This old man is really cunning! And then he comes and in an RP-pish voice says that the wedding shall not happen, and no one should ask anything! huh? Why?

Glad that Dev stood up! People should stop treating him with concern and love! he doesnt deserve this. i seriously hope, Dev asks DDjee some questions about the past as to why was his mother treated like this, for no fault of hers? He didn't do that earlier...but now at this juncture, he should surely ask!! Hope they show that!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: set_raj

Yesterday's episode raised so many questions about RP's knowledge on Dharma and Justice or Nyaay...

RBG good post Rp is just a hypocrite dishonest fellow in terms of emotions and dharma he has one for others and one for himself and in a autocrat way he has spoilt his whole family and made his son do adarma
1-RP tells Radhika that he doesnt want to sacrifice the love of two lovers in the name of Dharma...

He just changed his strategy with the next generation
Then why dint he give his decision as a RP..?why did he left the decision to Radhika or in a way forced her to give the decide..?People come to Dharma Sabha seeking justice from RP, but if a RP himself is a weak and cannot take the decision so whats the point of occupying the holy seat and doing injustice in the name of Dharma..?Funny thing is he told Radhika, he doesnt want to do injustice with her like he did with Chhaya..?but he is doing indirectly by asking Radhika to decide herself..

may be this way he feels relieved that its not his responsibility of the consequeses and fools himself and others coward fellow😡


It was his decision that RaDev will marry on Janmashtami without thinking what the society will think or might ask the questions from him, he was so impatient, eager and excited that he dint even bother to ask the truth from Dev or Radhika...Ofcourse Radhika did said that her pheras were not completed..but RP never ever bother to give a thought about it..

As if he could not think himself till someone pointed out in the dharma sabha and sent him a letter now why will someone do that did he think no the minute someone pointed out his kohinoor (Radhika) became stone.demak ghass charne chala gaya CB will reform him also.
2-RP announcing at home that the wedding of RaDev is called off..further he issue a command nobody will ask or discuss about it..
As a RP what was his duty?..he dint allowed Dev to meet with Radhika, just the way he did with his own son...isn't this a sacrifice of two lovers?
He himself announced the wedding without checking the facts..
Now he is calling off without consulting Mahant and his family..
Further issuing an order nobody will ask or discuss...

But here the response will be different dev will not listen and he is behaving like Hitler and Saddam RP😆😡
Agreed the questions raised by the person in Dharma sabha were adequate, cos RP is not an ordinary person, but the representative of Dharma or justice and people comes to Dharma sabha to seek a Nyaay, he is the mirror of society...he cannot just excuse himself...What if Radhika and Dev elope?..or She is adamant?...He knew Radhika's answer, that is the reason ask her decision...
He is undecided, caught in two minds, incapable, weak and a coward RP..

Absolutely correct

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Chalhov: Hehe, true, he changed the strategy for the next generation. To Hari, he demanded and in front of Rads, he acted like a weak man. Basically he keeps forward his wishes after studying the manner in which the person in front would react. He knew his son would anyways give in, if he demanded and he got it. Similarly he knew, how to push Rads in a way, he doesn't come out as bad! Sadly, he just came out as that in front of Rads! Couldn't myself from cheering Rads when she called him RPjee in a stern, firm voice and then turned her head when he kept his hand to bless her! She obviously doesn't need this hypocrite man's blessing! In a way, by doing this, as u said, he feels relieved of his own guilt. Because he can say, someone else decided it. Sad person!

Yup, and he couldn't think of the consequences until someone pointed out. Remember the way, he hushed the Pandit...by saying, "I am RP and believe me, Rads is pure!" but ofcourse, that did seed the doubts in his mind!

Kashi Maharaj is really great, now i feel. Hadn't he told RP about chota pota being destined to be RP, this old man would have never given Dev the due respect! Probably Kashi Maharaj knew this old man very well and thus had said that CB would come and remove all obstacles from his life...probably that was to make this old man realize that Rads is precious to this house!


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Dadaji has only one thing in his mind and that is RP name...everything else comes in 2nd place!When a human focuses all his energy on smth,gives all his power to it ,becomes one with it...oblivious to anything else...he comes out of his center of attention when his path crosses with others life...and he will do anything to get it out of the way...even if it means to crash it dead...that happens to dadaji,his passion became a weakness,an ilness that affected devs parents,padma and now radev...His cure will be a powerful confrontation between him and dev...knock some sense into him that egoism or sacrifice isnt everything...but there is a way in the middle...

Yes now is the time Dev confronts with him and vent out his anger and injustice done with him and his parents in the name of Parampara and Raj purohiti...ask him to bring back his mother, ask him to turn the clock back..now its the time Dev should tell him the truth about his marriage with Radhika..let him decide thn, if he doesnt, thn Dev shud leave the house and go with Radhika...let this old junkie brain regret for lifetime..cos his so called ego and adharma as RP he lost his son and grandson..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sia_lovely


I entirely agree with this. DDjee is surely not fit enough to be a RP.

An RP is someone who can uphold the traditions and justice in front of the society. But what he has done in the past is nothing but selfishness. In his so called bashan about RPti to Rads, he said that RP's should never think about themselves but about the greater good -- society. Did he do that?

When he refused Hari and Chaya's wedding, was it for the benefit of the society? What would have gone wrong for the society if Hari had married Chaya (who i presume although was from a poor but a brahmin family because she was Hari's guru's daughter) Nothing.

But yes, his word to Padma's family would have gone null and people would have pointed fingers at him. For saving his own skin, he asked Hari to sacrifice Chaya and not for any betterment of the society! Infact, if he had the real guts of an RP...he would have gone and asked for forgiveness from Padma's family and should have said that for the sake of keeping his name intact he would never sacrifice a young girl's (Padma) life. I am sure, people would have respected him more...because instead of thinking about only his honor, he considered everyone's feelings. But Ofcourse DDjee didn't do anything like that.

Even now, he so hastily agreed to RaDev wedding without thinking of the consequences that might arise. An RP is someone who should have some foresightedness, but DDJee never thought that something like this can happen. And now because someone pointed his fingers at DDjee's so called fake reputation, he is all worried to protect himself.

The manner in which he manipulated Rads in to saying exactly what he wanted to hear was detestable! He could have just said that, but no he instead wanted to keep his image intact in front of Rads! If he asked directly, he would come out as selfish, which he would never do, so he instead asked her to decide! Put the entire pressure on her, entirely knowing that she would eventually sacrifice Dev. This old man is really cunning! And then he comes and in an RP-pish voice says that the wedding shall not happen, and no one should ask anything! huh? Why?

Glad that Dev stood up! People should stop treating him with concern and love! he doesnt deserve this. i seriously hope, Dev asks DDjee some questions about the past as to why was his mother treated like this, for no fault of hers? He didn't do that earlier...but now at this juncture, he should surely ask!! Hope they show that!

Agreed with You Sia...he only knows how to preach and emotionally blackmail the people who respects and loves him most...he deserved people like BB and Virat...who can answer, shout and refuse to obey him...
He cudhv gone to Padma's parents and asked forgiveness as his son Hari has married Chhaya and I dont want to ruin three lives and also of a future kids...but he was more worried about his prestige and RPship...so he sacrificed his most obedient son's family..Dev was abused, ill-treated, cursed throughout his life by those villians..and inspite of seeing his Grandson suffering, this egoist man kept mum...
Now seeing he is in tight corner, he is saving his own skin, reputation, prestige in society by sacrificing RaDev's love..why he dint thought about before announcing their marriage?
Now its the time Dev should ask him, why he and his parents has to sacrifice always?..what was his fault?..when he knew that Hari is married, why did he forced him to marry Padma?..isnt adharma in the name of Rajpurohiti.?being a RP how can he do the injustice with Chhaaya and Hari? and now with Dev and Radhika?...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sia_lovely


@Chalhov: Hehe, true, he changed the strategy for the next generation. To Hari, he demanded and in front of Rads, he acted like a weak man. Basically he keeps forward his wishes after studying the manner in which the person in front would react. He knew his son would anyways give in, if he demanded and he got it. Similarly he knew, how to push Rads in a way, he doesn't come out as bad! Sadly, he just came out as that in front of Rads! Couldn't myself from cheering Rads when she called him RPjee in a stern, firm voice and then turned her head when he kept his hand to bless her! She obviously doesn't need this hypocrite man's blessing! In a way, by doing this, as u said, he feels relieved of his own guilt. Because he can say, someone else decided it. Sad person!

Yup, and he couldn't think of the consequences until someone pointed out. Remember the way, he hushed the Pandit...by saying, "I am RP and believe me, Rads is pure!" but ofcourse, that did seed the doubts in his mind!

Kashi Maharaj is really great, now i feel. Hadn't he told RP about chota pota being destined to be RP, this old man would have never given Dev the due respect! Probably Kashi Maharaj knew this old man very well and thus had said that CB would come and remove all obstacles from his life...probably that was to make this old man realize that Rads is precious to this house!


He is a manipulator..he knows the weakness of others and he strikes at right time be it with Hari or Radhika or Dev...actually he deserves people like Maheshwari and Virat..he doesnt need honest and good people..
Kashi Maharaj knew his adamant nature..I wish Dev and Radhika should leave him at the mercy of that gunda gang...😆
I think Barkha has given overdose of Dabur chawanprash mixed in Almond tel..thts why he is so energetic now..

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