Kesar and his 2 wives??

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Faz

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Posted: 14 years ago

Okay I was just discussing this with a friend that if Kesar marries Talli then won't he have 2 wives and then isn't that illegal? Is bigamy legal in Talsagra?

Or is Kesar going to divorce Gulaal before marrying Talli...but then that brings up the question of Gulaal being unmarried again and then there's no reason for her to stay in the house? And then no point of the show 😆

if Gulaal has to terminate her marriage she'll have to do so in da panchayat...dat means Dushy will be heading the proceedings as the Sarpanch...how will dat affect Kesar and Gulaal...Dushy officially breaking off their Deeyarvattu...

Am I the only one thinking this?

If the family don't have any problem with that, then what about the village people? I'm sure everyone will come up with things and rumors which won't be appropriate in regards to Kesar marrying Talli. I'm not even sure that the people will accept the marriage! Let's hope Durgesh create hangama over the marriage! At least we can get some masala that way! 😛

What does everyone think? Will he be allowed to have a 2nd wife?

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TheLastCarnival

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Posted: 14 years ago

*Pallo gliding into the thread*

Aaahhh just what I was thinking...

I'm counting majorly on Jamna Kaki, Poonam Ba, Duggguuu and to sum extent Paan Ba to create a hungama!!!

I seriously dun like the idea of Kesar having two wives...one who is gonna live like a widow da rest of her life and the other who is gonna still remain oblivious to the truth dat her husband married her impulsvely!!!!

DA MARRIAGE BETTAH NOT HAPPEN!!!

I just hope Gulaal realizes the she is not making her precious Talli's life but breaking it!!!

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Anjalg

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Posted: 14 years ago

Good post. This is exactly what I have been thinking about...I know that Kes and Gul were not married in a court of law but surely the traditions of deeyavattu mean something! So, technically Kes should be divorcing Gul before he can get married. At the moment the CV's are treating the whole track like a game between little children...you marry him, then I'll marry him, then he marries me etc etc

Jamunaa is the only person who has openly opposed this union but she has her personal vendetta behind it. I don't think Motaabha and Paanbha are too excited about Kes and Talli either because they care deeply for Gulaal. Also, I am pretty sure they are well aware that once Kes gets married to Talli...Gulaal is a widow again...at the mercy of Jamunaa and the village people treating her like crap...Oh, lets not forget the one person who wants nothing more than Gul to start treating Kes like her husband - Gul's mom...

So like you said, a lot of people including the villagers should be opposing this marriage. Lets just hope all these people can knock some sense into both Kes and Gul before the big day.

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Posted: 14 years ago

oh oh

i wish kesar ko gulal ki dairy mil jaye aur ussay saray sachchae ka pat chal jaye is se pehlay k us ki shaadi hojae us chipko talli se

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Posted: 14 years ago

From what I know, it's technically illegal under Hindu Law. But it's not something completely enforced by the gov't. If the village/parties are not really registering a complaint, nothing really happens. Plus, like someone said it's not a marriage in the court of law. It's a ritual marriage that's accepted by the village. Hence if the village, or head of the village accepts this marriage, it poses no problems.

Both Polygyny and Polyandry (woman with more than one husband) are still around in parts of India. Hell, even in cities--look at some of the South Indian politicians have mistresses or second wives.Though the marriage may not be registered in court, they often go through the rituals; they are considered second wives by the people and referred to as such by the media..

And even more so, the Supreme Court just ruled that children of mistresses, second wives are entitled to inheritance.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/1110504/jsp/opinion/story_13935831.jsp

I'm guessing since it was planned by some family members to have Kesar marry later, it was always deemed acceptable. Or, rather, that they knew that it would be deemed acceptable by the village.

ETA: In the same way that technically Gulaal marrying Kesar was also illegal since he was under the age of consent. But it still happens. And even more so, activists in India tend to work within the framework rather completely stopping the practice.

https://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/child-brides/gorney-text

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Anjalg
At the moment the CV's are treating the whole track like a game between little children...you marry him, then I'll marry him, then he marries me etc etc

That's true! It' starting to give me an Ektamai barbadi feel to it

Originally posted by: Anjalg
Jamunaa is the only person who has openly opposed this union but she has her personal vendetta behind it. I don't think Motaabha and Paanbha are too excited about Kes and Talli either because they care deeply for Gulaal. Also, I am pretty sure they are well aware that once Kes gets married to Talli...Gulaal is a widow again...at the mercy of Jamunaa and the village people treating her like crap...Oh, lets not forget the one person who wants nothing more than Gul to start treating Kes like her husband - Gul's mom...

So like you said, a lot of people including the villagers should be opposing this marriage. Lets just hope all these people can knock some sense into both Kes and Gul before the big day.

Well its more like selfish reasons, she's only doing all the stirring so that Dushyant can get married, even she thinks Dushy is in love with Gulaal! *rolls eyes* but other than that yeah I hope the villagers at least start gossiping again, I hope Durgesh creates a bigger drama about TK's marriage so that it won't happen! I don't think the family's thinking about what people are gonna say when TK do get married cause then Gulaal is really the side piece, do they not think that people won't talk? 🤓

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: likarsh
From what I know, it's technically illegal under Hindu Law. But it's not something completely enforced by the gov't. If the village/parties are not really registering a complaint, nothing really happens. Plus, like someone said it's not a marriage in the court of law. It's a ritual marriage that's accepted by the village. Hence if the village, or head of the village accepts this marriage, it poses no problems.

And even more so, the Supreme Court just ruled that children of mistresses, second wives are entitled to inheritance.
I'm guessing since it was planned by some family members to have Kesar marry later, it was always deemed acceptable. Or, rather, that they knew that it would be deemed acceptable by the village.

ETA: In the same way that technically Gulaal marrying Kesar was also illegal since he was under the age of consent. But it still happens. And even more so, activists in India tend to work within the framework rather completely stopping the practice.

@likarsh: Good post! But then if it is allowed then I'm sure by now Raman would've had another wife, he had a mistress but thats a different thing to having a 2nd wife and her living in the same house. We all know how much he "likes" Sudha but it hasnt happened!

As for the village accepting it, well since Dushyant has become the village's head, I wonder how much of this he will support, I mean he read Kesar's letter and I feel that he has a notion about Kesar being in love with Gulaal so if he refuses along with other villagers to accept Talli as Kesar's wife, then I guess it will make us all very happy GK fans! Hope it happpens!

Oh and the deyarvattu being illegal, well that depends, because in some parts of India, its practised because of traditions and it might be perfectly legal in one state when it isn't in other, this is probably why no action was taken against Gulaal because it is one of their rituals to get the widow married to the deceased's brother, hence Gulaal married Kesar and his age didn't matter and I guess it was only frowned upon because people thought Gulaal was digging a hole for herself to fall in which they were right about.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Deeyavatu can be breaked off and remains no more and declared by the head of the village which is what Motabha wanted to do when he he found out about the deeyavatu that happened

Motabha and Paanbha had a deeyavatu - their marriage was that, can we say they arent married today, they are and thats the tradition

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Lennie

Motabha and Paanbha had a deeyavatu - their marriage was that, can we say they arent married today, they are and thats the tradition

Okay now thats interesting I didn't know! So Paanbaa had to marry Motabha? I bet they were probably the same age, are both Kesar and Vasant Motabha's sons? 😕

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KhatamKahani

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Originally posted by: maybe-just

@likarsh: Good post! But then if it is allowed then I'm sure by now Raman would've had another wife, he had a mistress but thats a different thing to having a 2nd wife and her living in the same house. We all know how much he "likes" Sudha but it hasnt happened!

As for the village accepting it, well since Dushyant has become the village's head, I wonder how much of this he will support, I mean he read Kesar's letter and I feel that he has a notion about Kesar being in love with Gulaal so if he refuses along with other villagers to accept Talli as Kesar's wife, then I guess it will make us all very happy GK fans! Hope it happpens!

Oh and the deyarvattu being illegal, well that depends, because in some parts of India, its practised because of traditions and it might be perfectly legal in one state when it isn't in other, this is probably why no action was taken against Gulaal because it is one of their rituals to get the widow married to the deceased's brother, hence Gulaal married Kesar and his age didn't matter and I guess it was only frowned upon because people thought Gulaal was digging a hole for herself to fall in which they were right about.

Gulaal is not objecting to Kesar-Talli, and herself said she would marry them off. Whereas Sudha, as well as the head of Raman's family wouldn't be keen on it. Thus the difference. So I can see why Kesar and Talli would be allowed, while Raman wouldn't be allowed to--even if he wanted to take the mistress as a wife.

I can see Dushant objecting to it, though. That would be amazing. Gulaal's mother and others can object, too but if Gulaal herself gives the blessing, then ideally (if Dushant didn't have an inkling of Kesar's feelings) there really wouldn't be a reason for it to be disallowed.

As for the deyarvattu, yeah. The technicalities national code of law doesn't really apply everywhere, and depends on the municipality. The same would go for polygamy (or polygyny to be exact) in the village as well, I guess.

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