Woh humse khafa hain, hum unse khafa hain

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Woh humse khafa hain hum unse khafa hain
magar baat karne ko jee chahta hain
badi dilnashi hai yeh unki adaayen
adaaon pe marne ko jee chahta hain

jo kehna hai unse kahe bhi toh kaise
bina kutch kahe hum rahe bhi toh kaise
kasam chahaton ki mohabbat mein ab toh
hadho se guzarne ko jee chahta hain

jo dil ki dua hai kabhi kaam aaye
ghadi do ghadi ko toh aaram aaye

sanam baazuon ke hasi daayre mein
rokar bikharne ko jee chahta hain😳😭

Isn't the above song a perfect one for Jai and Bani at this moment......😳
Two people who have unknowingly fallen in love, despite all odds...
But one refuses to acknowlege it and the other refuses to confess it.....
But that still doesn't take away the love from their Hearts.....
Based on the happenings in the previous two episodes, questions for today:
    Do you "still" emphathize or relate to Jai after the allegations he put on Bani? Do you think that Jai really crossed the line this once or was he just a victim of manipulation and circumstances?
  • Important question : Both Jai and Bani have wronged one another....whom do you think has been more wronged and victimized?
    Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for the words that he used against her? Or will she hold a grudge against him for the rest of her life? Also, do you think that Bani should forgive Jai for the words he used? Do you think that Jai and Bani will strike a mutual deal for the sake of Mausi? Or will Bani agree unconditionally to Jai's offer? Incase, Jai and Bani come to an agreement and Bani asks Jai to let go (not forgive, just leave in peace) of Pia and Pushkar, do you think that Jai will concede to such a demand? Do you think that by the time Mausi leaves the Walia House, Jai will be hopelessly but silently in love with Bani? Will he express his feelings to Bani or will she guess it herself and accept his love?
  • Discussion Point : To quote "Erich Segal" from his classic novel, "Love Story"....."Love means never having to say Sorry..." Do you agree to this maxium and if Bani truly loves Jai, she has already forgiven him and holds no grudge against him.....Do you agree?

Will be awaiting your responses.....

Love,

MT😊

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Posted: 19 years ago
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cool song wat movie is it from pls let me know 😃 😊 😛
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Woh humse khafa hain hum unse khafa hain
magar baat karne ko jee chahta hain

badi dilnashi hai yeh unki adaayen
adaaon pe marne ko jee chahta hain

jo kehna hai unse kahe bhi toh kaise
bina kutch kahe hum rahe bhi toh kaise
kasam chahaton ki mohabbat mein ab toh
hadho se guzarne ko jee chahta hain

jo dil ki dua hai kabhi kaam aaye
ghadi do ghadi ko toh aaram aaye

sanam baazuon ke hasi daayre mein
rokar bikharne ko jee chahta hain😳😭

Isn't the above song a perfect one for Jai and Bani at this moment......😳
Two people who have unknowingly fallen in love, despite all odds...
But one refuses to acknowlege it and the other refuses to confess it.....
But that still doesn't take away the love from their Hearts.....
Based on the happenings in the previous two episodes, questions for today:
    Do you "still" emphathize or relate to Jai after the allegations he put on Bani? Do you think that Jai really crossed the line this once or was he just a victim of manipulation and circumstances? he is the victim of circumstances. he might have crossed his limit, but if u consider the situaion he is in, 99% of the people wud hav reacted in the same way. he needs time for his pain to heal, but he is not getting it and more pain is inflicted upon him Important question : Both Jai and Bani have wronged one another....whom do you think has been more wronged and victimized?
  • jai, of course. pia ditched him , bani for her family honour didnt say the truth to jai when pia -pushky made attempt of elopement for 1st time. bani cud have avoided all these ifshe had shown the courage to take pia-pushky b4 jai.she then sat on mandap- even though she did undr pressure but she cud have avoided it if she wud have tld adi or dadi abt pia instead of jigs. then ranveer made her sign papers which she signed without reading it. everyone should sign paper b4 reading it, specially when she knew ranveer too well.
  • Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for the words that he used against her? Or will she hold a grudge against him for the rest of her life? Also, do you think that Bani should forgive Jai for the words he used? she will forgive jai definitely but not so easily. it will take some time
    Do you think that Jai and Bani will strike a mutual deal for the sake of Mausi? Or will Bani agree unconditionally to Jai's offer? bani and jai should make deal mutually. i dnt think bani is in mood to save her marriage at any cost. even if she does agree unconditionally, there is jigs to spoil her married life. so she has to fight with more problms in future to make her marriage work. so its better she gets some advantage by striking a deal with jai and bani will surely asks for happiness of her sisters., not for herself.jai when makes a promise wont brk hopefully. Incase, Jai and Bani come to an agreement and Bani asks Jai to let go (not forgive, just leave in peace) of Pia and Pushkar, do you think that Jai will concede to such a demand? may be, may be not.😕 Do you think that by the time Mausi leaves the Walia House, Jai will be hopelessly but silently in love with Bani? Will he express his feelings to Bani or will she guess it herself and accept his love? anything can happen, even i have read that jigs will create trouble by bringing in jai's former girlfrnd...😕 but jai if not hopelessly in love will definitely understand and like bani
  • Discussion Point : To quote "Erich Segal" from his classic novel, "Love Story"....."Love means never having to say Sorry..." Do you agree to this maxium and if Bani truly loves Jai, she has already forgiven him and holds no grudge against him.....Do you agree?

1stly , i think bani is still not in what u call "love" with jai. she understands him, empathise with him, wants to help him - bt still u cant say she has developed that romantic love for jai. bani is still not jai's humsafar, but she is his humdard. of course, this is the first stage in love where u have to be humdard b4 being humsafar. but some relationships canbe such dat the two person concerned always remain as humdard for life without having any romantic or physical aspect in it. nyways, speaking abt jai- bani she hasnt not forgiven him right now, but she will definitely forgive him later on when she will be completely in love as u predicted mt.

Will be awaiting your responses.....

Love,

MT😊

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hi mistletoe, i m new here. love yr post. i hereby give my views. hope u like it.

first thanks for nice song. suit jai-bani present condition.

- well i think this time jai crossed his line. he was being rude to bani before but never cross his line n managed to control his anger. but this time i don't know why. he should never as he love to respect the dignity of woman. but if we look from other side, we can say he is being victim of manipualation and circumstances. see when a person is very depress, angry and confused for such a long time and that too without his fault, i think he is very easily become the victim of other's saying no matter how clever n inteligent is he. when his sister clearly said on his face that coz of jai, 3 sisters got the power to stay in his house (i exactly didn't remember but she accused jai for all this happening), all the negetive feeling in jai's ange went above his head and he lost control and first time in his life i think say such a disgusting words to bani.

- both jai and bani victimised in the hands of destiny. we all know the reason why jai transformed from a good n loving human being to rude n angry human being. he was like this before. though serious type but never rude or partial to other. just like coconut. at the same time bani too suffer a lot in her short span of life. both are in extreme pain but one thing is common between jai-bani's pain is that pia. coz of her both suffer till today. positive side is that this pain will bring immense and intense love between jai-bani. love to see love affair of cuddles and honney bunny (MT in yr words. u have given nice nickname to jai-bani)

- when a person have a feeling of love for other person, he or she dont remember wht one say to other for the rest of the life and forgive them. here bani already fallen for jai and jai too on his way. if they don't then bani would not have written "mrs. walia" and jai would not have missed her. looking to this bani will forgive jai for whatever he said to her and also
jai apologised bani for his misbehaviour. both knows the real nature of opposit one and for that quality they like and love each other inspite of all the odds.

- both can be happend but in my opinion they will strike a deal for the sake of masi.

- definetly jai will agree to let pia and pushkar let go. in yesterday's episode when adi told jai that pia broke yr heart then why you punished bani. its not her fault. and the expression on jai's face clearly express
that he too believe what adi said. he even told bani "kash tum pia ki bahan nahi hoti. to tumhe ye sab bhugatna nahi padta" he knows bani is victimised for being pia's sister. also he remember that small gesture bani did for jai, both have opened their heart on face to face and that was the starting point jai start to love bani. when he will see its bani who save his life alias masi, he forget everything and deeply love and respect bani. (i guess)

for pia and pushkar personally i believe he should not destroy them but at the same time should not forgive them for whatever they did with him. 😡

- yes my dear, by the time she leaves the walia house, jai will hopelessely and intensively in love with bani. he should never let her go by now. jai is
by the nature very stright forward and like to tell stright on the face of a person. he never like to say anything on back of the peson. when he was in
love with pia, he directly proposed her. this rule of his applicable here also. he start to woo her. bani too understand his feelings. she said that "main apke dukh so samaj ne lagi thi" to kya useke pyar ko nahin samjegi?????? 😉

- i agree. love means never having to say sorry. i already wrote abt it very shortly in my 3rd point. but one thing is for sure. sometimes its necessary to say sorry eventhough you are a mature person and have deep love for each other. what i mean e.g. here jai told bad words to bani and naturally she felt bad. now assume that jai and bani are fall for love and if jai say sorry to her, its nothing but a boosting of respect and love in the heart of bani for jai. its a matter of boosting of her self respect too. she will think that she loves a man who have a guts to say sorry after
committing mistake. 😊

i hope you like my views.

love
kiah
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Thanks for the lovely response Kiah...and a very warm welcome to our Forum!!! 😃

Lolz...Cuddles is the name given by me, but Honey Bunny has been given by another member, a very good friend of mine, Sara!

Glad you like the name....wait till you hear the rest of them... 😉

Keep posting!

Love,

MT
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Woh humse khafa hain hum unse khafa hain
magar baat karne ko jee chahta hain...

Isn't the above song a perfect one for Jai and Bani at this moment......😳

Apt and wonderful lyrics for the present situation. now to answer ur queries.

Originally posted by: mistletoe

  • Do you "still" emphathize or relate to Jai after the allegations he put on Bani? Do you think that Jai really crossed the line this once or was he just a victim of manipulation and circumstances?

From Jai's perspective he saw some money missing from his account. The next day he goes and checks his accounts in office as well and once again he sees Bani's signature or something that makes him feel that Bani has indeed taken his money. His gut feeling says something else. But then proof is right in front of his. He goes home. He sees his sis jigs accusing Rano with Saahil. Pia's face comes to his mind. He goes berseck and says whatever that comes to his mind. Does not realize what he is speakin but just pours out whatever is in his mind. and yes he has allowed himself to ger manipulated by circumstances as he is completely broken-hearted.
This time I think that Jai crossed all his limits. Though he is justified in his anger but but one should always watch one's words while speaking. And as they say words once said cannot be taken back. He being a business tycoon and all surely by this time he should have been able gain control on his words and action.

Originally posted by: mistletoe

  • Important question : Both Jai and Bani have wronged one another....whom do you think has been more wronged and victimized?

Well this is a difficult question. Both have been wronged and victimized. Ironically the cause being the same person which is Pia. I would still say that Bani has been wronged a wee bit more than Jai but my sympathies are equally with Jai as well.
In case of Jai he had no say in whatever happened to him. he made a proposal. It was accepted by the girl. He asked the girl about her past. She says its clean slate. He builds castles of his dreams and on the D-Day it all crashes.
For Bani her only mistake was that she did not tell Jai about Pia and Pushkar earlier. She stated all sorts of reasons for being against the marriage incl age except Pushkar. Even on marriage day for the sake of honour for bot the families and thinking that Pia will be back on time she agreed for the marriage. Even though Bani wants to free Jai from his forced bondage of marriage but Jai does not allow her to as he wants to extract his revenge from Bani. Next time Jai gives her the reason of the loan that he dad had taken.
Everytime Jai insults her and Bani suffers silently. She mentioned clearly her reasons for doing so as well. As she considers it as 'prayashchit' for whatever Pia had done to jai and also she knows that Jai derives happiness from torturing her.

Originally posted by: mistletoe

  • Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for the words that he used against her? Or will she hold a grudge against him for the rest of her life? Also, do you think that Bani should forgive Jai for the words he used?

Yes Bani will forgive Jai for the words he used. She might hold a grudge but not for rest of her life. and yes I think that Bani should forgive jai but not before she makes him realize how wrong he was. and he is completely repentant. There is no point in holding grudges as it takes you nowhere. and once again the oft used line comes to my mind. 'To err is human, to forgive is divine'.

Originally posted by: mistletoe

  • Do you think that Jai and Bani will strike a mutual deal for the sake of Mausi? Or will Bani agree unconditionally to Jai's offer?

A deal is between both sides. so I don't think that Bani is going to agree unconditionally. But am sure that whatever her part of the bargain is it is going to be for someone's good. but what it will be is a question that am still unable to answer.

Originally posted by: mistletoe

  • Incase, Jai and Bani come to an agreement and Bani asks Jai to let go (not forgive, just leave in peace) of Pia and Pushkar, do you think that Jai will concede to such a demand?

Of course no. Jai is def not going to let go of Pia. Even if there is a remote chance of Jai agreeing to it Jai is def going to make a counter offer that bani instead of Pia has to undergo whatever Jai had destined for Pia. Or else Jai might say that I will let go of Pia for as long as you are there in Walia house bearing all my eccentricities. But the day you leave I will begin whatever that I was planning to do. Thereby sealing Mrs Walia's presence in his house always.

Originally posted by: mistletoe

  • Do you think that by the time Mausi leaves the Walia House, Jai will be hopelessly but silently in love with Bani? Will he express his feelings to Bani or will she guess it herself and accept his love?

By the time Maasi leaves Walia house Jai wud have surely developed some feelings for bani. But he is not going to realize it. Until Bani is out of his sight he is never going to understand her importance and of course the place that she holds in his life. and yes both of them are going to guess what is there in each others minds. But Bani's ego might stop her from expressing it directly but I think that she is going to say indirectly (like how she said that 'ko woh kabhi samajh hi nahi paaye' when she was leaving the house with Rano.) to him. In fact as Bani guesses that Jai has indeed developed some feelings for her she might just stay back even after maasi leaves. Or Maasi will extract some promise from Bani that she has to promise to stay with Jai forever.

Originally posted by: mistletoe

  • Discussion Point : To quote "Erich Segal" from his classic novel, "Love Story"....."Love means never having to say Sorry..." Do you agree to this maxium and if Bani truly loves Jai, she has already forgiven him and holds no grudge against him.....Do you agree?

They do say some similiar words for friendship as well right. I remember the movie 'Maine Pyar kiya' and the dialogue 'Friendship means no sorry , no thank you'. I guess am digressing from the topic here as we are talking about love and not friendship. In any relationship its a success only when are u are able to accept a person completely with his vices and virtues. Some ppl are never able to say sorry even though they do repent for it. It is the realization that matters and not the word 'sorry'. I agree with the statement completely. So as i said earlier its enough as long as two persons respect each other and give each other some breathing space. and yes if Bani truly loves Jai which am sure she is she is going to forgive him as soon as she sees that he did not actually mean whatever he said and that he repents his action though he may never put these in words like 'sorry' but I think that he may show it in some other action. For a man to actually say sorry to a person he needs to completely trust and love and both come with time. He needs to be sure that he is not going to be judged as a weak person just because he said 'sorry'. So in Jai-Bani relationship I expect this closeness to occur in due course of time and Jai will also mend his ways with time. So until then Bani needs to only see Jai's hidden expressions and sentences to realize that he is actually sorry. I remember the scene where Jai was shouting at Bani for visiting Pia's house. But as soon as he knows the reason his expression changes and am sure Bani would have noticed that. These subtle things matter a lot in a relationship.

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Personally speaking, I think that Bani getting the ticket in the name of Bani walia might hold some importance. If Bani had saved maasi then Jai might miss her in the hospital and some doc/nurse might mention that she was talking about going to rly station to catch a train. Jai might search the passenger list for Bani Dikshit while he sees the name Bani Walia. So that also might create some sort of thoughts in him. What say ?

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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Based on the happenings in the previous two episodes, questions for today:
  • Do you "still" emphathize or relate to Jai after the allegations he put on Bani? Do you think that Jai really crossed the line this once or was he just a victim of manipulation and circumstances?

Definitely crossed the line.. let other factors shadow his conscience and retaliated based on untrue facts

  • Important question : Both Jai and Bani have wronged one another....whom do you think has been more wronged and victimized?

Baani was never really consciencely (uurrghh ignore the error please) involved she was in it coz of her loyalty towardss her lil sis.. we all wud do that in real circumstances too.. the only thing she did was get pia married at jai's house.. that was taking the angry bull right by its horns.. !

Jai on the other side is broken .. he is in pain and wants revenge.. thats all ok but to take it out on Bani knowling she is not involved is wrong.... he does it most times even though i feel his inner voice tells him otherwise.. he is stubborn n at the moment at his worst ...

i guess in a way both are in it equally and not so also... its somthing that only passes away with time and the anger dulls.. but still Jai has more power and so also the excuse to eb as brutal as he wishes

  • Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for the words that he used against her? Or will she hold a grudge against him for the rest of her life? Also, do you think that Bani should forgive Jai for the words he used?

Bani should make him apologize to the sis and herself.. she is a softie she will forget the episode.. she is angry but wil realise Jai's reason too n understand

  • Do you think that Jai and Bani will strike a mutual deal for the sake of Mausi? Or will Bani agree unconditionally to Jai's offer?

Its already out that he will .. im just hoping its an interesting one .. i mean bani really makes him wish he hadnt said those things abt Pia and Rano

  • Incase, Jai and Bani come to an agreement and Bani asks Jai to let go (not forgive, just leave in peace) of Pia and Pushkar, do you think that Jai will concede to such a demand?

he mite temporarily agree .. he seems to be exceptionally fond of his maasi..

  • Do you think that by the time Mausi leaves the Walia House, Jai will be hopelessly but silently in love with Bani? Will he express his feelings to Bani or will she guess it herself and accept his love?

Yes i feel he wud be.. hopelessly but silently in love and make excuses to make her stay with hhim on some pretext or another though Jigyasa will take care that the situation gets out out hand as soon as is ketka-serial-regular-trend possible!! By the way i dont think the Maasi will leave for a looooong long time..

  • Discussion Point : To quote "Erich Segal" from his classic novel, "Love Story"....."Love means never having to say Sorry..." Do you agree to this maxium and if Bani truly loves Jai, she has already forgiven him and holds no grudge against him.....Do you agree?

I seriously dont think Bani is in love with jai at the moment.. i think she has resigned to her fate for the moment but for love to enter her heart . theres still time 😭

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MT, u spooked me out with the song!!! I was thinking of how Jai-Bani will behave when they are alone and I thought of this song, I simply love the song, especially the 2nd para "Sanam ke baazuon ke hasi daayre mein rokar bikharne ko jee chahta hain" I am sure one day we are going to se these two breakdown in eachother arms for eachother. 😭 😳



Based on the happenings in the previous two episodes, questions for today:
Do you "still" emphathize or relate to Jai after the allegations he put on Bani? Do you think that Jai really crossed the line this once or was he just a victim of manipulation and circumstances?

I have never sympathized with Jai, I understand him most of the times. Jai as a character doesn't need sympathy from anyone, he needs understanding and care. I relate to him more than I empathize with him. What he did was WRONG. He had no right to behave in such a manner. But u cant decide u r with someone or against someone merely because of an instance. He has gone through a lot of emotional turmoil that he doesn't trust himself, forget his sense of judgment or any positive emotions he feels for anyone. I am not justifying his words, but I do understand Jai is not in the right frame of mind. And my judgment of the person will be based on what he does in his conscious self. I don't think I am too rigid about ethic and morals, and my judgment is not based on Right or Wrong. All I look for is, for that person carrying himself with Dignity of self and that of the other person and is Human enough to appeal to me. I sometimes find it difficult to relate to some PERFECT.

Jai definitely is a victim of manipulation, but even that isnt justification enough for what he did. Jigyasa talks about Bani & her sisters always in that manner, it hasn't ever affected us, she maximum gets a scowl when we talk about her. What was wrong was Jai speaking like that, he isnt someone who u expect to stoop down to such a level. What hurt most was he let down his dignity along with that of the woman he held in high regard, What hurts more is that he knew deep inside he was WRONG, but still couldn't get a control on himself. 😡 😕

Important question : Both Jai and Bani have wronged one another....whom do you think has been more wronged and victimized?

It is the matter of the heart and no one can measure the damage on the heart. No one is more or less hurt. We really cant hold it against a person for he feels more hurt than the other person feels in a similar situation, can we? If he is disturbed and in pain, u cant go up to tell him, u cant be feeling so much of pain cause the other person has coped with it. Nor can u reprimand someone from showing they are hurt,coz another person has the ability not to show pain. That doesn't mean the other person is in less pain. Hurt or Pain cant be correlated to the number of people or occasions u have been hurt. Jai-Bani have wronged one another and it will be impossible to put degree of damage they have done to eachother and hence decide who is more wrong. On the face and the way Jai behaves it seems Bani is the one victimized, but I refuse to acknowledge that argument. A lot to be blamed on the scriptwriters for not having a fair perspective of the two individuals.
There is no point in keeping log of who did what to whom. The most important thing that Jai-Bani have to realize is only they can heal eachother. Once that is done… it will be complete BLISS. 😳

Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for the words that he used against her? Or will she hold a grudge against him for the rest of her life? Also, do you think that Bani should forgive Jai for the words he used?

Bani is a kind of a person who cant hold grudge against anyone, least Jai. She might forgive him as well, she is too kind.
But if u ask me, She doesn't have to forgive him for what he said, she has a right to hold him wrong. I don't expect her to forgive Jai, just because he is her husband. Even if Bani decides to forgive Jai, it wont mean a thing if Jai doesn't realize his mistake and regret it. so more than Bani forgiving Jai, I want Jai to realize he is wrong. Bani decides to forgive Jai or not is her decision and she has right to make that. But yes, I would like it if she is able to overlook it cause once Jai is sorry for what he has done there is no point in dwelling on it for life.

Do you think that Jai and Bani will strike a mutual deal for the sake of Mausi? Or will Bani agree unconditionally to Jai's offer?

Can never say. I expect a deal, but I wont be surprised if Bani comes back for Massi without Jai asking her to. It might so happen, that Massi will know that she is the Bahu, and at the time of discharge Massi looks at Bani and Bani will join them else Massi will get hyper and it wont be good for her health. I wont be surprised if Bani sleeps in Massi's room in the pretext of taking care of Massi. Quite possible. If that is to happen, more than giving credit to Bani… I will be cribbing about the script which is on its way to make Bani a stereotypical Balaji Heroine 😕 .

Incase, Jai and Bani come to an agreement and Bani asks Jai to let go (not forgive, just leave in peace) of Pia and Pushkar, do you think that Jai will concede to such a demand?

Jai will concede in any case. Btw I think he only knows to give damkis… he hasnt done anything till now. It is only his sense of power that sense a signal of terror in everyone. And I am sure even if Bani didn't put any condition, he wont do anything. I don't know what Bani as referring to when she said Jai has managed to destroy Pia-Pushkar. I have no clue what did he do? Jai just disowned Pushkar. It was just that what ever pushkar was, it was coz he was under THE Jai Walia's patronage. It was Jai's name that gave an identity and standing in the business circle or society at large. Jai didn't send the creditors home to take away their debt. Jai just refused to be his surety. I though that was fair enough… Jai didn't turn his back to Pushkar, Pushkar went behind Jai and stabbed him 😡 . Why say jai destroyed them? Jai threw him out of the house… coz it was HIS house. He decides who stays there and who doesn't. What was expected out of Jai in that situation? Jai did NOTHING to destroy Pia-Pushkar. Only if he wanted to it would taken him only ONE minute of rage and use of his power. No one would have been able to stop him, not Bani not even Jai himself!

Do you think that by the time Mausi leaves the Walia House, Jai will be hopelessly but silently in love with Bani? Will he express his feelings to Bani or will she guess it herself and accept his love?

Jai is already in love with Bani, he just hasn't realized it. During Massi's stay he will realize it and will be quiet about it till the moment Bani is about to take the last step out of his life. Till then Jai will expect her to change her mind and come back to him. Bani will realize it. She knows and understands her man pretty well. But this time around she would want to hear it from him even if it for the 1st and the last time in their life together. So Jai starts rehearsing 'I Love u, Bani! Main tumhare bina jee nahi sakta.' U have to say it this time… no one is going to do that for u.

Discussion Point : To quote "Erich Segal" from his classic novel, "Love Story"....."Love means never having to say Sorry..." Do you agree to this maxium and if Bani truly loves Jai, she has already forgiven him and holds no grudge against him.....Do you agree?

As far as my understanding of the line goes, it means If it is Love, then it is UNCONDITIONAL. Love is having to accept the person the way they are, with their Positive and Negatives. U love someone for not only what they are but also for what they are not. If u love someone it doesn't mean u forgive that person for anything and everything. The line 'Love means never having to say sorry…' simply means love gives u the ability to overlook mistakes to make the relationship work. What it can also mean is there is so much of understanding in a relationship that u don't really have to SAY it to make the other one understand. The other person reads that u r sorry in your eyes.
It could also mean that in Love u don't do anything for which u have to say sorry. It is a very idealistic view… at the end of the day all are humans and unintentionally cause hurt to the other person.
But the way I understand it, it means Love is unconditional. Once u say unconditional saying sorry, thank u, I forgive becomes very trivial.
Bani loves him for sure and truly, but I doubt she will forgive him for she said her sisters are her pride. Having said that, Bani definitely has the ability to overlook it, since only that will take their relationship forward.
At the end ALL WELL THAT ENDS WELL! 😃

Hope I made some sense 😕
Luv
Anu.
Edited by anushka_5 - 19 years ago
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Wonderful Anu. I really liked reading your analysis and uncannily we do share the same thoughts on some of the points and its just that both of us have put it in different words and used different phrases. Do keep posting.

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    hiiii MT😊,perfect song for bani n jai😉 Do you "still" emphathize or relate to Jai after the allegations he put on Bani? Do you think that Jai really crossed the line this once or was he just a victim of manipulation and circumstances? no i think jai has crossed his line this time,before accusing bani he should have asked the manager n the banker even if bani had signed n asked for 70lakh rs why did'nt the manager or banker inform him n knowing he is surrounded by ranveer n jigs jaise log he should have gone through every paper n bani's biggest mistake was to sign the papers without reading it😭
  • Important question : Both Jai and Bani have wronged one another....whom do you think has been more wronged and victimized?i think both r victimized n wronged 😭
    Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for the words that he used against her? Or will she hold a grudge against him for the rest of her life? Also, do you think that Bani should forgive Jai for the words he used? knowing bani's character till now i think she might forgive jai ,according to me itne asani se nahin khoda toh jai toh pareshan karna hii chahiye bani kooo😉😆 Do you think that Jai and Bani will strike a mutual deal for the sake of Mausi? Or will Bani agree unconditionally to Jai's offer?i think bani might agree unconditionally to jai's offer😊 Incase, Jai and Bani come to an agreement and Bani asks Jai to let go (not forgive, just leave in peace) of Pia and Pushkar, do you think that Jai will concede to such a demand? nope jai won't concede to such a demand😕 Do you think that by the time Mausi leaves the Walia House, Jai will be hopelessly but silently in love with Bani? Will he express his feelings to Bani or will she guess it herself and accept his love? yup jai will be in love with bani but won't express his feelings he might take extra precaution this time so that bani does'nt run away from him😆i think bani will have no idea abt his feelings😳
  • Discussion Point : To quote "Erich Segal" from his classic novel, "Love Story"....."Love means never having to say Sorry..." Do you agree to this maxium and if Bani truly loves Jai, she has already forgiven him and holds no grudge against him.....Do you agree?nope i don't agree even if u love sumone u don't have a right to hurt his/her selfrespect whtever jai did must have hurt bani's selfrespect like anything but knowing bani's character i know she will forgive jai😊

bye😊

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