Pratigya shud mind her own B . - Page 4

Created

Last reply

Replies

39

Views

3.4k

Users

17

Likes

123

Frequent Posters

koolsadhu1000 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 14 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: anusarkar

Pratigya was right in interfering. As a matter of fact it is for Pratogya that Kesar has even stood up for herself. How can people praise and take side of the thakur's? Surprising to see opinions that Kesar never wanted a child. She has been a battered woman for heaven sake. No wonder the serial has performed purely. Instead of supporting women pplhere support the evil shakers and bash the protagonist.

anu it is not as simplistic as that ..............that people like me SUPPORT the evil shakers and BASH the protagonist . I dislike Shakti and also SAjjan ....I have made that clear in the post .Before jumping to conclusions this way about all people , UNDERSTAND the post in the proper perspective is my request . Firstly there is no hard and fast rule that ALL must LOVE the protagonist especially when she acts pretty hypocritically 70% of the time . Also the 'EVIL" side as u put , have shades of grey and r human beings with their own stories . We find that interesting . For instance Sajjan is an autocrat but loves his children deeply . Amma is bad to the world but a devoted wife and mother . Shakti is a monster but what he told Krishna ....that he worked his butt off to slog for sajjan while Krishna only disgustingly sits and eats is very TRUE ........Shakti has till now been the more responsible son in an ironical way . And hence in the discussion these human viewpoints r discussed .......this does not mean WE R ON THE SIDE OF THE EVIL CHARACTERS . Ur not understanding the post in proper perspective at all .

I differ with u that bcoz of Pratigya Kesar has learnt to stand for HERSELF and that Pratigya has done a lot for Kesar . What has she done except give speeches that NEVER changed the Thakurs ? Has Pratigya realised after her one year stay that her speeches don't have the SLIGHTEST effect on the Thakurs .......that they r exactly how they were before ? So why does she even BOTHER with the speeches ? Can't she cut them out ? Kuch farak padta hai kya kisi mein uske bhashanbaazi se ?
Pratigya influenced Kesar to register police complaint during her miscarraige and then brought Kesar back to the same house to share room with the same monster . See that scene and see her stupid heroic slow walk with Kesar . Why did Pratigya not take Kesar to social services or an NGO ? This was her solution ...........taking her to the same Rakshas ? Then why that stupid police complaint , Pratigya had hopes that the Rakshas wud suddenly change after one complaint and treat Kesar like a queen or he wud be so furious that he wud bid his time and KILL her perhaps ? Did she THINK ?Is this ENABLING Kesar or ENDANGERING Kesar ?
In the ARUSHI fiasco , Pratigya WENT with Arushi to her room ! She took SLAPS from Arushi , Washed Arushi's clothes , and did hundreds of stupid dramas to gain Arushi's LOVE............not once did I see her give Arushi a big public speech in front of ALL and slapping HER for a change asking HOW THE HELL DID SHE TAKE AWAY KESAR"S RIGHT and THAT I WILL HAND U TO POLICE FOR KESAR"S SAKE ? She was more focussed on Arushi escaping with VIRGINITY INTACT and Her hypocritical attitude in THE END was Shakti is KESAR"S husband ! Let KESAR have Shakti ..........So she wanted HER SISTER to escape the monster but KESAR was welcome to the monster ?
When the Thakurs were trying for Shakti's second marraige Pratigya's stand was Shakti shud not marry coz HE IS KESAR"S HUSBAND . Why did Pratigya want Shakti as Kesar's husband if she was facing domestic abuse ? Any answer to THAT ? Her stand shud have been .........Shakti shud not marry a second girl and make her life miserable and even Kesar , if she wishes , shud divorce him . Has she taken this stand ?
So , ina nutshell , what has Pratigya done for Kesar ? Nothing . I am not talking of the saving of Kesar's life here .........I am talking in CONCRETE terms .
And what CAN Pratigya do anyway .....she who herself is dependent on Sajjan Singh and freeloading off him ......what will SHE help Kesar ? To help someone u gotta be economically independent and have CONTACTS . She is neither economically independent YET , neither does she have any contacts except MUMFORDGUNJ .
I find her backsassing Sajjan Singh hypocritical too . If he is so bad , why eat his salt ? Go to ur parents and eat there ! R u obliging them with ur hallowed presence and sanctifying them by eating their PAAP KI KAMAAI ? Even more bad r the people who consciously eat off the kamaai of sinners and give them phokat ka lectures . If she cud walk off after a slap for a much lesser issue , why not go now for this MORE important issue ...........this is an issue of self respect . Give Krishna ULTIMATUM ..........I will not come back till u earn enough for both of us .........whether I work with my education or not is a seperate issue . First U LIFT UR LAZY BUTT and work .Then I will come back and be ur wife . Why isnt she doing this ?
Sorry Anu , lets differ about this . I read ur post about how CVS dont give solutions to various real problems shown in the show . I liked it and I agree with most points. But I don't agree when u think that Pratigya helped Kesar's cause . Even today ...........this selling mangalsutra is right coz its her STRI DHAN is a stupid gimmick by CVS to give out message and making public aware of Woman's right over STRI DHAN . Indeed Women have right over STRI DHAN , but this isn't accomplishing ANYTHING . If Kesar doesn't want to be Shakti's wife why is she living there ?The proper way to do this is ny living seperately and divorcing him legally . Kesar HERSELF accepted that this is NOT possible . Then why all this speaking up and invading conversations ? Kuch POINT hai kya ? Didn't see Kesar taking Pratigya into confidence and telling her she is going to sell Mangalsutra and abort child either . Let her decide with her in laws then ...........Pratigya shud butt out and focus on her own issues .
.
-Sheena- thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 14 years ago
#32
My major issue with Pratigya's sermons are that she speaks at the characters and not to the characters...There is a way to talk and put your point across...She does not speak to her own family this way when they too are no less abusive or narrow minded despite believing to be educated and big scholars....

What did her lectures achieve apart from some social message the CVs wanted to convey...Did it stop Kesar from being under house arrest?????

From this I can only induce is that her lectures are not to the characters but us mortals, the audience whose moral compass need improving...All her lectures are of the same vain, that is standing there and reciting her dialogues without feeling for what is said....

Apart from giving lectures has Pratigya done anything concrete...All the doing is done by the other characters but in the end Pratigya gets the praise and is considered strong...Someone her age does not know everything in life and it would be nice if we see her learn something for a change but alas, it wont happen because strong women according to CVs are not meant to learn but teach about morality...

In real life strong women are doers and not ones who give lectures on morality, IMO



Krinya thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 500 Thumbnail + 8
Posted: 14 years ago
#33
i agree with Kool..Pratigya should let Kesar do all the arguing, fighting etc. and not interfere bec. in the end, therez nothing that she can do...everytime i switch to pratigya i hear her saying "ye theek nahi hai, aisa nahi ho sakta" but nobody pays attention...useless arguments and no solid result ! If Kesar wants to fight against Shakti in her own way, Pratigya should let her do it...let Kesar explain why she sold off the mangalsutra.


shumi. thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 14 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Have always said this but today's episode forces me to say it AGAIN ........Pratigya shud really MIND HER OWN BUSINESS . Its simply AWFUL the way she pokes her nose into things that are NONE of her concern and speaks WAY out of line in a superior preachy tone . Take todays episode...

kool as usual cool post👏 👏 👏...not only today...from the day one poking her nose into the things that are NONE of her concern was her prime job. she can not make a day without it. speaking WAY out of line in a SUOERIOR preachy tone is her sans kaar...that is y i hate that character😡....many times SS told her to shut her mouth😆...it doesn't make any difference for her 😆...amma is right ...she use to call her besharam and masterni.... very true...i love the person who writes dialogues for amma👏
a_uma thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 14 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: starlight123

My major issue with Pratigya's sermons are that she speaks at the characters and not to the characters...There is a way to talk and put your point across...She does not speak to her own family this way when they too are no less abusive or narrow minded despite believing to be educated and big scholars....

What did her lectures achieve apart from some social message the CVs wanted to convey...Did it stop Kesar from being under house arrest?????

From this I can only induce is that her lectures are not to the characters but us mortals, the audience whose moral compass need improving...All her lectures are of the same vain, that is standing there and reciting her dialogues without feeling for what is said....

Apart from giving lectures has Pratigya done anything concrete...All the doing is done by the other characters but in the end Pratigya gets the praise and is considered strong...Someone her age does not know everything in life and it would be nice if we see her learn something for a change but alas, it wont happen because strong women according to CVs are not meant to learn but teach about morality...

In real life strong women are doers and not ones who give lectures on morality, IMO



superb post Kools...gr8 post star.... agree with most of your points....
(ahem, ahem.... I'm going to support Prats here.... no... I'm not feeling feverish....😳 )
Prats means well, she felt that Shakti was insulting Kesar and tried to support Kesar but her "masterni" attitude turned everyone off including the viewers....
earlier K used to tell her than he liked her bhashans but now even he has daymares about her masterni avatar....😆😆
regarding why she never left the thakurs house and lived independently ....I too have wondered about that....but now I have a theory ...remember when she finally told K that she loved him and walked out with her suitcase.... K stopped her at the door and told her to never step out of the threshold .... it is K's words and K himself which is keeping her tied to thakur nivas.... (what say guys?)
Lastly, the CVs 😡 should see a couple of episodes of the new serial "Gulaal" where the female lead deals with the in-laws coolly, calmly and a few well chosen words.... how I wish Prats dialogues were like that....
Edited by a_uma - 14 years ago
suk4 thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail
Posted: 14 years ago
#36
@ a uma
Pratigya and Kesar are never given any sensible dialogue, they only seem to write it all for ss and amma.
Prats is supposed to be the one who steps in to control situations but she ends up getting a mouthful off amma and looking foolish. the cvs need to liven it up a bit and make her character stronger. kesar is a bit less meek than before but certainly not up to standing up for herself against the thakurs yet, the whole thing's dragging on, we'll have to see if kesar does ever have the courage to grass KN to his family about his other misdeeds and take control of her life.
carisma2 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 365 Thumbnail + 8
Posted: 14 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: a_uma

superb post Kools...gr8 post star.... agree with most of your points....
(ahem, ahem.... I'm going to support Prats here.... no... I'm not feeling feverish....😳 )
Prats means well, she felt that Shakti was insulting Kesar and tried to support Kesar but her "masterni" attitude turned everyone off including the viewers....
earlier K used to tell her than he liked her bhashans but now even he has daymares about her masterni avatar....😆😆
regarding why she never left the thakurs house and lived independently ....I too have wondered about that....but now I have a theory ...remember when she finally told K that she loved him and walked out with her suitcase.... K stopped her at the door and told her to never step out of the threshold .... it is K's words and K himself which is keeping her tied to thakur nivas.... (what say guys?)
Lastly, the CVs 😡 should see a couple of episodes of the new serial "Gulaal" where the female lead deals with the in-laws coolly, calmly and a few well chosen words.... how I wish Prats dialogues were like that....

Great observation and very good solutions Uma.
We all want to see the Pratigya that we saw in the advert... but instead of that we got a crying all day long pratigya instead.... Now we want a ore shrewd and diplomatic Pratigya ... but the CV's are spoing this charcater by turning her into a masterni.
I wish the CV's had sketched this girls character better. Her heart is in the right place - but the way she expresses her self is wrong.
Krinya thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 500 Thumbnail + 8
Posted: 14 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: shumi.

kool as usual cool post👏 👏 👏...not only today...from the day one poking her nose into the things that are NONE of her concern was her prime job. she can not make a day without it. speaking WAY out of line in a SUOERIOR preachy tone is her sans kaar...that is y i hate that character😡....many times SS told her to shut her mouth😆...it doesn't make any difference for her 😆...amma is right ...she use to call her besharam and masterni.... very true...i love the person who writes dialogues for amma👏


yeah ! and what is the outcome of all this? she keeps on repeating "aap aisa nahi kar sakte" and the other person karke bolke sunke kahani khatam bhi kar deta hai ! masterni bas haath mein danda lekar lecture hi deti rehti hai, the ill-mannered students never listen...surprisingly she has no reply to amma's taunts ! 😲

BTW Arushi's matter is settled now? SS doesn't want her back?😕
Edited by _charu_ - 14 years ago
koolsadhu1000 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 14 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: starlight123

My major issue with Pratigya's sermons are that she speaks at the characters and not to the characters...There is a way to talk and put your point across...She does not speak to her own family this way when they too are no less abusive or narrow minded despite believing to be educated and big scholars....

What did her lectures achieve apart from some social message the CVs wanted to convey...Did it stop Kesar from being under house arrest?????

From this I can only induce is that her lectures are not to the characters but us mortals, the audience whose moral compass need improving...All her lectures are of the same vain, that is standing there and reciting her dialogues without feeling for what is said....

Apart from giving lectures has Pratigya done anything concrete...All the doing is done by the other characters but in the end Pratigya gets the praise and is considered strong...Someone her age does not know everything in life and it would be nice if we see her learn something for a change but alas, it wont happen because strong women according to CVs are not meant to learn but teach about morality...

In real life strong women are doers and not ones who give lectures on morality, IMO



The narrow minded SOCH of Shamu and his PARIVAAR [ and that includes Pratigya] IS :
1] Eating Non Veg is PAAP . PUNYA goes . U become a LEPER .
2] Reading PAATHS and doing POOJAS gives PUNYA . Doesn't matter if u treat bahu of house like SERVANT GAL by calling her AIE LADKI .
3] Buying anything NEW or adapting to changes around u is DEVALUING the OLD . Underclothes , Saris , TVS , BARTANS from 30 years ago shud NEVER be thrown .
4] Girls shud be TRADED in marraige to be used as a leverage .
5] They shud then be kept starved for SEX and LOVE till they fall on knees and BEG .
6]Fun shud be made of bahu's illiteracy by talking in English to STRANGERS in front of her .
7] Virginity being INTACT is the best test for a girl's character and a MUST . Doesn't matter if she voluntarily did BIGAMY if she succeeds in keeping herself a VIRGIN .
8] Virginity Intact means wearing SALWAR khameezes . Saris denote VIRGINITY GONE . OOPS . Sorry . Sawlwar Khameezes mean UNMARRIED . Saris mean MARRIED .
9] The way to treat a bahu is by sending her to her room ALL day for voicing even an opinion by chastising her . The living room is the MARKED territory of the SASURAL GANG .
10] Voluntarily going to jails for crimes u didnt commit is a NOBLE ACT . So what if Daughter's Marital life gets screwed up . The Sacrificial HIGH is what is important .
11] Beta shud NEVER grow up after marraige .He shud go out with Daddy , come home with Daddy and eat only and only Mommy's food . Thats his marraige for u .
lilindiangurl13 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 14 years ago
#40
Guys please stop with all this bashing of characters.... just discuss it peacefully...
TOPIC CLOSED...

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".