Criticizing Ichha and Veer

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I just entered in the forum...and found my spoof corner closed 😭 😭...

With due respect to Mod's decisions I want to be able to criticize the characters I don't like without being accused of instigation. I don't find their characterization good, and I want to be able to freely express it. And when I am talking about Veer Ichha--its not a relative comparison with Tapasya...in absolute terms it refers to Veer and Ichha only...... I like Tapasya only because of the way it is being portrayed by Rashmi--and it has nothing to with my dislike for characterization of Veer and Ichha.......and I am not here to win or lose wars....or get any false sense of achievement out of internet wars.....I have opinions, which I am sorry might differ from majority.....but I want to express them.

okay....my points why I do not like Ichha:

1) It glorifies servile attitude as sacrificing

2) Dangerously bad decision making and lack of wisdom, glorified as simplicity

3) Showed signs of ambition initially as child, the character lacks ambition completely now

4) Does not stand on her ground for long (even if feelings for Veer had starting resurfacing, any wise woman would have waited for atleast a while, to let the ashes from past settle down.....immediately jumping from one marriage to another, being at one or the other extreme edge, how much ever is celebrated here, to me shows lack of patience, maturity and emotional stability.)

5) I do not like Tina's screen presence and dialogue delivery

Why I don't like Veer:

1) He seems to have completely followed Ichha''s character......if he had not wanted Tapasya...he should have never brought her back (even for his brother's sake)........if he brought her back, he should have given her the place of wife..... .......you don't get into games with people.......its not a game of "ghar ghar"......ya to shaadi hoti hai ya nahi hoti hai- and when there is no marriage...you don't bring that woman into your house UNDER ANY PRETEXT and it is emotionally abusive.

NOTE: I am writing on this forum to express my opinions and I am not interested in instigating 10-15 people here.....my post is not meant for them but for speaking out my mind to 100s of silent readers who visit here....! So humble request to active members..please don't get instigated as I have no intention to dishonor your ideas, I am only expressing mine.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: hima_123

I just entered in the forum...and found my spoof corner closed 😭 😭...

With due respect to Mod's decisions I want to be able to criticize the characters I don't like without being accused of instigation. I don't find their characterization good, and I want to be able to freely express it. And when I am talking about Veer Ichha--its not a relative comparison with Tapasya...in absolute terms it refers to Veer and Ichha only...... I like Tapasya only because of the way it is being portrayed by Rashmi--and it has nothing to with my dislike for characterization of Veer and Ichha.......and I am not here to win or lose wars....or get any false sense of achievement out of internet wars.....I have opinions, which I am sorry might differ from majority.....but I want to express them.

okay....my points why I do not like Ichha:

1) It glorifies servile attitude as sacrificing

2) Dangerously bad decision making and lack of wisdom, glorified as simplicity

3) Showed signs of ambition initially as child, the character lacks ambition completely now

4) Does not stand on her ground for long (even if feelings for Veer had starting resurfacing, any wise woman would have waited for atleast a while, to let the ashes from past settle down.....immediately jumping from one marriage to another, being at one or the other extreme edge, how much ever is celebrated here, to me shows lack of patience, maturity and emotional stability.)

5) I do not like Tina's screen presence and dialogue delivery

Why I don't like Veer:

1) He seems to have completely followed Ichha''s character......if he had not wanted Tapasya...he should have never brought her back (even for his brother's sake)........if he brought her back, he should have given her the place of wife..... .......you don't get into games with people.......its not a game of "ghar ghar"......ya to shaadi hoti hai ya nahi hoti hai- and when there is no marriage...you don't bring that woman into your house UNDER ANY PRETEXT and it is emotionally abusive.

NOTE: I am writing on this forum to express my opinions and I am not interested in instigating 10-15 people here.....my post is not meant for them but for speaking out my mind to 100s of silent readers who visit here....! So humble request to active members..please don't get instigated as I have no intention to dishonor your ideas, I am only expressing mine.




Good post, I don't agree with your comments on Veer, he was kind of pushed into it....but yes, I do agree somewhat on Iccha....seems she is suffering from an inferiority complex...such people seemingly look like sacrificial but actually lack self-esteem ...:) sorry no offense meant to anyone.
Edited by vijayam - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i hate icha so much that, will agree with anything bad that u have to say about her ..... agree with u about veer as well, he was forced to marry tapu but instead of leaving her, he used her to keep his brother happy .....

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: trupat

i hate icha so much that, will agree with anything bad that u have to say about her ..... agree with u about veer as well, he was forced to marry tapu but instead of leaving her, he used her to keep his brother happy .....



Oh my dears when something completely non prejudiced comes out of my mouth nobody believes me but my dear hima and Tanya THANK YOU for voicing the one frustration I have long felt with Veer...my thoughts on Ichha and my disgust at her quickie marriage, paltan feelings and lack of self respect are well known but are again highlighted perfectly by the both of you👏 but this is the one thing so far I wasnt able to get across...the reason why I have no respect left for Veer...absolutely disgusted for the simple fact that ur right Hima...once he brought Tapu back he had a moral obligation to give her the place of his wife and not keep her as some bug he was forced to live with and use her as a diversion for his brother to safeguard Ichha's marriage...and the worst bit is he doesnt realise the fact that whilst Tapu has done some pretty bad things...she is after all human with human feelings and the entire time would have been feeling as stuck and lonely in that marriage as he did. But of course he never considered her feelings before using her and that is what makes me resent him now cos I bet he STILL wont feel the slightest consideration for pain she is going through now! I remember soo many moments where I tried to cry out and say...at least think of her as a human Veer! And until he doesnt realise this...I cannot like or respect him any longer.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well done Veer👍🏼, hats off 2 u for the brilliant game plan 🤗...for a Tapasya who lacks morals and human values and who has used and abused every known human relation n it serves her right...I am so pleased UR a hero ❤️ u. .muaaahhh☺️
rest..🥱🥱🥱
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Veer the best character in the serial at present... he took the right decision n at the right time.👏👏👏👏👏.. great to see him finally out of the torture he was in ... n now so happy to be married to Ichcha his only love... 😳
love you veer for finally deciding enough of taking everyone's nonsense n doing what ur heart desired... May you have a long n happy married life with Ichcha...😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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after watching the new promo
i became a hard core fan of veer
he is asking ichaa
will u marry me right now here in this mandir
ichaa was in shocked state
but she agreed
i love u veer for taking this adventourous decision
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks all for your comments....but this thread is for those who do not approve of Veer and Ichha's characterization....and I think I have made it clear in the title ....those who want to praise them can kindly do so in other threads meant for appreciation !!😆....Kindly do not "instigate" 😉 😆.....!!
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Edited by hima_123 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: neenu55

after watching the new promo

i became a hard core fan of veer
he is asking ichaa
will u marry me right now here in this mandir
ichaa was in shocked state
but she agreed
i love u veer for taking this adventourous decision


wowwww, I would like 2 watch tht scene😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Tq u Ichcha for showing us the true romantic and adventurous side of Veer...we love U ...🤗.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivani109


wowwww, I would like 2 watch tht scene😍
Tq u Ichcha for showing us the true romantic and adventurous side of Veer...we love U ...🤗.



thanks for your comments....but I thought you liked to stay in threads of your near and dear ones (in your own words) only...😆 😆 ..ye strangers ke discussion mei aap kaise..😆!!
Edited by hima_123 - 14 years ago

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