Kabir's Character need to be given a thought. - Page 2

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think the worst that can happen is, Kabir will hesitate to trust Jyoti, and that will break her heart, he will not kick her out but she will decide to leave him and he won't stop her, she will go back to her maayka and resume her crying episodes..........After a while he will get to know the real truth about everyone at Sasodia (which he already sort knows) and come back to Jyoti...just a thought...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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In both cases it was Jyoti's fault, she didn't confide Pankaj, she didn't confide Kabir either!
Each proving harmful for her and useful for CM and Brij in former case and CS and Vikrant in latter.
I had tried explaining this many times but was unable since most Jyotir fans considered it anti-Jyotir, but it isn't anti-Jyotir, I am just trying to explain things from Pankaj's perspective that his turning psycho was justified in a way.

See, before marrying Jyoti, Pankaj tried to ensure this many-a-times that is his handicap coming in way of Jyoti's decision?Even when Brij began creating problems for Jyoti, a major part included making Pankaj realise that Jyoti had all chances of preferring Brij over him due to his blindness. Jyoti, in a way did not want to bother him since she didn't consider him able enough to take the burden of her stress.
After realising the truth, he did repent on not trusting Jyoti, but the part where he got ultra-desperate to get his child had two major reasons. One, he was slowly and steadily realising Jyotir's growing chemistry and closeness and the way he had behaved in past, he didn't have much hope of getting Jyoti back, and second, almost all had abandoned him and he knew of Neelam's infidelity, so he was kinda affirmed in leaving her, and he had even begun to hate CM so the kid appeared his last and only hope and this led to his sheer desperation to get it back.


I wouldn't be surprised if Kabir behaves in a similar way. Jyoti didn't take him into confidence either. Pankaj came into her life when she was frustrated with her life, her family and Brij, and made her want to live life again. She could've easily told him about Brij before or after marriage.
And Kabir came into her life when she was frustrated with Pankaj, his family and Brij again. Yes I know, Kabir knew all about Pankaj and her pregnancy, But Jyoti didn't tell him, it happened by chance.
Like Pankaj, Kabir told her time and again that he'll be there for her everytime, but I just don't get her monopolistic attitude of trying to handle everything herself and only move on to revealing the truth when things go completely beserk and out of her hand.
Wouldn't blame Kabir now if he becomes Pankaj part 2.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nikkie, I think you bring up a good point, but Pankaj did not even give Jyoti one chance to say the truth. He believed an outsider (Brij) over his own wife. Kabir on the other hand is not too trusting to Jyoti because he does not want to doubt his brother. He did believe Jyoti at first though, but Rashmi messed things up by lying! I agree that Jyoti was at fault both times though for not trusting Pankaj or Kabir from the beginning. Husband and wife should always tell each other everything.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tulipbaby53

Nikkie, I think you bring up a good point, but Pankaj did not even give Jyoti one chance to say the truth. He believed an outsider (Brij) over his own wife. Kabir on the other hand is not too trusting to Jyoti because he does not want to doubt his brother. He did believe Jyoti at first though, but Rashmi messed things up by lying! I agree that Jyoti was at fault both times though for not trusting Pankaj or Kabir from the beginning. Husband and wife should always tell each other everything.



I agree, Kabir is more understanding than Pankaj, Pankaj had become frustrated and insecure and Kabir STILL has a more refined thinking.
But all this is useless since Jyoti was hell bent in repeating her mistakes again, she didn't realised that her lack of confidence in her husband had led to destruction of a beautiful relationship in past.
She still thinks she's right and will 100% resume with her bhashans, now for Kabir, on not trustin his wife etc etc.... like she did for Pankaj

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I also agree that Jyoti needs to learn how to confide in her husband and not repeat the past mistakes. However, this time around she tells kabir everything, she told him about Asha's condition right away as soon as he returned, she shared her worries for reshmi with him from the beginning, and kabir was the first person she wanted to call when she found out Vikrant was Reshmi's husband, her fault in this was to not listen when Reshmi threatened to kill herself and the baby.
I disagree that her relationship with pankaj was beautiful, he was more dependent on her....he was never confident enough in the first place and would side with Choti ma most of the time......I know that she made a mistake in hiding things from him and kept him in the dark for a year and maybe she would have been with him by now had she not listened to kaplana.....but she did confess at the end and pankaj's anger was very justifiable at that moment, the least he could do was give her a chance to explain instead of listening to Brij and throwing her out and abusing her in every possible way after that...how could you do that to someone you shared a life for a year. Also, remember how he believed Brij's words when Brij confessed and cleared everything about jyoti...Pankaj never had a mind of his own and would only trust what others told him, we all know what has become of Pankaj after that....

I think kabir is at crossroads here, remember how he sided her when she told everyone about Vikrant's truth, but Reshmi messed that up for her, also he believes his brother is bit of a saint and it was hard for him to accept the accusations made against him. All and all, I think kabir's anger at Jyoti is justified at the moment but let's see how events unfold from here.

I did watch the last episode one more time, I think we can guess what will happen next from Kabir's expressions'you can tell the feeling of disgust when Chachisa accused Jyoti of bribing the police and Reshmi, I think he would side Jyoti'.lets' watch and see.

Edited by MudPud - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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the biggest difference btwn kabir and pankaj is tht kabir thinks for himself..pankaj blindly (pun not intended) believes what any fricking person tells him..CM said sumthng,he agrees,brij who he knew for like a couple weeks tells him his wife is cheating on him,he believes...thn the same guy comes tells him she is NOT cheating on him,he again believes...i mean,come on...
kabir on the other hand knows jyoti..and trusts his own judgement..he knows she has the pathological need of wanting to sort everything out on her own and he respects tht till an extent..and jyoti knows she can count on him too..which is y she does confide in him lot more thn she did wid pankaj..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: anu rulz

the biggest difference btwn kabir and pankaj is tht kabir thinks for himself..pankaj blindly (pun not intended) believes what any fricking person tells him..CM said sumthng,he agrees,brij who he knew for like a couple weeks tells him his wife is cheating on him,he believes...thn the same guy comes tells him she is NOT cheating on him,he again believes...i mean,come on...

kabir on the other hand knows jyoti..and trusts his own judgement..he knows she has the pathological need of wanting to sort everything out on her own and he respects tht till an extent..and jyoti knows she can count on him too..which is y she does confide in him lot more thn she did wid pankaj..



Pathological need???
🤣🤣🤣
Well said yaar, she actually has it, courtesy Padma who put all the family problems on her shoulders too early,
Difficult, or rather impossible to cure now 😆

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