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Gagori Chatterjee

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Before starting with my Analysis ...I would just like to say that till now CVs r maintaining a very consistent graph with the overall love story of Maan and Geet...

Let me just rewind the journey of Maan-Geet here...

When Kurban hua moment happened...Maan and Geet both were only feeling attraction and nothing else..

When Hum tum moment happened ...they both were feeling a certain desire to b close to each other..

When Rain moment outside Dhaba happened...Maan finally confessed that he is changing while Geet was trying to overcome the pain of her past...

In these early phases none of them realised they r in love...😊

Then comes the cruicial moment where Geet decides to quit the job...Maan is shown holding that garland and is hving moist eyes..he starts imagining Geet everywhere in office..he finally starts realises that he has feelings for Geet😳

Then comes Dargah moment where Geet realises she too has feelings for Maan..

Both r still in denial becuase of thier past experiences..

In this above phase only realisation comes in😳

Then comes JA-Moment where Geet for the first time feels the sexual tention😉...Maan notices the same and decides to find out if she too is feeling the same like him..😳

Then comes Pari ...Maan uses this opportunity to make sure if Geet is hving any feelings for him or not..😉

During this process Maan too Accepts that he would love to loose in this game of love and gives in to his feelings..😳while Geet too Accepts that she is indeed feeling insecure seeing Maan with another girl

In this above phase both accept to their ownselves about their feelings for each other😳

Then comes the disco moment where even Geet gives her feelings out by hugging Maan😳..but again goes in denial mode because of her past issues.. From here on Maan keeps waiting for Geet's confession because he is already sure of his feelings now😃...

Then comes HP-Track where Geet decides to wipe off the scars of her past and accept Maan as the new man in her life...Maan too gives her assurity of lifelong protection to her and tells her she is special😳

Now back to Delhi where Geet wants to find out in what way she is special for Maan..just as a friend or more than a friend and whether he considers her as his parineeta or not..

In this above phase both r sure of their feelings but in dilemma how to do the final confession😳

Ok now heres my Episode Analysis😆

I hv always loved it when the show starts with a proper continuation from the previous episode and today it does with Geet in the morning getting the flashes of last night👍🏼..so a bonus point here from me😆😛;Geet like a typical wife getting worried about MSK's well-being was a good consistency shown from the continuation POV👏..

Next scene where Geet rushes to the office and barges inside the conference hall to check whether Maan is fine or not without thinking twice that he is holding a meeting there with his employees shows their growing equation here👍🏼;Geet in front of entire office staff shows her full authority on Maan like a typical wife asking him whether he has taken first-aid or not and Maan too like a loving husband replies to her without getting irritated or embarassed the way Geet enters the conference hall😳;Few months back,I don't think Geet would hv had the guts to barge into the conference hall and talk to Maan this way and even if she had done this,then Maan would hv definitely blasted her😆 but here instead he asks the employess to go for lunch so that he can hv a private talk with Geet😲....now if this is not growth in a relationship..then what is it ??😳;Maan has started enjoying Geet's company now and doesn't feel embarassed to show Geet's importance in his life in front of his employees😳...Geet too is no more afraid to show her authority on her so called fake fiance in front of all the employees😉...So in short they hv reached that comfort zone where they don't even mind doing public display of their affection😉😆...

Now the most sensational stripping scene of today🤣☺️...Well we can see Maan was not just stripping there shamelessly in front of Geet but was also secretly checking out her reaction with that wicked smile of his😉😳;Now I found something very symbolic here...Today Maan is ready to submit himself fully to Geet without any reservations😳..tomorrow mayb a day will come when Geet will b ready to submit herself fully to Maan in simialr manner..that will b the real parineeta moment ☺️...The scene was very unique and something which I hv not seen between the lovers in any other show👏...the way these two r showing their authority over each other even without a proper confession..thats the kind of strong unspoken bond that these two share😳😳...

Sometimes I feel CVs goof up a bit to please both classes and masses and then come out with OTT scenes like Geet wondering why Tasha din't react seeing her in that condition😕;So does that mean Geet wanted Tasha and other office employees to come and humiliate her kya ??😕;Sorry that scene was not reqd👎🏼 ;The next scene where Adi+Pinky shows their reservations talking to Geet because she is MSK's fiance was a good one and even in real life,your friends start drawing lines when u become bigger than them😊

Geet coming to MSK's cabin and complaining to MSK about losing her two best friends because of this fake engagement fiasco was a very cute scene and looked as if a wife is complaining to her hubby with full authority again without any discomfort😳;Even loved the way Maan was patiently hearing all her complaints like a loyal hubby and in the end says "I m there with u na"😳..for me it was the best dialogue of the day👍🏼;Maan was indicating to Geet that she should never feel alone as he is always there with her in every walks of life as a true friend ...as a guide...and as a lifepartner too😳;Geet was busy with her own complaints,so she was not able to understand the importance of that sentence,but Maan knew exactly what he said😳...

Maan arranging a new dress for his lady-love...aah perect gesture by a lover👍🏼;Here the whole idea of showing Maan selecting the green dress for Geet sinse he remembers the first day Geet was wearing a green dress when she came to his office was a good thought-out scene by the CVs again and it also shows how Maan's memory is rock-solid when it comes to Geet😉😛;And now Maan is also ready to make choices in her life now...he wants to stamp his authority over her life now with his love and passionate dedication😳😳😳;The way Maan pulls her towards him so passionately and tells her that "first day also u were trying to go away from me"...actually meant that earlier he might hv allowed her to walk out on him but now he is not going to do that because both his mind and heart hv reached to a certain concensus now where he is sure that Geet is only his future😳;So whether Geet wants it or not,Maan will show his full passionate force on her and we can again see the return of sexual tension in this particular scene😉😳;The whole scene was executed well with some brilliant acting by GC and DD👏 but still the scene was ruined because of that gree dress which was bad to say the least👎🏼;Geet's regular dresses r better than that christmas tree style dress😳;Plsss CVs make sure not to repeat this mistake again because on screen it looks as if Maan is hving such poor taste when in reality its the costume designer who is at fault here

Now comes the most controvertial scene of today's episode..Geet's self-talk in front of the mirror and her questions regarding whether she is really special for Maan or whether Maan too nurtures similar feelings for her or not😳;We had very extreme opinions on this issue..some loved it..some thought Geet is dumb and silly..some hated it..some thought there is inconsistency in Geet's character and some were hanging in between😆😳

So heres my own opinion on this particular scene about Geet's self-talk😳

I feel Geet is 100% right with her questoning here...👍🏼..here r my points..why...

Tell me something when did Maan confess that he wants to marry her ? ..or he wants to make her his lifepartner ??...thats why even in my yesterday's analysis I clearly mentioned it was a PARTIAL Confession from Maan..the real confession has not happened and Geet being a 18yr old girl hving seen so much trauma and pain in life cannot understand those hidden meanings of Maan's partial confession like we do😃..So if she is still in questioning and confused mode ..its completely understandable😳
Till now Maan's confession has always been on the lines of supporting her forever...or giving her the security in his arms forever...or protecting her forever....Geet thinks of Maan as a God now...but Geet needs to know whether the God himself wants to give that exclusive place to her in his life or not...Geet knows Maan has a soft corner for her in his heart..Geet also knows that Maan is always there to protect her or stand besides her in times of crisis...But Geet doesn't know whether Maan is ready to accept her as his Parineeta or not😳...so thats the answer which she wants to find out from Maan...she is completely justified in her thought process here😳
One more thing its just not the 18yr old Factor...its her past which is doing the damage when it comes to trusting someone...remember the number of promises Dev did to her ??...what is the guarantee Maan will not back out in the last minute once he finds out the truth about her past ??...So before commiting to Maan..she needs to b sure that Maan is not protecting her or giving those senti dialogues to her out of sympathy but he is doing all that because he loves her truely😳 ...Geet's past is stopping her from reaching to a conclusion regarding Maan...
Another reason is that she wants to test whether she is really special for him or not out of Fun😉...when u r in love..u always want your lover to pamper u😉😛...Geet is in that masti mode now..she wants to see if Maan really goes to an extent of making her feel extra spl😛...its just the wish of a 18yr old girl who has started living again and wants to experience the fairy tale world which every girl in her age does😳..
And lets not forget Maan did run after Pari and that time Geet din't realise he was doing all that to make her jealous because she thought Maan likes fast modern girls which Maan himself told her😉..and then next day Maan says he was drunk..so he doesn't remember anything...😉...So in a way Maan has been giving her mixed signals😆... And in HP marriage..Geet remembered about her marriage with Dev😭..so at cruicial points her past marriage does haunt her and of course the baby in her womb is another issue..she needs to b sure that Maan will accept the child as well...so there r many factors involved in Geet's case before she is fully ready for a commitment ..and thats why those questions r justified...👍🏼
Also we even trust our best friend...we even trust our Guru and start worshipping him..but here Geet is thinking from a different POV..She is thinking will Maan accept a girl like her as his lifepartner...does he see me from that angle or not😳..That disco night when Maan was about to confess and Geet stopped him...she got a doubt that Maan has feelings for her but next morning Maan said he was drunk ,so he blabbered nonsense😆...then yesterday in HP he said "I m used to your presence now...I will always protect you..come lets go home"...even a true friend will say that...right ??😉...So in short she wants to know in what way she is special for Maan..whether a friend or a guide or a lover😳.

Still I feel this scene of Geet's self-talk in front of the mirror could hv been done in a more subtle manner by giving her some better dialogues mayb ..but I feel the scene is incomplete and we will get a clearer picture mayb on monday🤔..

About the precap and Promo...I will not say anything now...will just wish CVs handle this pregnency climax in a sensible manner because this can make or break the show depending on the execution😊

My Rating:8.5/10..Sinse I had no complaints about Geet's self-talk and also I loved other scenes like the stripping one or Maan saying "I m there for u"😳...So a high rating from me😊...The things which I din't like today was Geet's green dress,Geet thinking why Tasha is not reacting😕 and some editing issues again(hope CVs get their acts right here)

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"The Moment - Maan's Parineeta Geet" - Part X – An Ode to Solicitude

Yelloooo all my Friends, Devils, CVs, Star and Nissar. Finally you all can see my analysis here. Whoa. What was the episode today??? Can you imagine Nissar the last 3:30 mins of the episode made us go berserk and debate for more than 5 hrs? Just tell somebody to visit Devil's Den at I-F and check what all brainstorms we did there. Still we didn't come to a conclusion. Me and Jyo were at loggerheads today. Duh. Because of this I missed the first 20 mins. Of the episode. All credit goes to you Nissar and your pathetic dialogue writer Barry Dhillon and your CVs for a poor scene sketch.

I remember last Friday I think on 27th Aug., I blasted you all on Continuation. So, I was happy to see in today's epi that you have you understood some points of mine. But tell me one thing did you really understand the entire crux of what is Continuation is all about??? Continuation means not only maintenance of scenes but it also means the extension and maintenance of the behavior and attitude of the characters. It also means to carry out the continuation of the characters the entire episode. There you go. Now did you realize because of your pathetic Geet's Mirror self clarification scene sketch we had wasted more than 5 hrs. in debating and on the consequence of that I am super duper late in posting this analysis. Whenever I tell you to do something you understand but you never do the analysis. Do you??? I also feel that Geet is 18 yrs old hence she will behave in a childish manner while doing the self clarification round about Maan's love but in such a blunderous way??? I will talk about this in detail later in the analysis.

Before I start today's epi just want to talk to the Makeup Artist. Just my message to him that I loved Geet's new hairdo. I don't know about others but I loved it. Though I like her original curly style which is very urbane then still I liked the new toupee.

Now, where is the Costume Designer??? So, whose choice was Geet's green colored dress??? I hope not yours Nissar??? What a PATHETIC DRESS??? Please don't tell me it's your choice. It's YUCK. It's looking like she is going for a WWF game. And to top it all Maan was appreciating this attire of Geet??? Maan has lost all his taste I suppose. I pity all his fans here.

Shall we start with the episode??? The beginning was good. Blooper was there about Geet's hair but then it's "Cinematic Liberty". I wonder every time when there is blooper I always give you guys the BOD by mentioning "Cinematic Liberty" but till how long??? I think you should take note of all the pointers and learn also. I just cannot spoon feed you guys all the time. I think bloopers don't come under "Cinematic Liberty" so its need to be corrected. Next time be careful. Well I know Nissar you know where I am coming from. Yes and you have point. I should not compare Geet with House or 24. Believe me I am not comparing Geet with any American Series and also not even Indian Series. I don't watch any other Indian series other than Geet and I have never done Critical Analysis for any other Indian Serial. Geet is my first Indian Serial that I am watching on a daily basis and got myself involved. So whatever I see in Geet I analyze the way it should have been done, No comparison at all. Hence, take care of the bloopers and also the various camera angles. Like where Maan was folding the blood stained dupatta of Geet there were two camera angles and the difference were very much visible. Now don't say that these things happen but you need to understand that to prosper you need to take into consideration all the small details. Otherwise you will be doing the same thing throughout your entire life. Every day I will not talk about these details but whenever I do you should take a note of all these. Today you may feel I am blabbering some unnecessary things but tomorrow you never know what is in store for you.

Let us come to the titile:- "The Moment - Maan's Parineeta Geet" - An Ode to Solicitude

So the episode started with Geet remembering the last day's events. Good. Now, Nissar, did you realize that what mistake you did on 27th Aug episode??? I hope you do. This was the continuation on character growth. Yeah in real life too we do recollect some moments that need attention. The best part of the continuation of the character growth was the equation between Maan and Geet in the office. Thank God at least you have paid heed here. The equation between the love birds were perfect here. It showed that over the time in this phase of love they have grown on the comfortableness within themselves. This character growth was missing last Friday after the passion filled episode of fake engagement. Today it showed the continuation and I have really loved it. The worry for Maan and the way Maan handled the staff in the conference hall after Geet barged was really commendable. After Thursday's episode at HP the confidence on Geet to show the authority on Maan is very much justifiable. If she had not been shown then the after effect of HP track would have been a fiasco. That is why I always mentioned the after effect of the event in the characters is always necessary. Now, after the office scene it was so justifiable why Geet will behave in such a manner and why even Maan will tolerate such barge in from Geet. Great Job here Nissar. Thanks again for listening and understanding.

Oh yeah Sandipa was asking me about whether Maan's folding hands in the conference hall meant something as if he is hiding something. I would say No. that showed how Maan was comfortable around Geet. His body language didn't mean any sort of reverse reaction. But he showed as if he was enjoying talking with her and a very sit back relax attitude. Like love birds do; let the lady do all the talking and the man will only listen. Wow. I love that.

Now I liked how Geet was concerned for Maan but her running away to Maan's office was way too filmy but I guess somewhere we are also in need of watching certain bogus illogical scenes. Like I always say we live in the real world most of the time but we also need to live in the fantasy world for some time too. Hence, though that scene was filmy but still I liked it. It showed the concern, solicitude, worry and love though it was unspoken but definitely it was there. I loved the fact that Maan never misses a single opportunity to find out what going on in Geet's mind. Didn't I tell you??? I love this persuasive attitude in Men. Never give up attitude. I just love it.

The office scene was ok. The position Geet is in and the intellectuality that a 18 year old should carry I justify her action. She definitely was dumbfounded when she learnt that her only 2 friends have decided to stay away from her due to Maan. Yeah as much as you need to spend time you're your love interest you need to also spend time with your friends also. That is very necessary otherwise you tend to feel suffocated in a relationship. You can't always have sweet dishes; you need savory dishes also.

The sweet confrontation was good in Maan's office where she started blaming him on disclosing the Fiance thing. And to an extent she is very logical as in her mind it's fake and Maan has not cleared yet that it's real for him. Yup now youall will say then what was at HP on Thursday's episode??? Well that was a partial confession even a friend can say that. And whatever Maan said according to him was true to the "T". But think again from Geet's perspective. Her mind is already blocked with her past trauma. One part of her brain had already stopped thinking but after Thursday's episode that closed windows of her brain was opened. Now it will take some time for her brain to get adjusted to this new ray of light. For example, when a blind person gets operated then the doctors' after opening the bandage immediately don't tell the patient to open his her eyes rather say to open it slowly. Right. Why??? It's because the eyes of should gradually get adjusted to the new environment. Same way the closed windows of Geet's heart just opened on Thursday. So, will we can expect that immediately she will feel everything.

Similarly the moment Maan will pour out his heart Geet will also be very comfortable people in the office giving her the royal treatment. Hence this scene was justifiable.

Maan gifting the dress was a nice thought. He loves her after all. That much he anyway can do. As far as the sweet moment they had together shows their closeness and also the worry and anxiety that Maan shown on Geet. Loved the hubby–wifey fight though. It was too good and they really looked like friends more here rather than love birds.

As I said earlier that:-

"All love that has not friendship for its base is like a mansion built upon the sand." - Ella Wheeler Wilcox

Hence this friendship is very necessary in future when the truth will be out. Because more than love it is the friend will be in demand that time. Sometimes you cannot share certain things with your spouse or the spouse will not understand certain things but a friend can. But my only argument was that the friendship was not brought up at the right moment. I mean to say long back there was an opportunity in their relationship to be friends. But it should not have been brought up on Wednesday. Anyway, that scene is over now. But I know that purpose was different and I accept it Nissar.

Some steps ahead in Parineeta Metaphor:-

We have completed certain part of both the 5tha nd 6th Vachan in our Parineeta Metaphor Theory. Right Nissar???

Here goes the Vachans again:-

5th Vachan
In the Fifth Vachan , the couple pray to almighty to bless his kindness for all the living things of this universe. They pray for the happiness and well being of each others relatives and friends. Fifth Vachan denotes the bride's and bridegroom's concern with each other's family members and relatives. It also signifies their moral responsibilities towards the charities and universe welfare. Another importance of fifth Vachan is that they pray for a noble breed.

6th Vachan
By performing Sixth Vachan couple implore for a long and happy life. They pray to almighty to extend his blessings for a long lived togetherness. They wish to enjoy endless plentiful seasons with each other. Sixth Vachan is completely related to the long, joyous life and togetherness.

Well let us come to the 5th Vachan here:-

When Maan folded the blood stained dupatta in the conference room he actually was covering her past and preserving her honor there. He was trying keep her past stay away from her and wanted to make sure that it doesn't bother her anymore. That is why he also gifted a dress to her. First I thought it was the color of mehndi but then I realized it just a green color. So, Mehndi thought went out of my mind who would have been a symbolism of 6th Vachan.

Now let us see the 6th Vachan. Yeah many thought that Maan opening the shirt and showing his cut to Geet was just to raise the TRP and please the masses. Hmmm. Actually they did kill 2 birds in one stone here. Masses got pleased because they could see what they wanted and the class got their own theory a step ahead. Maan's opening of the shirt was a step completion of 6th Vachan of submitting oneself to the other without any reservation and hesitation. Maan was not even hesitated to open his shirt infront of Geet as he has already accepted her as his own. The true "Parineeta" moment will come when Geet will submit herself to Maan and they both will be untied in the Holy Matrimony of Souls.

It was an auspicious moment for the two love birds. They vow their Vachans in the Holy Matrimony of Souls.

Well now I am eagerly looking forward to the Maan and NT conversation. Let us see what stroty she cooks up now. As it is nothing is gonna revealed soon. We still have time for that.

Let us come to the most debatable issue today. I have spent 5 hours of my time today and debated on the self clarification of Geet in the changing room which I would "Mirror effect" scene. Lets discuss.

My problem is not Geet's self talk. That is justifiable. I also know and spoken in all my analysis that this self actualization and self- clarification is very important. The self clarification will only increase the faith and confidence. I am completely in sync with Geet here.

But you all have got me in the wrong chord. My problem lies in the 'Continuity". Nissar did not even get me properly here.

Just remember in real life when people fall in love they do have confusion and all the "CON"s…but we also grow in our feelings and understanding and faith and more over growth in Belief. Which was there in the first 20 mins and then suddenly it disappeared in the last scene???

First it was Maan being finding out about what's in Geet's heart and Geet doing the same thing. That is perfectly OK. Logical. That's how it has to be. In my opinion Maan was never straight and he will be when time comes. But if you put yourself in Geet's shoes you will find that she is perfectly right. She definitely will be confused. In her subconscious mind she knows that he loves her but in her logical mind (in reality) she needs a confirmation. That is why she said "Woh mere hain"…Not because in real life she knows…but every human being needs a confirmation. Because here Maan showed so many signals…sometimes intimate, sometimes verbal accusations, sometimes caring etc. with all these signals its quite necessary she will be confused.

Now here the major Goof Up is done by the dialogue writer and Nissar. I understand she is 18 and needs very immature understandings. But having said I must say that the dialogues were not perfect. When she was questioning herself they should have given her strong justifications and all the actual flashbacks where he actually was with her and he completely submitted to her many a times. There lies the poor scene sketch. Imagine yourself when witnessing certain events at HP where Maan said so much and almost opened up to her and she realizing what he said will you all not be in a thinking mode as if why he said that??? She is thinking whether he feels for her and what kind??? Why did she not try to reason out that why he said that??? Why she is not reading between the lines…now don't tell me she is just 18. At 18 even I used to read between the lines…so I can't take it…

And yeah I guess you are heading towards Geet doing like a 12 year old "he loves me" or "he loves me not" scene. That is clich. But if you want to go ahead then go ahead. I will not even watch that part and anyway I am not writing my analysis on Monday so Thanks God…Gouri will do that analysis. I am saved from that pathetic, clich flower scene.

The execution was pathetic here. How come she has doubts on Maan behaving the same with others. She knows Maan for some time now and that is why she should know certain facts about him. There were times when Maan questioned her that why she thinks he is not right for her or whys did you say no to me??? She should have recollected these things and I think it's too early to say as the entire scene will be executed on Monday. So, I want to say again to Nissar that redo the scene and be very logical there as that will be the turning point for Geet to be at cliffhanger where she decides to open up the truth to Maan and the consequences can be anything. So, this self- clarification is one of the major scenes here. I will only blame the Barry Dhillon and Nissar here. Just do your homework here and rectify the mistakes on Monday. You have 2 days of time. Just do that. NO GOOF UP. This is a very important scene in the story line.

New Promo:-Yeah I saw it. I knew this was coming though and Nissar DO NOT GOOF UP. Otherwise you know right??? Yeah. VIRTUALLY DEAD.

I hope I don't need to mention what all I have told you earlier. You already know this. So, remember I want to see a Dhamakedar Episode on the truth and confession and consummation. As I said earlier this is your chance and all your talent should be put here. This will make or break you. So, remember to be very careful.

And one more thing like I always say that just do not follow other person's route instead let them follow your footsteps. Be a landmark here. This confession and truth and consummation is a great opportunity which will take you to places. Mark my words. And yeah the 5th and 6th and 7th Vachan can go hand in hand. Just remember this.

P.S. Well one more thing want to say that may be Monday, 6th Sep. I won't be able to do the Criticism as most probably won't be available. It is a Labor Day and we have a long weekend here so I don't know my plans yet. Gouri will open this thread on Monday.

See you all on Tuesday, 7th Sep. till then CHEERIO.

Overall a good episode.

Over to you all to join the discussion. Feel free to shoot me:-

P.S. Here is the link for "Eagle Eye - Constructive Criticism" at FB. Pl join in the discussion and post your views on today's episode:-

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=678&post=10399&uid=109723285713002#post10399

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Posted: 14 years ago

m tryin sumthin diff 2day.....some songs 2 describe d scenes...

1st scene :

Geet's flashbacks.... lkd d scene.....guess she nt rememberin walkin 2 d room....justifies her assumin dt maan got her in d room....

as it is by nw she knws munda loves d liftin business....😆

...runs 2 d office...she enters as in she is already Mrs Khurana....n Mr Khurana is so f9 wid it....

raat kali ek khwaab mein aayi
aur gale ka haar hui
subah ko jab hum neend se jaage
aankh unhi se char hui.....

maan stripping.....sumthin unexpected frm MSK..dat too in d Office..munda pyaar mein hosh kho baitha hai....😆...

chahe kaho isse meri mohabbat
chahe haasin mein uda do
yeh kya hua mujhe
mujhko khabar nahi
ho sake tum hi bata do......😆.....

maan telling geet.....toh kya hua..main toh hunn na baat karne ke liye..........

kis ka hai hai tum ko intezar
main hun na...
dekh lo idhar toh ek baar
main hun na.....

to which geet replies..

..aap toh itni saari baatein karte ho...ek ghante mein bologe haan...aur dusre mein hmm..

tu bole glass aadha khali....
main bolun aadhan bhara...
tu bole kitna saara...
main bolun zara zara.....
main bolun din he toh..
tu bole raat nahi..
baat toh wahi hai na.....
jaane tu jaane tu ya jaane na....
maane tu ya maane na....

geet lookin in mirror hoping sumthin lk dis to cme frm maan....

tum kamsin ho .....
nadan ho .......
nazuk ho .......
bholi ho......

jus felt lk postin 1 para of d song which can b related..

madhosh ada yeh alad pan...
bachpan toh abhi rootha hi nahi.....
ehsaas hai kya aur kya hai tadap...
iss soch mein dil dooba hi nahi...
tum kamsin ho .....
nadan ho .......
nazuk ho .......
bholi ho......

i lkd d part...thou d dialogues wer poor........bt d scene actual reflects d emotions n reactions of an 18 yr old whoz in love fr d 1st time......

pehla nasha
pehla khumar
naya pyaar hai
naya intazar......
karlu main kya
aapna haal
yeh dil-e-bakarar...
mere dil-e-bekarar...........

..its lk arguin wid 2 widhin.....1 bn firm on maan loving her n gvin her importance dn ny1 else...😃....

while d other is skeptical..😕...bt d girl surely wants d former 2 win.....

also..she is confused...thoda scared..coz she hs already suffered coz of her Family's wrong choice(Dev)....thoda worried fr her n her baby's future......

bt d scene cud hv bn way better....😔

MSK's expressions....wen get said aap samjhte nahi hai na...geen geen ke office mein mere bas do dost the...maan's smile.......n off wen geet turns 2wrds him...

geet's self respect : she said she wud pay fr it......

lkd d scene...shez made it clear to MSK dt his money n gifts arnt d criteria fr her........

........Adi gud job : lk a loyal employee he informed his boss a vry important thing dt happened in MSK's absence

NT n Maan : Nt surely hs sumthin 2 do wid either Maan's past or sumthin wid Khurana bros rift....

....NT's sure shot hand ws proved durin her conversation wid Dev..wen he told her abt pari...n she said ji huzuri... ji huzuri karni hogi....

she mus hv tried 2 get married 2 MSK...bt sam mus hv bn in his life...so opted fr Dev......😆

bt her insecurity dt sam bn elder Khuranas bahu m8 get evrythin...mus hv prompted her 2 do sumthin against....😕...

Maan remembering the colour of her dress .....wow...also loved dt constant smirk on his face...😳

i loved d smile....bt i hated d dress equally....maine kya socha tha aur kya dikha........guys dis is d main reason y v shud w8 fr d actual telecast or continuation..😆...

y does geet gv importance 2 tasha...😕..

n sasha....shez disappeared????

continuity is major prob:

CVs tk maaneet relationshp 2 higher level in 1 epi..n get it bk 2 d same lk b4 on d vry nxt...😕👎🏼

nyway w8in fr monday.....

Edited by adits7 - 14 years ago

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purvimeh

@purvimeh

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+ 2

Posted: 14 years ago

Resevred

Am too tired to penn my feeling will do it tommorrow first thing wit better presence.. Sorry gals...

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BgblZoolander69

@BgblZoolander69

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 14 years ago

Reserved

---Edit---

I absolutely regret reserving today. I don't have much to say or analyze. The epi was too simple for me to give much thought on. Well, anyways's I'll come up with something and will update when I'm done. But I think most of you all are unhappy with the epi.

---Edit---
"Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya"

I'll start with a song.It's from Maan's point of view, so I've changed the "ladka" to "ladki".

<font face="verdana">Yeh ladki hai allah kaisa hai deewani
Kitna mushkil hai tauba isko samjhaana
Ke dheere dheere dil beqaraar hota hai
Hote hote hote, pyaar hota hai
Ho, yeh ladki hai allah kaisa hai deewana
Kitna mushkil hai tauba isko samjhaana
Ke dheere dheere dil beqaraar hota hai
Hote hote hote, pyaar hota hai
Ho, yeh ladki hai allah kaisa hai deewani

Humne to itna dekha, humne to itna sikha
Dil ka sauda hota hai sauda zindagi ka
Ho, humne to itna dekha, humne to itna sikha
Dil ka sauda hota hai sauda zindagi ka
Milte hi kaise koi hota hai deewani
Kitna mushkil hai tauba isko samjhaana
Ke dheere dheere dil beqaraar hota hai
Hote hote hote, pyaar hota hai
Ho, yeh ladki hai allah kaisa hai deewani

Ho sakta hai dekho na, samjho mitti ko sona
Pal bhar ka hasna ho jaaye jeevan bhar ka rona
Haan, ho sakta hai dekho na, samjho mitti ko sona
Pal bhar ka hasna ho jaaye jeevan bhar ka rona
Dekho jaldi mein kabhi dil ko na lagaana
Kitna mushkil hai tauba isko samjhaana
Ke dheere dheere dil beqaraar hota hai
Hote hote hote, pyaar hota hai
Oh, yeh ladki hai allah kaisa hai deewani

Bholi ho tum kya jaano, abhi mujhko pehchaano
Sapna tumhaara main hoon, maano ya na maano
Dekho nadaani se mujhe na thukraana
Nahin to gaati heer hogi yeh taraana
Ke dheere dheere dil beqaraar hota hai
Hote hote hote, pyaar hota hai</font>

You guys get the point of the song...

Let me begin by saying I'm going to be CV's advocate today and I'm not afraid to admit I LIKED the episode. Also I'm not going to write much since I'm not feeling well.

So the episode had a pretty good start. I guess the Cv's understood about the character reflection and continuation after the criticism they got last time.

Who's the first person Geet thinks of when she wakes up? Maan! Love that...it's very understandable that she does this. After all he is he only one she has to call her own. She runs to the office to check on him. In his conversation it is clear that their relationship has gone to the next level. No more hide and seek. It's a full display of their feelings for each other. Especially for Maan. He had some trouble holding back today. Maan loves that she worries about him. During that scene, I saw a new and improved relationship between the two. For one Maan did not yell at her for barging into the meeting. Then Geet yells at him like she owns him and he accepts quietly and explains himself. They have a budding companionship in this episode. I use companion because they really aren't friends but rather companions in life.

Seems like Maan Singh Khurana is in total romance mode today. hmmm...stripping for Geet with a devious smile on his face? Nice! But why did he do that exactly? I think he was testing her and knew she would react the way she did. He wanted to see how she would take it. This was him trying to decipher her feelings again. Everyone is probably disappointed that he didn't finish his strip tease. Besharam ladkiyan!! Geet se kuch seekho.

I loved that Maan is trying to show his feelings now. No more "I hate emotions". At first I was shocked to see him pull Geet towards him when she was about to leave with the green outfit. I was all "Did he really do that?!", but then I was happy. He did it without any hesitation and this time we saw love in his eyes. It wasn't the usual pull he did when he was angry with her. This time it was as a lover. It's about time that Maan to gave in to his feelings and woo his lady love. It shouldn't be too hard for Geet to figure out how Maan feels for her now.

Now to the million dollar question of the day: Is Geet stupid/dumb? I say NO! Okay, I'll be honest; if I was in her place I probably would have figured out that Maan was in love with me by now. But I'm not Geet, and her circumstances and logic doesn't work the same way ours does because we are not in her situation. We as the audience see the story in its entirety, we see Maan's view, we see Geet's view, we see Dev's view...etc. You get the point. Geet can only see her view. We all know that Maan loves Geet since day one. But Geet on the other hand has always gotten mixed signals from Maan. One moment he's angry with her and the next moment he's her friend. Do you get her confusion? The audience already knows all the facts and therefore cannot understand her contemplation. Our view is biased. Let me ask you all one thing, before you tell someone that you love him, don't you want be a 100% sure that he loves you too? Remember Maan has always told her to stay away from him. Geet has only seen the sudden change in his heart in the past two days in Hoshiarpur. For the first time Maan has given her an indication of his feeling directly to her. Don't you all think it would take her time to accept that after being cheated by Dev? Maan has always given her an attitude and told her she's incompetent and now he tells her she's the bravest girl he has ever met. The girl needs to mull this over in her head. One more thing, Geet can't just tell Maan that she loves him, because when she does, she also has to tell him about her past. She can't rush in to it without being sure how he will take it. She is afraid that he might turn her down when she tells him, and I don't think she is ready for that heart break. After what happened with Dev she finally found happiness. I'm sure she doesn't want it taken away to leave her broken again. Geet has to be sure that Maan is willing to accept her; otherwise she will be hurt. For her to get a rejection from the man that has been her constant support system will be more painful. She does not want her relationship with him to deteriorate. This is her protecting herself. Was I able to change anyone's mind about Geet's level of intelligence? Be a little patient I think it's too early to judge how this is going to turn out.

Maan and Naintara convo - Will talk about this on Monday. But I will say that I love that Maan knows the eviltara well. I feel a twist on the way. Oh and CV's thank you so much for doing what I asked. You put Adi to good use. Very logical and a good move.

Favorite dialogues of the day:

Maan : "Main hoon na tumhare paas"

Geet: "Jab woh meri hain, to mujhe office pe kiske
parwa karne ki zaroot nahin hain"

Favorite Sceneof the Day: Maan and Geet argument in his cabin.

Over all it was a good episode, my rating is 8/10. I wasn't really expecting something light hearted after yesterday's epi. I'm enjoying Maan and Geet's interactions.

Edited by ann65 - 14 years ago

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geet.a

@geet.a

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 14 years ago

Tumhari wajah se meri zindagi hari bhari hogayi hai Geet 😆 😆 😆

I won't write much today
and jump straight in!

Just a few lines, perhaps would explain what I think right now is Geet's predicament

I will protect you forever, he had said,
and yet he scared her everyday,
I will always be here for you, he had said,
she believed him but what is the duration of that always?

Geet has been suppressed, coerced, manipulated, married, used and abandoned. IT is difficult for her to believe Maan..why wouldn't it be? All that he has done for her- as a protector.
Geet being Geet won't look too deeply, because her past has scarred her.

Maan has always been a guide and a savior first and then...what..he hasn't officially been anything else. some things needn't be made official..but at least to each other.

No matter what signs have been shown- they are still only a bit clearer about their feelings now.

I guess the show is exploiting this facade of "anjana ehsaas"

Maan made official in her life, his position of being a savior...Is it enough?
But he needs to show her how she has saved him..emotionally

maan SIR ka dimaag Geet ko protect karta hai
Geet says she needs to know what Maan has in his heart now...

He has to accede to be the father of her child- who is her first priority, right?

THAT for her will be the ultimate acceptance.

Till then, Geet will be almost in a kind of self-denial-wavering mode- because she hasn't told him the truth.

Their understanding is building up slow..but at least they are communicating now..I think that is a huge plus.

Geet has said "mangetar". Maan has started completing his phrases..

I don't think I need to go into signs of Maan loving Geet- like his dismissing meeting for her, getting her clothes, telling her that she can talk to him..and taking that opportunity to strip in front of her 😆

But as far as the Geet self-talk is concerned- not very good.

Geet morning scene was good. her office scene where everyone ignored her was good. BUt her talking to herself- didn't convince me too much.

It's only with the truth that they can accept each others' and their own feelings completely, I guess.
😳

I hope the team shows this happening logically

There is only a loose kind of logic in this episode- the one that brings Geet to office.

Symbolism-

Not much that I could find.

1. Geet thought of MAAN today before she thought of BABAJI

2. Blood on her dupatta. HER honor is HIS too now with the dupatta binding that happened yesterday
So he doesn't want the bond's purity to be sullied and so he readjusts her dupatta.

3. MAan's choice of Green..Apart from the excuse he gave..HAsn't she really made his life come alive. All Green again?

Green symbolises fertility- Their baby

Green also symbolises growth- The growth in their relationship

Okay so I AM getting in too deep but -
Green is the color of nature- MAan's connecting with Geet in an ORGANIC way..it's natural..not forced connection now..there is no insistence anymore. It's naturally progressing..at a snail's pace..but still.. 😆

That said
I loved the office ka attitude to Geet..but I would have preferred if di and Pinky had teased her a bit

I WANT MORE ADI-GEET scenes!! 😳

Adi taking chips from Pinky was FUnny!! 😆

I also liked Adi going to MAan and telling him about NT.
And MAAN immediately calling her up and asking her for a meeting about Geet..scaring the hell out of her!!

I would like to say 👏 great acting by KArishma..I LOVE her acting..!!

Guru, Drashti- 👏

I loved the amused glint in Maan's eyes while Geet was talking and Geet's ghabraya hua expression while she barged into the meeting 👏

Didn't like the suit too much. Color was good though!
btw..the such a huge changing room..LOL

okay..that's it..

Over to you guys!

I would give- 7 on 10

Edited by geet.a - 14 years ago

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taqdir

@taqdir

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Hello, everyone, firstly I would like to apologize for being so late in posting my analysis. Its only because I was busy participating a mind blowing conference in the den. Another reason is that, for the first time I didn't know what to write, although i liked the episode very much. So I will make my speech short and state my understanding of the episode aired on 03, sep, 2010 only because I reserved a spot on the very first page on a weekend when even the busiest person would be going through the den!

Well, this is how it started. Geet woke up and remembered everything. Glad that she heard MSK saying on the car that he doesn't know what happens to him whenever geet is around. Then she recalls all the stuffs that maan said about how his life is meaningless without her, how his life is habituated by her presence and finally offered his hand to take her home. She recalled that maan is injured and rushed to enquire his condition. Now that was the most important and only message of that day. Geet no longer is uncomfortable about her feelings for maan neither is she hesitant to express it. She believes that she has the right to worry about him, take care of him or even question him a little. Well, happy for you geet.

Then comes the maan-geet moments which was only for entertainment with a little message in the bracket that they are CONnecting. Keep it up!

Then comes the part where lots of us lost ourselves, lost our speeches, lost our minds and ability to analyze (me). We saw geet put on a new dress and with that got all new herself. She forgot everything about the past few days and wanted to find out what's in maan's mind. She decided to resolve the confusion by taking a flower and only god knows if she would be depending more on the petals or on maan's words! Innocence and ignorance are two very different things. We have had such a huge discussion on that topic that I will not say anything about it here. Only that ...............excuse me!

A lot of discussion here suggests that the last part which bothered some of us so much is incomplete and we should be judging after the Monday's episode. So waiting for Monday to come. Meanwhile here's a song dedicated to the CVS.

I thought I did what's right
I thought I had the answers
I thought I chose the surest road
But that road brought me here

So I put up a fight
And told you how to help me
Now just when I have given up
The truth is coming clear

You know better than I
You know the way
I've let go the need to know why
For you know better than I

If this has been a test
I cannot see the reason
But maybe knowing I don't know
Is part of getting through

I try to do what's best
And faith has made it easy
To see the best thing I can do
Is put my trust in you

For You know better than I
You know the way
Ive let go the need to know why
Ill take what answers you supply
You know better than I

Loves and prayers..........

PS: A fews words about the promo. I liked her "firm" tone when she said that she was pregnant. I liked it a lot that she felt the need to "inform" him certain things instead of "approaching herself" for his favourable consideration. Thanks CVS for that.

Edited by taqdir - 14 years ago

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Sonia Bhalla

@SuhaniSonia

Inactive

+ 2

Posted: 14 years ago

Reserved!! Hope on the 2nd page this time!!

Lovely lighthearted episode!! 👍🏼

Magically growing hair!! 😆
Loved the strip show. I wish it had continued further!! ☺️
Nice cute scenes between them. 😳
Interesting outfit!! 😕

Geet's continued confusion is a bit much but makes sense with her age and inexperience. Plus she is more cautious now after all that occurred and its not like he completely confessed!! 😃

Edited by SuhaniSonia - 14 years ago

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Vinitha

@Blueberry_07

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 14 years ago

Reserved 😉😆

-EDIT-

The episode starts off with Geet waking up and having those flashbacks. VERY appropiate to put in the flashbacks in there! So CVs great job here! She remembered all the way from making friends with Maan to that near death experience to Maan's promises

*will come back to edit*

Edited by Blueberry_07 - 14 years ago