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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73

Chalhov so you mean seeing her face everyday is not enough....he has to see it in water to remember it....😉😆....in between the negative and coloured flashes, can I also have rainbow coloured ones please. 😉

Despite seeing her face everyday and staring no end in her eyes 😆😆 since he met Radhika again and the minute he sees her and says chipkoo is his wife😡 he is still getting negative flashes not color nor rainbow color so the negatives have to be processed with water to get the correct picture😆😆😆😉i
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Misti u could see i have hardly ever mentioned about the payal in my posts as i didnt want to keep expecting about it. But yesterday i felt Dev is coming back.
now reading ur reply i feel i postpone my expectations for next time.
Let see aur kithna drag karthe hai.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Misti,
Regarding y'day episode more dialogues than eye-locks. For that I am thankful.
1) Dadima's feelings for Radhika and how she has to fight for her suhaag and sindoor goes to show the love that radhika has earned from them. God forbid I hope the Purohits don't reach that day where they have to make a choice between Dev or Radhika.
Radha in my opinion love and respect are two such things that can never be earned. You love a person because of what a person is, you also respect a person because of what a person is.........if someone loves and respect a person because the other person has earned it then that is not true respect or love. So does that mean that Radika has to serve these people all throughout her life............be insulted by others throughout her life, so that the Purohits love and respect her!!! Are the writers so sadistic that they want the main central character of Radhika to suffer almost everyday so that she earns this respect and love? Have the writers no imagination that they are going round and round the same concept of Radhika having to prove something.....be it her foster family last year and the Purohits this year?
2) Dadima's recollection of only one marriage in Dev's kundali is just to convince the audience that the CV's do remember this, especially since MR is planning a Kanika-Dev marriage. Interestingly, Radhika was not aware of this at all and y'day she would have heard it for the first time.(The drama that happened in PB).
Radha I realised looking at Radhikas expression that she was not aware of that and the writers could have easily tied up a loose end here....they could have shown Radhika realising why Vaishali behaved so rudely with her during the engagement period last year and instead of Vaishali sitting there and blushing and smiling they could have given her a single dialogue that how sorry she was for doubting Radhika and thinking that she is bad for Dev.......but again a golden oppurtunity gone wasted. As for the fact that the creatives are trying to remind the audience that they have not forgotten the single marriage thing in the kundali.......that leads to my next thought, are the creatives so insecure about their own screenplay that they have to now reassure their audience. Last year when Radhika was living in PB and Vishaka was there, we all knew that nothing bad will happen because Radhika and Dev are meant to be one....that group of writers never had to remind us of this fact by giving any dialogues to the characters. If the creatives are aware of the single marriage thing then few weeks back why did they give dadima a dialogue that she is worried what will happen to CB even if Dev returns because he now has this new wife and child with him..........if the creatives knew about the one marriage thing then they should not have given that dialogue to dadima or they could have shown dadima saying that then Vivek or Vaishali saying that this second marriage cannot happen because it is not there in the kundali. Why is all this telling me that they were not aware of that part in Devs past (I think this a new batch of creatives who came with this leap track) or were least bothered with it but seeing the audience reaction are now running to sooth the audience by dropping the carrots.
3) From almost a month or maybe 15 days I am getting the feeling that the episodes are connected with the previous ones. That is why I could predict the sindoor episode and the barsi connection.
The episodes might be connected Radha but to me that does not mean anything if they are destroying Abhays character (I am not even going to talk about Dev here). Abhay was introduced as a very perceptive person who could read others intention by their expression and from that Abhay we are left with a shell without a soul and brains............and why because of the creatives urge to justify the circles and to hide the fact that they cannot write. The main benchmark of any screenplay is characterisation.......if that is played with then the screenplay becomes very hollow. Thats why I said today in my response to one of Angies post that all the ingredients were there in the episode but since they messed up, the episode was a hllow one for me.
4) Radhika losing the other paayal is not making me feel comfortable. If you look at the pre-cap she had the same expressions like the day when Dev met with the accident and she was looking shaken.
Frankly I don't care about payal and all the carrots that the creatives are throwing.....without no screenplay, awful dialogues and continuous pingponging of Abhays character........all these are of no importance to me. You know what this is reminding me of............I mean the continuous use of gimmicks and carrots .......a disabled person who cannot walk and hence needs crutches to walk.......for me the creatives (I mean both the production house and zee tv) are like that disabled person who cannot write so need all these gimmicks and carrots to write..........so the gimmicks and carrots are the crutches here. What a sorry state of creativity.
Most of us in the forum are really upset that amma and Devki escaped the punishment and are allowed to go scot-free.
But if you look at this track, it is a huge punishment track for both Radhika and Vaishali. Vaishali gave up her innocent child for the sake of her family and basically for a mistake she committed and got the curse of some pundit. Today when Dev refuses to accept her as his mother and goes to the extent of doing barsi which is going over-board, will she realise this mistake of hers? Will she realise the feelings of the sense of rejection be it a mother or a child? Radhika is also going through this ordeal because she thought Vaishali was mahaan although she did not like the thought of disowning the child. Secondly, Radhika is also made to realise what Dev and his family went thro' when she chose to keep quiet about the truth of the first marriage. It is extremely unfortunate for Radhika to suffer in both the circumstances.
Realisation of the mistakes and repentance will be needed to make Dev come back to them for good. I am expecting 2 visits in the near future--one from Kanha and another from some pundit to make the story go forward on expected lines.
Coming to Vaishali......what she did was wrong.......and I have always said that...again my problem is in order to punish her they are destroying Abhay........and that is why this "punishment track" is again hollow for me. If they really wanted repentence from her then they could have given her a single dialogue .........when she is talking with the family members in the temple area that she feels that all this is her fault........they could show her breaking down and accepting the fault on her own......without any prompting.......without any thing poking her...........that she feels that since she gave up one son and refused to acknowledge him........her other son is doing the same thing to her.......that would have been real repentence and would have been more effective because she did that on her own........her soul finally woke up and she acknowledged her mistake in front of others on her own........realising ones mistake on your own is much more powerful than someone making that person realise it. As for Radhika and her mistake........yes she did all that and for that I have said that this track is a convoluted attempt of the creatives to show that one should not take advantgae of others (for Radhika) and that one should not be so over confident (for Dev)......but if you see and compare all the four characters here.........all excepting one had some sort of wekness or circumstance that can be used to explain their mistake........Devki for bring meek, no personality and completely under the control of the MIL (amma), Vaishali ..........for being totoally society conscious and this urge to prove that she is the best Rajpurohitan, basically a very insecure person.....thats why she was so dependent on dadima...and Radhika ....childhood abuse the screwed up her thought process ...but amma...........she has no excuse for what she has done and she will repeat it if given a chance......so the greatest culprit here is amma, but I think as usual Radhika is the one who is going to be punished here more than the others........so the person who has suffered the most throughut her life will be again suffering here.......and I mean Radhika.
Coming to my last point.....who made these characters........the creatives.........who made them act like this .....the creatives....who gave Radhika that dialogue which actually completely clashes with her characterisation ..the creatives.......who blundered through out Shantanu track.......the creatives.........what a mess these creatives are in all for the sake of searching for drama at the wrong places and letting the right oppurtunities go.😉😆
As for Kanha and pandit........I am also expecting that but not because they are needed but because they are part of the circle.😉.....😆😆😆.....
Edited by misti73 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#34
Misti,
I liked your answers to Radha's comments. They are very good and articulate my thoughts that I wasn't able to put down in the thread.
You are right that the creatives are not only destroying Dev's character (this set didn't create that character and has no clue about him at all or why audience liked him), but they are also destroying their own creation - Abhay. Few weeks ago, Abhay used to be quite curt to Kanika and even questioned her fake caring when she called to enquire if he had eaten. He told her bluntly that her motive was to question him about Radhika and not ask about food as she never did that in five years. Now, he doesn't question her motives in keeping a fast for him after five years or her pretense of not feeling well. She was feeling well enough to insult Radhika and then suddenly developed weakness after breaking the so called fast.
There is no thought process about tying up these episodes with previous story. In fact, they are not even connecting their own episodes. So, that's why in one episode all the gunda party was after Dev and chachoo was trying to kill him and in the next episode there was nothing. They showed Rajjan kidnapping Radhika, but then there was nothing about it. She didn't inform anybody about it and all are treating Rajjan as if he never threatened them or Radhika at all. So, yesterday when the PF was wondering about claims of CN, they never connected it with fraud as they know that both Rajjan and Kanika are crooks and bad people. Despite the time line and both Katyani and Kanika telling them about the marriage timing and Deepu's birth, they still wonder that how come Dev got married to Kanika despite his kundli. So, these episodes change from one day to another as the writers or channel decide on the spot.
Janamastmi is going to be there in 10-12 days, but I am sure that nothing won't tie to that. Last year, there was a thought process in which the families decide to get Dev and Radhika married without either of them seeking the marriage. It was shown that Kanha decided to bring them together in this way. This year, it would be just pure melodrama. The writers and channel have concluded that the best way to get ratings is to show a triangle where Radhika is tortured daily. So, they would stick with this formula until the ratings go down. Then, it is usual couple of love scenes between Dev and Radhika to pacify the audience and so on.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Thanks Why3 and Misti for putting in your thoughts on my comments.
What I am writing now is especially from the POV of Radhika.
1) Love for me is a feeling that you have for what the person is--I concurr with you on this Misti. This Radhika has got only from Dev. Dev accepted Radhika for what she is despite being burnt. That is unconditional love. I dont think anyone else has given Radhika that kind of love at all. Trust is one aspect which is associated with love. That is why when the trust factor is lost, then love does not exist. I want to substantiate why I feel Radhika has earned her love and it was not a spontaneous feeling from the others.
Respect is holding someone in high esteem and I belong to the school of thought where I feel respect cannot be demanded and it has to be earned.
Those things that come to mind when we talk of love are:
1) After the first RP puja on Dadima's request Radhika was allowed to stay at PB. Being the sister of the DIL of the house how is it that she was accomodated in the store room? Did they not make use of Radhika for the day to day chores? They were happy with Radhika because they thought she had a positive influence on Vishaka. There the members of PB liked Radhika it was not love.
2) After Vishaka ran away from home, and when Dev wanted to marry Radhika I felt Dadima approved Dev's choice and felt that she will be an ideal choti-bahu and a proper match for Dev. She felt that Radhika will be Dev's strength. Has she approved Radhika from the POV of Dev's well-being or for her love for Radhika?
3) After the Goa trip when Dev brought Vishaka with him she sent Radhika on her mission to bring Dev round and remove the head-ache. Radhika had to set the things in order and once again she was used. But that was the beginning of a change in their relationship from like to love.
4) When Radhika disclosed the truth of the first marriage, barring Birju who else came forward to believe Radhika? Where did the trust factor go? I do understand the situation was such that it was difficult to believe but why did not anyone think that could there be some truth attached to this? Even Dev believed Radhika only when she took the Kanha kasam.
5) After the matter was resolved Radhika had to beg Dadima for forgiveness. She asked the other members to support her and convince Dadima to forgive her. She was even willing to do prasyaschit and absolve for the mistake committed by her. Only Dev came forward to talk on her behalf. Did Dadima still forgive her? No, Radhika had to say that only her dead-body will leave this house as she has married and come to live in this house.
6) During the Dev death sequence the widow ceremony that was forced upon Radhika and every PB member was asilent spectator because they were in their own world of grief. Radhika fought this battle alone till such time some sense prevaliled upon Dadima and Vaishali. That was the second step towards their love for her.
7) After going thro the ups and downs for 5 years in their exile at Agra, and since Radhika's trust has paid off that they have got their Dev back things are different today. Radhika has given so much by way of love towards the PB family that they are reciprocating this to her now.
That is the reason why I felt that y'day's statement of Dadima that she feels bad when Radhika has to fight for her suhaag and sindoor was because of the love earned by Radhika.
After explaining myself I want to see 2 things.
1) Tomorrow after Dev's memory is back will Dadima subject Dev to any kind of punishment for being extremely harsh on them or is it going to be a case of blood is thicker than water. The signs are already there that she may forgive him from that one statement she made y'day telling Vaishali that this poor guy does not know who he is, and where he is.
2) If the PB's have to choose between Dev or Radhika whom will they choose? I hope such a situation occurs and I would like to see the dilema or whether it is going to be a straight forward choice.?
By this post I am not trying to impose my views on anybody on the other hand that is how strongly I feel for Radhika.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Nice analysis Radha with ur theory I feel whenever there will be a situation of choice between Dev and Radhika whatever it may be dadi will choose Dev Here Vaishali will be the chuppi rustum as u call that she will favour Radhika This I say looking at the History of her behaviour after the puja when Dev came back and Radhika sent him back after that Vaishali has always supported her DIL .If she has opposed after that incident i do not recall and both MIL and DIL supported each other on most occasions and there is a strong relation between them.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Chalhov,
Thanks you had the patience to read such along post and respond.
The five years of exile at Agra has brought Vaishali and Radhika close. They ahve seen the ups and downs together. Whereas, Dadima was in a world of her own. All that happened in the 5 years is only hearsay for Dadima because she cannot comprehend this. The feelings will also be like-wise. The only time when Vaishali came very close to hurting Radhika was when she planned to do the death ceremony of Dev during some amavasya. Otherwise their relationship has really improved.
One other thing that has been eating my head is during the Vishaka track, Radhika was trying to put a photo in a photo-frame. Dev wanted to help her and Radhika said she would do it herself. I hope you remember what Dev told her--If you start to do everything by yourself you will never feel the absence of your husband at all. If you look at the current track there is a possibility that Dev will manage to remember everyone else except Radhika. The circle theory also suggests that Radhika has to go out. That is why this discussion as to how the purohits will react in such a situation?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Misti,
The last para was not meant for you but just a general statement because it was an extremely long post. It ends there. i do take the privilige of coming to your thread and pen my thoughts because I enjoy interacting on other aspects apart from the story-line.
Sometimes I do find some posts pretty strongly-worded to put it mildly and I do feel very uncomfortable on going to such threads. But definitely I have no problems interacting with you.😊
Edited by radha_bilahari - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: radha_bilahari

Misti,

The last para was not meant for you but just a general statement because it was an extremely long post. It ends there. i do take the privilige of coming to your thread and pen my thoughts because I enjoy interacting on other aspects apart from the story-line.
Sometimes I do find some posts pretty strongly-worded to put it mildly and I do feel very uncomfortable on going to such threads. But definitely I have no problems interacting with you.😛



Oh Good Radha I was getting worried there.😃.........I also like interacting with you😛........so Here is to Radhika the character whom we both like. 😉😃😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73


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Sigrid they have almost completely destroyed Dev. The interesting part is unlike most of you Dev has never been my favourite character........its always been Radhika for me but the Radhika that I am seeing now has only been possible because of Dev. If this guy did not come into her life, her life of abuse would have continued. He isthe main person behind this transformation and for this and for what he had been shown has (I mean last year and to some extent beginning of this year) I liked him. As a character I prefer Radhika more because she was very complex and still is and the initial group of writers did agood job in creating such a complex character without destroying the main essence of the character (although the second batch of creatives did start messing with her too).....but here the creatives are destroyingDev and Abhay just because they cannot write screenplay and they cannot write dialogues and they cannot do characterisation....they are I think trying to create acomplex character but whatIam seeing isjust an empty shell.




Misti, even I started watching this show for Radhika more than Dev, but later on the way he was there for her and she is what because of Dev. The way Dev stood by her in thick or thin.........that made me love him too.
But at present the Cvs are messing Dev/Abhay so much, all because they are so busy with their new shows, that they have lost interest in this show

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