Argue Pro/Con: Naku DID betray Dutta

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Here's a topic I wanted to start up for debate, and I would love to hear your perspective.

A few posts today got me thinking about Naku and whether she did betray Dutta or not.

My contention is that she DID betray Dutta. But NOT in the way you may think. Yes, she did not help Supriya run away. That was that deamoness Kala's handiwork.

But Naku did HIDE the truth about Supriya and her boy-toy/pimp, whatever you prefer, 😕 Ravi. Two reasons she did that: 1) She wanted him to have pyaari pyaar in his life and 2) she was worried he would not believe her and that would break off HER RELATIONSHIP with him. Fair enough, right?

So, I began questioning Naku's brain matter...but I guess in love, all our brain matter stops mattering.

First argument I have: She convinced herself he would have pyaari pyar in his life, it didn't matter if Supriya could care less about him. She ASSUMED. She assumed Supriya after marriage would love him, make babies, everything would be great. I'm thinking silly girl and yes, stupid girl. For someone who understands people's natures, how can she be so blind? Blinded by love, I guess. I wanted to say look at yourself--how much you are in love with Dutta and can you turn it on and off like a lightswitch? So how can she assume Supriya, who had been pretty selfish, would do so?

Second argument: She did not want to hurt him. She wanted their friendship to remain. And that's fair. But she set Dutta up for a BIG FALL. She kept encouraging him about love this and love that, and PURPOSEFULLY LIED ABOUT SUPRIYA. In my book, withholding the truth is as much a lie as saying something outright that is untrue.

And this is the same road she is going down again, much to my chagrin. The same mistakes. I fully expect the CVs to make it interesting, but hopefully we will see that Dutta has in fact changed since that time, because I think we all agree, he has.

What do you say?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with you that by hiding the truth about Supriya running away with Ravi and not loving Dutta she is guilty of betrayal of friendship. She herself doubted that decision because in a scene where she praying to Bappa she validates whether she had done the right thing. I think she also had an indirect convo with Babi regarding the same line. But in the end she thought she did the right thing as she was convinced that would be the best thing for her love Dutta. She could not bear seeing him being hurt again.

I also agree with you that by her not revealing her true self she is again headed on the same path but from her point of view she doesn't think Dutta loves her enough to care otherwise and also that she is no longer part of his life so how does it matter.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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First argument I have: She convinced herself he would have pyaari pyar in his life, it didn't matter if Supriya could care less about him. She ASSUMED. She assumed Supriya after marriage would love him, make babies, everything would be great. I'm thinking silly girl and yes, stupid girl. For someone who understands people's natures, how can she be so blind? Blinded by love, I guess. I wanted to say look at yourself--how much you are in love with Dutta and can you turn it on and off like a lightswitch? So how can she assume Supriya, who had been pretty selfish, would do so?

Nice topic 😊.. anyway i will go with 1st argument. in my opinion as naku is in luv with Dutta it is inconcievable for her to think that anybody can hate or dislike him as acc to her ''saab aap bohat acha hain'''. She is making a mistake again but unconsiously bcoz she think that she is so beautiful that any man will want her, she want dutta to accept her in her dark avataar n like her for her heart, she is nt thinking beyond, she doesnt think it will b an issue. she is sure that if her true color is revealed dutta will accept her as his wife...okaY thats wht i think.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltl_fan

I agree with you that by hiding the truth about Supriya running away with Ravi and not loving Dutta she is guilt of betrayal of friendship. Sheherself doubted that decision because in a scene where she praying to Bappa she validates whether she had done the right thing. I think she also had an indirect convo with Babi regarding the same line. But in the end she thought she did the right thing as she was convinced that would be the best thing for her love Dutta. She could not bear seeinghim being hurt again.


</div>I also agree with you that by her not revealing her true self she is again headed on the same path but from her point of view she doesn't think Dutta loves her enough to care otherwise and also that she is no longer part of his life so how does it matter.
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<font size="2">Very true, what you said. But I think in her heart, there's a little flicker...of hope, wishing. I'm telling you--it's one of the most amazing things about us people in general--you can kill so many things in a person, but despite the things we go through in life, there is that little part in our souls that always keeps hope, that always believes. </font>
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Posted: 15 years ago
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well gp it is good question u mean she is going the same road with her face hiding. well supria case as u said she did that not to hurt him when she was about to tell him he was all praises 4 supria how can she shatter that hope he had , after all she dared him to dream. to dream about pyar, family and e/thing. but about her face she should tell him herself when they r alone rather than by accident and sooner than later. thats my p.o.v.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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The thing with Supriya came up in the past here, I think. And I still think thata, yes, she did "betray" him back then and he had every right for being angry (though to which extend is a whole another question). She though it was the best thing to do, not necessary the right thing. As mentioned here, she doubted her decision herself, but believed it would work out after the marriage. She wanted it so badly, she put all her doubts aside.

As you wrote, the problem is that she is so much in love. Because a friend, a good, but platonic friend should them you if they know something so important about your fiance, of course. But her love blinded her and made her do the most illogical thing (and the wrong thing).


Now coming to her color. I'm not sure if she herself sees her disguise as a "lie" or "betrayal". She's used to it and it's her rampant, her protective wall. She knows he would be angry as hell now, but he also told her once that everybody is allowed to have a secret. Those were other times, of course. Things have changed between them and now that she knows him inside out I'm sure she does feel a sting of guilt from time to time for hiding something.

But she also might think that once he's cooled down a little he would be able to understand why she didn't tell him earlier. That there was never the right moment. And why she is covered at all. It's again her love and confidence in him that makes her think so.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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naku had no intention of betraying dutta.she has her own reasons.first she didn't say about ravi-sup relation bcoz she has seen how much dutta had developed a trust and love towards sups .so if she would have told the truth dutta would have been completely heartbroken(knowing that she doesn't know about our trio and BH intentions).you must test supriya's brain cells😕 instead of our naku.that sup had no reason for betraying our dutta.
right now naku doesn't want to reveal her face bcoz she wants dutta to love/fall on her inner beauty and not on her outward beauty(that's fair enough) 👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: reachruby88

naku had no intention of betraying dutta.she has her own reasons.first she didn't say about ravi-sup relation bcoz she has seen how much dutta had developed a trust and love towards sups .so if she would have told the truth dutta would have been completely heartbroken(knowing that she doesn't know about our trio and BH intentions).you must test supriya's brain cells😕 instead of our naku.that sup had no reason for betraying our dutta.

right now naku doesn't want to reveal her face bcoz she wants dutta to love/fall on her inner beauty and not on her outward beauty(that's fair enough)👏



I was no fan of the empty-headed Sups, affectionately whom I call bobblehead. I don't think Naku is vain enough to think Dutta would fall in love with her outer beauty. I do not think that thought even occurred to her, although it did to Babi and Ganpath.

I don't think this hiding of her identity is a litmus test, to see if he really loves her for herself. Remember Naku knows Dutta's heart is stirred by understanding and love, NOT by looks. I don't think she ever looked at it as needing to see if he loves her for her inner qualities--her preoccupation is with the trust between the two.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I believe loves sometimes blinds one's wisdom.. Nakku loves,adores and respect dutta ...so much so that she can go to any length. like even give her life if that makes dutta happy.. she knows his pain to the core.. maybe more than even his own family.. she tried her best to make dutta realize the power of love and how it can wipe away all his past grief if he accepts supriya..though it broke her heart to pieces, dutta's happiness was the only thing in the world that mattered to her..
when she came to know about supriya and ravi she didn't think about all the pros and cons.. the first thing she might have thought was to how she can save the marriage, because that is what will set all things in dutta's life right.. her wisdom didn't help her.. she didn't think that if she can't forget her love how can supriya?? she only thought from dutta's perspective.. she hiding the truth from dutta was also one of such act..
i think it was only her complete devotion and love for dutta that made her act the way she did.. it was only her heart that ruled..

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