Analysing Abhi-Simi's love and relationship

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Let me first try analyzing Abhi's reasoning for loving Simi

1. Abhi was attracted to her simplicity and he seemed to like the way Simi was praying oblivious of the surrounding. He was surprised the way she did not even turn around to look who it was who rang the bell along with her.

2. Abhi's second meeting with simi ended in a handshake and both seemed to hold to each other's hand a little while longer. Probably they wanted to show the connect between two souls even as they did not know each other.

3. The third meeting was when Simi escaped from Bhalla. Probably Abhi appreciated the fact that the woman held on to her self respect in spite of the "fiancee" matter.

4. Their fourth meeting was when he dropped her to the police station. Abhi tried to make her smile because he just sympathized with what she must be going through.

5. Their Qutb Minar meeting - Abhi and Simi never even knew each other's names. Still he was worried that she is marrying a man in spite of not being her choice since she already told him that decisions are not always made for oneself but for other's sake. We got to see Abhi surprised and may be appreciating the fact that Simi puts behind her happiness when it comes to her family.

This led to Abhi investigating about Bhalla and going to the extent of disclosing about Bhalla in spite of Simi's non cooperation.

6. Abhi went ahead meeting her in college, bringing out the little girl in Simi, gifting her, making her also get a little naughty by bunking class, enjoyed the way she was enjoying chat without inhibitions. Probably he realized Simi has always subdued her emotions being the older sibling to her sibs. Abhi could understand over phone that she was feeling low and hence that overnight conversation where he made Simi talk a lot about herself.

7. He liked her concern when she told him to travel next day since he did not sleep that night.

8. After meeting Guruji, he felt there was more to it than a friendship with Simi though he seemed not to realize what his feelings were for Simi.

9. Abhi was clearly appreciating Simi's concern and prayers to Matarani when he calls her.

10. Abhi might have slowly understood and moved ahead with his feelings for Simi. In the park when Simi calls herself old and fat, Abhi was the one who told her they have been roaming around for a while, they have been close enough to talk overnight, that she is not fat and old and he told her that she is quite attractive, smart and that he likes her. Her sudden reaction that it is not love, Isn't it took him by surprise.

11. Abhi seemed to be irritated by the fact that Simi is worrying that she was rejected by that Sharma guy and was angry when she was sarcastically telling him to find a guy for her just like all others are doing.

12. The decision was made by Abhi when Simi called to tell that Bhalla threatened her and also gave her an inclination that he has decided something and after which she will not have to cry in front of anyone.

13. Abhi felt Simi is dependant on him and for all that she has gone through he wanted to give her the best of a life and he decided it would be their life together.

14. Abhi was compelled to just seek friendship for reasons he stated to Guruji about a job, house and security and the age factor and Simi's reaction or feelings for him.

15. Till here we got to see that Simi is also yearning for genuine love and hoping she will meet her prince charming.

16. Abhi confessing to Simi that he loved her could have been shown after one or two episodes where they discuss their feelings for each other. But it's a fact that it was not done.

17. Nakul came into the picture. When she was bothering about what could be done about Neetu, she pushed aside Abhi's worry about Nakul being a better suitor for her than himself. Having been rejected multiple times, she was not actually worried and told Abhi not to worry since chances are high that Nakul will reject her. According to Simi, it was a plain proposal and did not expect Nakul and daadi's intention for Omi-Neetu and hence a possible yes from Nakul.

18. Here onwards we have Simi surrounded by problems?.Nitu getting pregnant, and AnujAnita leaving home. She as an elder sister decided what the best solution out was for Neetu and compelled her for a termination of pregnancy. Here Simi's concern was avoiding the pain for her parents when they get to know about Neetu. Though incorrect, her intention was to avoid trouble and the shame for her family. Simi is not shown as the one who makes decision after much thoughtful contemplation. It has always been impulsive.

19. When it was her mother taunting her for being unmarried, she decided whoever it was irrespective of what a loser he was, she just went by her impulsive decision to get herself out of the "unmarried" status. Though her father is supportive, as declared by her own dad prior to Roka, Simi has always looked forward to an approval from Manju and was always bent upon pleasing her. So here again in Neetu's case, her decision is for the sake of family. But she hardly realized she is alienating her own sister from her.

20. Her next problem troubling her was Anuj leaving home and her mother Manju literally throwing tantrums and threatening of consequences if Anuj did not return home.

21. Her papaji had promised Abhi that he would get anything in return if he would manage to get the shop opened for papaji. Simi has actually banked on that issue. When her dad accepts the proposal from Daadi at Nakul's home, she is actually getting worried at the turn of events. When her dad asks her to decide, Simi tells her dad thet she will decide by that Saturday because she knew Abhi had managed the papers toget the shop open and when Abhi would ask for her hand in marriage,papaji would accept. So she decided she can push Nakul's issue till Saturday. Simi was never shown to be the girl who speaks her mind out. Even after Simi was asked several times, instead of telling her dad that she loved Abhi, she waited for Abhi to seek her hand officially. Simi has been like this, thanks to her mother's taunts all the time.

22. But unfortunately with Anita brainwashing her, she got worried about Anuj and her mother's separation. So going by her usual behavior, she put aside her happiness with Abhi and forced him to ask Anita-Anuj's return. Knowing fully well how adamant Abhi is, she decided to insult him so that he will not ask what he came for. It was the most demeaning thing to do. But that's how Simi is, her priorities are different. When Abhi leaves her that goodbye note, she cries out to Mili that she loves Abhi and he had actually come to ask her hand in marriage. But thanks to Mili, with that unfortunate electrocution scene (the sad day in KB), they patch up. And when Abhi insists that he is going to meet her dad, she agrees. She had happily returned home along with Abhi that day after their little romance in the park but was soon surrounded by Anita's plan to demean Abhi as a womanizer. Finally that backfired, and Papaji gave his consent and the Roka happened after that drama. Simi went ahead with her private pheres with Abhi because she believed all is going to be fine.

23. Her plans shattered when Neetu-Omi alliance came up and she put behind her love and marriage in the name of family honor. Another mean thing to do. Here again, her decision is impulsive. Simi does not think about the consequences but feels it's her responsibility all the time to save her people. Well Manju asked for it. And Simi agreed.

24. Simi gave in to Manju's demand and even tried to get Abhi hate her. Unfortunately Abhi knows her too well. He knows what Simi will do and he took it upon himself to get Simi back. Everyone is irritated by her behavior. Abhi gets almost killed. When Abhi is getting beaten up, we could Simi crying helplessly. When it went to the extent of Abhi getting killed, she could not take it any longer. Here again Simi is impulsive. When she could have very well avoided this drama, her indecisiveness caused more problems. The last minute disclosure earned her mother's wrath, and again becoming homeless following their ousting from T-mansion.

Simi has made all wrong decisions in her life in an emotional and impulsive manner.The fact has to be appreciated that

She did not have a problem roaming the streets with Abhi and sleeping on the dhaba charpai.

She was living in Omis dhaba along with Abhi

She was giving Abhi the confidence that he will find a job soon

Simi was reminding Abhi not to spend lavishly till they find a better way of living.

Simi was telling Abhi to eat on time and not to have outside food.

If they had continued that way, Simi would have got adjusted and led a life with Abhi with whatever they could manage. Unfortunately it has to be the story of 12/24 KB and so they had to return.

Abhi appreciating Simi

He likes her concern for him and asks why she is pampering him.

Abhi is willing to forgive her for leaving his romantic dinner plan when he learns that papaji was seriously ill

and her mind preoccupied with Anuj's problem.

Abhi is willing to support her to make her happy because he too felt that her dad needed them.

He has told Simi that he understands that Simi being the eldest has her family responsibilities and is not expecting her to leave everything and concentrate being with him.

Abhi is surprised and appreciates Simi saying she has a generous heart to forgive her brother who wronged her and worrying about him.

Abhi gets emotional when he learns that all Simi has to wish is for him and her family and nothing for herself.

Abhi tells Simi that it's with difficulty he can get her closer to him and requests her to tell "I love you". So even Abhi knows that Simi does not say all these and she does not come close to him easily. Abhi understands Simi wanting to be with him when the house problem was sorted because he knows she is free of worries.

Recently after the Bhalla's issue came up, Abhi never left Simi and he continued being good to her family.

Abhi has never wanted Simi to look different or change her looks.

When Abhi's boss commented about Simi looking older, he of course did not like it. He was angry at Simi turning up suddenly and colleagues commenting that his wife could not stay away from him for a short time.

May be not properly scripted, but I find it is their attempt to show that in spite of age difference and the fights, both are willing to end their tiff. Simi made a mistake hiding a secret. Though she offered explanation which will never be a correct one, Abhi was not willing to hear it out. Secrets should not be existing between couples. But in real life how many couples can claim there is not even 1% that is kept from their spouses. Put them on a lie detector.

Whoever may be right or wrong in a relationship, it would be nice if the wrong doer owns up his/her mistake. Waiting to finally prove who was right and wrong will not make any relationship work. Here again I feel that Abhi said sorry to Simi. Simi did not openly give statements.

Simi knows it was a mistake that she hid the fact. Before Abhi getting to know she is only worried about the consequences of the truth and gets nightmares.

Simi daydreaming her patch up with Abhi was telling Abhi?mujhe maaf kar do Abhi, I am sorry but he did not allow her to talk. Anger prevents a man from thinking loud and clear. Though it did not go with the initial characterization of Abhi, we did get glimpses of his temper earlier too.

Now Abhi is saying sorry. Goes to show there is no big time ego in him at 22years.

One partner has to give in each time there is a conflict. Here Abhi has been most of the times correct.

May be here we are seeing the age gap issue. Simi at 30 is stubborn and sticks to her impulsive decision. Imagine running behind Bhalla in an open market and earlier thrashing him too but advising Abhi to contain his anger. And Abhi at 22 is way more mature and flexible in mending relationships.

At least I am happy that the statements made are not 100% correct. We expect Abhi getting a job, taking Simi away and both facing society and living their life. But it is far from reality. It may not always be easy to find and maintain a job for whatever reasons. Here the qualification used for Abhi is the problem. IIM graduates do get a high paying job. Probably they want to show that parental support is necessary when it comes to mending their children's lives.

Abhi telling Simi will never have to cry if she will accept his decision is far from reality

Abhi telling Manju?Someone try hurting Simi?.no husband can keep his wife happy all the time.

Simi telling her dad on phone?I will not come home until mom calls me back. Finally the way both had to come home as an unwelcome guest.

Mili confronting Nakul was a mistake on her part. Instead of recording his speech on her phone, she openly confronted him. It's a lesson that one should learn not do that and that they have to outsmart their enemies.

Abhi pulling Mili back to Nakul's house was not the right decision. What if like during the wedding time, ten people hold onto Abhi, and then Mili is in trouble again.

Well too many queries and too many unanswered questions, too many thoughts and too many interpretations. Whatever it is going to be I will watch the show and try to take a lesson or two. And accept the fact that be it Abhi or Simi, no one is perfect. And so again my own reasons not to hate Simi or Abhi and appreciate the element of goodness in Abhi and Simi.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Very good Mesimi, Points well noted and written.

Yes they are showing as simis character as a double minded character, who does not stick to one decision but loves abhi a lot and also she does not know how to show or express her love. She thinks by expressing her love to Abhi she will be / is immature .
in the recent episode of their patch up, when she realised that he losdt his job, she felt bad and also got angry and when he said sorry to her, catching both her hands , with his eyes full of tears, she also melted out and hugged him and called him bagoothar patting him att eh back, so this also shows the love she has for him.
It doesn not mean a wife and husband should always tell sorry and thankyou in a relation ship, its understood. when a couple have an argument there are different ways of patching up.
Simi had said sorry to abhi when she realised her mistake, but abhi was not ready tp listen so she diddnt bring it up again and its the same with abhi. he realised his mistake that he should have told some one in th ehouse about he loosing his job and about mili, then the consequences would not be so severe, like the sethis getting insulted in front of every one especially the Mathurs , omi leaving neetu and going.
As of now i want simi to enter T mansion and prove her self worth for the Tarnejas and show what she can do. inspite of Mr. tarneja and Anita being against them .
I dont want simi to completely change her looks . Even if she is simple she looks very pretty and perfect for abhi.
Yes as per her character she is a very reserved person, hence she dosent talk much. compared tot he previous simi , I feel she has changed a lot, at least for ocassions she has started wearing better clothes for ocassions , be it mata ki chowki, or during Milis roka , and even during their SR she wore sari and it shows she wants to look better for abhi and is trying to also. so i feel gradually she will change her self also.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mesimi

Let me first try analyzing Abhi's reasoning for loving Simi

1. Abhi was attracted to her simplicity and he seemed to like the way Simi was praying oblivious of the surrounding. He was surprised the way she did not even turn around to look who it was who rang the bell along with her.

2. Abhi's second meeting with simi ended in a handshake and both seemed to hold to each other's hand a little while longer. Probably they wanted to show the connect between two souls even as they did not know each other.

3. The third meeting was when Simi escaped from Bhalla. Probably Abhi appreciated the fact that the woman held on to her self respect in spite of the "fiancee" matter.

4. Their fourth meeting was when he dropped her to the police station. Abhi tried to make her smile because he just sympathized with what she must be going through.

5. Their Qutb Minar meeting - Abhi and Simi never even knew each other's names. Still he was worried that she is marrying a man in spite of not being her choice since she already told him that decisions are not always made for oneself but for other's sake. We got to see Abhi surprised and may be appreciating the fact that Simi puts behind her happiness when it comes to her family.

This led to Abhi investigating about Bhalla and going to the extent of disclosing about Bhalla in spite of Simi's non cooperation.

6. Abhi went ahead meeting her in college, bringing out the little girl in Simi, gifting her, making her also get a little naughty by bunking class, enjoyed the way she was enjoying chat without inhibitions. Probably he realized Simi has always subdued her emotions being the older sibling to her sibs. Abhi could understand over phone that she was feeling low and hence that overnight conversation where he made Simi talk a lot about herself.

7. He liked her concern when she told him to travel next day since he did not sleep that night.

8. After meeting Guruji, he felt there was more to it than a friendship with Simi though he seemed not to realize what his feelings were for Simi.

9. Abhi was clearly appreciating Simi's concern and prayers to Matarani when he calls her.

10. Abhi might have slowly understood and moved ahead with his feelings for Simi. In the park when Simi calls herself old and fat, Abhi was the one who told her they have been roaming around for a while, they have been close enough to talk overnight, that she is not fat and old and he told her that she is quite attractive, smart and that he likes her. Her sudden reaction that it is not love, Isn't it took him by surprise.

11. Abhi seemed to be irritated by the fact that Simi is worrying that she was rejected by that Sharma guy and was angry when she was sarcastically telling him to find a guy for her just like all others are doing.

12. The decision was made by Abhi when Simi called to tell that Bhalla threatened her and also gave her an inclination that he has decided something and after which she will not have to cry in front of anyone.

13. Abhi felt Simi is dependant on him and for all that she has gone through he wanted to give her the best of a life and he decided it would be their life together.

14. Abhi was compelled to just seek friendship for reasons he stated to Guruji about a job, house and security and the age factor and Simi's reaction or feelings for him.

15. Till here we got to see that Simi is also yearning for genuine love and hoping she will meet her prince charming.

16. Abhi confessing to Simi that he loved her could have been shown after one or two episodes where they discuss their feelings for each other. But it's a fact that it was not done.

17. Nakul came into the picture. When she was bothering about what could be done about Neetu, she pushed aside Abhi's worry about Nakul being a better suitor for her than himself. Having been rejected multiple times, she was not actually worried and told Abhi not to worry since chances are high that Nakul will reject her. According to Simi, it was a plain proposal and did not expect Nakul and daadi's intention for Omi-Neetu and hence a possible yes from Nakul.

18. Here onwards we have Simi surrounded by problems?.Nitu getting pregnant, and AnujAnita leaving home. She as an elder sister decided what the best solution out was for Neetu and compelled her for a termination of pregnancy. Here Simi's concern was avoiding the pain for her parents when they get to know about Neetu. Though incorrect, her intention was to avoid trouble and the shame for her family. Simi is not shown as the one who makes decision after much thoughtful contemplation. It has always been impulsive.

19. When it was her mother taunting her for being unmarried, she decided whoever it was irrespective of what a loser he was, she just went by her impulsive decision to get herself out of the "unmarried" status. Though her father is supportive, as declared by her own dad prior to Roka, Simi has always looked forward to an approval from Manju and was always bent upon pleasing her. So here again in Neetu's case, her decision is for the sake of family. But she hardly realized she is alienating her own sister from her.

20. Her next problem troubling her was Anuj leaving home and her mother Manju literally throwing tantrums and threatening of consequences if Anuj did not return home.

21. Her papaji had promised Abhi that he would get anything in return if he would manage to get the shop opened for papaji. Simi has actually banked on that issue. When her dad accepts the proposal from Daadi at Nakul's home, she is actually getting worried at the turn of events. When her dad asks her to decide, Simi tells her dad thet she will decide by that Saturday because she knew Abhi had managed the papers toget the shop open and when Abhi would ask for her hand in marriage,papaji would accept. So she decided she can push Nakul's issue till Saturday. Simi was never shown to be the girl who speaks her mind out. Even after Simi was asked several times, instead of telling her dad that she loved Abhi, she waited for Abhi to seek her hand officially. Simi has been like this, thanks to her mother's taunts all the time.

22. But unfortunately with Anita brainwashing her, she got worried about Anuj and her mother's separation. So going by her usual behavior, she put aside her happiness with Abhi and forced him to ask Anita-Anuj's return. Knowing fully well how adamant Abhi is, she decided to insult him so that he will not ask what he came for. It was the most demeaning thing to do. But that's how Simi is, her priorities are different. When Abhi leaves her that goodbye note, she cries out to Mili that she loves Abhi and he had actually come to ask her hand in marriage. But thanks to Mili, with that unfortunate electrocution scene (the sad day in KB), they patch up. And when Abhi insists that he is going to meet her dad, she agrees. She had happily returned home along with Abhi that day after their little romance in the park but was soon surrounded by Anita's plan to demean Abhi as a womanizer. Finally that backfired, and Papaji gave his consent and the Roka happened after that drama. Simi went ahead with her private pheres with Abhi because she believed all is going to be fine.

23. Her plans shattered when Neetu-Omi alliance came up and she put behind her love and marriage in the name of family honor. Another mean thing to do. Here again, her decision is impulsive. Simi does not think about the consequences but feels it's her responsibility all the time to save her people. Well Manju asked for it. And Simi agreed.

24. Simi gave in to Manju's demand and even tried to get Abhi hate her. Unfortunately Abhi knows her too well. He knows what Simi will do and he took it upon himself to get Simi back. Everyone is irritated by her behavior. Abhi gets almost killed. When Abhi is getting beaten up, we could Simi crying helplessly. When it went to the extent of Abhi getting killed, she could not take it any longer. Here again Simi is impulsive. When she could have very well avoided this drama, her indecisiveness caused more problems. The last minute disclosure earned her mother's wrath, and again becoming homeless following their ousting from T-mansion.

Simi has made all wrong decisions in her life in an emotional and impulsive manner.The fact has to be appreciated that

She did not have a problem roaming the streets with Abhi and sleeping on the dhaba charpai.

She was living in Omis dhaba along with Abhi

She was giving Abhi the confidence that he will find a job soon

Simi was reminding Abhi not to spend lavishly till they find a better way of living.

Simi was telling Abhi to eat on time and not to have outside food.

If they had continued that way, Simi would have got adjusted and led a life with Abhi with whatever they could manage. Unfortunately it has to be the story of 12/24 KB and so they had to return.

Abhi appreciating Simi

He likes her concern for him and asks why she is pampering him.

Abhi is willing to forgive her for leaving his romantic dinner plan when he learns that papaji was seriously ill

and her mind preoccupied with Anuj's problem.

Abhi is willing to support her to make her happy because he too felt that her dad needed them.

He has told Simi that he understands that Simi being the eldest has her family responsibilities and is not expecting her to leave everything and concentrate being with him.

Abhi is surprised and appreciates Simi saying she has a generous heart to forgive her brother who wronged her and worrying about him.

Abhi gets emotional when he learns that all Simi has to wish is for him and her family and nothing for herself.

Abhi tells Simi that it's with difficulty he can get her closer to him and requests her to tell "I love you". So even Abhi knows that Simi does not say all these and she does not come close to him easily. Abhi understands Simi wanting to be with him when the house problem was sorted because he knows she is free of worries.

Recently after the Bhalla's issue came up, Abhi never left Simi and he continued being good to her family.

Abhi has never wanted Simi to look different or change her looks.

When Abhi's boss commented about Simi looking older, he of course did not like it. He was angry at Simi turning up suddenly and colleagues commenting that his wife could not stay away from him for a short time.

May be not properly scripted, but I find it is their attempt to show that in spite of age difference and the fights, both are willing to end their tiff. Simi made a mistake hiding a secret. Though she offered explanation which will never be a correct one, Abhi was not willing to hear it out. Secrets should not be existing between couples. But in real life how many couples can claim there is not even 1% that is kept from their spouses. Put them on a lie detector.

Whoever may be right or wrong in a relationship, it would be nice if the wrong doer owns up his/her mistake. Waiting to finally prove who was right and wrong will not make any relationship work. Here again I feel that Abhi said sorry to Simi. Simi did not openly give statements.

Simi knows it was a mistake that she hid the fact. Before Abhi getting to know she is only worried about the consequences of the truth and gets nightmares.

Simi daydreaming her patch up with Abhi was telling Abhi?mujhe maaf kar do Abhi, I am sorry but he did not allow her to talk. Anger prevents a man from thinking loud and clear. Though it did not go with the initial characterization of Abhi, we did get glimpses of his temper earlier too.

Now Abhi is saying sorry. Goes to show there is no big time ego in him at 22years.

One partner has to give in each time there is a conflict. Here Abhi has been most of the times correct.

May be here we are seeing the age gap issue. Simi at 30 is stubborn and sticks to her impulsive decision. Imagine running behind Bhalla in an open market and earlier thrashing him too but advising Abhi to contain his anger. And Abhi at 22 is way more mature and flexible in mending relationships.

At least I am happy that the statements made are not 100% correct. We expect Abhi getting a job, taking Simi away and both facing society and living their life. But it is far from reality. It may not always be easy to find and maintain a job for whatever reasons. Here the qualification used for Abhi is the problem. IIM graduates do get a high paying job. Probably they want to show that parental support is necessary when it comes to mending their children's lives.

Abhi telling Simi will never have to cry if she will accept his decision is far from reality

Abhi telling Manju?Someone try hurting Simi?.no husband can keep his wife happy all the time.

Simi telling her dad on phone?I will not come home until mom calls me back. Finally the way both had to come home as an unwelcome guest.

Mili confronting Nakul was a mistake on her part. Instead of recording his speech on her phone, she openly confronted him. It's a lesson that one should learn not do that and that they have to outsmart their enemies.

Abhi pulling Mili back to Nakul's house was not the right decision. What if like during the wedding time, ten people hold onto Abhi, and then Mili is in trouble again.

Well too many queries and too many unanswered questions, too many thoughts and too many interpretations. Whatever it is going to be I will watch the show and try to take a lesson or two. And accept the fact that be it Abhi or Simi, no one is perfect. And so again my own reasons not to hate Simi or Abhi and appreciate the element of goodness in Abhi and Sim



Mesimi your distinguished ideas about certain events were excellently written and defined the turmoil going through Simi's mind..Just simply put magnificent work in depicting them

Now with the points from 1st to 9th we see Simi as the rejected ,disliked disdain and with a very low self esteem...BUT lucky in the love department because her Valentine has arrived and she does not know it .

From the point 15 Simi is yearning for her true love...

In the 17 -21 her illogical and sacrificial personality takes over again and she becomes this super woman again to take care of her siblings and OBEY her mother regardless of what is important for her own happiness or even the consequences of her actions...

23 again here she goes on her high horse and haughty attitude to save the family honor having no regards for the outcome or even rationally regrouping with the one person who is on her side her papaji.. or contemplating the consequences....

24. Trying in the failed cause of Abhi to hate her...why??so she could marry Nakul....and finally the drama ended with her admittance of the fact that Abhi is her husband......in a very nick of time??

I completely agree with you in these scenarios and the lack of the creative's to show us the romance from both sides and not just from this 22years side only...Having not watched the serial from the very beginning does puts me at a disadvantage on certain facts but one thing is painfully obvious from your writing the points here that is the STORY WAS WEAK IN THE BEGINNING AND IMPERFECT to show the romance for this couple here because it just wasn't written for both the characters in mind and that is just my perspective and ONLY my angle*

Now the points put forth by you on Simi's behalf are all brilliant points and I give carte blanche to them...

Simi is trying to do just that and in her own ways...

It is very obvious that you took the trouble to bring the character of Simi Tarneja in such a painstaking and meticulous way and this took a lot of time on your part and is done appealingly...

May be not properly scripted, but I find it is their attempt to show that in spite of age difference and the fights, both are willing to end their tiff.


A very complex and controversial topic to show and even harder to show the outcome and the struggles of 22year old and the 30year old . So the saga continues and now they are going on this new venture to the newer horizons...and we the loyal fans await....??😍


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Thanks Sree for adding your thoughts.
And Thanks Sanico,
It is a fact that the show started with a bang bringing up society and the problems whatsoever.
Abhi ansd Simi were not supposed to be explored the way it is today. Where the path deviated from original script is not sure. Because having traced the number of days on Karol Bagh based on their own dialogues, Abhi's love for Simi is declared within 8 days of knowing her.
You may see this link
The story lost its original charm, the show we actually fell in love with. The writers, producers,directors...whom do we blame here that the characters were taken forward according to their own frame of mind. But as a viewer I am trying to give them the benifit of doubt. Whoever writes I hope is still writing based on the concept that Abhi and Simi are soulmates and in spite of age difference, they are very much in love and willing to take on the world. From the direction gone astray I think they are in the process of getting it back on track but unfortuantely the patch work is too evident due to lack of depth in each character.
But since i watch the show with passion because this is my first television series of my life(and hopefully the last), I try and reason out and attempt finding ways of appreciating the goodness of characters Simi and Abhi which was originally intended.
Edited by mesimi - 15 years ago
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MeSimi, Sounds to me you are desperately trying to find something inspire you to justify what has happened in the show when in fact the creator the show himself felt that the crux of the reasons why Abhi fell in love with Simi went missing from the show and walked out. I read his wall - it was very intense as to how he felt. The rest he discussed with me because he read my comments on my Facebook wall.
I thought he'd be bad and was STUNNED when he responded the way he did. I was shocked since I was forbidden to express those views here. My take on the show was SPOT ON!
The first 16 reasons are reasons for liking someone but not a reason to love someone. Had the writers built on these 16 reasons and given us 16 plus more events, a romance could have bloosomed.

I really see you're trying very hard to ignore how you felt so disappointed with the Abhi-Simi track and are trying hard to be optimisitc and postiive. My only concern is how you will feel when you are disappointed again.
Nice try - they are your views and I could argue each one but with the way the track is going - I will let the CVs do that for you 😉
Edited by Laila2009 - 15 years ago
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great amazing post . 👏👏 I will add my input after reading it few times when I feel better.
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

MeSimi, Sounds to me you are desperately trying to find something inspire you to justify what has happened in the show when in fact the creator the show himself felt that the crux of the reasons why Abhi fell in love with Simi went missing from the show and walked out. I read his wall - it was very intense as to how he felt. The rest he discussed with me because he read my comments on my Facebook wall.

I thought he'd be bad and was STUNNED when he responded the way he did. I was shocked since I was forbidden to express those views here. My take on the show was SPOT ON!
The first 16 reasons are reasons for liking someone but not a reason to love someone. Had the writers built on these 16 reasons and given us 16 plus more events, a romance could have bloosomed.

I really see you're trying very hard to ignore how you felt so disappointed with the Abhi-Simi track and are trying hard to be optimisitc and postiive. My only concern is how you will feel when you are disappointed again.
Nice try - they are your views and I could argue each one but with the way the track is going - I will let the CVs do that for you 😉

I am not denying the fact that story went for a toss. I am optimistic and i dont plan to give up so easily.
Edited by mesimi - 15 years ago
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Suberb Mesimi, you have put all the points perfectly.....

Simi has been brought up as a very responsible person who was in charge of handling all three of her siblings whenever Manju was incapable of handling any situation. Simi is a very reserved and introverted person. She has never been able to show her emotions to anyone except her father. She has always been expected to be the one to handle all situations that are big and small in the house. Now if you take this type of girl and expect her to show her affection for the man she loves it is never going to happen.

Simi happens to love Abhi very much more than we can imagine. The only difference between her love and Abhi's love is Abhi know how to express his love to her and she does not know how to show how much she loves Abhi. It is not to say that she loves Abhi any less. Infact I happen to think she and Abhi have the same amount of love for each other and that their love is the most unique type of love. They are both extremely commited to each other and would anything for each others happiness. What we feel should be a sigh of love is not necessary the same for everyone else.

If we expect to be shown love like we show it we are going to be disappointed always. Simi and Abhi have a love that does not require a constant show of affection or even say the words " I love you" always. They speak volumes with their eyes and the way they interact with each other. Yes there are times that they have a fight but what couple out there has not experienced that? Isn't it said that fighting every once in a while makes the love stronger. There love is made to last and not to be forgotten by anyone.
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Originally posted by: mesimi

I am not denying the fact that story went for a toss. I am optimistic and i dont plan to give up so easily.

You still have hope after one year for an improvement when no-one listened to the original writer? Is that not being in a state of denial MeSimi? Why not just watch the show for the sake of watching it and having a good laugh? Don't take it all too seriously.
By the way that is an awfully large size font you're using to respond to me - I can read the fine fonts just as well😛
Edited by Laila2009 - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mesimi

I am not denying the fact that story went for a toss. I am optimistic and i dont plan to give up so easily.

mesimi I am also very optimistic as they are taking our suggestions and trying to provide the story we wnat and I am not going to give up on them. Every serial and best ones even goes thru such phases that includes the most watched number one serial as well
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I am here for the issue and reality of the story. It might deviate from the real issue for a while but then they come back to the real issue the story was based on and that is older woman younger man.
Besides this is not only the story for abhi simi but the sethi parivar so to show certain events they may have to show abhi simi in certain light some times.
Ppl change with what is happening to them and even the calmest person explode when it gets too much to handle. Abhi at his age is acting normally. They are the one who started him as a superman and then brought him down to a loser which was the horrible thing to do, But I think circumstances and pressure he was put in any normal much older person whould have reacted same way. Abhi is also naive compare to Bhalla Nakul they are both much mature cunning men with lot more experience in real life dealing with all kinds of ppl .
where as abhi has just started his life and have no experience with how sick kniving ppl like Nakul and Bhalla.
So I see nothing wrong with the way abhi acting. I have a 21 year old son and I can see first hand how he reacts under pressure and when he is upset with ppl.
So there was nothing wrong when abhi was shown that way.
Abhi is starting to experience real life now up until he was an idealistic person who perceive the world the way he is like every one is good and he can handle every thing.
But now he is faced with reality of the world and many 2 face people even at home front and beyond like Mr. T anita, Nakul and bhalla.
So I am not blaming CVS for showing abhi this way at alll. Yes they should now have shown him superman to begin with. But even that is not wrong to show how man his as perceive themselves and the real world until they start dealing with a reality and how they crumble.
Yes we all are disappointed thinking abhi's chracter is ruined.
But it is not. Even though I have one child I have seen 100's of this age boys as my huby is a professor and tutor and I also work with this age group on and off basis as sub in college trust me I talk to most of them and exactly know how this age man and woman react under pressure and when they are stressed out
Abhi shown as superman as that is how this age man think of themselves and abhi exploded under so much stress both of the portrayals are very realistic. in my view.
We may feel very bad as a viewers but that does not change the fact that abhi is a 22 year old man who is acting his age. going thru life and learning from the mistake he made.
I will come back to simi in another post.
Edited by ramas - 15 years ago

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