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EDITED : My views have changed now , but thanks everyone for participation :)

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Harry Potter. Here, we all are true Harry Potter fans like you. Make yourself comfortable and feel free to post comments and take part in the discussions.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Welcome to the HP Forum. :) You are very welcome to share whatever views you have here.
Though I don't agree with all of them, I totally understand where you're coming from. Ron is one of my fav characters, so I don't agree that Romione's relationship will be abusive, but I can see where your thought process is coming from and why you may feel that way. I'm really sorry to hear that you yourself were in an abusive relationship. That's really tough. :(
But keep in mind that JKR herself was suffering from a tough divorce to a man she thought she had loved and being a single mother when she began the series, so she is not completely oblivious to how things are in the real world as some authors are. She made Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione together because she liked them as couples. Half the HP fans love those shippings to tears while half hate them with a passion. Even if she had put them with someone else, half her fans would have been disappointed with what she'd done either way. It is very hard for an author to please every single one of her fans, almost impossible, so in such times what an author should do is write what she wants and hope at least half her fans are happy with what she did. And that's exactly what JKR did. The reasons she gives in interviews why the couples are good for each other are not facts, but the reasons why SHE herself likes them and so people can understand where she's coming from.
I know people with sweethearts in High School often don't end up with each other, but I know plenty of people who do. My own best friend's parents were sweethearts in High School, never dated anyone else, and married right out of college. They're still together and have a happy marriage. And another of my classmates' parents were sweethearts in High school as well. And also, my own two classmates in High School got engaged and stayed engaged throughout college. They plan to get married right out of it. If someone finds their true love in HS, it is not unrealistic for them to get married.
If someone dislikes the character of Ron, as in your case, it would be very hard to like the Romione shipping, but that's totally fine. No one is forced to like the shippings if they don't want to, but what I don't understand is...why do you find it laughable if people do? Is everyone supposed to hate them in your opinion?
Anyhow, welcome to the forum! Hope you'll like it here. :)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As for the ending, Slytherins are just as biased as Gryffindors. The story is about Gryffindors so we only see their side of the story, but Slytherins ain't so innocent themselves. And 'all is well' is written to symbolize that for now, things are peaceful considering what they all suffered during the war. It does not imply that they are living happily ever after or that they are not aware that another evil could come, but that relatively, everything is fine.
Evil will always come. No one can stop if from coming forever, but the important thing is to face it bravely when it does. That is the underlying message of HP. Also, no one can ever quite eradicate racism or descrimination, so to rid Hogwarts of the sorting, which was there for hundreds of years, is not something which they would be able to do in 19 mere years. It would take time, and they would need the public's support as well.
Personally, my favorite book is DH so I can't quite relate with you about your opinions, but I can see where you're coming from .😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey Pratibha! Welcome to the forum! Hope you like it here :)
I agree with LJ completely. I respect that your opinion is your opinion, but I don't think it is laughable that people here love Ron and Hermione. People's thoughts do differ after all :) And also very sorry to hear about those relationships :( It must have been extremely hard.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Aish and LJ are right. People don't always end up with the ones the ones they have a crush on....but that happened with Ron and Hermione. I think that their relationship was well described in the book...love how they felt for each other. Views after all, have to differ...or they won't be called views.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi Pratibha ,
First off Welcome to the Forum!
Second, much like the comments already expressed here, I am also one who liked DH and although the epiloguge was a bit irritating, because much like you I found it "too perfect" , I however don't necessarily disagree with the sentiments conveyed in it.
I like the Ron Hermoine pairing. I've seen it develop from book one, and I can't say for certain that the relationship would have turned into an abusive one. (This is meant in no way to trivialise your own personal experinces) Abusive on whose part? Ron against Hermoine? or Hermoine against Ron? Because as far as I could tell, Ron may be the "tough talker" with his insults and comebacks, but I think that Hermoine is a strong enough girl\woman to know that when someone is not treating her as she should, she whould demand that respect. She did it with Malfoy in POA. Further who is not to say that Hermoine wouldn't have been the one to turn abusive. She set some canary birds on Ron once in HBP in a malicious attempt to hurt him. I'm just saying that looking at a few pages of the epi. cannot give any definitive conclusion that an abusive relationship existed.
As with the "reality" that High School sweethearts ending up together. - I think she can't look at it from that perspective. Normal High School students only have their grades, and parents to worry about and by the time they are 18 barely know themselves or their purpose in life. They are now strating to figure these things out. Compared with your HP characters, who by the time they are 18, they have faced a lifetime ofproblems that have forced them to mature well beyond their years, so , to me, it is entirely plausible that Ginny and Harry and Ron and Hermoine should know that they are meant to be together.
Finally as with the "all is well" ending, I don't believe that it meant that everything is sunshine and daisies and all is perfect in the world. I can decribe my life now by saying all is well, even though I like everyone else has a myraid of problems to deal with. But I do have my health and my family, I have food to eat and a place to sleep. Much like the HP characters who have family and friends to love, a relatively safe life etc. There exists the possibility of evil in the future, but why dwell on it on the day that you see your children off to school? So at that point in time All was well for Harry and gang.
Anyways these are just my take on the issues you presented, but I have a question - do you dislike the ENTIRE of DH or just teh final scene. Would you have preferred it to have ended after Harry went to bed that night. - I know I would have, but I don't detest the epi. just mildly irritated by it. :)
I meant nothing in here as offensive so please don't take it as such and Thank you - its been a long time since I wrote such a long discussion post on the HP forum so thanks for starting the topic - even though you meant it as a place to vent ;P)
Posted: 15 years ago
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@Shellyt....love the siggie quote of yours.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: shellytt

Finally as with the "all is well" ending, I don't believe that it meant that everything is sunshine and daisies and all is perfect in the world. I can decribe my life now by saying all is well, even though I like everyone else has a myraid of problems to deal with. But I do have my health and my family, I have food to eat and a place to sleep. Much like the HP characters who have family and friends to love, a relatively safe life etc. There exists the possibility of evil in the future, but why dwell on it on the day that you see your children off to school? So at that point in time All was well for Harry and gang.

Wow, really LOVE this part of your post Shelly.👏 Really well said. I agree. I too would describe my life right now as 'All is Well', but that does not mean I do not have my own share of problems and obstacles to overcome. It just means that I am happy with what I have. Especially in Harry's case, considering what he went through during his childhood, he now has a family, loving home, good job, etc, so I think he said 'All is Well' to describe that.
I too did not like the Epilogue much, but I did not hate it. I just thought of it as another chapter in the book. There have been many chapters in the series I did not like, yet I do not dwell on why I did not like those particular chapters. Likewise, what JKR called the Epilogue, I considered it another mere chapter and though I did not like it too much, I did not mind it either.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shelly really well said. I too was a tad irritated by the epliogue, I was only hoping for a little more.

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