Comment about 3rd semi's Shaan Vs Shankar Match - Page 15

Originally posted by: navaneeta

Shaan's POV was ethical and honest ....

- A duet (in a competition) has to be duet where both the singer get to sing lines properly ....

- Captain coming in each round and singing actually brings down morale of the other upcoming singers .... if they are marked against captains, irrespective of what they sang ... they will not be judged on fair ground ....

Winning is important ... but using unfair means and underestimating own's team singers and captain singing songs and not giving members chance makes the show very bad .....

There is no POV of judge ..... they were very much AGAINST Shaan ....

In duet ... 5 marks should be for male and 5 marks for female .. maybe Rahul gets full 5 for his good performance, but Neeti should not get full 5 or even 4 for her part ... right ... so net net even if Rahul gets 5 and Neet gets max to max 2.5 ... so 7.5 should be the score ... which was exactly the avg by audience .....

very well said, mate!

Originally posted by: navaneeta

Shaan's POV was ethical and honest ....

- A duet (in a competition) has to be duet where both the singer get to sing lines properly ....

- Captain coming in each round and singing actually brings down morale of the other upcoming singers .... if they are marked against captains, irrespective of what they sang ... they will not be judged on fair ground ....

Winning is important ... but using unfair means and underestimating own's team singers and captain singing songs and not giving members chance makes the show very bad .....

There is no POV of judge ..... they were very much AGAINST Shaan ....

In duet ... 5 marks should be for male and 5 marks for female .. maybe Rahul gets full 5 for his good performance, but Neeti should not get full 5 or even 4 for her part ... right ... so net net even if Rahul gets 5 and Neet gets max to max 2.5 ... so 7.5 should be the score ... which was exactly the avg by audience .....

- Shreya said that there are definitely certain duets where the female gets hardly two lines..
- even in two lines sung by singer, you can easily judge his / her capability in singing
- they were not against shaan, they did not approve of the behaviour depicted by shaan and also that rahul's performance and cover-up was flaw-less which motivated them to give marks.. they are experianced, well-versed people, if they kept their POV and gave 9 points, they definitely must have had a strong reason for that.. they are not biased towards any one, it is their own collective opinion and as judges, they have a right to have so..
- yes, shaan was right to bring his POV, but the method was not at all decent, it destroyed the tempo and mood of the whole musical saga..
- its best to forget this fight and hope for a better show without such fights.. where music rules the day, not anger..

Originally posted by: navaneeta

Shaan's POV was ethical and honest ....

- A duet (in a competition) has to be duet where both the singer get to sing lines properly ....

- Captain coming in each round and singing actually brings down morale of the other upcoming singers .... if they are marked against captains, irrespective of what they sang ... they will not be judged on fair ground ....

Winning is important ... but using unfair means and underestimating own's team singers and captain singing songs and not giving members chance makes the show very bad .....

There is no POV of judge ..... they were very much AGAINST Shaan ....

In duet ... 5 marks should be for male and 5 marks for female .. maybe Rahul gets full 5 for his good performance, but Neeti should not get full 5 or even 4 for her part ... right ... so net net even if Rahul gets 5 and Neet gets max to max 2.5 ... so 7.5 should be the score ... which was exactly the avg by audience .....

ya w/o any abusive lang u made ur point correct,well said..peolpe pl follow d rules of forum..dont bas grt singers in abusive words..just give ur thoughts in a healthy discussion wat u felt for shaan vs shankar match.no abusive lang in my thread..
god bless shaan strikers..

Guys really too scared today lot of members, new members with a new ID who joined today,many of them came in this forum and in a lot of other websites peolpes r questioning about injustice happend with Shaan Strikers..Happy to see peoples r supporting truth..
Amul Shaan's Strikers Rocks..

shaan is best capiton . i m with him because his desicion is very good. he fought for his team. i love his singing okkkk shaan u was right

Originally posted by: somone999

- Shreya said that there are definitely certain duets where the female gets hardly two lines..
- even in two lines sung by singer, you can easily judge his / her capability in singing
- they were not against shaan, they did not approve of the behaviour depicted by shaan and also that rahul's performance and cover-up was flaw-less which motivated them to give marks.. they are experianced, well-versed people, if they kept their POV and gave 9 points, they definitely must have had a strong reason for that.. they are not biased towards any one, it is their own collective opinion and as judges, they have a right to have so..
- yes, shaan was right to bring his POV, but the method was not at all decent, it destroyed the tempo and mood of the whole musical saga..
- its best to forget this fight and hope for a better show without such fights.. where music rules the day, not anger..

okay u dint see his decent way to explain at the very first infact he dint want to say anything on that point..but himesh made and forced him to say..he said politely,but all judges with tantic way giving the reply as for ur opinion shreya too felt her mistake today and she too upset for her behaviour towards shaan..we all r not fool to see how judges r so against shaan..Ur words like that Mika was in decent way..All judges r wrong in thier way,while some old man said batting not important,sangeet,that time said shankarji wah wah..its looks very uncomfortable comments who is a grt music director,infact shreya,mika giving thumsup and salut and thy dint even tried to und wat shaan wants to say,with that Mika screaming noone can be controlled..IN National Tv Mika is screaming and giving his point which is really wont say that kind of words by any otherjudge in Any reality show..Shaan's behaviour too looks in a very justice way,shaan gaved best reply to all..Now Mika has understood his position,shreya felt today lot by seeing the telecast show today how she behaved this much against shaan and she said 2dy her mistake ,she upset..Am a grt fan of shreya,,so pl if ur a fan too support truth ,if u too thr means u may be like that in d way shaan did..his outburst of unfairness from begining showed wen he going to ask audience in a angry way..he cant be mum,after all we all know wat happened to shaan by judges,shankarji manymore..

Originally posted by: george eliot

Shaan's anger was sparked when he saw his colleagues stooping beyond their stature.

Shaan was expecting a more righteous stand from the rest of the judges including Shankarji, operating under the impression that they are the mentors and idols for the competitors and hence should guide them properly instead of covering up their fault.
Shaan himself has done it many times: he has criticised his own team members when their performance was not upto the mark---he did it for Harshit too this time, telling him where exactly he went wrong. What angered Shaan was the judges shamelessly deviating from the roles of mentors and stooping low for the sake of competition. I have noticed Shaan never supports average performance of his own team, critiques bad performance of other teams and always applauds good performances from other teams too.

Shaan was angered because as mentors they are not expected to do such petty acts for the sake of personal vengeance. His POV is clear in two statements he made:

1. To Shankarji: "If I were you I would not have supported this."
2. To the rest of the judges: " I want somebody to own up honestly what happened here"

which Mohit did to some extent.

It's not a matter of points or winning, it's what they are doing as the mentors ('marg darshak') or guides for the new singers that infuriated Shaan .

Very well said...i agreed with ur points..👏

How can Shankarji sing 3 times, what about his team. He himself is not his team. His job here is to train his team members. This is pathetic. How can Shreya, Mika and Himesh support Shankarji inspite of everythinfg that happened. Neeti Mohan forgot the song she should have been disqualified. Shankarji used his reputation to get his team to win.