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Posted: 15 years ago
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Wow! Deception?! Resentment?! That's rather intense i.e. not commensurate with the degree of the crime . . .

i know im sad for taking a soap so seriously! but I only do intense...nothing in half-measures! 😊 yes the therapy is on ' im on the couch atleast 4 times a week and usually twice a day! 😆

when he professed to being 22, his demeanor afterwards did not suggest a pre-pubescent boy (not to me anyhow although his self disparagement was a bit weeeured) . . .

My issues with the inconsistencies in his character begin when he starts to act all un-Abhi-like with the appearance of his first real rival... so what if the guy seems like the perfect prospect for Simi, she has already said she's in love with him! It reeks more of an ego trip than first true love! Did he see himself as her saviour and knight in shining armour who will take away all her troubles, and that image is rudely shattered by none other than the guy who taught him how to ride a bike? To behave like his chances with her have taken a nose-dive, with the appearance of the first eligible bachelor, is not the way a confident, grounded 22 yr old man would act. It makes him appear sorry and insecure, so far removed from the man who looked down calmly at Rajiv Bhalla as the later fidgeted, it could've been another person altogether! It is suggestive of the fact that his earlier confidence was a reflection of his certainty of superiority over RB and not wihin himself ... so is he feeling inferior pitched against this better(?) person since he knows Nakul better than any of us? Implies weakness of character to me ... and superman's not allowed that!! Nah-uh!

how did I miss out on the relationship with the distaff side of the family

Im suprised you did to! Especially since you watch the show twice too ... You should go back n watch it then... the links are in the archive section...To summarise ... dad pronunces him "super man" when he arrives and says he knew his son would come because when ever somethigns wrong abhi always appears (im cringing too)... the last time it was when mom went into depression and this time its to help his sister... when brother n sister meet in her barbie-doll room,it is said plenty of times that she's counting on him to sort this like he does everything else...and then after shes gone off to Anuj's theres a scene where mum brings him food and tells him to do something because he's the only one who can do something!

Men simply aren't going to take a giant leap - a la Neil Armstrong - between 22 and 24/25 in their maturity level . . . it's more reasonable to think that if he was a mature 24/25 yr fella then he was mature at 22 as well . . . which makes the change in age largely moot . . . for me

Neil(!) Armstrong! ...haha... Like I've said already, had he been 22 from the start that was fine... but you can't have him change his (perceived!) age and the way he acts in one go and not get a reaction unless of course all the viewers are: "incongruously accepting of foibles . . .so, conceivably, able to go along with what comes next!"

Edited by belledejour - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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yes the therapy is on ' im on the couch atleast 4 times a week and usually twice a day!
If it's anything like me i.e. being on the couch as a potato, you're A-OK in my books, a gal after my own heart, a kindred spirit! 😊
but I only do intense...nothing in half-measures!
Wow . . . say, belledejour (why not belle d'anee . . . year round?) . . . you know me from somewhere? If what you've said isn't a lighthearted comment, it would describe me pretty well . . . in complete opposition to my zany on-line presence, I pursue things only if intensity is the central tenet . . . well . . . mostly . . . I don't get carried away like that where my job is concerned 😊
Did he see himself as her saviour and knight in shining armour who will take away all her troubles, and that image is rudely shattered by none other than the guy who taught him how to ride a bike?
OK . . . how should things play out then . . . if he's completely placid and serene about this, how does tension get created? I still maintain that his behavior stems from anger and frustration . . . something like . . . "just when everything was beginning to look peachy-keen this clown shows up (grimy, greasy, a tika'd forehead . . . in broad daylight! steel container of Dadi-made mithai under his arm . . . yuck!!) . . . aside: since I'v only seen a synopsis of this episode, how does the mithai get carried in? Does it suddenly make it's appearance out of thin air?!! Now I've got to go figure out how to get out of this mess! Great! She won't even let me announce our relationship!! that would at least nip this idiocy in the bud! Aaaarggggghhhh!"
Seriously, who would want to waste their energy putting out stupid fires?!
pitched against this better(?) person since he knows Nakul better than any of us?
Whoa . . . hold your horses . . . right there!! He'll consider Nakul a 'better person' precisely one microsecond after hell freezes over!! He's compelled to mouth all the rubbish (which I have yet to hear) to deflect any knowledge of Simi's & his relationship . . . I mean . . . he's between a rock and a hard place . . . what . . . he's going to say "Well . . . I dunno . . he's not a scumbag but . . . those beady eyes . . . I dunno"?!!
Ya, sure, that'll go over real well!
I maintain that these extraneous Dadi and Dagar persons are superfluous . . . meaningless on the macro-scale . . . and they're just causing needless heartache all around . . . Simi, Abhi, all of us passionate devoted viewers . . . here's how I plan to deep-six 'em:
Dadi has a relapse of whatever ailed her before and will be set on the Dagar (get it? 😉 ) straight up to the pearly white gates of heaven, where she will be scared witless when she meets up with St. Peter. . . y'know she being Hindu and all that!! 😆
Getting Nakul thrown out on his sorry behind becomes trivial . . . a piece of cake . . . Here's how it goes:
Abhi's got to put his foot down during one of their dusk to midnight trysts on the terrace (it would be dusk to pre-dawn, but Simi, at least has to get some zzzz's so as to be cogent at work the next day 😊)
Abhi to Simi (super serious, super stern): Simi, no ifs, ands, or buts . . . you've got to get rid of this guy . . . today! savvy?!!'
Simi: I have to?!!! How do I do that?!!! Abhi . . . I don't know . . .
Abhi (in louder frustrated tones): What . . . you actually want to marry that greasy grimey etc etc fellow?!!
Simi (miffed): I won't dignify that with a response . . .
Abhi: OK . . . OK . . . sorry . . . now, listen up . . . you have to get your Dad to ask Nakul to take you out tomorrow evening [aside: too much of a stretch of imagination to get Nakul to initiate this] . . . you had best not engage him in any lively conversation (I'll be watching you two) and look utterly miserable insead . . . if the fella has anything between his ears, this should prompt him into saying 'you don't want this . . . do you? This isn't working for you . . . am I right?" You have to agree and then ask him to help you out . . . because he's such a gentleman, he cannot refuse . . . this would pacify the folks at home and assuage hurt feelings . . . Step 1: "Nakul, if I tell mum&dad that this is not the thing for me, there'll be hell to pay . . . hungama up the gazoo . . . but . . . if you call tomorrow and demur from proceeding any further . . . well . . . there will be disappoinment . . .sure . . . but the dust will setlle a LOT faster . . . Nakul, would you do at least this much for me?" If he doesn't start with this, you must . . . OK . . . take it from step 1 . . .
Next day, Nakul calls and tells Mr. Sethi that he's having to reconsider this whole thing . . . it's NOT Simi . . . it's HIM . . . he needs some time to clear his head about his own objectives . . . so . . .
See?! 😊
Neil(!) Armstrong!
You got it! Awesome!
but you can't have him change his (perceived!) age
No . . . what y'all are miffed about is his (putative) behavior change because of the age fiasco . . . what if they had him behave the same (understandable) way i.e. angry, frustrated as a 24-25 yr fella? You'd still consider him a loser?!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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If it's anything like me i.e. being on the couch as a potato, you're A-OK in my books, a gal after my own heart, a kindred spirit!

That's exactly it!! Glad to have made your acquaintance! 😊

say, belledejour (why not belle d'anee . . . year round?) . . .

an oft-repeated phrase this side of the pond, with an extensive history... perhaps more continental than English... but let's not delve too deeply here... i offer the frivolous explanation that it's the name of my favorite lipstick, the first thing that came to mind while signing up... lest the forum police is on my case for digressing from the purpose at hand and chatting!

OK . . . how should things play out then . . .

Not my job is it?! 😊 ... But surely it can be done! (lemme help you decipher this: I cant be botherd!)

Neil(!) Armstrong! You got it! Awesome!

Yes!! and enjoyed it too!!! 😊 Not so arm strong perhaps... i thought he'd topple when she plowed into him running away from RB... n scrawny legs to add.. there'll be no carrying over the threshold here, methinks 😆

what if they had him behave the same (understandable) way i.e. angry, frustrated as a 24-25 yr fella? You'd still consider him a loser?!

That's my predicament (intense! 😊) i can't understand! ... he is not the same person (I've bored myself with the number of times I've repeated this and I'm rather good at keeping myself amused!)... too at odds with the character I've gotten to know... (isn't everything about personal perception?) ...

anyway, i find it distasteful that true love has made a wimp out of him!
Edited by belledejour - 15 years ago

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