Putting law above love

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Do you think marriages except business contracts,cos we commit to each other before a magistrate-- you are insulting love....We want to be married and we will remain married. It is our promise, given to the law... we will not separate and we will not deceive each other. Do you think this is not a great insult of love? Are not you putting law above love? Love need any law to prove it!?😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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marriage was supposed to B a life long contract. Love came in later. šŸ˜‰
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazy_sunny

marriage was supposed to B a life long contract. Love came in later. šŸ˜‰

So you mean sign contract and start love....😃ya now a days we can see only Conditional love😊
*Woh Ajnabee* thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
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It all depends on how you view the bond of marriage. Some people think it is simply signing a piece of paper and legally obtaining a title of husband and wife to display to society. And that's perfectly fine as well, as long as they have made promises to each other and feel completed by each other. As long as there is love, a marriage license doesn't mean much.

However, to idiots like me, marriage itself is a promise of eternal love, a celebration of two people coming together. But marriage is not represented by the ink on the legal paper, but rather by the emotions that it brings about. And therefore, the legal aspect is just a social obligation and nothing more.

Having said that, I am a sucker for weddings, and I enjoy watching people celebrate having found each other in life. Watching two people come together and begin their life journey is one of the most beautiful things in life, in my opinion. To me, marriage is standing before God, exchanging vows, declaring your love, and accepting each other.

Sure, marriage is now associated with legal and societal expectations as well, but that is only because of the system that we have created for ourselves. God didn't invent marriage licenses, we did. But below it all, marriage is still a promise of love, and nothing more. So look beyond the license and to the person that you're willing to spend the rest of your life with.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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No one is giving promise to the law. Marriage laws were not created to sanctify or glorify marriage in any way, or replace love. Marriage laws were created to protect the rights and interests of spouses and children. Its just a necessary tool in place to preserve some form of rules and order in the process of marriage.

A legal system is there to preserve order in organized society. Just because a legal system exists it does not replace basic human morality and emotion. You can work based only on the law, or on your feelings too. Business can be done as purely contracts between two people, or you can include a sense of honor and cooperation without it too.

Besides legal marriage documents do not include any promises of love. That has always been reserved to the wedding vows, culture, rituals and traditions of the two people getting married. It about mutual love and commitment.

That being said I feel most societies tend to put law above love, because love seems to be put on the backburner before these laws.


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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*


However, to idiots like me, marriage itself is a promise of eternal love, a celebration of two people coming together. But marriage is not represented by the ink on the legal paper, but rather by the emotions that it brings about. And therefore, the legal aspect is just a social obligation and nothing more.



You know every debate on marriage or no marriage - this is the definition I have been citing - a commitment between two people. But even if people have that level of trust and commitment, but do not sign that piece of paper - you call them live-in.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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The word love has different meanings for ppl. Love in the pure sense or unconditional love is very rare. Most of the love we is conditional & transitory. Anyway no one loves intentionally - love happens whereas marriage is intentional wether ur own or parents or sum1 else.. Marriage is a commitment IMO. One cant B blamed for falling in or out of luv as its beyond ones vol control but then as human beings we have a conscience that guides our action. I think one shud go by what ones conscience dictates under those circumstances.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Two persons living together in love should make it a point that their relationship is continuously growing, bringing more flowers every season, creating more joys. Just sitting together silently is enough....I think some intelligent world, people will love, but will not make any contracts. It is not a business! 😊They will understand each other, and they will understand the changing flux of life. They will be true to each other. The moment the man feels that now his beloved holds no joy for him, he will say that the time has come to part. There is no need for marriage, there is no need for divorce. Then friendship will be possible. You ask me why friendship is not possible between men and women.... Friendship is not possible between the jailer and the imprisoned.😊but what to do we still planing go same route and buss....even me too..šŸ˜‰

I feel bad that the court and the law and the state interfere in your private life -- you have to ask their permission. Who are they? It is a question between two individuals, their private affair😊man has created societies, cultures, civilizations, rules, regulations, and made the whole humanity unnatural.šŸ˜•
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Posted: 16 years ago
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The law is not forcing anyone to marry. People who feel their relationship is strong without a legal marriage are free to do so.

Signing a legal document for marriage is a way to secure your loved ones in case of life's uncertainties. A legal document gives the spouse and children rights to property and wealth in case of death. It allows spouses hospital visits and say in medical situations. There have been situations where family members have prohibited their child's live in relationship or partner from visiting them in hospitals or making medical decisions - and they have a legal right to do so. With a legal marriage family members have no right to bar a spouse from visiting. With a marriage you also ensure that someone you trust has parental rights of your biological/foster or adopted children. In case of an emergency extended family or social services cannot take the child away from the spouse. There are this and many other consumer, government, income and employment benefits of a legal marriage.

A legal marriage by no means replaces genuine love and trust in marriage. In fact without that genuine love and trust there is no marriage, just a legal contract.

If people feel that only love is enough and they do not need to secure any legal rights or benefits available, then they are free to not sign the legal document. If love alone could give relationships the security and protection they deserve in society, people would not give a rats ass for the right to marry.

I do not see why the need for some sort of structure in the legal aspect has to replace love or be above it. Its just something that adds to the love that exists. Marriage is meaningless without love.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

The law is not forcing anyone to marry. People who feel their relationship is strong without a legal marriage are free to do so. --😳

Signing a legal document for marriage is a way to secure your loved ones in case of life's uncertainties. A legal document gives the spouse and children rights to property and wealth in case of death. It allows spouses hospital visits and say in medical situations. There have been situations where family members have prohibited their child's live in relationship or partner from visiting them in hospitals or making medical decisions - and they have a legal right to do so. With a legal marriage family members have no right to bar a spouse from visiting. With a marriage you also ensure that someone you trust has parental rights of your biological/foster or adopted children. In case of an emergency extended family or social services cannot take the child away from the spouse. There are this and many other consumer, government, income and employment benefits of a legal marriage.


A legal marriage by no means replaces genuine love and trust in marriage. In fact without that genuine love and trust there is no marriage, just a legal contract.

If people feel that only love is enough and they do not need to secure any legal rights or benefits available, then they are free to not sign the legal document. If love alone could give relationships the security and protection they deserve in society, people would not give a rats ass for the right to marry.

Cos love is Insecure................And nobody knows where love will lead. It is just like a cloud -- moving with no destination. Love is a hidden cloud, whereabouts unknown. Nobody knows where it is at any moment of time. Unpredictable -- no astrologer can predict anything about love. About marriage? -- astrologers are very, very helpful....they can predict.

Man has to create marriage because man is afraid of the unknown. On all levels of life and existence, man has created substitutes----- for love there is marriage.....for real religion there are sects -- they are like marriages. Hinduism, Mohammedanism, Christianity, Jainism -- they are not real religion. Real religion has no name........ it is like love😊

I do not see why the need for some sort of structure in the legal aspect has to replace love or be above it. Its just something that adds to the love that exists. Marriage is meaningless without love. --😳



Marriage is more permanent than love. Love may be eternal, but it is not permanent.....I beleive When love becomes marriage it means two individuals decide to live together -- but in absolute freedom, nonpossessive of each other. Love is nonpossessive; it gives freedom....If you
you her freedom, and I trust her intelligence, and I trust her loving capacity. If she falls in love with somebody else, I trust that too. She is intelligent, she can choose. She is free, she can love. I trust her understanding...I think you can grow more n more...
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